Found this on the internet!

[Guest guest]

*crosssing my increasingly healthier heart thanks to the DS* I promise Allysa!

Lisbeth

Alyssa wrote:

Re: Re: Found this on the internet!

>

>

> You are going to get there Alyssa, faith girlfriend just have some faith!

I'm trying, I'm trying! Just remind me that it *will* happen, okay?

alyssa

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[Guest guest]

*crosssing my increasingly healthier heart thanks to the DS* I promise Allysa!

Lisbeth

Alyssa wrote:

Re: Re: Found this on the internet!

>

>

> You are going to get there Alyssa, faith girlfriend just have some faith!

I'm trying, I'm trying! Just remind me that it *will* happen, okay?

alyssa

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[Guest guest]

Re: Re: Found this on the internet!

> Alyssa.....<putting my arms around your shoulders>

> Hun, you WILL get there! I never thought it would happen for me

Thanks, Judie. I, too, worry that Cigna will decide to deny and won't ch

ange their minds for some reason. At least I have the reassurance of all

you fabulous people!!

alyssa

[Guest guest]

Re: Re: Found this on the internet!

> Alyssa.....<putting my arms around your shoulders>

> Hun, you WILL get there! I never thought it would happen for me

Thanks, Judie. I, too, worry that Cigna will decide to deny and won't ch

ange their minds for some reason. At least I have the reassurance of all

you fabulous people!!

alyssa

[Guest guest]

For some reason this reminds me of when I was a

teenager or perhaps early 20s. I used to watch The

Wild Wild West with Conrad... *drool*

I used to fantasize that I was in the WWWest and was

in his train, me at about 200 pounds and he was being

nice to me but not interested in me, of course,

because I was so fat. So I stood up, went into the

next boxcar and took off my fat suit... went back to

see him and Artie (somehow wearing another dress that

actually fit now)... and they would both fight over

me.

Now that I look back, I realize how sad that was...

The stuff put into our heads that we're not worthy or

acceptable if fat... what a shame...

dee

--- L J wrote:

>

> I gotta tell you I saw the trailer for Shallow Hal

> and let me tell you it was enough to tell me that I

> didnt want to see the movie. The most offensive part

> were the people in the movie theater. People going

> " yuck " " damn how disgusting " and those were the

> nicest thing that were said. I sincerely believe

> that we all lose a part of our humanity when

> humilation is humerous. Yeah I am corny sorry!

> Lisbeth

>

> mariak415@... wrote: FYI, the movie summary

> at Internet Movie Database reads:

>

> " When his father was on his deathbed, young Hal

> (Black) was

> told to only date the youngest, prettiest women. And

> so he does,

> and as he reaches middle-age, and he's only

> appreciated

> women for their surface. What a surprise then when

> he meets a

> woman (Paltrow) who's quite obese, but he falls in

> love with her

> inner beauty. "

>

> http://www.imdb.com

>

> It is also a Farrelly Bros. (of Me, Myself & Irene,

> Something About

> , and Dumb & Dumber fame) movie, so we'll see.

>

> -

>

>

> > Gwyneth Learned A Lot From Fat Suit

>

>

>

>

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>

[Guest guest]

For some reason this reminds me of when I was a

teenager or perhaps early 20s. I used to watch The

Wild Wild West with Conrad... *drool*

I used to fantasize that I was in the WWWest and was

in his train, me at about 200 pounds and he was being

nice to me but not interested in me, of course,

because I was so fat. So I stood up, went into the

next boxcar and took off my fat suit... went back to

see him and Artie (somehow wearing another dress that

actually fit now)... and they would both fight over

me.

Now that I look back, I realize how sad that was...

The stuff put into our heads that we're not worthy or

acceptable if fat... what a shame...

dee

--- L J wrote:

>

> I gotta tell you I saw the trailer for Shallow Hal

> and let me tell you it was enough to tell me that I

> didnt want to see the movie. The most offensive part

> were the people in the movie theater. People going

> " yuck " " damn how disgusting " and those were the

> nicest thing that were said. I sincerely believe

> that we all lose a part of our humanity when

> humilation is humerous. Yeah I am corny sorry!

> Lisbeth

>

> mariak415@... wrote: FYI, the movie summary

> at Internet Movie Database reads:

>

> " When his father was on his deathbed, young Hal

> (Black) was

> told to only date the youngest, prettiest women. And

> so he does,

> and as he reaches middle-age, and he's only

> appreciated

> women for their surface. What a surprise then when

> he meets a

> woman (Paltrow) who's quite obese, but he falls in

> love with her

> inner beauty. "

>

> http://www.imdb.com

>

> It is also a Farrelly Bros. (of Me, Myself & Irene,

> Something About

> , and Dumb & Dumber fame) movie, so we'll see.

>

> -

>

>

> > Gwyneth Learned A Lot From Fat Suit

>

>

>

>

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>

[Guest guest]

Alyssa,

even if they deny you there are ways to fight them, I did.....although I

had a different insurance company it was secondary to medicare. they flat

out said no.....we argued and fought for 4 months and then finally I said I

wanted it to go the medicare review board (becuz I knew medicare pays for it

although Regence said they didnt!) They actually lied thru their teeth all

the way.....I wonder if medicare knows they lied? (and cigna is reputed to

be much better than Regence which is thru BC/BS)

The waiting was torture for me but thru it all, I learned alot more from

just being here, soaking up all the information, being able to be supportive

to newbies coming behind me and generally learning to be patient which was

not one of my virtues. When I quit thinking about myself and focused on

others, I got approval!

By the way, did you know its cigna that makes tummy tucks and plastic

surgery easier to get afterwards? <grin>

Anyway, you WILL get there and we will be with you all the way!

Hugs, Judie

[Guest guest]

Alyssa,

even if they deny you there are ways to fight them, I did.....although I

had a different insurance company it was secondary to medicare. they flat

out said no.....we argued and fought for 4 months and then finally I said I

wanted it to go the medicare review board (becuz I knew medicare pays for it

although Regence said they didnt!) They actually lied thru their teeth all

the way.....I wonder if medicare knows they lied? (and cigna is reputed to

be much better than Regence which is thru BC/BS)

The waiting was torture for me but thru it all, I learned alot more from

just being here, soaking up all the information, being able to be supportive

to newbies coming behind me and generally learning to be patient which was

not one of my virtues. When I quit thinking about myself and focused on

others, I got approval!

By the way, did you know its cigna that makes tummy tucks and plastic

surgery easier to get afterwards? <grin>

Anyway, you WILL get there and we will be with you all the way!

Hugs, Judie

[Guest guest]

Re: Re: Found this on the internet!

> By the way, did you know its cigna that makes tummy tucks and plastic

> surgery easier to get afterwards? <grin>

Woohoo!! lol...never figured I'd need plastic surgery...then again, I never

thought I could lose that much weight. You guys have convinced me that I

don't have to spend the rest of my life being fat!!

alyssa

[Guest guest]

Re: Re: Found this on the internet!

> By the way, did you know its cigna that makes tummy tucks and plastic

> surgery easier to get afterwards? <grin>

Woohoo!! lol...never figured I'd need plastic surgery...then again, I never

thought I could lose that much weight. You guys have convinced me that I

don't have to spend the rest of my life being fat!!

alyssa

[Guest guest]

At 18:02 -0700 8/21/01, Judie Hensel wrote:

> I

>bought bib overalls and bib shorts.

oh -- this is one of my goals/dreams! I love this look, and I haven't

been comfortable wearing them in so long I don't even own them

anymore.

<sigh>

--stella

[Guest guest]

At 18:02 -0700 8/21/01, Judie Hensel wrote:

> I

>bought bib overalls and bib shorts.

oh -- this is one of my goals/dreams! I love this look, and I haven't

been comfortable wearing them in so long I don't even own them

anymore.

<sigh>

--stella

[Guest guest]

At 01:190 +0000 8/22/01, mariak415@... wrote:

>Also, why did they choose Paltrow and put her in a fat suit? Jack

>Black (male lead) ain't no skinny-minnie either...so go figure.

Because of the way the story unfolds, they needed a slender person

because that is how Hal sees her -- he doesn't see her as obese like

everyone else does. So the actress playing the character wears the

fat suit for our (the viewers) benefit, but doesn't wear it when his

attention is focused on her. Her 'inner beauty' -- get it?

--stella

[Guest guest]

At 01:190 +0000 8/22/01, mariak415@... wrote:

>Also, why did they choose Paltrow and put her in a fat suit? Jack

>Black (male lead) ain't no skinny-minnie either...so go figure.

Because of the way the story unfolds, they needed a slender person

because that is how Hal sees her -- he doesn't see her as obese like

everyone else does. So the actress playing the character wears the

fat suit for our (the viewers) benefit, but doesn't wear it when his

attention is focused on her. Her 'inner beauty' -- get it?

--stella

[Guest guest]

Oh Alyssa, hang in there! In the three months before my DS I had

outgrown my size 28 jeans. I couldnt zip them at all, only could

button the button at the top of the zipper,so the zipper gaped open.

I wore shirts that covered it, but only had two of those that even

fit me anymore. I was so discouraged!

Your time will be here before you know it. Its a drag waiting, and

feeling so miserable, but it also motivates us, and keeps us focused

during the wait time. Bless you, Meli

-- In duodenalswitch@y..., " Alyssa " <alyssaj@m...> wrote:

>

> Re: Re: Found this on the internet!

>

>

> > shorts now as long as they have elastic waist!! Its absolutly

liberating

> to

> > walk -past the fat ladies clothes and not have to look back!!!

You will

> get

> > there sooner than you think!

>

> Judie, you're making me cry. It seems like it's going to be

forever before

> I'm in your shoes! So many more hurdles to jump through, etc... I

can't

> even bear to buy clothing anymore.

>

> alyssa

[Guest guest]

Oh Alyssa, hang in there! In the three months before my DS I had

outgrown my size 28 jeans. I couldnt zip them at all, only could

button the button at the top of the zipper,so the zipper gaped open.

I wore shirts that covered it, but only had two of those that even

fit me anymore. I was so discouraged!

Your time will be here before you know it. Its a drag waiting, and

feeling so miserable, but it also motivates us, and keeps us focused

during the wait time. Bless you, Meli

-- In duodenalswitch@y..., " Alyssa " <alyssaj@m...> wrote:

>

> Re: Re: Found this on the internet!

>

>

> > shorts now as long as they have elastic waist!! Its absolutly

liberating

> to

> > walk -past the fat ladies clothes and not have to look back!!!

You will

> get

> > there sooner than you think!

>

> Judie, you're making me cry. It seems like it's going to be

forever before

> I'm in your shoes! So many more hurdles to jump through, etc... I

can't

> even bear to buy clothing anymore.

>

> alyssa

[Guest guest]

Youll get there Stella.....tell you what.....if I outgrow mine (they are now

large) then Ill save them for you , ok? (Im serious!)

They look cute on me......a 57 yr old grandma LOL

Hugs, Judie

Re: Re: Found this on the internet!

> At 18:02 -0700 8/21/01, Judie Hensel wrote:

> > I

> >bought bib overalls and bib shorts.

>

> oh -- this is one of my goals/dreams! I love this look, and I haven't

> been comfortable wearing them in so long I don't even own them

> anymore.

>

> <sigh>

>

> --stella

>

>

> ----------------------------------------------------------------------

>

[Guest guest]

Youll get there Stella.....tell you what.....if I outgrow mine (they are now

large) then Ill save them for you , ok? (Im serious!)

They look cute on me......a 57 yr old grandma LOL

Hugs, Judie

Re: Re: Found this on the internet!

> At 18:02 -0700 8/21/01, Judie Hensel wrote:

> > I

> >bought bib overalls and bib shorts.

>

> oh -- this is one of my goals/dreams! I love this look, and I haven't

> been comfortable wearing them in so long I don't even own them

> anymore.

>

> <sigh>

>

> --stella

>

>

> ----------------------------------------------------------------------

>

[Guest guest]

Oh, please don't knock pantyhose! I go back thousands of years to the era of

GIRDLES having to hold my stockings up! Even at my heaviest I refuse to wear

a girdle! Compressed in the middle, excess rolls out the top & bottom, I'd

look ( & feel) like a dumbbell! (Guess I could don a cape and enlist as a

sidekick to SuperBatwingGirl!)

Marcia

> Re: Found this on the internet!

>

>

> I like LB for the simple things: jeans, cotton shirts, underwear

> ($$$$, though). I can just go in and buy and not have to hassle

> with the dressing room. Their stuff has gotten better over the

> years, at least in the store. The catalog is still scary sometimes.

> I heard that they were recently acquired by another " plus size "

> clothing chain...I wonder what'll happen now? Hopefully, I won't

> have to worry about it in a year...

>

> BTW, I'm sure Mr. Polyester was a Mr....and he's probably the

> same evil bastard who is responsible for pantyhose. Kick on!

>

>

> >

> > Well as someone who was young and bigger I was glad for

> Lane because all the catalogs only had polyster clothes

> that were a little to mature for me. I will agree on one thing after

> you are done kicking him I would also like to kick Mr. Polyster!

> > Lisbeth

> >

>

>

>

> ----------------------------------------------------------------------

>

[Guest guest]

Oh, please don't knock pantyhose! I go back thousands of years to the era of

GIRDLES having to hold my stockings up! Even at my heaviest I refuse to wear

a girdle! Compressed in the middle, excess rolls out the top & bottom, I'd

look ( & feel) like a dumbbell! (Guess I could don a cape and enlist as a

sidekick to SuperBatwingGirl!)

Marcia

> Re: Found this on the internet!

>

>

> I like LB for the simple things: jeans, cotton shirts, underwear

> ($$$$, though). I can just go in and buy and not have to hassle

> with the dressing room. Their stuff has gotten better over the

> years, at least in the store. The catalog is still scary sometimes.

> I heard that they were recently acquired by another " plus size "

> clothing chain...I wonder what'll happen now? Hopefully, I won't

> have to worry about it in a year...

>

> BTW, I'm sure Mr. Polyester was a Mr....and he's probably the

> same evil bastard who is responsible for pantyhose. Kick on!

>

>

> >

> > Well as someone who was young and bigger I was glad for

> Lane because all the catalogs only had polyster clothes

> that were a little to mature for me. I will agree on one thing after

> you are done kicking him I would also like to kick Mr. Polyster!

> > Lisbeth

> >

>

>

>

> ----------------------------------------------------------------------

>

[Guest guest]

BTW, I'm sure Mr. Polyester was a Mr....and he's probably the

same evil bastard who is responsible for pantyhose. Kick on!

I don't know how old you are, but I sure remember the time before pantyhose. I

don't want to go back there anymore. I remember the garter belts that would

slide down because the nylon stockings were a bit too short.. Or trying to

attach the hook in the back of my leg that just didn't want to cooperate. Just

trying to find stockings that would fit a large woman that weren't thick support

was fun.

Rita Black

Open DS, Dr. Macura

4/23/01 400lbs, BMI 63

5/1/01 391lbs, BMI 61

5/22/01 368lbs, BMI 58

6/21/01 350lbs, BMI 55

7/31/01 328lbs, BMI 51

5/22/01 368lbs, BMI 58

6/21/01 360lbs, BMI 55

7/31/01 328lbs, BMI 51

[Guest guest]

BTW, I'm sure Mr. Polyester was a Mr....and he's probably the

same evil bastard who is responsible for pantyhose. Kick on!

I don't know how old you are, but I sure remember the time before pantyhose. I

don't want to go back there anymore. I remember the garter belts that would

slide down because the nylon stockings were a bit too short.. Or trying to

attach the hook in the back of my leg that just didn't want to cooperate. Just

trying to find stockings that would fit a large woman that weren't thick support

was fun.

Rita Black

Open DS, Dr. Macura

4/23/01 400lbs, BMI 63

5/1/01 391lbs, BMI 61

5/22/01 368lbs, BMI 58

6/21/01 350lbs, BMI 55

7/31/01 328lbs, BMI 51

5/22/01 368lbs, BMI 58

6/21/01 360lbs, BMI 55

7/31/01 328lbs, BMI 51

[Guest guest]

At 22:19 -0700 8/21/01, Judie Hensel sat down at the keyboad and wrote:

>Youll get there Stella.....tell you what.....if I outgrow mine (they are now

>large) then Ill save them for you , ok? (Im serious!)

>They look cute on me......a 57 yr old grandma LOL

you are such a sweetie -- and this 46 year old granny thanks you! How

many do you have? I have four: Dillon-4; andria-3; -2; and

Preston, 13 weeks.

--stella

[Guest guest]

At 22:19 -0700 8/21/01, Judie Hensel sat down at the keyboad and wrote:

>Youll get there Stella.....tell you what.....if I outgrow mine (they are now

>large) then Ill save them for you , ok? (Im serious!)

>They look cute on me......a 57 yr old grandma LOL

you are such a sweetie -- and this 46 year old granny thanks you! How

many do you have? I have four: Dillon-4; andria-3; -2; and

Preston, 13 weeks.

--stella

[Guest guest]

At 02:560 -0400 8/22/01, Marty Kanter sat down at the keyboad and wrote:

>I go back thousands of years to the era of

>GIRDLES having to hold my stockings up!

I remember my first garterbelt at the age of 13; it felt so weird to

have those things pressed into the backs of my thighs when I sat down

in church! I was in the 7th grade when my mother bought me a pair of

panty hose, and I thought I'd never get them on right. The

relationship between me and ph has gone downhill since then...

I personally don't care for stockings but when they are necessary,

thigh-highs (which right now resemble tall knee highs on me) or knee

highs are the extent to which I am willing to torture myself.

--stella