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Thank you christel, tammy and alexis. I will have to keep all of this in mind. My nt daughter was on nystatin (yes we compound all meds) for a few months and it seemed helpful for awhile (my son was ok I think on it but his clostridia flared then it wasn't strong enough for flagyl). At first, we had some clostridia flares with her too which we treated with flagyl and sporanox and then we had her on nystatin for a few months without any antibs. She seemed to be doing well so I stoppd but she has become more sensitive since then -- I am thinking due to seasonal allergies though....anyway Her last clostridia marker on her oat was ridiculously hgih (3000) but we didn't treat bc I didn't see the point of giving her endless flagyl that seems to work only temporarily esp during allergy season... I am also wondering if her phenol sulfur issue had anything to do with her high marker bc I was trialing zinc sulfate at the time of her oat which gave her diarhea. Now waiting for our latest oat results but not sure how we will treat them yet. I am feeling like attacking the yeast and bac directly hasn't really worked so hoping that going at the high hhv6 titer with valtrex generic will help boost my son's immune system enough to tackle yeast and bad bac. It seems like they are both seesawing between yeast and clostridia (ie overtreat one and the other flares) but it is better than last year. My daughter also has the high hhv6 titer but I haven't decided yet how aggressive to treat her since she doesn't have dev issues (at least not yet and she is almost three).By the way, does anyone know good dans or other specialising in autism and immunology (besides goldberg) who will treat patients via skype/phone? I would love to look more into antivirals, ivig or oral ig, and pandas/pans/parasites/allergies. These areas don't seem to be the "specialty" of my current dan.-- Sent from my Palm Pre

megan when you do fluconizole do you compound it? if not it has lactose, red 40 and gluten in it

From: alexis_d3378

Sent: Saturday, June 16, 2012 4:40 PM

To: mb12valtrex

Subject: Re: Yeast

Hi ,Nystatin has a bacterial origin. It was isolated from Streptomyces noursei which is a bacterial strain. If you dig more into it,

streptomycetes give rise to amp B and other antibiotics even the clavulinic acid part of augmentin. Now I am not sure if after all the biochemical process of preparing these antimicrobials, strep strain persists or not or if changes at all. I asked this question to my dan also and he dismissed it as he doesn't

believe that the body identifies it as strep. From my own experience, nystatin was very tough on my kid. But he doesn't do well on diflucan either. I see ocd worsening, tantrums and mood swings every time I start even the diflucan. Is it just die off or a more serious issue like immune dysregulation/pans resulting from the antimicrobials. Now fluconazole is a synthetic antifungal and I couldn't find a relation to streptomycetes. Still while my son is on fluconazole, he gets more pandas like symptoms. So is it what yeast die off

looks like in some kids or these antimicrobials cause more immune dysfunction or even trigger pandas because of their origin? I think even Dr Swedo may not have the answer to that. A lot of doctors don't even believe that strep thermophilus in yogurt triggers the same immune response in children predisposed to pandas. I don't think I helped in any way by discussing all this but it would be good for everyone to learn more about it and if there are parents who have figured this out, please share. is> > > > > & nbsp; > > > > we LOVE this product, have used it for years. there is > a power punch to it since there are so many

fighers in there. & nbsp; so even if > you are only sensitive to a few you are bound to get the boogers. & nbsp; the > other beauty of this is many things you fight the yeast you create bacteria or > fight bacteria and you get yeast. & nbsp; this one has a great balance to get > BOTH in one swipe> & nbsp;> > > > >

From: > Sent: Thursday, June 07, 2012 9:27 AM> To: mb12valtrex > > Subject: Yeast> > & nbsp;

> > > I was going to try Kirkmans yeast aid and wanted to know if anyone has > tryed it. We use nystatin all ready and probiotics . Any suggestions. > Ty> > > No virus found in this message.> Checked by > AVG - www.avg.com> Version: 2012.0.1913 / > Virus Database: 2433/5053 - Release Date: 06/06/12> > = > > > No virus found in this > message.> Checked by AVG - www.avg.com> Version: 2012.0.1913 / Virus > Database: 2433/5056 - Release Date: > 06/08/12>

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Thank you christel, tammy and alexis. I will have to keep all of this in mind. My nt daughter was on nystatin (yes we compound all meds) for a few months and it seemed helpful for awhile (my son was ok I think on it but his clostridia flared then it wasn't strong enough for flagyl). At first, we had some clostridia flares with her too which we treated with flagyl and sporanox and then we had her on nystatin for a few months without any antibs. She seemed to be doing well so I stoppd but she has become more sensitive since then -- I am thinking due to seasonal allergies though....anyway Her last clostridia marker on her oat was ridiculously hgih (3000) but we didn't treat bc I didn't see the point of giving her endless flagyl that seems to work only temporarily esp during allergy season... I am also wondering if her phenol sulfur issue had anything to do with her high marker bc I was trialing zinc sulfate at the time of her oat which gave her diarhea. Now waiting for our latest oat results but not sure how we will treat them yet. I am feeling like attacking the yeast and bac directly hasn't really worked so hoping that going at the high hhv6 titer with valtrex generic will help boost my son's immune system enough to tackle yeast and bad bac. It seems like they are both seesawing between yeast and clostridia (ie overtreat one and the other flares) but it is better than last year. My daughter also has the high hhv6 titer but I haven't decided yet how aggressive to treat her since she doesn't have dev issues (at least not yet and she is almost three).By the way, does anyone know good dans or other specialising in autism and immunology (besides goldberg) who will treat patients via skype/phone? I would love to look more into antivirals, ivig or oral ig, and pandas/pans/parasites/allergies. These areas don't seem to be the "specialty" of my current dan.-- Sent from my Palm Pre

megan when you do fluconizole do you compound it? if not it has lactose, red 40 and gluten in it

From: alexis_d3378

Sent: Saturday, June 16, 2012 4:40 PM

To: mb12valtrex

Subject: Re: Yeast

Hi ,Nystatin has a bacterial origin. It was isolated from Streptomyces noursei which is a bacterial strain. If you dig more into it,

streptomycetes give rise to amp B and other antibiotics even the clavulinic acid part of augmentin. Now I am not sure if after all the biochemical process of preparing these antimicrobials, strep strain persists or not or if changes at all. I asked this question to my dan also and he dismissed it as he doesn't

believe that the body identifies it as strep. From my own experience, nystatin was very tough on my kid. But he doesn't do well on diflucan either. I see ocd worsening, tantrums and mood swings every time I start even the diflucan. Is it just die off or a more serious issue like immune dysregulation/pans resulting from the antimicrobials. Now fluconazole is a synthetic antifungal and I couldn't find a relation to streptomycetes. Still while my son is on fluconazole, he gets more pandas like symptoms. So is it what yeast die off

looks like in some kids or these antimicrobials cause more immune dysfunction or even trigger pandas because of their origin? I think even Dr Swedo may not have the answer to that. A lot of doctors don't even believe that strep thermophilus in yogurt triggers the same immune response in children predisposed to pandas. I don't think I helped in any way by discussing all this but it would be good for everyone to learn more about it and if there are parents who have figured this out, please share. is> > > > > & nbsp; > > > > we LOVE this product, have used it for years. there is > a power punch to it since there are so many

fighers in there. & nbsp; so even if > you are only sensitive to a few you are bound to get the boogers. & nbsp; the > other beauty of this is many things you fight the yeast you create bacteria or > fight bacteria and you get yeast. & nbsp; this one has a great balance to get > BOTH in one swipe> & nbsp;> > > > >

From: > Sent: Thursday, June 07, 2012 9:27 AM> To: mb12valtrex > > Subject: Yeast> > & nbsp;

> > > I was going to try Kirkmans yeast aid and wanted to know if anyone has > tryed it. We use nystatin all ready and probiotics . Any suggestions. > Ty> > > No virus found in this message.> Checked by > AVG - www.avg.com> Version: 2012.0.1913 / > Virus Database: 2433/5053 - Release Date: 06/06/12> > = > > > No virus found in this > message.> Checked by AVG - www.avg.com> Version: 2012.0.1913 / Virus > Database: 2433/5056 - Release Date: > 06/08/12>

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We are seeing Dr. Bradstreet via Skype. His practice - http://www.creationsown dot comHis blog - (great blog!) http://drbradstreet dot org....anna To: "mb12valtrex " <mb12valtrex > Sent: Saturday, June 16,

2012 11:57 PM Subject: Re: Re: Yeast

Thank you christel, tammy and alexis. I will have to keep all of this in mind. My nt daughter was on nystatin (yes we compound all meds) for a few months and it seemed helpful for awhile (my son was ok I think on it but his clostridia flared then it wasn't strong enough for flagyl). At first, we had some clostridia flares with her too which we treated with flagyl and sporanox and then we had her on nystatin for a few months without any antibs. She seemed to be doing well so I stoppd but she has become more sensitive since then -- I am thinking due to seasonal allergies though....anyway Her last clostridia marker on her oat was ridiculously hgih (3000) but we didn't treat bc I didn't see the point of giving her endless flagyl that seems to work only temporarily esp during allergy season... I am also wondering if her phenol sulfur issue had anything to do with her high marker bc I was trialing zinc sulfate at the time of her oat

which gave her diarhea. Now waiting for our latest oat results but not sure how we will treat them yet. I am feeling like attacking the yeast and bac directly hasn't really worked so hoping that going at the high hhv6 titer with valtrex generic will help boost my son's immune system enough to tackle yeast and bad bac. It seems like they are both seesawing between yeast and clostridia (ie overtreat one and the other flares) but it is better than last year. My daughter also has the high hhv6 titer but I haven't decided yet how aggressive to treat her since she doesn't have dev issues (at least not yet and she is almost three).By the way, does anyone know good dans or other specialising in autism and immunology (besides goldberg) who will treat patients via skype/phone? I would love to look more into antivirals, ivig or oral ig, and pandas/pans/parasites/allergies. These areas don't seem to be the "specialty" of my

current dan.-- Sent from my Palm Pre

megan when you do fluconizole do you compound it? if not it has lactose, red 40 and gluten in it

From: alexis_d3378

Sent: Saturday, June 16, 2012 4:40 PM

To: mb12valtrex

Subject: Re: Yeast

Hi ,Nystatin has a bacterial origin. It was isolated from Streptomyces noursei which is a bacterial strain. If you dig more into it,

streptomycetes give rise to amp B and other antibiotics even the clavulinic acid part of augmentin. Now I am not sure if after all the biochemical process of preparing these antimicrobials, strep strain persists or not or if changes at all. I asked this question to my dan also and he dismissed it as he doesn't

believe that the body identifies it as strep. From my own experience, nystatin was very tough on my kid. But he doesn't do well on diflucan either. I see ocd worsening, tantrums and mood swings every time I start even the diflucan. Is it just die off or a more serious issue like immune dysregulation/pans resulting from the antimicrobials. Now fluconazole is a synthetic antifungal and I couldn't find a relation to streptomycetes. Still while my son is on fluconazole, he gets more pandas like symptoms. So is it what yeast die off

looks like in some kids or these antimicrobials cause more immune dysfunction or even trigger pandas because of their origin? I think even Dr Swedo may not have the answer to that. A lot of doctors don't even believe that strep thermophilus in yogurt triggers the same immune response in children predisposed to pandas. I don't think I helped in any way by discussing all this but it would be good for everyone to learn more about it and if there are parents who have figured this out, please share. is> > > > > & nbsp; > > > > we LOVE this product, have used it for years. there is > a power punch to it since there are so many

fighers in there. & nbsp; so even if > you are only sensitive to a few you are bound to get the boogers. & nbsp; the > other beauty of this is many things you fight the yeast you create bacteria or > fight bacteria and you get yeast. & nbsp; this one has a great balance to get > BOTH in one swipe> & nbsp;> > > > >

From: > Sent: Thursday, June 07, 2012 9:27 AM> To: mb12valtrex > > Subject: Yeast> > & nbsp;

> > > I was going to try Kirkmans yeast aid and wanted to know if anyone has > tryed it. We use nystatin all ready and probiotics . Any suggestions. > Ty> > > No virus found in this message.> Checked by > AVG - www.avg.com> Version: 2012.0.1913 / > Virus Database: 2433/5053 - Release Date: 06/06/12> > = > > > No virus found in this > message.> Checked by AVG - www.avg.com> Version: 2012.0.1913 / Virus > Database: 2433/5056 - Release Date: > 06/08/12>

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We are seeing Dr. Bradstreet via Skype. His practice - http://www.creationsown dot comHis blog - (great blog!) http://drbradstreet dot org....anna To: "mb12valtrex " <mb12valtrex > Sent: Saturday, June 16,

2012 11:57 PM Subject: Re: Re: Yeast

Thank you christel, tammy and alexis. I will have to keep all of this in mind. My nt daughter was on nystatin (yes we compound all meds) for a few months and it seemed helpful for awhile (my son was ok I think on it but his clostridia flared then it wasn't strong enough for flagyl). At first, we had some clostridia flares with her too which we treated with flagyl and sporanox and then we had her on nystatin for a few months without any antibs. She seemed to be doing well so I stoppd but she has become more sensitive since then -- I am thinking due to seasonal allergies though....anyway Her last clostridia marker on her oat was ridiculously hgih (3000) but we didn't treat bc I didn't see the point of giving her endless flagyl that seems to work only temporarily esp during allergy season... I am also wondering if her phenol sulfur issue had anything to do with her high marker bc I was trialing zinc sulfate at the time of her oat

which gave her diarhea. Now waiting for our latest oat results but not sure how we will treat them yet. I am feeling like attacking the yeast and bac directly hasn't really worked so hoping that going at the high hhv6 titer with valtrex generic will help boost my son's immune system enough to tackle yeast and bad bac. It seems like they are both seesawing between yeast and clostridia (ie overtreat one and the other flares) but it is better than last year. My daughter also has the high hhv6 titer but I haven't decided yet how aggressive to treat her since she doesn't have dev issues (at least not yet and she is almost three).By the way, does anyone know good dans or other specialising in autism and immunology (besides goldberg) who will treat patients via skype/phone? I would love to look more into antivirals, ivig or oral ig, and pandas/pans/parasites/allergies. These areas don't seem to be the "specialty" of my

current dan.-- Sent from my Palm Pre

megan when you do fluconizole do you compound it? if not it has lactose, red 40 and gluten in it

From: alexis_d3378

Sent: Saturday, June 16, 2012 4:40 PM

To: mb12valtrex

Subject: Re: Yeast

Hi ,Nystatin has a bacterial origin. It was isolated from Streptomyces noursei which is a bacterial strain. If you dig more into it,

streptomycetes give rise to amp B and other antibiotics even the clavulinic acid part of augmentin. Now I am not sure if after all the biochemical process of preparing these antimicrobials, strep strain persists or not or if changes at all. I asked this question to my dan also and he dismissed it as he doesn't

believe that the body identifies it as strep. From my own experience, nystatin was very tough on my kid. But he doesn't do well on diflucan either. I see ocd worsening, tantrums and mood swings every time I start even the diflucan. Is it just die off or a more serious issue like immune dysregulation/pans resulting from the antimicrobials. Now fluconazole is a synthetic antifungal and I couldn't find a relation to streptomycetes. Still while my son is on fluconazole, he gets more pandas like symptoms. So is it what yeast die off

looks like in some kids or these antimicrobials cause more immune dysfunction or even trigger pandas because of their origin? I think even Dr Swedo may not have the answer to that. A lot of doctors don't even believe that strep thermophilus in yogurt triggers the same immune response in children predisposed to pandas. I don't think I helped in any way by discussing all this but it would be good for everyone to learn more about it and if there are parents who have figured this out, please share. is> > > > > & nbsp; > > > > we LOVE this product, have used it for years. there is > a power punch to it since there are so many

fighers in there. & nbsp; so even if > you are only sensitive to a few you are bound to get the boogers. & nbsp; the > other beauty of this is many things you fight the yeast you create bacteria or > fight bacteria and you get yeast. & nbsp; this one has a great balance to get > BOTH in one swipe> & nbsp;> > > > >

From: > Sent: Thursday, June 07, 2012 9:27 AM> To: mb12valtrex > > Subject: Yeast> > & nbsp;

> > > I was going to try Kirkmans yeast aid and wanted to know if anyone has > tryed it. We use nystatin all ready and probiotics . Any suggestions. > Ty> > > No virus found in this message.> Checked by > AVG - www.avg.com> Version: 2012.0.1913 / > Virus Database: 2433/5053 - Release Date: 06/06/12> > = > > > No virus found in this > message.> Checked by AVG - www.avg.com> Version: 2012.0.1913 / Virus > Database: 2433/5056 - Release Date: > 06/08/12>

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We finally got yeast under control when we changed diets to SCD (although paleo,

gaps, bed are all similar) and started ketakonazole (sp?)

We didn't see any benefit from nystatin and dropped it after I read a thread on

the possible dangerous effects...search the archives " can someone educate me on

nystatin "

Cheers, mardi

>

> Which grains do you recommend I pull out of their diet?

> Sent from my BlackBerry wireless device from MTN

>

> Re: Re: Yeast

>

> I have found the only way to significantly reduce yeast hyper behavior is to

cut out sugar, limit fruit drastically and eliminate grains. Not easy for

everyone i realize.

>

> Sent from Yahoo! Mail on Android

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We finally got yeast under control when we changed diets to SCD (although paleo,

gaps, bed are all similar) and started ketakonazole (sp?)

We didn't see any benefit from nystatin and dropped it after I read a thread on

the possible dangerous effects...search the archives " can someone educate me on

nystatin "

Cheers, mardi

>

> Which grains do you recommend I pull out of their diet?

> Sent from my BlackBerry wireless device from MTN

>

> Re: Re: Yeast

>

> I have found the only way to significantly reduce yeast hyper behavior is to

cut out sugar, limit fruit drastically and eliminate grains. Not easy for

everyone i realize.

>

> Sent from Yahoo! Mail on Android

>

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theres a great product called 'Intestaclear' by Orthoplex. We tackled yeast for a long time but found it impossible to eliminate all grains and do the SCD as our children have fructose intolerance and therefore had already limited diets. This product is an anti-fungal anti iral anti bacterial and even fights worms. it has done wonders with both children.

To: mb12valtrex Sent: Monday, 18 June 2012 3:43 PMSubject: Re: Yeast

We finally got yeast under control when we changed diets to SCD (although paleo, gaps, bed are all similar) and started ketakonazole (sp?)We didn't see any benefit from nystatin and dropped it after I read a thread on the possible dangerous effects...search the archives "can someone educate me on nystatin"Cheers, mardi>> Which grains do you recommend I pull out of their diet?> Sent from my BlackBerry wireless device from MTN> > Re: Re: Yeast> > I have found the only way to significantly reduce yeast hyper behavior is to cut out sugar, limit fruit drastically and eliminate grains. Not easy for everyone i realize.> > Sent from Yahoo! Mail on Android>

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theres a great product called 'Intestaclear' by Orthoplex. We tackled yeast for a long time but found it impossible to eliminate all grains and do the SCD as our children have fructose intolerance and therefore had already limited diets. This product is an anti-fungal anti iral anti bacterial and even fights worms. it has done wonders with both children.

To: mb12valtrex Sent: Monday, 18 June 2012 3:43 PMSubject: Re: Yeast

We finally got yeast under control when we changed diets to SCD (although paleo, gaps, bed are all similar) and started ketakonazole (sp?)We didn't see any benefit from nystatin and dropped it after I read a thread on the possible dangerous effects...search the archives "can someone educate me on nystatin"Cheers, mardi>> Which grains do you recommend I pull out of their diet?> Sent from my BlackBerry wireless device from MTN> > Re: Re: Yeast> > I have found the only way to significantly reduce yeast hyper behavior is to cut out sugar, limit fruit drastically and eliminate grains. Not easy for everyone i realize.> > Sent from Yahoo! Mail on Android>

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Thank you christel, tammy and alexis. I will have to keep all of this in mind. My nt daughter was on nystatin (yes we compound all meds) for a few months and it seemed helpful for awhile (my son was ok I think on it but his clostridia flared then it wasn't strong enough for flagyl). At first, we had some clostridia flares with her too which we treated with flagyl and sporanox and then we had her on nystatin for a few months without any antibs. She seemed to be doing well so I stoppd but she has become more sensitive since then -- I am thinking due to seasonal allergies though....anyway Her last clostridia marker on her oat was ridiculously hgih (3000) but we didn't treat bc I didn't see the point of giving her endless flagyl that seems to work only temporarily esp during allergy season... I am also wondering if her phenol sulfur issue had anything to do with her high marker bc I was trialing zinc sulfate at the time of her oat which gave her diarhea. Now waiting for our latest oat results but not sure how we will treat them yet. I am feeling like attacking the yeast and bac directly hasn't really worked so hoping that going at the high hhv6 titer with valtrex generic will help boost my son's immune system enough to tackle yeast and bad bac. It seems like they are both seesawing between yeast and clostridia (ie overtreat one and the other flares) but it is better than last year. My daughter also has the high hhv6 titer but I haven't decided yet how aggressive to treat her since she doesn't have dev issues (at least not yet and she is almost three).By the way, does anyone know good dans or other specialising in autism and immunology (besides goldberg) who will treat patients via skype/phone? I would love to look more into antivirals, ivig or oral ig, and pandas/pans/parasites/allergies. These areas don't seem to be the "specialty" of my current dan.

-- Sent from my Palm Pre

megan when you do fluconizole do you compound it? if not it has lactose, red 40 and gluten in it

From: alexis_d3378

Sent: Saturday, June 16, 2012 4:40 PM

To: mb12valtrex

Subject: Re: Yeast

Hi ,Nystatin has a bacterial origin. It was isolated from Streptomyces noursei which is a bacterial strain. If you dig more into it, streptomycetes give rise to amp B and other antibiotics even the clavulinic acid part of augmentin. Now I am not sure if after all the biochemical process of preparing these antimicrobials, strep strain persists or not or if changes at all. I asked this question to my dan also and he dismissed it as he doesn't believe that the body identifies it as strep. From my own experience, nystatin was very tough on my kid. But he doesn't do well on diflucan either. I see ocd worsening, tantrums and mood swings every time I start even the diflucan. Is it just die off or a more serious issue like immune dysregulation/pans resulting from the antimicrobials. Now fluconazole is a synthetic antifungal and I couldn't find a relation to streptomycetes. Still while my son is on fluconazole, he gets more pandas like symptoms. So is it what yeast die off looks like in some kids or these antimicrobials cause more immune dysfunction or even trigger pandas because of their origin? I think even Dr Swedo may not have the answer to that. A lot of doctors don't even believe that strep thermophilus in yogurt triggers the same immune response in children predisposed to pandas. I don't think I helped in any way by discussing all this but it would be good for everyone to learn more about it and if there are parents who have figured this out, please share. is> > > > > & nbsp; > > > > we LOVE this product, have used it for years. there is > a power punch to it since there are so many fighers in there. & nbsp; so even if > you are only sensitive to a few you are bound to get the boogers. & nbsp; the > other beauty of this is many things you fight the yeast you create bacteria or > fight bacteria and you get yeast. & nbsp; this one has a great balance to get > BOTH in one swipe> & nbsp;> > > > > From: > Sent: Thursday, June 07, 2012 9:27 AM> To: mb12valtrex > > Subject: Yeast> > & nbsp; > > > I was going to try Kirkmans yeast aid and wanted to know if anyone has > tryed it. We use nystatin all ready and probiotics . Any suggestions. > Ty> > > No virus found in this message.> Checked by > AVG - www.avg.com> Version: 2012.0.1913 / > Virus Database: 2433/5053 - Release Date: 06/06/12> > = > > > No virus found in this > message.> Checked by AVG - www.avg.com> Version: 2012.0.1913 / Virus > Database: 2433/5056 - Release Date: > 06/08/12>

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To: mb12valtrex

Subject: Re: Re: Yeast

Thank you christel, tammy and alexis. I will have to keep all of this in mind. My nt daughter was on nystatin (yes we compound all meds) for a few months and it seemed helpful for awhile (my son was ok I think on it but his clostridia flared then it wasn't strong enough for flagyl). At first, we had some clostridia flares with her too which we treated with flagyl and sporanox and then we had her on nystatin for a few months without any antibs. She seemed to be doing well so I stoppd but she has become more sensitive since then -- I am thinking due to seasonal allergies though....anyway Her last clostridia marker on her oat was ridiculously hgih (3000) but we didn't treat bc I didn't see the point of giving her endless flagyl that seems to work only temporarily esp during allergy season... I am also wondering if her phenol sulfur issue had anything to do with her high marker bc I was trialing zinc sulfate at the time of her oat which gave her diarhea. Now waiting for our latest oat results but not sure how we will treat them yet. I am feeling like attacking the yeast and bac directly hasn't really worked so hoping that going at the high hhv6 titer with valtrex generic will help boost my son's immune system enough to tackle yeast and bad bac. It seems like they are both seesawing between yeast and clostridia (ie overtreat one and the other flares) but it is better than last year. My daughter also has the high hhv6 titer but I haven't decided yet how aggressive to treat her since she doesn't have dev issues (at least not yet and she is almost three).By the way, does anyone know good dans or other specialising in autism and immunology (besides goldberg) who will treat patients via skype/phone? I would love to look more into antivirals, ivig or oral ig, and pandas/pans/parasites/allergies. These areas don't seem to be the "specialty" of my current dan.

-- Sent from my Palm Pre

megan when you do fluconizole do you compound it? if not it has lactose, red 40 and gluten in it

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Sent: Saturday, June 16, 2012 4:40 PM

To: mb12valtrex

Subject: Re: Yeast

Hi ,Nystatin has a bacterial origin. It was isolated from Streptomyces noursei which is a bacterial strain. If you dig more into it, streptomycetes give rise to amp B and other antibiotics even the clavulinic acid part of augmentin. Now I am not sure if after all the biochemical process of preparing these antimicrobials, strep strain persists or not or if changes at all. I asked this question to my dan also and he dismissed it as he doesn't believe that the body identifies it as strep. From my own experience, nystatin was very tough on my kid. But he doesn't do well on diflucan either. I see ocd worsening, tantrums and mood swings every time I start even the diflucan. Is it just die off or a more serious issue like immune dysregulation/pans resulting from the antimicrobials. Now fluconazole is a synthetic antifungal and I couldn't find a relation to streptomycetes. Still while my son is on fluconazole, he gets more pandas like symptoms. So is it what yeast die off looks like in some kids or these antimicrobials cause more immune dysfunction or even trigger pandas because of their origin? I think even Dr Swedo may not have the answer to that. A lot of doctors don't even believe that strep thermophilus in yogurt triggers the same immune response in children predisposed to pandas. I don't think I helped in any way by discussing all this but it would be good for everyone to learn more about it and if there are parents who have figured this out, please share. is> > > > > & nbsp; > > > > we LOVE this product, have used it for years. there is > a power punch to it since there are so many fighers in there. & nbsp; so even if > you are only sensitive to a few you are bound to get the boogers. & nbsp; the > other beauty of this is many things you fight the yeast you create bacteria or > fight bacteria and you get yeast. & nbsp; this one has a great balance to get > BOTH in one swipe> & nbsp;> > > > > From: > Sent: Thursday, June 07, 2012 9:27 AM> To: mb12valtrex > > Subject: Yeast> > & nbsp; > > > I was going to try Kirkmans yeast aid and wanted to know if anyone has > tryed it. We use nystatin all ready and probiotics . Any suggestions. > Ty> > > No virus found in this message.> Checked by > AVG - www.avg.com> Version: 2012.0.1913 / > Virus Database: 2433/5053 - Release Date: 06/06/12> > = > > > No virus found in this > message.> Checked by AVG - www.avg.com> Version: 2012.0.1913 / Virus > Database: 2433/5056 - Release Date: > 06/08/12>

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great office staff.

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> >

> >

> >

> > we LOVE this product, have used it for years. there is

> > a power punch to it since there are so many fighers in there. & nbsp; so even

if

> > you are only sensitive to a few you are bound to get the boogers. & nbsp; the

> > other beauty of this is many things you fight the yeast you create bacteria

or

> > fight bacteria and you get yeast. & nbsp; this one has a great balance to get

> > BOTH in one swipe

> > & nbsp;

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > From:

> > Sent: Thursday, June 07, 2012 9:27 AM

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> >

> > Subject: Yeast

> >

> > & nbsp;

> >

> >

> > I was going to try Kirkmans yeast aid and wanted to know if anyone has

> > tryed it. We use nystatin all ready and probiotics . Any suggestions.

> > Ty

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Thanks to Christel, we, too, see him. He is very knowledgable, thorough w a

great office staff.

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> >

> >

> >

> > & nbsp;

> >

> >

> >

> > we LOVE this product, have used it for years. there is

> > a power punch to it since there are so many fighers in there. & nbsp; so even

if

> > you are only sensitive to a few you are bound to get the boogers. & nbsp; the

> > other beauty of this is many things you fight the yeast you create bacteria

or

> > fight bacteria and you get yeast. & nbsp; this one has a great balance to get

> > BOTH in one swipe

> > & nbsp;

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > From:

> > Sent: Thursday, June 07, 2012 9:27 AM

> > To: mb12valtrex

> >

> > Subject: Yeast

> >

> > & nbsp;

> >

> >

> > I was going to try Kirkmans yeast aid and wanted to know if anyone has

> > tryed it. We use nystatin all ready and probiotics . Any suggestions.

> > Ty

> >

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Thank you Christel and . Is he in Kansas?We just received our cortisol results and it looks like my son has CFS so add this to high HHV6, CFD and IBS and airborne allergies...immunology makes sense...thank you!! To: mb12valtrex Sent: Thursday, June 21, 2012 11:39 PM Subject: Re: Yeast

Thanks to Christel, we, too, see him. He is very knowledgable, thorough w a great office staff.

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > & nbsp;

> >

> >

> >

> > we LOVE this product, have used it for years. there is

> > a power punch to it since there are so many fighers in there. & nbsp; so even if

> > you are only sensitive to a few you are bound to get the boogers. & nbsp; the

> > other beauty of this is many things you fight the yeast you create bacteria or

> > fight bacteria and you get yeast. & nbsp; this one has a great balance to get

> > BOTH in one swipe

> > & nbsp;

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > From:

> > Sent: Thursday, June 07, 2012 9:27 AM

> > To: mb12valtrex

> >

> > Subject: Yeast

> >

> > & nbsp;

> >

> >

> > I was going to try Kirkmans yeast aid and wanted to know if anyone has

> > tryed it. We use nystatin all ready and probiotics . Any suggestions.

> > Ty

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Thank you Christel and . Is he in Kansas?We just received our cortisol results and it looks like my son has CFS so add this to high HHV6, CFD and IBS and airborne allergies...immunology makes sense...thank you!! To: mb12valtrex Sent: Thursday, June 21, 2012 11:39 PM Subject: Re: Yeast

Thanks to Christel, we, too, see him. He is very knowledgable, thorough w a great office staff.

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > & nbsp;

> >

> >

> >

> > we LOVE this product, have used it for years. there is

> > a power punch to it since there are so many fighers in there. & nbsp; so even if

> > you are only sensitive to a few you are bound to get the boogers. & nbsp; the

> > other beauty of this is many things you fight the yeast you create bacteria or

> > fight bacteria and you get yeast. & nbsp; this one has a great balance to get

> > BOTH in one swipe

> > & nbsp;

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > From:

> > Sent: Thursday, June 07, 2012 9:27 AM

> > To: mb12valtrex

> >

> > Subject: Yeast

> >

> > & nbsp;

> >

> >

> > I was going to try Kirkmans yeast aid and wanted to know if anyone has

> > tryed it. We use nystatin all ready and probiotics . Any suggestions.

> > Ty

> >

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yes he is in kansas and WELL worth the drive, I take my 3 kids to see him yearly and we do the rest via mail and phone. I have seen him now for 9 years plus. I have 2 children with PANDAS< one with lymne, 2 with immnodefiency and cronic yeast and c-dif issues. I have cronic lymne and he has been treating me for years as well finding things YEARS before the mainstream drs. he has an HBOT in his office with the BEST prices I have seen offered by ANYONE! they have scholarship programs for those paying out of pocket that are strapped AND he takes insurance as well!

you can't find a better guy!

From:

Sent: Friday, June 22, 2012 12:08 AM

To: mb12valtrex

Subject: Re: Re: Yeast

Thank you Christel and . Is he in Kansas?

We just received our cortisol results and it looks like my son has CFS so add this to high HHV6, CFD and IBS and airborne allergies...immunology makes sense...thank you!!

To: mb12valtrex Sent: Thursday, June 21, 2012 11:39 PMSubject: Re: Yeast

Thanks to Christel, we, too, see him. He is very knowledgable, thorough w a great office staff. > > > > > > > > > > & nbsp; > > > > > > > > we LOVE this product, have used it for years. there is > > a power punch to it since there are so many fighers in there. & nbsp; so even if > > you are only sensitive to a few you are bound to get the boogers. & nbsp; the > > other beauty of this is many things you fight the yeast you create bacteria or > > fight bacteria and you get yeast. & nbsp; this one has a great balance to get > > BOTH in one swipe> > & nbsp;> > > > > > > > > > From: > > Sent: Thursday, June 07, 2012 9:27 AM> > To: mb12valtrex > > > > Subject: Yeast> > > > & nbsp; > > > > > > I was going to try Kirkmans yeast aid and wanted to know if anyone has > > tryed it. We use nystatin all ready and probiotics . Any suggestions. > > Ty> > > > > > No virus found in this message.> > Checked by > > AVG - www.avg.com> > Version: 2012.0.1913 / > > Virus Database: 2433/5053 - Release Date: 06/06/12> > > > = > > > > > > No virus found in this > > message.> > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com> > Version: 2012.0.1913 / Virus > > Database: 2433/5056 - Release Date: > > 06/08/12> >> > > > No virus found in this message.> Checked by AVG - www.avg.com> Version: 2012.0.1913 / Virus Database: 2433/5072 - Release Date: 06/15/12> > > > > No virus found in this message.> Checked by AVG - www.avg.com> Version: 2012.0.1913 / Virus Database: 2433/5074 - Release Date: 06/16/12>

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yes he is in kansas and WELL worth the drive, I take my 3 kids to see him yearly and we do the rest via mail and phone. I have seen him now for 9 years plus. I have 2 children with PANDAS< one with lymne, 2 with immnodefiency and cronic yeast and c-dif issues. I have cronic lymne and he has been treating me for years as well finding things YEARS before the mainstream drs. he has an HBOT in his office with the BEST prices I have seen offered by ANYONE! they have scholarship programs for those paying out of pocket that are strapped AND he takes insurance as well!

you can't find a better guy!

From:

Sent: Friday, June 22, 2012 12:08 AM

To: mb12valtrex

Subject: Re: Re: Yeast

Thank you Christel and . Is he in Kansas?

We just received our cortisol results and it looks like my son has CFS so add this to high HHV6, CFD and IBS and airborne allergies...immunology makes sense...thank you!!

To: mb12valtrex Sent: Thursday, June 21, 2012 11:39 PMSubject: Re: Yeast

Thanks to Christel, we, too, see him. He is very knowledgable, thorough w a great office staff. > > > > > > > > > > & nbsp; > > > > > > > > we LOVE this product, have used it for years. there is > > a power punch to it since there are so many fighers in there. & nbsp; so even if > > you are only sensitive to a few you are bound to get the boogers. & nbsp; the > > other beauty of this is many things you fight the yeast you create bacteria or > > fight bacteria and you get yeast. & nbsp; this one has a great balance to get > > BOTH in one swipe> > & nbsp;> > > > > > > > > > From: > > Sent: Thursday, June 07, 2012 9:27 AM> > To: mb12valtrex > > > > Subject: Yeast> > > > & nbsp; > > > > > > I was going to try Kirkmans yeast aid and wanted to know if anyone has > > tryed it. We use nystatin all ready and probiotics . Any suggestions. > > Ty> > > > > > No virus found in this message.> > Checked by > > AVG - www.avg.com> > Version: 2012.0.1913 / > > Virus Database: 2433/5053 - Release Date: 06/06/12> > > > = > > > > > > No virus found in this > > message.> > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com> > Version: 2012.0.1913 / Virus > > Database: 2433/5056 - Release Date: > > 06/08/12> >> > > > No virus found in this message.> Checked by AVG - www.avg.com> Version: 2012.0.1913 / Virus Database: 2433/5072 - Release Date: 06/15/12> > > > > No virus found in this message.> Checked by AVG - www.avg.com> Version: 2012.0.1913 / Virus Database: 2433/5074 - Release Date: 06/16/12>

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Is Dr. Baptist in Kansas doing

antivirals,parasites treatments,or IVIG ?

Tammy F.

 

yes he is in kansas and WELL worth

the drive, I take my 3 kids to see him yearly and we do

the rest via mail and phone.  I have seen him now for 9

years plus.  I have 2 children with PANDAS< one with

lymne, 2 with immnodefiency and cronic yeast and c-dif

issues.  I have cronic lymne and he has been treating me

for years as well finding things YEARS before the

mainstream drs.  he has an HBOT in his office with the

BEST prices I have seen offered by ANYONE!  they have

scholarship programs for those paying out of pocket that

are strapped AND he takes insurance as well!

you can't find a better guy!

From:

Sent: Friday, June 22, 2012 12:08 AM

To: mb12valtrex

Subject: Re: Re: Yeast

 

Thank you Christel and .  Is he in

Kansas?

We just received our cortisol results and it

looks like my son has CFS so add this to high HHV6,

CFD and IBS and airborne allergies...immunology

makes sense...thank you!!

From:

mbrookh

To:

mb12valtrex

Sent:

Thursday, June 21, 2012 11:39 PM

Subject:

Re: Yeast

 

Thanks to Christel, we, too, see him. He

is very knowledgable, thorough w a great

office staff.

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > & nbsp;

> >

> >

> >

> > we LOVE this product, have used it

for years. there is

> > a power punch to it since there

are so many fighers in there. & nbsp; so

even if

> > you are only sensitive to a few

you are bound to get the boogers. & nbsp;

the

> > other beauty of this is many

things you fight the yeast you create

bacteria or

> > fight bacteria and you get

yeast. & nbsp; this one has a great

balance to get

> > BOTH in one swipe

> > & nbsp;

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > From:

> > Sent: Thursday, June 07, 2012 9:27

AM

> > To: mb12valtrex

> >

> > Subject: Yeast

> >

> > & nbsp;

> >

> >

> > I was going to try Kirkmans yeast

aid and wanted to know if anyone has

> > tryed it. We use nystatin all

ready and probiotics . Any suggestions.

> > Ty

> >

> >

> > No virus found in this message.

> > Checked by

> > AVG - www.avg.com

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Release Date: 06/06/12

> >

> > =

> >

> >

> > No virus found in this

> > message.

> > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com

> > Version: 2012.0.1913 / Virus

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Date:

> > 06/08/12

> >

>

>

>

> No virus found in this message.

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>

>

>

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> Version: 2012.0.1913 / Virus Database:

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Is Dr. Baptist in Kansas doing

antivirals,parasites treatments,or IVIG ?

Tammy F.

 

yes he is in kansas and WELL worth

the drive, I take my 3 kids to see him yearly and we do

the rest via mail and phone.  I have seen him now for 9

years plus.  I have 2 children with PANDAS< one with

lymne, 2 with immnodefiency and cronic yeast and c-dif

issues.  I have cronic lymne and he has been treating me

for years as well finding things YEARS before the

mainstream drs.  he has an HBOT in his office with the

BEST prices I have seen offered by ANYONE!  they have

scholarship programs for those paying out of pocket that

are strapped AND he takes insurance as well!

you can't find a better guy!

From:

Sent: Friday, June 22, 2012 12:08 AM

To: mb12valtrex

Subject: Re: Re: Yeast

 

Thank you Christel and .  Is he in

Kansas?

We just received our cortisol results and it

looks like my son has CFS so add this to high HHV6,

CFD and IBS and airborne allergies...immunology

makes sense...thank you!!

From:

mbrookh

To:

mb12valtrex

Sent:

Thursday, June 21, 2012 11:39 PM

Subject:

Re: Yeast

 

Thanks to Christel, we, too, see him. He

is very knowledgable, thorough w a great

office staff.

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > & nbsp;

> >

> >

> >

> > we LOVE this product, have used it

for years. there is

> > a power punch to it since there

are so many fighers in there. & nbsp; so

even if

> > you are only sensitive to a few

you are bound to get the boogers. & nbsp;

the

> > other beauty of this is many

things you fight the yeast you create

bacteria or

> > fight bacteria and you get

yeast. & nbsp; this one has a great

balance to get

> > BOTH in one swipe

> > & nbsp;

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > From:

> > Sent: Thursday, June 07, 2012 9:27

AM

> > To: mb12valtrex

> >

> > Subject: Yeast

> >

> > & nbsp;

> >

> >

> > I was going to try Kirkmans yeast

aid and wanted to know if anyone has

> > tryed it. We use nystatin all

ready and probiotics . Any suggestions.

> > Ty

> >

> >

> > No virus found in this message.

> > Checked by

> > AVG - www.avg.com

> > Version: 2012.0.1913 /

> > Virus Database: 2433/5053 -

Release Date: 06/06/12

> >

> > =

> >

> >

> > No virus found in this

> > message.

> > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com

> > Version: 2012.0.1913 / Virus

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Date:

> > 06/08/12

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>

>

>

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> Version: 2012.0.1913 / Virus Database:

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>

>

>

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> Version: 2012.0.1913 / Virus Database:

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I have heard he is a really good LLMD. I would imagine he treats for parasites and antivirals also. But I don't know about ivig. RuthSent from my iPhone

Is Dr. Baptist in Kansas doing

antivirals,parasites treatments,or IVIG ?

Tammy F.

yes he is in kansas and WELL worth

the drive, I take my 3 kids to see him yearly and we do

the rest via mail and phone. I have seen him now for 9

years plus. I have 2 children with PANDAS< one with

lymne, 2 with immnodefiency and cronic yeast and c-dif

issues. I have cronic lymne and he has been treating me

for years as well finding things YEARS before the

mainstream drs. he has an HBOT in his office with the

BEST prices I have seen offered by ANYONE! they have

scholarship programs for those paying out of pocket that

are strapped AND he takes insurance as well!

you can't find a better guy!

From:

Sent: Friday, June 22, 2012 12:08 AM

To: mb12valtrex

Subject: Re: Re: Yeast

Thank you Christel and . Is he in

Kansas?

We just received our cortisol results and it

looks like my son has CFS so add this to high HHV6,

CFD and IBS and airborne allergies...immunology

makes sense...thank you!!

From:

mbrookh

To:

mb12valtrex

Sent:

Thursday, June 21, 2012 11:39 PM

Subject:

Re: Yeast

Thanks to Christel, we, too, see him. He

is very knowledgable, thorough w a great

office staff.

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > & nbsp;

> >

> >

> >

> > we LOVE this product, have used it

for years. there is

> > a power punch to it since there

are so many fighers in there. & nbsp; so

even if

> > you are only sensitive to a few

you are bound to get the boogers. & nbsp;

the

> > other beauty of this is many

things you fight the yeast you create

bacteria or

> > fight bacteria and you get

yeast. & nbsp; this one has a great

balance to get

> > BOTH in one swipe

> > & nbsp;

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > From:

> > Sent: Thursday, June 07, 2012 9:27

AM

> > To: mb12valtrex

> >

> > Subject: Yeast

> >

> > & nbsp;

> >

> >

> > I was going to try Kirkmans yeast

aid and wanted to know if anyone has

> > tryed it. We use nystatin all

ready and probiotics . Any suggestions.

> > Ty

> >

> >

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I have heard he is a really good LLMD. I would imagine he treats for parasites and antivirals also. But I don't know about ivig. RuthSent from my iPhone

Is Dr. Baptist in Kansas doing

antivirals,parasites treatments,or IVIG ?

Tammy F.

yes he is in kansas and WELL worth

the drive, I take my 3 kids to see him yearly and we do

the rest via mail and phone. I have seen him now for 9

years plus. I have 2 children with PANDAS< one with

lymne, 2 with immnodefiency and cronic yeast and c-dif

issues. I have cronic lymne and he has been treating me

for years as well finding things YEARS before the

mainstream drs. he has an HBOT in his office with the

BEST prices I have seen offered by ANYONE! they have

scholarship programs for those paying out of pocket that

are strapped AND he takes insurance as well!

you can't find a better guy!

From:

Sent: Friday, June 22, 2012 12:08 AM

To: mb12valtrex

Subject: Re: Re: Yeast

Thank you Christel and . Is he in

Kansas?

We just received our cortisol results and it

looks like my son has CFS so add this to high HHV6,

CFD and IBS and airborne allergies...immunology

makes sense...thank you!!

From:

mbrookh

To:

mb12valtrex

Sent:

Thursday, June 21, 2012 11:39 PM

Subject:

Re: Yeast

Thanks to Christel, we, too, see him. He

is very knowledgable, thorough w a great

office staff.

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > & nbsp;

> >

> >

> >

> > we LOVE this product, have used it

for years. there is

> > a power punch to it since there

are so many fighers in there. & nbsp; so

even if

> > you are only sensitive to a few

you are bound to get the boogers. & nbsp;

the

> > other beauty of this is many

things you fight the yeast you create

bacteria or

> > fight bacteria and you get

yeast. & nbsp; this one has a great

balance to get

> > BOTH in one swipe

> > & nbsp;

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > From:

> > Sent: Thursday, June 07, 2012 9:27

AM

> > To: mb12valtrex

> >

> > Subject: Yeast

> >

> > & nbsp;

> >

> >

> > I was going to try Kirkmans yeast

aid and wanted to know if anyone has

> > tryed it. We use nystatin all

ready and probiotics . Any suggestions.

> > Ty

> >

> >

> > No virus found in this message.

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Release Date: 06/06/12

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> > No virus found in this

> > message.

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Date:

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>

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>

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Actually Ruth,My son and I have been

seeing Dr. Baptist for 7 years now,and I have yet to see him

do these type of treatments.And he does not treat for Lyme.He is

not an LLMD.I was hoping to talk about this,not because I don't

think he is one of the best men on earth.Its because I don't want

the wrong info to be out there.

Thanks,Tammy F.

 

I have heard he is a really good LLMD. I would imagine

he treats for parasites and antivirals also. But I  don't

know about ivig. 

Ruth

Sent from my iPhone

On Jul 2, 2012, at 12:20 AM, Tammy

wrote:

 

Is Dr. Baptist in

Kansas doing antivirals,parasites treatments,or IVIG

?

Tammy F.

 

yes he is in kansas and

WELL worth the drive, I take my 3 kids to see

him yearly and we do the rest via mail and

phone.  I have seen him now for 9 years plus. 

I have 2 children with PANDAS< one with

lymne, 2 with immnodefiency and cronic yeast

and c-dif issues.  I have cronic lymne and he

has been treating me for years as well finding

things YEARS before the mainstream drs.  he

has an HBOT in his office with the BEST prices

I have seen offered by ANYONE!  they have

scholarship programs for those paying out of

pocket that are strapped AND he takes

insurance as well!

you can't find a better

guy!

From:

Sent: Friday, June 22, 2012 12:08

AM

To: mb12valtrex

Subject: Re: Re:

Yeast

 

Thank you Christel and .  Is he

in Kansas?

We just received our cortisol

results and it looks like my son has CFS

so add this to high HHV6, CFD and IBS and

airborne allergies...immunology makes

sense...thank you!!

From:

mbrookh

To:

mb12valtrex

Sent:

Thursday, June 21, 2012 11:39 PM

Subject:

Re: Yeast

 

Thanks to Christel, we, too,

see him. He is very knowledgable,

thorough w a great office staff.

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > & nbsp;

> >

> >

> >

> > we LOVE this product,

have used it for years. there is

> > a power punch to it

since there are so many fighers in

there. & nbsp; so even if

> > you are only sensitive

to a few you are bound to get the

boogers. & nbsp; the

> > other beauty of this is

many things you fight the yeast

you create bacteria or

> > fight bacteria and you

get yeast. & nbsp; this one has

a great balance to get

> > BOTH in one swipe

> > & nbsp;

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > From:

> > Sent: Thursday, June 07,

2012 9:27 AM

> > To: mb12valtrex

> >

> > Subject:

Yeast

> >

> > & nbsp;

> >

> >

> > I was going to try

Kirkmans yeast aid and wanted to

know if anyone has

> > tryed it. We use

nystatin all ready and probiotics

.. Any suggestions.

> > Ty

> >

> >

> > No virus found in this

message.

> > Checked by

> > AVG - www.avg.com

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> > Virus Database:

2433/5053 - Release Date: 06/06/12

> >

> > =

> >

> >

> > No virus found in this

> > message.

> > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com

> > Version: 2012.0.1913 /

Virus

> > Database: 2433/5056 -

Release Date:

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>

>

>

> No virus found in this

message.

> Checked by AVG - www.avg.com

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>

>

>

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Actually Ruth,My son and I have been

seeing Dr. Baptist for 7 years now,and I have yet to see him

do these type of treatments.And he does not treat for Lyme.He is

not an LLMD.I was hoping to talk about this,not because I don't

think he is one of the best men on earth.Its because I don't want

the wrong info to be out there.

Thanks,Tammy F.

 

I have heard he is a really good LLMD. I would imagine

he treats for parasites and antivirals also. But I  don't

know about ivig. 

Ruth

Sent from my iPhone

On Jul 2, 2012, at 12:20 AM, Tammy

wrote:

 

Is Dr. Baptist in

Kansas doing antivirals,parasites treatments,or IVIG

?

Tammy F.

 

yes he is in kansas and

WELL worth the drive, I take my 3 kids to see

him yearly and we do the rest via mail and

phone.  I have seen him now for 9 years plus. 

I have 2 children with PANDAS< one with

lymne, 2 with immnodefiency and cronic yeast

and c-dif issues.  I have cronic lymne and he

has been treating me for years as well finding

things YEARS before the mainstream drs.  he

has an HBOT in his office with the BEST prices

I have seen offered by ANYONE!  they have

scholarship programs for those paying out of

pocket that are strapped AND he takes

insurance as well!

you can't find a better

guy!

From:

Sent: Friday, June 22, 2012 12:08

AM

To: mb12valtrex

Subject: Re: Re:

Yeast

 

Thank you Christel and .  Is he

in Kansas?

We just received our cortisol

results and it looks like my son has CFS

so add this to high HHV6, CFD and IBS and

airborne allergies...immunology makes

sense...thank you!!

From:

mbrookh

To:

mb12valtrex

Sent:

Thursday, June 21, 2012 11:39 PM

Subject:

Re: Yeast

 

Thanks to Christel, we, too,

see him. He is very knowledgable,

thorough w a great office staff.

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > & nbsp;

> >

> >

> >

> > we LOVE this product,

have used it for years. there is

> > a power punch to it

since there are so many fighers in

there. & nbsp; so even if

> > you are only sensitive

to a few you are bound to get the

boogers. & nbsp; the

> > other beauty of this is

many things you fight the yeast

you create bacteria or

> > fight bacteria and you

get yeast. & nbsp; this one has

a great balance to get

> > BOTH in one swipe

> > & nbsp;

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > From:

> > Sent: Thursday, June 07,

2012 9:27 AM

> > To: mb12valtrex

> >

> > Subject:

Yeast

> >

> > & nbsp;

> >

> >

> > I was going to try

Kirkmans yeast aid and wanted to

know if anyone has

> > tryed it. We use

nystatin all ready and probiotics

.. Any suggestions.

> > Ty

> >

> >

> > No virus found in this

message.

> > Checked by

> > AVG - www.avg.com

> > Version: 2012.0.1913 /

> > Virus Database:

2433/5053 - Release Date: 06/06/12

> >

> > =

> >

> >

> > No virus found in this

> > message.

> > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com

> > Version: 2012.0.1913 /

Virus

> > Database: 2433/5056 -

Release Date:

> > 06/08/12

> >

>

>

>

> No virus found in this

message.

> Checked by AVG - www.avg.com

> Version: 2012.0.1913 / Virus

Database: 2433/5072 - Release

Date: 06/15/12

>

>

>

>

> No virus found in this

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> Checked by AVG - www.avg.com

> Version: 2012.0.1913 / Virus

Database: 2433/5074 - Release

Date: 06/16/12

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Oh dear,I would hate for others to make

arrangements to go out there for those particulars and be very

disappointed.Please report back if there are 2 Dr.s by the same

name.This Dr. goes by the office name of "Allergy Link".

Thanks Ruth

 

Hmm.  Thanks for letting me know that. WEird. I have a

good friend whose relative has two family members with

lyme and they recommended him to me saying he was one of

the best in the country, cutting edge, etc. for lyme.

 Sorry.  I don't have personal experience with him, but

was going on their recommendation.

Ruth

Sent from my iPad

On Jul 2, 2012, at 7:02 AM, Tammy

wrote:

 

Actually Ruth,My son and

I have been seeing Dr. Baptist for 7 years

now,and I have yet to see him do these type of

treatments.And he does not treat for Lyme.He is not

an LLMD.I was hoping to talk about this,not because

I don't think he is one of the best men on earth.Its

because I don't want the wrong info to be out there.

Thanks,Tammy F.

 

I have heard he is a really good LLMD. I

would imagine he treats for parasites and

antivirals also. But I  don't know about ivig. 

Ruth

Sent from my iPhone

On Jul 2, 2012, at 12:20 AM, Tammy

wrote:

 

Is Dr.

Baptist in Kansas doing

antivirals,parasites treatments,or IVIG ?

Tammy F.

 

yes he is in

kansas and WELL worth the drive, I

take my 3 kids to see him yearly and

we do the rest via mail and phone. 

I have seen him now for 9 years

plus.  I have 2 children with

PANDAS< one with lymne, 2 with

immnodefiency and cronic yeast and

c-dif issues.  I have cronic lymne

and he has been treating me for

years as well finding things YEARS

before the mainstream drs.  he has

an HBOT in his office with the BEST

prices I have seen offered by

ANYONE!  they have scholarship

programs for those paying out of

pocket that are strapped AND he

takes insurance as well!

you can't find

a better guy!

From:

Sent: Friday, June 22,

2012 12:08 AM

To: mb12valtrex

Subject: Re:

Re: Yeast

 

Thank you Christel and

.  Is he in Kansas?

We just received our

cortisol results and it looks

like my son has CFS so add this

to high HHV6, CFD and IBS and

airborne allergies...immunology

makes sense...thank you!!

From:

mbrookh

To: mb12valtrex

Sent:

Thursday, June 21, 2012

11:39 PM

Subject:

Re: Yeast

 

Thanks to Christel,

we, too, see him. He is

very knowledgable,

thorough w a great

office staff.

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > & nbsp;

> >

> >

> >

> > we LOVE this

product, have used it

for years. there is

> > a power punch

to it since there are so

many fighers in

there. & nbsp; so even

if

> > you are only

sensitive to a few you

are bound to get the

boogers. & nbsp; the

> > other beauty

of this is many things

you fight the yeast you

create bacteria or

> > fight bacteria

and you get

yeast. & nbsp; this

one has a great balance

to get

> > BOTH in one

swipe

> > & nbsp;

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > From:

> > Sent:

Thursday, June 07, 2012

9:27 AM

> > To: mb12valtrex

> >

> > Subject:

Yeast

> >

> > & nbsp;

> >

> >

> > I was going to

try Kirkmans yeast aid

and wanted to know if

anyone has

> > tryed it. We

use nystatin all ready

and probiotics . Any

suggestions.

> > Ty

> >

> >

> > No virus found

in this message.

> > Checked by

> > AVG - www.avg.com

> > Version:

2012.0.1913 /

> > Virus

Database: 2433/5053 -

Release Date: 06/06/12

> >

> > =

> >

> >

> > No virus found

in this

> > message.

> > Checked by AVG

- www.avg.com

> > Version:

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Date:

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>

>

>

> No virus found in

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Oh dear,I would hate for others to make

arrangements to go out there for those particulars and be very

disappointed.Please report back if there are 2 Dr.s by the same

name.This Dr. goes by the office name of "Allergy Link".

Thanks Ruth

 

Hmm.  Thanks for letting me know that. WEird. I have a

good friend whose relative has two family members with

lyme and they recommended him to me saying he was one of

the best in the country, cutting edge, etc. for lyme.

 Sorry.  I don't have personal experience with him, but

was going on their recommendation.

Ruth

Sent from my iPad

On Jul 2, 2012, at 7:02 AM, Tammy

wrote:

 

Actually Ruth,My son and

I have been seeing Dr. Baptist for 7 years

now,and I have yet to see him do these type of

treatments.And he does not treat for Lyme.He is not

an LLMD.I was hoping to talk about this,not because

I don't think he is one of the best men on earth.Its

because I don't want the wrong info to be out there.

Thanks,Tammy F.

 

I have heard he is a really good LLMD. I

would imagine he treats for parasites and

antivirals also. But I  don't know about ivig. 

Ruth

Sent from my iPhone

On Jul 2, 2012, at 12:20 AM, Tammy

wrote:

 

Is Dr.

Baptist in Kansas doing

antivirals,parasites treatments,or IVIG ?

Tammy F.

 

yes he is in

kansas and WELL worth the drive, I

take my 3 kids to see him yearly and

we do the rest via mail and phone. 

I have seen him now for 9 years

plus.  I have 2 children with

PANDAS< one with lymne, 2 with

immnodefiency and cronic yeast and

c-dif issues.  I have cronic lymne

and he has been treating me for

years as well finding things YEARS

before the mainstream drs.  he has

an HBOT in his office with the BEST

prices I have seen offered by

ANYONE!  they have scholarship

programs for those paying out of

pocket that are strapped AND he

takes insurance as well!

you can't find

a better guy!

From:

Sent: Friday, June 22,

2012 12:08 AM

To: mb12valtrex

Subject: Re:

Re: Yeast

 

Thank you Christel and

.  Is he in Kansas?

We just received our

cortisol results and it looks

like my son has CFS so add this

to high HHV6, CFD and IBS and

airborne allergies...immunology

makes sense...thank you!!

From:

mbrookh

To: mb12valtrex

Sent:

Thursday, June 21, 2012

11:39 PM

Subject:

Re: Yeast

 

Thanks to Christel,

we, too, see him. He is

very knowledgable,

thorough w a great

office staff.

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > & nbsp;

> >

> >

> >

> > we LOVE this

product, have used it

for years. there is

> > a power punch

to it since there are so

many fighers in

there. & nbsp; so even

if

> > you are only

sensitive to a few you

are bound to get the

boogers. & nbsp; the

> > other beauty

of this is many things

you fight the yeast you

create bacteria or

> > fight bacteria

and you get

yeast. & nbsp; this

one has a great balance

to get

> > BOTH in one

swipe

> > & nbsp;

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > From:

> > Sent:

Thursday, June 07, 2012

9:27 AM

> > To: mb12valtrex

> >

> > Subject:

Yeast

> >

> > & nbsp;

> >

> >

> > I was going to

try Kirkmans yeast aid

and wanted to know if

anyone has

> > tryed it. We

use nystatin all ready

and probiotics . Any

suggestions.

> > Ty

> >

> >

> > No virus found

in this message.

> > Checked by

> > AVG - www.avg.com

> > Version:

2012.0.1913 /

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Database: 2433/5053 -

Release Date: 06/06/12

> >

> > =

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in this

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Date:

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Release Date: 06/16/12

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Hmm. Thanks for letting me know that. WEird. I have a good friend whose relative has two family members with lyme and they recommended him to me saying he was one of the best in the country, cutting edge, etc. for lyme. Sorry. I don't have personal experience with him, but was going on their recommendation.RuthSent from my iPad

Actually Ruth,My son and I have been

seeing Dr. Baptist for 7 years now,and I have yet to see him

do these type of treatments.And he does not treat for Lyme.He is

not an LLMD.I was hoping to talk about this,not because I don't

think he is one of the best men on earth.Its because I don't want

the wrong info to be out there.

Thanks,Tammy F.

I have heard he is a really good LLMD. I would imagine

he treats for parasites and antivirals also. But I don't

know about ivig.

Ruth

Sent from my iPhone

On Jul 2, 2012, at 12:20 AM, Tammy

wrote:

Is Dr. Baptist in

Kansas doing antivirals,parasites treatments,or IVIG

?

Tammy F.

yes he is in kansas and

WELL worth the drive, I take my 3 kids to see

him yearly and we do the rest via mail and

phone. I have seen him now for 9 years plus.

I have 2 children with PANDAS< one with

lymne, 2 with immnodefiency and cronic yeast

and c-dif issues. I have cronic lymne and he

has been treating me for years as well finding

things YEARS before the mainstream drs. he

has an HBOT in his office with the BEST prices

I have seen offered by ANYONE! they have

scholarship programs for those paying out of

pocket that are strapped AND he takes

insurance as well!

you can't find a better

guy!

From:

Sent: Friday, June 22, 2012 12:08

AM

To: mb12valtrex

Subject: Re: Re:

Yeast

Thank you Christel and . Is he

in Kansas?

We just received our cortisol

results and it looks like my son has CFS

so add this to high HHV6, CFD and IBS and

airborne allergies...immunology makes

sense...thank you!!

From:

mbrookh

To:

mb12valtrex

Sent:

Thursday, June 21, 2012 11:39 PM

Subject:

Re: Yeast

Thanks to Christel, we, too,

see him. He is very knowledgable,

thorough w a great office staff.

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > & nbsp;

> >

> >

> >

> > we LOVE this product,

have used it for years. there is

> > a power punch to it

since there are so many fighers in

there. & nbsp; so even if

> > you are only sensitive

to a few you are bound to get the

boogers. & nbsp; the

> > other beauty of this is

many things you fight the yeast

you create bacteria or

> > fight bacteria and you

get yeast. & nbsp; this one has

a great balance to get

> > BOTH in one swipe

> > & nbsp;

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > From:

> > Sent: Thursday, June 07,

2012 9:27 AM

> > To: mb12valtrex

> >

> > Subject:

Yeast

> >

> > & nbsp;

> >

> >

> > I was going to try

Kirkmans yeast aid and wanted to

know if anyone has

> > tryed it. We use

nystatin all ready and probiotics

.. Any suggestions.

> > Ty

> >

> >

> > No virus found in this

message.

> > Checked by

> > AVG - www.avg.com

> > Version: 2012.0.1913 /

> > Virus Database:

2433/5053 - Release Date: 06/06/12

> >

> > =

> >

> >

> > No virus found in this

> > message.

> > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com

> > Version: 2012.0.1913 /

Virus

> > Database: 2433/5056 -

Release Date:

> > 06/08/12

> >

>

>

>

> No virus found in this

message.

> Checked by AVG - www.avg.com

> Version: 2012.0.1913 / Virus

Database: 2433/5072 - Release

Date: 06/15/12

>

>

>

>

> No virus found in this

message.

> Checked by AVG - www.avg.com

> Version: 2012.0.1913 / Virus

Database: 2433/5074 - Release

Date: 06/16/12

>

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in this message.

Checked by AVG - www.avg.com

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- Release Date: 06/21/12

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