Re: what to drink

[Guest guest]

I have been told that a surgeon I am considering says no tea (except green

tea) after DS. I know some say no sodas or only flat sodas. So, what does

one drink after DS other than water or flavored water? Carole

[Guest guest]

I have been told that a surgeon I am considering says no tea (except green

tea) after DS. I know some say no sodas or only flat sodas. So, what does

one drink after DS other than water or flavored water? Carole

[Guest guest]

In a message dated 8/19/01 9:33:18 AM Pacific Daylight Time,

MsMystic1@... writes:

> I hope I will not have a problem giving up soda or the tea I

> like to drink now when I get home from work

Its weird but I was one that drank 5 or more diet cokes a day...I now have no

taste for them really. I have twice had a few sips but thats all I wanted.

I think its great...it was one thing I wondered if I would be able to at

least slow down on or give up. I bought a 2 liter diet coke the other night

and have yet to open it...<G> That NEVER would have been the case before WLS

!!!!

~~* AJ *~~

Age 37 5'8''

Post op 7/24/01 Open BPD/DS

self pay - Dr Baltasar -Alcoy Spain

07/24/01 BMI 64 - 415.1

08/06/01 BMI 59 - 390.2 -24.9 lbs!!!!!!!!!!~~~~

08/16/01 BMI 58 - 387.0 -27.9 lbs!!!!!!!!!!~~~~

Check out the Bellingham Support Group

and my personal page at WWW.WLSBellingham.homestead.com

[Guest guest]

In a message dated 8/19/01 9:33:18 AM Pacific Daylight Time,

MsMystic1@... writes:

> I hope I will not have a problem giving up soda or the tea I

> like to drink now when I get home from work

Its weird but I was one that drank 5 or more diet cokes a day...I now have no

taste for them really. I have twice had a few sips but thats all I wanted.

I think its great...it was one thing I wondered if I would be able to at

least slow down on or give up. I bought a 2 liter diet coke the other night

and have yet to open it...<G> That NEVER would have been the case before WLS

!!!!

~~* AJ *~~

Age 37 5'8''

Post op 7/24/01 Open BPD/DS

self pay - Dr Baltasar -Alcoy Spain

07/24/01 BMI 64 - 415.1

08/06/01 BMI 59 - 390.2 -24.9 lbs!!!!!!!!!!~~~~

08/16/01 BMI 58 - 387.0 -27.9 lbs!!!!!!!!!!~~~~

Check out the Bellingham Support Group

and my personal page at WWW.WLSBellingham.homestead.com

[Guest guest]

I like Glaceau Fruit Water. They taste great and come in awsome flavors. They

have no sugar and no calories. My personal favorite is the honey dew mellon.

They also come in Tangerine-pineapple-guava, lemon-lime, raspberry-lime and a

bunch of others. definitely give them a try. I think you can go check it out at

www.glaceau.com (I hope I spelled it right) I also like the Glaceau Vitmain

water that has sugar though. Supposedly the Glaceau vitamin water comes infused

with vitamins and stuff like ginseng. Reebok also puts out a " sports water " I am

drinking one right now. They come in 3 flavors CItrus, Berry & Natural. The

citrus one has 1 gram of sugar 30 calories and comes infused with Vitamin B6,

Folate, Vit B12, Magnesium, Zinc, selenium and chromium it also has a bit of

calcium and Vitamin C. I am not saying that these are going to meet vitamin

needs but they are a nice replacement to plain water and its heathier than soda.

Just my .02.

Lisbeth

Dr. Macura

June 25, 2001

Lisbeth

Dr. Macura

June 25, 2001

MsMystic1@... wrote: I have been told that a surgeon I am considering says

no tea (except green

tea) after DS. I know some say no sodas or only flat sodas. So, what does

one drink after DS other than water or flavored water? Carole

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[Guest guest]

I like Glaceau Fruit Water. They taste great and come in awsome flavors. They

have no sugar and no calories. My personal favorite is the honey dew mellon.

They also come in Tangerine-pineapple-guava, lemon-lime, raspberry-lime and a

bunch of others. definitely give them a try. I think you can go check it out at

www.glaceau.com (I hope I spelled it right) I also like the Glaceau Vitmain

water that has sugar though. Supposedly the Glaceau vitamin water comes infused

with vitamins and stuff like ginseng. Reebok also puts out a " sports water " I am

drinking one right now. They come in 3 flavors CItrus, Berry & Natural. The

citrus one has 1 gram of sugar 30 calories and comes infused with Vitamin B6,

Folate, Vit B12, Magnesium, Zinc, selenium and chromium it also has a bit of

calcium and Vitamin C. I am not saying that these are going to meet vitamin

needs but they are a nice replacement to plain water and its heathier than soda.

Just my .02.

Lisbeth

Dr. Macura

June 25, 2001

Lisbeth

Dr. Macura

June 25, 2001

MsMystic1@... wrote: I have been told that a surgeon I am considering says

no tea (except green

tea) after DS. I know some say no sodas or only flat sodas. So, what does

one drink after DS other than water or flavored water? Carole

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[Guest guest]

Carole,

There is Botanical Iced Drinks and Botanical Tea Drinks from costco in the

bottles. The tea drinks are quite delicious. Most of the time I just stick

with water and have the tea drinks with a meal or something. You begin to

crave water after surgery so dont worry too much about what to drink post

opt....later on you can have sodas.....there is Diet Rite soda with splenda

rather than asptertame which would be better for you when you are ready for

it....I quit buying all forms of sodas mainly becuz water is so much better

for you plus I save alot of money by not buying that stuff. Usually, when

we go out to eat we order a soda and drink it then.....a regular, not diet.

Judie

[Guest guest]

Carole,

There is Botanical Iced Drinks and Botanical Tea Drinks from costco in the

bottles. The tea drinks are quite delicious. Most of the time I just stick

with water and have the tea drinks with a meal or something. You begin to

crave water after surgery so dont worry too much about what to drink post

opt....later on you can have sodas.....there is Diet Rite soda with splenda

rather than asptertame which would be better for you when you are ready for

it....I quit buying all forms of sodas mainly becuz water is so much better

for you plus I save alot of money by not buying that stuff. Usually, when

we go out to eat we order a soda and drink it then.....a regular, not diet.

Judie

[Guest guest]

> for you plus I save alot of money by not buying that stuff.

Usually, when

> we go out to eat we order a soda and drink it then.....a regular,

not diet.

>

> Judie

Thanks for all the responses about this. Why would you order regular

soda instead of diet?

And I think those flavored waters are more costly than soda, so I

don't think it saves money (except if you just drink regular tap

water). I hope I will not have a problem giving up soda or the tea I

like to drink now when I get home from work.

Carole

[Guest guest]

> for you plus I save alot of money by not buying that stuff.

Usually, when

> we go out to eat we order a soda and drink it then.....a regular,

not diet.

>

> Judie

Thanks for all the responses about this. Why would you order regular

soda instead of diet?

And I think those flavored waters are more costly than soda, so I

don't think it saves money (except if you just drink regular tap

water). I hope I will not have a problem giving up soda or the tea I

like to drink now when I get home from work.

Carole

[Guest guest]

Why would you order regular

soda instead of diet?>>>>>>

Because of the aspertame in it! Apsertame is formaldehyde that they use in

embalming you when you die! Its also felt to be a " trigger " that makes you

crave carbs and is a key in obesity.....many diseases are attributed to

drinking this stuff. Since I dont drink sodas at home and rarely anyplace

else its safe to have a regular one occasionally like when we go out for

lunch.....

go to this website and read more about the dangers of aspertame;

www.dorway.com

Judie

Re: what to drink

>

> > for you plus I save alot of money by not buying that stuff.

> Usually, when

> > we go out to eat we order a soda and drink it then.....a regular,

> not diet.

> >

> > Judie

>

> Thanks for all the responses about this. Why would you order regular

> soda instead of diet?

> And I think those flavored waters are more costly than soda, so I

> don't think it saves money (except if you just drink regular tap

> water). I hope I will not have a problem giving up soda or the tea I

> like to drink now when I get home from work.

> Carole

>

>

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>

[Guest guest]

I hope I will not have a problem giving up soda or the tea I

like to drink now when I get home from work.

Carole>>>>

You wont! At first your brain might tell you that you need a soda but your

body will begin craving water.....perhaps ice water like me.....

I much prefer the water over other things now. Never thought that would

happen either!

Judie

[Guest guest]

I'm not sure why there is so much focus on continuing to use diet

products. While I dont overload myself with carbs, I too have an

occaisional regular soda. In the early pre-op days, it was the only

thing that settled my stomach. I didnt have this surgery so I could

keep dieting. And, BTW, I'm down 44lbs in 8 weeks. Protein first,

then whatever sounds good...

Meli

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-- In duodenalswitch@y..., MsMystic1@a... wrote:

>

> > for you plus I save alot of money by not buying that stuff.

> Usually, when

> > we go out to eat we order a soda and drink it then.....a regular,

> not diet.

> >

> > Judie

>

> Thanks for all the responses about this. Why would you order

regular

> soda instead of diet?

> And I think those flavored waters are more costly than soda, so I

> don't think it saves money (except if you just drink regular tap

> water). I hope I will not have a problem giving up soda or the tea

I

> like to drink now when I get home from work.

> Carole

[Guest guest]

I'm not sure why there is so much focus on continuing to use diet

products. While I dont overload myself with carbs, I too have an

occaisional regular soda. In the early pre-op days, it was the only

thing that settled my stomach. I didnt have this surgery so I could

keep dieting. And, BTW, I'm down 44lbs in 8 weeks. Protein first,

then whatever sounds good...

Meli

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-- In duodenalswitch@y..., MsMystic1@a... wrote:

>

> > for you plus I save alot of money by not buying that stuff.

> Usually, when

> > we go out to eat we order a soda and drink it then.....a regular,

> not diet.

> >

> > Judie

>

> Thanks for all the responses about this. Why would you order

regular

> soda instead of diet?

> And I think those flavored waters are more costly than soda, so I

> don't think it saves money (except if you just drink regular tap

> water). I hope I will not have a problem giving up soda or the tea

I

> like to drink now when I get home from work.

> Carole

[Guest guest]

I prefer diet drinks only because I rather use my carbs and calories

on other things. (This has been my thinking for years...and it still

didn't help.) Also, my hubby is diabetic and it makes it easier on

him. Also, I find that non diet drinks are way too sweet for me. I

wanted to ask a question though. I tried to search the archives to

see why no tea? I have been on a tea kick for the past few days and

now I am worried. I usually drink diet kool aid or water. I still

crave my diet coke but I haven't touched it. The surgery doesn't

instantly change your mindset. I had a really hard time excepting

that it was ok to eat fat. The only time I did that was on the

Atkins diet. I finally realized that I could have ketchup on this

sorry hunk of burger in front of me! LOL Also, once I had the

surgery, I had a really hard time believing it would work. I knew

for sure I would find a way to out eat this surgery. I also felt

like I was losing too slowly. I finally looked at my calendar and

realized that I lost 57 lbs in less than 8 weeks! What was I

complaining about? Why was I beating myself up? Because of the

years of dieting and being fat. That and people kept asking me, " Did

you lose any more weight? " " How much weight have you lost? " It

makes me obsess. Ok, well, I have rambled on here. Sorry.

Hunter

BMI 61 Dr Gagner June 18, 2001

As of 8/10/2001 -57 lbs BMI 52 Whoo hoooo!

> I'm not sure why there is so much focus on continuing to use diet

> products. While I dont overload myself with carbs, I too have an

> occaisional regular soda. In the early pre-op days, it was the

only

> thing that settled my stomach. I didnt have this surgery so I

could

> keep dieting. And, BTW, I'm down 44lbs in 8 weeks. Protein first,

> then whatever sounds good...

> Meli

> -

>

[Guest guest]

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We met briefly when you were in Mt. Sinai in June. Glad to see you're

doing so well!

Was 9/5 now 10/3 with Dr. Pomp at Mt. Sinai and not happy about the

wait.

[Guest guest]

Thanks ! You have no idea how much I appreciated the visit. It

was tough in there. I would have preferred a private room...make

sure you get one! I am sorry that you have been rescheduled but maybe

they can move you up if they have a cancellation? Also, isn't Dr.

Quinn supposed to be on her own in September? Maybe you might want

to schedule with her. She assisted with my surgery and she is very

very nice. Good luck and keep me posted.

June 18,2001 Dr. Gagner

BMI 61

As of 8/10/2001 -57lbs BMI 52 YAY!

> --

>

> We met briefly when you were in Mt. Sinai in June. Glad to see

you're

> doing so well!

>

>

> Was 9/5 now 10/3 with Dr. Pomp at Mt. Sinai and not happy about the

> wait.

[Guest guest]

In a message dated 8/20/01 5:04:49 PM Pacific Daylight Time,

jhensel@... writes:

> LOL As if that " diet coke " could cancel out the other

> foods I ate!!

>

It doesnt????? <tongue in cheek> LOL

~~* AJ *~~

Age 37 5'8''

Post op 7/24/01 Open BPD/DS

self pay - Dr Baltasar -Alcoy Spain

07/24/01 BMI 64 - 415.1

08/06/01 BMI 59 - 390.2 -24.9 lbs!!!!!!!!!!~~~~

08/16/01 BMI 58 - 387.0 -27.9 lbs!!!!!!!!!!~~~~

Check out the Bellingham Support Group

and my personal page at WWW.WLSBellingham.homestead.com

[Guest guest]

In a message dated 8/20/01 5:04:49 PM Pacific Daylight Time,

jhensel@... writes:

> Dr Welker told us to stay away from diet drinks with neutrasweet and

> caffeine in them. I thought I would never be able to function without my

> colas but since I have cut them out and havent had any diet foods at all

> since last Nov I find that I crave water ( I was NOT a water drinker before

> surgery) and do not care generally for beverages that are not water! As for

> the caffeine, Dr W thinks the caffeine makes you want to eat more...same

> with the diet drinks and the stuff in it.

> I

I think the caffeine making you want to eat more is true. I've only had a

few sips since my surgery...last night I had a glass and it really didnt

taste as good to me. I think the regular coke would be too sweet. I am

mostly drinking water now. I tried a diet Ice today and it was good but

rather sweet tasting to me. I don't like most of the crystal lites but will

try the lemonade again. I love regular lemonade even now...but I hate to

drink all that sugar...there just has to be a better product!!

~~* AJ *~~

Age 37 5'8''

Post op 7/24/01 Open BPD/DS

self pay - Dr Baltasar -Alcoy Spain

07/24/01 BMI 64 - 415.1

08/06/01 BMI 59 - 390.2 -24.9 lbs!!!!!!!!!!~~~~

08/16/01 BMI 58 - 387.0 -27.9 lbs!!!!!!!!!!~~~~

Check out the Bellingham Support Group

and my personal page at WWW.WLSBellingham.homestead.com

[Guest guest]

At 09:390 -0700 8/19/01, Judie Hensel wrote:

>Because of the aspertame in it! Apsertame is formaldehyde that they use in

>embalming you when you die! Its also felt to be a " trigger " that makes you

>crave carbs and is a key in obesity.....many diseases are attributed to

>drinking this stuff. Since I dont drink sodas at home and rarely anyplace

>else its safe to have a regular one occasionally like when we go out for

>lunch.....

>

>go to this website and read more about the dangers of aspertame;

OK, I don't like aspartame for many reasons but this is an urban

legend per Snopes:

http://www.snopes2.com/toxins/aspartam.htm

--stella

[Guest guest]

I really have to chime in here. There are diseases associated with

every product known to man. Aspartamine is not dangerous and I can

tell you without it I would have gained an additional 50 pounds

pre-op. You would have to consume atleast 2 semi's filled with

aspartamine to develop any disease. I don't care how much diet

soda you drink you won't get that far in lifetime. Splenda is a

wonderful product but still in the same category. You want

something that should scare you, how about a product that has had it's

molecules removed and reorganized. And then think of your body trying

to work with a product that is mutated. Not to mention that splenda is

between $1.00 and $2.00 more per container. You also have the fact

that most diet drinks are made with Nutrasweet not with splenda. The

goal is to get in as many fluids as possible. As far as I am concerned

you have to do that the way you feel comfortable doing it. I was not a

big water drinker pre-op and I am not post-op either. I do not like

it. And I have to force myself to drink it. As a post-op I have enough

things that I have to force myself to get in, I don't want to fight to

get in my liquids. I am able to drink 64 ounces of liquids a day using

diet drinks. I wouldn't be able to do this if I were drinking water.

> Why would you order regular

> soda instead of diet?>>>>>>

>

> Because of the aspertame in it! Apsertame is formaldehyde that they

use in

> embalming you when you die! Its also felt to be a " trigger " that

makes you

> crave carbs and is a key in obesity.....many diseases are attributed

to

> drinking this stuff. Since I dont drink sodas at home and rarely

anyplace

> else its safe to have a regular one occasionally like when we go out

for

> lunch.....

>

> go to this website and read more about the dangers of aspertame;

>

> www.dorway.com

>

> Judie

>

>

>

>

> Re: what to drink

>

>

> >

> > > for you plus I save alot of money by not buying that stuff.

> > Usually, when

> > > we go out to eat we order a soda and drink it then.....a

regular,

> > not diet.

> > >

> > > Judie

> >

> > Thanks for all the responses about this. Why would you order

regular

> > soda instead of diet?

> > And I think those flavored waters are more costly than soda, so I

> > don't think it saves money (except if you just drink regular tap

> > water). I hope I will not have a problem giving up soda or the

tea I

> > like to drink now when I get home from work.

> > Carole

> >

> >

> >

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> >

[Guest guest]

Stella,

Markle who is the owner of that website predicted they would find a

way to make it sound as if aspertame was an urban legend and they did! Some

fella (another Sue Wideland or whatever her last name is) jumped on the

bandwagon to save aspertame...know why? The company he works for has an

interest in nutrasweet which is aspertame!

I no longer believe everything in the urban legends pages.......

There are way too many people who were sick on diet products over the years

who also have an egroup thru yahoo who are now getting well after getting

off of this stuff......

Judie

[Guest guest]

after doing all the research on aspertame if you still feel its safe to

ingest, you are welcome to drink and eat all you can. Not me.....I choose

to put only good things in my body now.

I do know one thing......a friend of mine was diagnosed with

MS.....asptertame mimics MS in many cases. She got off the stuff and no

more symptoms......it was a false positive (so says her neurologist) For

the first time she now does not have a " foggy mind "

To each his own.....

Judie

[Guest guest]

At 15:27 -0700 8/20/01, Judie Hensel wrote:

> Markle who is the owner of that website predicted they would find a

>way to make it sound as if aspertame was an urban legend and they did! Some

Judie, I said I don't like aspartame for many reasons, some of which

are physical. But anybody who wants her message passed to as many

email lists as possible is going about it the wrong way. And I found

her website to be far too hyperbolic to be believable. Surely she can

get her message across without so many blazing colors, different

fonts, and capital letters...

And for many reasons I DO trust the Urban Legends site.

--stella

[Guest guest]

And for many reasons I DO trust the Urban Legends site>>

To each his own.......

I take everything in there with a grain of salt.