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At 02:560 -0400 8/22/01, Marty Kanter sat down at the keyboad and wrote:

>I go back thousands of years to the era of

>GIRDLES having to hold my stockings up!

I remember my first garterbelt at the age of 13; it felt so weird to

have those things pressed into the backs of my thighs when I sat down

in church! I was in the 7th grade when my mother bought me a pair of

panty hose, and I thought I'd never get them on right. The

relationship between me and ph has gone downhill since then...

I personally don't care for stockings but when they are necessary,

thigh-highs (which right now resemble tall knee highs on me) or knee

highs are the extent to which I am willing to torture myself.

--stella

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In a message dated 8/21/2001 5:20:50 PM Pacific Daylight Time,

dreamweavergirlus@... writes:

<< Lane and do they think that every plus sized person is 17

and unemployed. Most of their clothing couldn't be worn in a

proffesional environment. And the rainbow colors are scary!! Just

my 2 cents. >>

I would have to agree with you there. Although some of their clothes are

okay, how many MO people do you know who are going to walk around in backless

tops with built in flimsy little bra's... Ooops. Maybe I shouldn't ask, I

have seen MO people wearing these things, but they really need to know their

limits whether they are 17 or 71! :-)

Kim B.

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In a message dated 8/21/2001 5:20:50 PM Pacific Daylight Time,

dreamweavergirlus@... writes:

<< Lane and do they think that every plus sized person is 17

and unemployed. Most of their clothing couldn't be worn in a

proffesional environment. And the rainbow colors are scary!! Just

my 2 cents. >>

I would have to agree with you there. Although some of their clothes are

okay, how many MO people do you know who are going to walk around in backless

tops with built in flimsy little bra's... Ooops. Maybe I shouldn't ask, I

have seen MO people wearing these things, but they really need to know their

limits whether they are 17 or 71! :-)

Kim B.

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> In addition,

> Intimate Brands sells candles through White Barn Candle Co. stores and

> is testing 's Secret beauty stores (many within 's

> Secret stores). CEO Wexner owns 18% of retailer The Limited,

> which in turn owns 84% of Intimate Brands.

LOL , you do your research VERY well! Impressive!

Michele B, aka Michele Brigante-Wexner

Cols, Ohio

Failed VBG 1986

Revision - Open BPD/DS 7/14/00

Wt 320/172 BMI 50.2/26.9 -148 pounds in 13 months

Dr. P. Maguire, Kettering OH

Self-pay

http://hometown.aol.com/chezmich/index.html

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> In addition,

> Intimate Brands sells candles through White Barn Candle Co. stores and

> is testing 's Secret beauty stores (many within 's

> Secret stores). CEO Wexner owns 18% of retailer The Limited,

> which in turn owns 84% of Intimate Brands.

LOL , you do your research VERY well! Impressive!

Michele B, aka Michele Brigante-Wexner

Cols, Ohio

Failed VBG 1986

Revision - Open BPD/DS 7/14/00

Wt 320/172 BMI 50.2/26.9 -148 pounds in 13 months

Dr. P. Maguire, Kettering OH

Self-pay

http://hometown.aol.com/chezmich/index.html

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Stella.....be sure and let me know when you get down to size large and I

will mail them to you!

I have 10 grand kids....as follows!

- 15

Jordan - 14

Adam - 11

Hayden - 6

- 4

Giselle -10

Gianni -2

Baliarosa (we call her for short and her name means beautiful rose in

spanish)--6 months

- 2

Amelieo - 11

As you can see, we only have 2 grand daughters! (I was afraid we wouldnt

get any!)

Hugs, Judie

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Stella.....be sure and let me know when you get down to size large and I

will mail them to you!

I have 10 grand kids....as follows!

- 15

Jordan - 14

Adam - 11

Hayden - 6

- 4

Giselle -10

Gianni -2

Baliarosa (we call her for short and her name means beautiful rose in

spanish)--6 months

- 2

Amelieo - 11

As you can see, we only have 2 grand daughters! (I was afraid we wouldnt

get any!)

Hugs, Judie

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Try Lane for nylons...they're pretty good and stretchy. They don't

last long, though.

alyssa

Re: Found this on the internet!

short.. Or trying to attach the hook in the back of my leg that just didn't

want to cooperate. Just trying to find stockings that would fit a large

woman that weren't thick support was fun.

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Try Lane for nylons...they're pretty good and stretchy. They don't

last long, though.

alyssa

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short.. Or trying to attach the hook in the back of my leg that just didn't

want to cooperate. Just trying to find stockings that would fit a large

woman that weren't thick support was fun.

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Lane (and oh how I look forward to being a former customer is

owned by Brylane, Inc.

Brylane is one of the largest US catalog retailers selling apparel to

people who need a plus. The company sells plus-size women's clothes

through its Lane , London, and Roaman's catalogs and

men's apparel under the KingSize name. Brylane also sells women's

apparel through the Lerner, Real Comfort and Chadwick's of Boston

catalogs, and it has a catalog of home items, Brylane Home. Brylane

markets some catalogs under an agreement with Sears. It focuses on

clothing with limited fashion risk and broad selections of sizes,

styles, and colors. France's Pinault-Printemps-Redoute (PPR) bought

Brylane in 1998. PPR has collaborated with Brylane to offer a US

version of its top French catalog, La Redoute.

's Secret is owned by Intimate Brands.

As a leading retailer of women's intimate apparel and personal care

products, Intimate Brands should feel quite uplifted. The company has

nearly 2,400 stores under the names 's Secret (lingerie,

cosmetics, and fragrances) and Bath & Body Works (personal care

products). 's Secret also sells apparel online and mails out

more than 365 million copies a year of its famous namesake catalog,

which serves as a socially acceptable " girlie mag. " In addition,

Intimate Brands sells candles through White Barn Candle Co. stores and

is testing 's Secret beauty stores (many within 's

Secret stores). CEO Wexner owns 18% of retailer The Limited,

which in turn owns 84% of Intimate Brands.

FYI, :D

L.

6/26

Dr. Keshishian

-54 pounds

> If so, then the Limited owns them both.

>

> alyssa

>

> > Im not positive but I heard that Lane is also owned by s

> > Secret......

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Lane (and oh how I look forward to being a former customer is

owned by Brylane, Inc.

Brylane is one of the largest US catalog retailers selling apparel to

people who need a plus. The company sells plus-size women's clothes

through its Lane , London, and Roaman's catalogs and

men's apparel under the KingSize name. Brylane also sells women's

apparel through the Lerner, Real Comfort and Chadwick's of Boston

catalogs, and it has a catalog of home items, Brylane Home. Brylane

markets some catalogs under an agreement with Sears. It focuses on

clothing with limited fashion risk and broad selections of sizes,

styles, and colors. France's Pinault-Printemps-Redoute (PPR) bought

Brylane in 1998. PPR has collaborated with Brylane to offer a US

version of its top French catalog, La Redoute.

's Secret is owned by Intimate Brands.

As a leading retailer of women's intimate apparel and personal care

products, Intimate Brands should feel quite uplifted. The company has

nearly 2,400 stores under the names 's Secret (lingerie,

cosmetics, and fragrances) and Bath & Body Works (personal care

products). 's Secret also sells apparel online and mails out

more than 365 million copies a year of its famous namesake catalog,

which serves as a socially acceptable " girlie mag. " In addition,

Intimate Brands sells candles through White Barn Candle Co. stores and

is testing 's Secret beauty stores (many within 's

Secret stores). CEO Wexner owns 18% of retailer The Limited,

which in turn owns 84% of Intimate Brands.

FYI, :D

L.

6/26

Dr. Keshishian

-54 pounds

> If so, then the Limited owns them both.

>

> alyssa

>

> > Im not positive but I heard that Lane is also owned by s

> > Secret......

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That, and they think that all fat people are 5'8 " or taller!! Most

of their skirts and dresses are floor-length on me!

I am 5'8 " and taller, and they are all floor length on me. They also

assume that every fat person is long waisted, so the crotch hangs

down to my knees. I end up wearing petites pants. The crotch hits

where it should (if I pull the waistband over my boobs!) and all the

legs are cropped!

Ellen

DS 2/14/01 310

dr. Anthone

8/22/01 230

- 80 lbs.

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That, and they think that all fat people are 5'8 " or taller!! Most

of their skirts and dresses are floor-length on me!

I am 5'8 " and taller, and they are all floor length on me. They also

assume that every fat person is long waisted, so the crotch hangs

down to my knees. I end up wearing petites pants. The crotch hits

where it should (if I pull the waistband over my boobs!) and all the

legs are cropped!

Ellen

DS 2/14/01 310

dr. Anthone

8/22/01 230

- 80 lbs.

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What I hate is that they use size 4 models. You know that they've had

to drastically pin and tuck the material to get it to fit them

properly. You have to really, really know how something would look on

you. Then there's the problem with sleeves either way too long or way

too short. Sometimes I wonder why they want really short sleeves for

people who usually have very big upper arms. Either they are too

tight or you bulge out all around them.

P

> That, and they think that all fat people are 5'8 " or taller!!

Most

> of their skirts and dresses are floor-length on me!

>

> I am 5'8 " and taller, and they are all floor length on me. They

also

> assume that every fat person is long waisted, so the crotch hangs

> down to my knees. I end up wearing petites pants. The crotch hits

> where it should (if I pull the waistband over my boobs!) and all

the

> legs are cropped!

> Ellen

> DS 2/14/01 310

> dr. Anthone

> 8/22/01 230

> - 80 lbs.

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What I hate is that they use size 4 models. You know that they've had

to drastically pin and tuck the material to get it to fit them

properly. You have to really, really know how something would look on

you. Then there's the problem with sleeves either way too long or way

too short. Sometimes I wonder why they want really short sleeves for

people who usually have very big upper arms. Either they are too

tight or you bulge out all around them.

P

> That, and they think that all fat people are 5'8 " or taller!!

Most

> of their skirts and dresses are floor-length on me!

>

> I am 5'8 " and taller, and they are all floor length on me. They

also

> assume that every fat person is long waisted, so the crotch hangs

> down to my knees. I end up wearing petites pants. The crotch hits

> where it should (if I pull the waistband over my boobs!) and all

the

> legs are cropped!

> Ellen

> DS 2/14/01 310

> dr. Anthone

> 8/22/01 230

> - 80 lbs.

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Then there's the problem with sleeves either way too long or way

too short. >>>>>>>>>>

Oh yeah! I can identify with that one alright! Half the time sleeves are

way too long for me.....I have short arms! If they dont have elastic in the

cuffs or buttons I dont buy them!!

Judie

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Now you are what I call a consumate shopper and informed consumer!!!!! :)

I just recieved a catalog from Le Redoute. I kinda like the stuff in there.

Lisbeth

inSLO@... wrote: Lane (and oh how I look forward to being a

former customer is

owned by Brylane, Inc.

Brylane is one of the largest US catalog retailers selling apparel to

people who need a plus. The company sells plus-size women's clothes

through its Lane , London, and Roaman's catalogs and

men's apparel under the KingSize name. Brylane also sells women's

apparel through the Lerner, Real Comfort and Chadwick's of Boston

catalogs, and it has a catalog of home items, Brylane Home. Brylane

markets some catalogs under an agreement with Sears. It focuses on

clothing with limited fashion risk and broad selections of sizes,

styles, and colors. France's Pinault-Printemps-Redoute (PPR) bought

Brylane in 1998. PPR has collaborated with Brylane to offer a US

version of its top French catalog, La Redoute.

's Secret is owned by Intimate Brands.

As a leading retailer of women's intimate apparel and personal care

products, Intimate Brands should feel quite uplifted. The company has

nearly 2,400 stores under the names 's Secret (lingerie,

cosmetics, and fragrances) and Bath & Body Works (personal care

products). 's Secret also sells apparel online and mails out

more than 365 million copies a year of its famous namesake catalog,

which serves as a socially acceptable " girlie mag. " In addition,

Intimate Brands sells candles through White Barn Candle Co. stores and

is testing 's Secret beauty stores (many within 's

Secret stores). CEO Wexner owns 18% of retailer The Limited,

which in turn owns 84% of Intimate Brands.

FYI, :D

L.

6/26

Dr. Keshishian

-54 pounds

> If so, then the Limited owns them both.

>

> alyssa

>

> > Im not positive but I heard that Lane is also owned by s

> > Secret......

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Then there's the problem with sleeves either way too long or way

too short. >>>>>>>>>>

Oh yeah! I can identify with that one alright! Half the time sleeves are

way too long for me.....I have short arms! If they dont have elastic in the

cuffs or buttons I dont buy them!!

Judie

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Now you are what I call a consumate shopper and informed consumer!!!!! :)

I just recieved a catalog from Le Redoute. I kinda like the stuff in there.

Lisbeth

inSLO@... wrote: Lane (and oh how I look forward to being a

former customer is

owned by Brylane, Inc.

Brylane is one of the largest US catalog retailers selling apparel to

people who need a plus. The company sells plus-size women's clothes

through its Lane , London, and Roaman's catalogs and

men's apparel under the KingSize name. Brylane also sells women's

apparel through the Lerner, Real Comfort and Chadwick's of Boston

catalogs, and it has a catalog of home items, Brylane Home. Brylane

markets some catalogs under an agreement with Sears. It focuses on

clothing with limited fashion risk and broad selections of sizes,

styles, and colors. France's Pinault-Printemps-Redoute (PPR) bought

Brylane in 1998. PPR has collaborated with Brylane to offer a US

version of its top French catalog, La Redoute.

's Secret is owned by Intimate Brands.

As a leading retailer of women's intimate apparel and personal care

products, Intimate Brands should feel quite uplifted. The company has

nearly 2,400 stores under the names 's Secret (lingerie,

cosmetics, and fragrances) and Bath & Body Works (personal care

products). 's Secret also sells apparel online and mails out

more than 365 million copies a year of its famous namesake catalog,

which serves as a socially acceptable " girlie mag. " In addition,

Intimate Brands sells candles through White Barn Candle Co. stores and

is testing 's Secret beauty stores (many within 's

Secret stores). CEO Wexner owns 18% of retailer The Limited,

which in turn owns 84% of Intimate Brands.

FYI, :D

L.

6/26

Dr. Keshishian

-54 pounds

> If so, then the Limited owns them both.

>

> alyssa

>

> > Im not positive but I heard that Lane is also owned by s

> > Secret......

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,

Its passive aggressive I am convinced they hate fat people and this is their way

of getting even with us for daring to be fat. " horrible, ugly ill-fitting,

uncomfortable clothes. Now Liz Claiborne has a nice line called but I

always found that her clothes ran to big. Then there is of New York also

runs to big (although I always managed to eat my way into the bigger size).

Grrrr and I cant remeber the other line of clothes that I absolutely love for

work clothes. My clothing bill have kept many a CEO happy!!!!!!

Lisbeth

wrote: What I hate is that they use size 4 models.

You know that they've had

to drastically pin and tuck the material to get it to fit them

properly. You have to really, really know how something would look on

you. Then there's the problem with sleeves either way too long or way

too short. Sometimes I wonder why they want really short sleeves for

people who usually have very big upper arms. Either they are too

tight or you bulge out all around them.

P

> That, and they think that all fat people are 5'8 " or taller!!

Most

> of their skirts and dresses are floor-length on me!

>

> I am 5'8 " and taller, and they are all floor length on me. They

also

> assume that every fat person is long waisted, so the crotch hangs

> down to my knees. I end up wearing petites pants. The crotch hits

> where it should (if I pull the waistband over my boobs!) and all

the

> legs are cropped!

> Ellen

> DS 2/14/01 310

> dr. Anthone

> 8/22/01 230

> - 80 lbs.

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,

Its passive aggressive I am convinced they hate fat people and this is their way

of getting even with us for daring to be fat. " horrible, ugly ill-fitting,

uncomfortable clothes. Now Liz Claiborne has a nice line called but I

always found that her clothes ran to big. Then there is of New York also

runs to big (although I always managed to eat my way into the bigger size).

Grrrr and I cant remeber the other line of clothes that I absolutely love for

work clothes. My clothing bill have kept many a CEO happy!!!!!!

Lisbeth

wrote: What I hate is that they use size 4 models.

You know that they've had

to drastically pin and tuck the material to get it to fit them

properly. You have to really, really know how something would look on

you. Then there's the problem with sleeves either way too long or way

too short. Sometimes I wonder why they want really short sleeves for

people who usually have very big upper arms. Either they are too

tight or you bulge out all around them.

P

> That, and they think that all fat people are 5'8 " or taller!!

Most

> of their skirts and dresses are floor-length on me!

>

> I am 5'8 " and taller, and they are all floor length on me. They

also

> assume that every fat person is long waisted, so the crotch hangs

> down to my knees. I end up wearing petites pants. The crotch hits

> where it should (if I pull the waistband over my boobs!) and all

the

> legs are cropped!

> Ellen

> DS 2/14/01 310

> dr. Anthone

> 8/22/01 230

> - 80 lbs.

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> What I hate is that they use size 4 models. You know that they've had

> to drastically pin and tuck the material to get it to fit them

> properly. You have to really, really know how something would look on

> you.

I think that's why I like the Junonia catalog -- the models look overweight,

but healthy. Beats buying fat clothing out of a catalog filled with women

I'll never look like.

alyssa

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> What I hate is that they use size 4 models. You know that they've had

> to drastically pin and tuck the material to get it to fit them

> properly. You have to really, really know how something would look on

> you.

I think that's why I like the Junonia catalog -- the models look overweight,

but healthy. Beats buying fat clothing out of a catalog filled with women

I'll never look like.

alyssa

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I'm fond of the ones that come 4pr to a box for $5 at Target or

Walmart. Sometimes Safeway. They have up to 5x

in Seattle

>

> >Try Lane for nylons...they're pretty good and stretchy.

They don't

> >last long, though.

> >

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I'm fond of the ones that come 4pr to a box for $5 at Target or

Walmart. Sometimes Safeway. They have up to 5x

in Seattle

>

> >Try Lane for nylons...they're pretty good and stretchy.

They don't

> >last long, though.

> >

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