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We do absorb SOME, just not all.

Only you will know, by labs, if you gain wt. But I don't even believe the

healthy fats were all that bad during the trendy period. Sure fattened

everyone up, didn't it? They eschewed fats, turned to sugar. KABOOM

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Re: fat absorption: Question

> Jacque, Barbara, and ,

>

> I'm with you. I haven't avoided fats either. I am 2 1/2 yrs post-op and

my cholesterol is 135. My sister is having WLS this coming Tuesday. I have

been taking her on all her preop testings and support group meetings and

nutrition meetings, etc. I, too, feel like I need to sit quietly and shut

up when dieticians, doctors, and nutritionists start harping on avoiding all

fats. I want to ask why, but, like you said, Barbara, I think it will just

be thrown back at me, like I am the " bad " one. But I have never been able

to understand that. If I don't absorb fats, why avoid them? I like butter

on a roll sometimes. I like full fat cream cheese, and regular cheeses, and

regular mayonaise. The fat free stuff is horrendous. Why bother with it?

I try now and then. I really do. But it just sits in the fridge until it

rots. It's disgusting.

> So I came to the " experts " ......you guys. You are living this. I want to

know what everybody here does. I want to know the " truth " , not some

dietician's book learning about " normal " people.

>

> Chrissie

> shihtzumom@...

> http://users.snip.net/~shihtzumom

> My WLS Journey:

http://millennium.fortunecity.com/doddington/691/WLS/this_is_me.htm

>

>

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Absolutely correct. In the early months after my DS, my cholesterol

was around 100. I luxuriated in fatty things (fried onion rings

being a real favorite!). Now that my shortened intestinal digestive

path has accommodated to taking on functions once performed by the

entire 23 feet (or so) of small intestine, my fat absorption has

definitely increased somewhat, and my cholesterol has been inching up

toward 150. Still very healthy. I eat ass bacon (loin cut), butter,

eggs, lots of red meat, whatever. But, is correct: we still

absorb some of the fats, more and more of them as our intestines

re-adjust. So, one has to remain vigilant in paying attention to lab

work. My DS is pretty much akin to a distal RnY as far as fat

malabsorption is concerned. The more proximal you are with your RnY,

the more fats you will absorb, and the more careful you probably

should be.

--Steve

At 8:40 PM -0800 3/15/03, Vitalady wrote:

>We do absorb SOME, just not all.

>

>Only you will know, by labs, if you gain wt.

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Absolutely correct. In the early months after my DS, my cholesterol

was around 100. I luxuriated in fatty things (fried onion rings

being a real favorite!). Now that my shortened intestinal digestive

path has accommodated to taking on functions once performed by the

entire 23 feet (or so) of small intestine, my fat absorption has

definitely increased somewhat, and my cholesterol has been inching up

toward 150. Still very healthy. I eat ass bacon (loin cut), butter,

eggs, lots of red meat, whatever. But, is correct: we still

absorb some of the fats, more and more of them as our intestines

re-adjust. So, one has to remain vigilant in paying attention to lab

work. My DS is pretty much akin to a distal RnY as far as fat

malabsorption is concerned. The more proximal you are with your RnY,

the more fats you will absorb, and the more careful you probably

should be.

--Steve

At 8:40 PM -0800 3/15/03, Vitalady wrote:

>We do absorb SOME, just not all.

>

>Only you will know, by labs, if you gain wt.

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Exactly. I've worked hard to try to put the hypertrophy off as long as I

can myself. I mean, the body will win, eventually. My cholesterol is still

about 115. Trig are normal. But twice they've shot up & hit the sky. Then

poof, normal again, as if they were in hiding. Can't fix it if it wont' stay

put. LOL!

It's a matter of how it affects YOU, personally. I just know I avoid Fat

Free anything, cuz it means high sugar, and that is BAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAD news

for me.

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Re: fat absorption: Question

> Absolutely correct. In the early months after my DS, my cholesterol

> was around 100. I luxuriated in fatty things (fried onion rings

> being a real favorite!). Now that my shortened intestinal digestive

> path has accommodated to taking on functions once performed by the

> entire 23 feet (or so) of small intestine, my fat absorption has

> definitely increased somewhat, and my cholesterol has been inching up

> toward 150. Still very healthy. I eat ass bacon (loin cut), butter,

> eggs, lots of red meat, whatever. But, is correct: we still

> absorb some of the fats, more and more of them as our intestines

> re-adjust. So, one has to remain vigilant in paying attention to lab

> work. My DS is pretty much akin to a distal RnY as far as fat

> malabsorption is concerned. The more proximal you are with your RnY,

> the more fats you will absorb, and the more careful you probably

> should be.

>

> --Steve

>

> At 8:40 PM -0800 3/15/03, Vitalady wrote:

> >We do absorb SOME, just not all.

> >

> >Only you will know, by labs, if you gain wt.

>

>

> Homepage: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Graduate-OSSG

>

> Unsubscribe: mailto:Graduate-OSSG-unsubscribe

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>

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Exactly. I've worked hard to try to put the hypertrophy off as long as I

can myself. I mean, the body will win, eventually. My cholesterol is still

about 115. Trig are normal. But twice they've shot up & hit the sky. Then

poof, normal again, as if they were in hiding. Can't fix it if it wont' stay

put. LOL!

It's a matter of how it affects YOU, personally. I just know I avoid Fat

Free anything, cuz it means high sugar, and that is BAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAD news

for me.

Thanks,

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www.vitalady.com

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Re: fat absorption: Question

> Absolutely correct. In the early months after my DS, my cholesterol

> was around 100. I luxuriated in fatty things (fried onion rings

> being a real favorite!). Now that my shortened intestinal digestive

> path has accommodated to taking on functions once performed by the

> entire 23 feet (or so) of small intestine, my fat absorption has

> definitely increased somewhat, and my cholesterol has been inching up

> toward 150. Still very healthy. I eat ass bacon (loin cut), butter,

> eggs, lots of red meat, whatever. But, is correct: we still

> absorb some of the fats, more and more of them as our intestines

> re-adjust. So, one has to remain vigilant in paying attention to lab

> work. My DS is pretty much akin to a distal RnY as far as fat

> malabsorption is concerned. The more proximal you are with your RnY,

> the more fats you will absorb, and the more careful you probably

> should be.

>

> --Steve

>

> At 8:40 PM -0800 3/15/03, Vitalady wrote:

> >We do absorb SOME, just not all.

> >

> >Only you will know, by labs, if you gain wt.

>

>

> Homepage: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Graduate-OSSG

>

> Unsubscribe: mailto:Graduate-OSSG-unsubscribe

>

>

>

>

>

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Add me to the club!! Just checked my last labs, cholesterol 116, triglycerides

67. if I want butter I use butter (hate margarine!) real mayo (Best Foods!)

sour cream and Philadelphia cream cheese and sorry to say ...but I do

cook with ass bacon grease!! I bought turkey bacon and cooked it in bacon

fat.....what's that about?

My surgeon said, " You really don't eat fats, do you? " If he only knew!!

Sue in Las Vegas

Re: fat absorption: Question

Jacque, Barbara, and ,

I'm with you. I haven't avoided fats either. I am 2 1/2 yrs post-op and my

cholesterol is 135. My sister is having WLS this coming Tuesday. I have been

taking her on all her preop testings and support group meetings and nutrition

meetings, etc. I, too, feel like I need to sit quietly and shut up when

dieticians, doctors, and nutritionists start harping on avoiding all fats. I

want to ask why, but, like you said, Barbara, I think it will just be thrown

back at me, like I am the " bad " one. But I have never been able to understand

that. If I don't absorb fats, why avoid them? I like butter on a roll

sometimes. I like full fat cream cheese, and regular cheeses, and regular

mayonaise. The fat free stuff is horrendous. Why bother with it? I try now

and then. I really do. But it just sits in the fridge until it rots. It's

disgusting.

So I came to the " experts " ......you guys. You are living this. I want to

know what everybody here does. I want to know the " truth " , not some dietician's

book learning about " normal " people.

Chrissie

shihtzumom@...

http://users.snip.net/~shihtzumom

My WLS Journey:

http://millennium.fortunecity.com/doddington/691/WLS/this_is_me.htm

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Add me to the club!! Just checked my last labs, cholesterol 116, triglycerides

67. if I want butter I use butter (hate margarine!) real mayo (Best Foods!)

sour cream and Philadelphia cream cheese and sorry to say ...but I do

cook with ass bacon grease!! I bought turkey bacon and cooked it in bacon

fat.....what's that about?

My surgeon said, " You really don't eat fats, do you? " If he only knew!!

Sue in Las Vegas

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Jacque, Barbara, and ,

I'm with you. I haven't avoided fats either. I am 2 1/2 yrs post-op and my

cholesterol is 135. My sister is having WLS this coming Tuesday. I have been

taking her on all her preop testings and support group meetings and nutrition

meetings, etc. I, too, feel like I need to sit quietly and shut up when

dieticians, doctors, and nutritionists start harping on avoiding all fats. I

want to ask why, but, like you said, Barbara, I think it will just be thrown

back at me, like I am the " bad " one. But I have never been able to understand

that. If I don't absorb fats, why avoid them? I like butter on a roll

sometimes. I like full fat cream cheese, and regular cheeses, and regular

mayonaise. The fat free stuff is horrendous. Why bother with it? I try now

and then. I really do. But it just sits in the fridge until it rots. It's

disgusting.

So I came to the " experts " ......you guys. You are living this. I want to

know what everybody here does. I want to know the " truth " , not some dietician's

book learning about " normal " people.

Chrissie

shihtzumom@...

http://users.snip.net/~shihtzumom

My WLS Journey:

http://millennium.fortunecity.com/doddington/691/WLS/this_is_me.htm

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I always had bacon grease available. Thought that was how one cooked. LOL!

But um, I never added it to the drippings to make gravy. LOL!

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>

>

> Jacque, Barbara, and ,

>

> I'm with you. I haven't avoided fats either. I am 2 1/2 yrs post-op

and my cholesterol is 135. My sister is having WLS this coming Tuesday. I

have been taking her on all her preop testings and support group meetings

and nutrition meetings, etc. I, too, feel like I need to sit quietly and

shut up when dieticians, doctors, and nutritionists start harping on

avoiding all fats. I want to ask why, but, like you said, Barbara, I think

it will just be thrown back at me, like I am the " bad " one. But I have

never been able to understand that. If I don't absorb fats, why avoid them?

I like butter on a roll sometimes. I like full fat cream cheese, and

regular cheeses, and regular mayonaise. The fat free stuff is horrendous.

Why bother with it? I try now and then. I really do. But it just sits in

the fridge until it rots. It's disgusting.

> So I came to the " experts " ......you guys. You are living this. I want

to know what everybody here does. I want to know the " truth " , not some

dietician's book learning about " normal " people.

>

> Chrissie

> shihtzumom@...

> http://users.snip.net/~shihtzumom

> My WLS Journey:

http://millennium.fortunecity.com/doddington/691/WLS/this_is_me.htm

>

>

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I always had bacon grease available. Thought that was how one cooked. LOL!

But um, I never added it to the drippings to make gravy. LOL!

Thanks,

Vitalady, Inc. T

www.vitalady.com

If you are interested in PayPal, please click here:

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Re: fat absorption: Question

>

>

> Jacque, Barbara, and ,

>

> I'm with you. I haven't avoided fats either. I am 2 1/2 yrs post-op

and my cholesterol is 135. My sister is having WLS this coming Tuesday. I

have been taking her on all her preop testings and support group meetings

and nutrition meetings, etc. I, too, feel like I need to sit quietly and

shut up when dieticians, doctors, and nutritionists start harping on

avoiding all fats. I want to ask why, but, like you said, Barbara, I think

it will just be thrown back at me, like I am the " bad " one. But I have

never been able to understand that. If I don't absorb fats, why avoid them?

I like butter on a roll sometimes. I like full fat cream cheese, and

regular cheeses, and regular mayonaise. The fat free stuff is horrendous.

Why bother with it? I try now and then. I really do. But it just sits in

the fridge until it rots. It's disgusting.

> So I came to the " experts " ......you guys. You are living this. I want

to know what everybody here does. I want to know the " truth " , not some

dietician's book learning about " normal " people.

>

> Chrissie

> shihtzumom@...

> http://users.snip.net/~shihtzumom

> My WLS Journey:

http://millennium.fortunecity.com/doddington/691/WLS/this_is_me.htm

>

>

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Just the cholesterol & trig

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> Wish I could absorb a bit more. My skin is sooo dry. Always rubbing

creams

> and lotions into it. Figure if I were absorbing enough, I wouldn't have

this

> problem. So, I never deliberately limit it.

>

> What labs are you talking about ? Is there one for fats?

> Regards~

> Jacque

> Distal RNY, 5/30/00

> Drs. Fox and Oh

> 310~127

> Beginning BMI 50.0

> Current BMI 20.4

>

>

> > We do absorb SOME, just not all.

> >

> > Only you will know, by labs, if you gain wt. But I don't even believe

the

> > healthy fats were all that bad during the trendy period. Sure fattened

> > everyone up, didn't it? They eschewed fats, turned to sugar. KABOOM

>

>

>

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Just the cholesterol & trig

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Re: fat absorption: Question

> Wish I could absorb a bit more. My skin is sooo dry. Always rubbing

creams

> and lotions into it. Figure if I were absorbing enough, I wouldn't have

this

> problem. So, I never deliberately limit it.

>

> What labs are you talking about ? Is there one for fats?

> Regards~

> Jacque

> Distal RNY, 5/30/00

> Drs. Fox and Oh

> 310~127

> Beginning BMI 50.0

> Current BMI 20.4

>

>

> > We do absorb SOME, just not all.

> >

> > Only you will know, by labs, if you gain wt. But I don't even believe

the

> > healthy fats were all that bad during the trendy period. Sure fattened

> > everyone up, didn't it? They eschewed fats, turned to sugar. KABOOM

>

>

>

>

>

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I'm with you guys. I've tried the FF and low-fat versions of things and most

of the time, they'd choke a rat. I've become so picky about flavors, too,

and the real fats, of course, have better flavors. But, my cholesterol was a

bit on the high side the year after my WLS when I was trying to go low-fat,

and now has lowered considerably, well into the good ranges, eating the real

things. I never did get those " oil slicks, " but hey, whatever's going on,

I'm not complaining. Oh, I'm 150 cm bypassed.

in NJ

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>

> Jacque, Barbara, and ,

>

> I'm with you. I haven't avoided fats either. I am 2 1/2 yrs post-op and

> my cholesterol is 135

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I'm with you guys. I've tried the FF and low-fat versions of things and most

of the time, they'd choke a rat. I've become so picky about flavors, too,

and the real fats, of course, have better flavors. But, my cholesterol was a

bit on the high side the year after my WLS when I was trying to go low-fat,

and now has lowered considerably, well into the good ranges, eating the real

things. I never did get those " oil slicks, " but hey, whatever's going on,

I'm not complaining. Oh, I'm 150 cm bypassed.

in NJ

**********************

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shihtzumom@... writes:

>

> Jacque, Barbara, and ,

>

> I'm with you. I haven't avoided fats either. I am 2 1/2 yrs post-op and

> my cholesterol is 135

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Dawn, Fats do not bother me. But, and that is a big but, I don't eat a lot

of fried foods by choice, or mayonnaise. Mayo does make me nauseous. But I

eat plenty of beef and tons of cheese. (one ounce at a time).

Normal salad dressing, MMMM

Fay Bayuk

" 300/172 "

10/23/01

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Dawn, Fats do not bother me. But, and that is a big but, I don't eat a lot

of fried foods by choice, or mayonnaise. Mayo does make me nauseous. But I

eat plenty of beef and tons of cheese. (one ounce at a time).

Normal salad dressing, MMMM

Fay Bayuk

" 300/172 "

10/23/01

Dr.

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Jacque -

For what it's worth, I've had severe atopic dermatitis ALL my life (really

bad eczema, dry skin). Lived in and out of hospitals in Sacramento for the

first 7 year of my life. One of the reasons I was sent to Alaska at an early

age (7) was due to my skin condition (yeah, right, now we know Alaska is as

dry as a desert, just colder. Back then they said Alaska's weather would be

better for me than Sacramento).

Anyway, I've always gravitated to high fat food, absorbed it, cooked with it,

bacon grease was a staple growin up (always in an ol' soup can saved next to

the stove), and STILL I had a skin condition (very dry).

So, for what it's worth, don't thank that fat malabsorption has a heck of a

lot to do with this, entirely that is. I'm 47 and came from the days of pure

cortisone (for my skin - and it now shows it with scars). Over the years,

it's tanning (and lots of it) that has helped my dry skin problem/eczema,

believe it or not. Controllable with tanning and regular moisturizing with

lotion, i.e., dermatologist now recommends for me the new " Aveeno " lotions.

(As opposed to the ol' Aveeno baths I used to have to endure - big YUK.)

Just my personal experience.

Bobbie

Anchorage

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<< Wish I could absorb a bit more. My skin is sooo dry. Always rubbing

creams

and lotions into it. Figure if I were absorbing enough, I wouldn't have this

problem. So, I never deliberately limit it.

What labs are you talking about ? Is there one for fats?>>

Regards~

Jacque >>

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Jacque -

For what it's worth, I've had severe atopic dermatitis ALL my life (really

bad eczema, dry skin). Lived in and out of hospitals in Sacramento for the

first 7 year of my life. One of the reasons I was sent to Alaska at an early

age (7) was due to my skin condition (yeah, right, now we know Alaska is as

dry as a desert, just colder. Back then they said Alaska's weather would be

better for me than Sacramento).

Anyway, I've always gravitated to high fat food, absorbed it, cooked with it,

bacon grease was a staple growin up (always in an ol' soup can saved next to

the stove), and STILL I had a skin condition (very dry).

So, for what it's worth, don't thank that fat malabsorption has a heck of a

lot to do with this, entirely that is. I'm 47 and came from the days of pure

cortisone (for my skin - and it now shows it with scars). Over the years,

it's tanning (and lots of it) that has helped my dry skin problem/eczema,

believe it or not. Controllable with tanning and regular moisturizing with

lotion, i.e., dermatologist now recommends for me the new " Aveeno " lotions.

(As opposed to the ol' Aveeno baths I used to have to endure - big YUK.)

Just my personal experience.

Bobbie

Anchorage

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<< Wish I could absorb a bit more. My skin is sooo dry. Always rubbing

creams

and lotions into it. Figure if I were absorbing enough, I wouldn't have this

problem. So, I never deliberately limit it.

What labs are you talking about ? Is there one for fats?>>

Regards~

Jacque >>

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Chrissie,

I'll tell you what I know...others can chime in and correct me if I'm

wrong...or give more detail to what I am saying. It is true that we do not

absorb fat very well. I for one, run to the bathroom over certain fats. Not

to mention the horrible bloating that I'd prefer not to deal with. It is

true though, we need a certain amount of fat in our diet. Saturated or

unsaturated...help me guys. My surgeon and others in the diet world have

told me 30 grams of fat a day. It is an important part of anyone's daily

needs. We, as WLS individuals, cannot digest the bad fats. I'm not sure how

much we actually get of the good fats. For me, some fats give me no

problems, so I'm guessing some must digest...somewhere in my common

limb...I'm distal. There is no science for me. After almost 10 yrs (May

17th) I know what I can and can't eat. I will tell you that my cholesteral

is very low but not below the normal range. Bad fats are bad for " normal "

people as it makes for great health risks. As for us...it makes us

miserable. Part of our tool.

Dawn

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Chrissie,

I'll tell you what I know...others can chime in and correct me if I'm

wrong...or give more detail to what I am saying. It is true that we do not

absorb fat very well. I for one, run to the bathroom over certain fats. Not

to mention the horrible bloating that I'd prefer not to deal with. It is

true though, we need a certain amount of fat in our diet. Saturated or

unsaturated...help me guys. My surgeon and others in the diet world have

told me 30 grams of fat a day. It is an important part of anyone's daily

needs. We, as WLS individuals, cannot digest the bad fats. I'm not sure how

much we actually get of the good fats. For me, some fats give me no

problems, so I'm guessing some must digest...somewhere in my common

limb...I'm distal. There is no science for me. After almost 10 yrs (May

17th) I know what I can and can't eat. I will tell you that my cholesteral

is very low but not below the normal range. Bad fats are bad for " normal "

people as it makes for great health risks. As for us...it makes us

miserable. Part of our tool.

Dawn

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Yep, very appropriate. And to think my mom use to keep a big coffee can

of it near the stove for cooking. Yuck.

Lori Owen - Denton, Texas

CHF 4/14/01 479 lbs.

SRVG 7/16/01 401 lbs.

Current Weight 335

Dr. Ritter/Dr. Bryce

On Sun, 16 Mar 2003 04:07:19 EST fbayuk@... writes:

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>

> Definitely the most appropriate typo I have ever seen. It just

> makes my day.

>

> Fay

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Yep, very appropriate. And to think my mom use to keep a big coffee can

of it near the stove for cooking. Yuck.

Lori Owen - Denton, Texas

CHF 4/14/01 479 lbs.

SRVG 7/16/01 401 lbs.

Current Weight 335

Dr. Ritter/Dr. Bryce

On Sun, 16 Mar 2003 04:07:19 EST fbayuk@... writes:

> > ass bacon grease

>

> Definitely the most appropriate typo I have ever seen. It just

> makes my day.

>

> Fay

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Fay,

Lucky you! I try to avoid those that tear me up. It was quite the task getting

my Danish husband to cook with less fat. He actually would put butter in the pan

to fry ground hamburger. I put hamburger in water to cook and then use a

strainer. It can be browned more after I get rid of most the fat. I had my

surgery when my children were very young. They have pretty much eaten the

" healthy " way always. Three of their grandparents, one who died, have had heart

attacks. They don't have need excess fats. Trying to tell hubby this as well.

By the way...I love my beef and cheese too!

Dawn

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Fay,

Lucky you! I try to avoid those that tear me up. It was quite the task getting

my Danish husband to cook with less fat. He actually would put butter in the pan

to fry ground hamburger. I put hamburger in water to cook and then use a

strainer. It can be browned more after I get rid of most the fat. I had my

surgery when my children were very young. They have pretty much eaten the

" healthy " way always. Three of their grandparents, one who died, have had heart

attacks. They don't have need excess fats. Trying to tell hubby this as well.

By the way...I love my beef and cheese too!

Dawn

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I brown my ground beef, then rinse with hot water,. Not til it is sawdust,

but the first layer of fat is gone.

I'm not a fan of OD-ing on fats, just to clarify . It's really the FF stuff

I'm not happy with. INsteada 4 pretzels, it made me eat 44. I'm better off

with 4 GOOD pretzels & feeling satisfied. Know what I mean?

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Re: fat absorption: Question

> Fay,

>

> Lucky you! I try to avoid those that tear me up. It was quite the task

getting my Danish husband to cook with less fat. He actually would put

butter in the pan to fry ground hamburger. I put hamburger in water to cook

and then use a strainer. It can be browned more after I get rid of most the

fat. I had my surgery when my children were very young. They have pretty

much eaten the " healthy " way always. Three of their grandparents, one who

died, have had heart attacks. They don't have need excess fats. Trying to

tell hubby this as well.

>

> By the way...I love my beef and cheese too!

> Dawn

>

>

>

>

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I brown my ground beef, then rinse with hot water,. Not til it is sawdust,

but the first layer of fat is gone.

I'm not a fan of OD-ing on fats, just to clarify . It's really the FF stuff

I'm not happy with. INsteada 4 pretzels, it made me eat 44. I'm better off

with 4 GOOD pretzels & feeling satisfied. Know what I mean?

Thanks,

Vitalady, Inc. T

www.vitalady.com

If you are interested in PayPal, please click here:

https://www.paypal.com/affil/pal=orders%40vitalady.com

Re: fat absorption: Question

> Fay,

>

> Lucky you! I try to avoid those that tear me up. It was quite the task

getting my Danish husband to cook with less fat. He actually would put

butter in the pan to fry ground hamburger. I put hamburger in water to cook

and then use a strainer. It can be browned more after I get rid of most the

fat. I had my surgery when my children were very young. They have pretty

much eaten the " healthy " way always. Three of their grandparents, one who

died, have had heart attacks. They don't have need excess fats. Trying to

tell hubby this as well.

>

> By the way...I love my beef and cheese too!

> Dawn

>

>

>

>

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