amalgam removal

January 11, 2006

> <tt>

> hi all im sure its been asked before and ive read so many

conflicting

> results on this question. after removal when and how are you to

> chelate? i am going this procedure(removal) myself and already

have

> some autoimmune systems in question so some are saying to just let

the

> body naturally chelate others are saying do some things to help it

> along. what would you or have you all done?????? i just dont want

to

> feel bad or sick with a busy and energetic career plus 2 ASD boys

> too.some have even said dont remove but i worry about future

problems

> like lupus or ms and especially alzheimers as it runs

predominately in

> my family. thanks for input...

>

> </tt>

>

>

>

>

> <tt>

> =======================================================

>

May 28, 2006

-Zyan,

Sorry to butt in on this post...couldn't help myself. I just had 11

teeth done, about 14 amalgams removed this past Tuesday. So far I do

not regret a thing. My list of symptoms was very long. I will list

what I can remember:

digestive problems, acne resistant to treatment, hair loss, fatigue,

mood swings, depression, shortness of breath on exertion, dry mouth,

bleeding gums, cold hands and feet, blurry/fuzzy vision, ringing in

the ears, blue toe nails, burning lungs, heart palpitations, foul

taste in mouth, bleeding gums, trouble sleeping, paranoid thoughts,

panic, impending sense of doom feelings, dry itchy skin, abnormal

finger/toe nail growth (longitudal ridges, soft, break easy), pms,

terrible menstrual cramps, bloating after eating, ...there is more I

can't recall.

In only the few days I have had them out this is what I have

noticed: The first day, the nasty taste in my mouth was gone. My

mouth was no longer dry. My vision was a bit clearer (colors

sharper, distance clearer), No burning lungs, a calmer feeling. That

night I slept awesome.

The second day: I did feel a bit weak and tired. Might have been

from the sedative the day before. I took 1000mg of vitamin C four

times a day. This stopped the weak yucky feeling. Still not bad

taste, I woke up without the usual flem lump in my throat and my

teeth were not coated with yuck. (I refer to this as dry mouth). I

no longer need to carry water with me everywhere. Later that evening

my feet began burning. About 8 hours later this stopped. And my feet

were warm on their own for the first time in years. The blue toe

nails are gone too. Same with my cold hands. Here I am 5 days after

removal and still warm. I have been sweating off and on since

removal. Part of natural detox but not severe or bothersome. Today I

had energy like I don't remember having. I worked in the garden for

hours without getting tired, or out of breath. Very unusual for me

before. I am not overweight and eat healthy but always got winded

and tired easy. Also, for the first time in years...my gums did not

bleed when I flossed!! I am actuall amazed at how quick some of

these things happend. I know I have a ways to go with detox but the

improvments I have already had are like miracles for me. Oh..also a

pre removal thing...my thyroid has slowly been going down in

function for the past 10 years. Ever so slightly. My regular doc did

not want to treat this. The Doc of Integrative Medicine that removed

my fillings is treating it with bovine hormone which is natural and

only requires a year to " kick start " my thyroid, since mercury

blocks thyroid function.

-- In , " zyansansom1974 " <zyan@...>

wrote:

>

> --

>

> Hi Nina,

> Just wondered what your symptoms were pre and post amalgam

removal,

> how many fillings did you have? do you feel it has made a great

> difference to you. I am considering having mine removed have an

appt

> on thursday to check the level of exposure and cost!

> Thanks zyan

> - In , " zyansansom1974 " <zyan@>

> wrote:

> >

> > Hi nina,

> >

> > In my experience citracidal or gratefruit seed extract and

garlic

> is

> > effective in removing parasites.

> >

> > >

> > > Does anyone know of an online group like this one that knows a

lot

> > > about treating parasites?

> > >

> > > I had my amalgams out last year and am busy (!) chelating, but

was

> > > recently diagnosed with blastocystis hominis. There is

> disagreement

> > > in the medical community as to whether b. hominis is

pathogenic or

> > > not. But after years of chronic fatigue and

gastroenterological

> > > issues--I want to get rid of it.

> > >

> > > Most strains appear to be resistant to metronidazole/flagyl and

> > > tinidazole (which Andy has recommended in general as a better

> > > alternative than metronidazole). I know my strain is

resistant as

> > > I've taken metronidazole multiple times for giardia.

> > >

> > > Advice from anyone who has dealt with this successfully would

be

> > most

> > > appreciated.

> > >

> > > Regards,

> > > Nina

> > >

> >

>

May 29, 2006

> > > >

> > > > Does anyone know of an online group like this one that knows

a

> lot

> > > > about treating parasites?

> > > >

> > > > I had my amalgams out last year and am busy (!) chelating,

but

> was

> > > > recently diagnosed with blastocystis hominis. There is

> > disagreement

> > > > in the medical community as to whether b. hominis is

> pathogenic or

> > > > not. But after years of chronic fatigue and

> gastroenterological

> > > > issues--I want to get rid of it.

> > > >

> > > > Most strains appear to be resistant to metronidazole/flagyl

and

> > > > tinidazole (which Andy has recommended in general as a better

> > > > alternative than metronidazole). I know my strain is

> resistant as

> > > > I've taken metronidazole multiple times for giardia.

> > > >

> > > > Advice from anyone who has dealt with this successfully would

> be

> > > most

> > > > appreciated.

> > > >

> > > > Regards,

> > > > Nina

> > > >

> > >

> >

>

May 29, 2006

Try high-dose Vitamin C. Do you have amalgams in or out? Read Andy's book

and chelate once they are all out.

Barb

[ ] Re: amalgam removal

>

>> > > >

>> > > > Does anyone know of an online group like this one that knows

> a

>> lot

>> > > > about treating parasites?

>> > > >

>> > > > I had my amalgams out last year and am busy (!) chelating,

> but

>> was

>> > > > recently diagnosed with blastocystis hominis. There is

>> > disagreement

>> > > > in the medical community as to whether b. hominis is

>> pathogenic or

>> > > > not. But after years of chronic fatigue and

>> gastroenterological

>> > > > issues--I want to get rid of it.

>> > > >

>> > > > Most strains appear to be resistant to metronidazole/flagyl

> and

>> > > > tinidazole (which Andy has recommended in general as a better

>> > > > alternative than metronidazole). I know my strain is

>> resistant as

>> > > > I've taken metronidazole multiple times for giardia.

>> > > >

>> > > > Advice from anyone who has dealt with this successfully would

>> be

>> > > most

>> > > > appreciated.

>> > > >

>> > > > Regards,

>> > > > Nina

>> > > >

>> > >

>> >

>>

>

> =======================================================

>

May 29, 2006

With variations here and there I could have written this list of symptoms which

I'm also dealing with. It wasn't until my daughter was diagnosed with ASD that

I began to understand how ill I was. It's going to cost close to $6,000 to have

my almagams removed. My endocrinologist tor has found a thyroid nodule

which is close to an inch. From hair loss to cold extremities and much, more,

she doctor says that my symptoms are caused by depression. She's offered

antidepressants, but that's it. Needless to say, I won't be seeing her again.

If I

can get half of my issues resolved it will be worth every cent!

>

> -Zyan,

> Sorry to butt in on this post...couldn't help myself. I just had 11

> teeth done, about 14 amalgams removed this past Tuesday. So far I do

> not regret a thing. My list of symptoms was very long. I will list

> what I can remember:

> digestive problems, acne resistant to treatment, hair loss, fatigue,

> mood swings, depression, shortness of breath on exertion, dry mouth,

> bleeding gums, cold hands and feet, blurry/fuzzy vision, ringing in

> the ears, blue toe nails, burning lungs, heart palpitations, foul

> taste in mouth, bleeding gums, trouble sleeping, paranoid thoughts,

> panic, impending sense of doom feelings, dry itchy skin, abnormal

> finger/toe nail growth (longitudal ridges, soft, break easy), pms,

> terrible menstrual cramps, bloating after eating, ...there is more I

> can't recall.

> In only the few days I have had them out this is what I have

> noticed: The first day, the nasty taste in my mouth was gone. My

> mouth was no longer dry. My vision was a bit clearer (colors

> sharper, distance clearer), No burning lungs, a calmer feeling. That

> night I slept awesome.

> The second day: I did feel a bit weak and tired. Might have been

> from the sedative the day before. I took 1000mg of vitamin C four

> times a day. This stopped the weak yucky feeling. Still not bad

> taste, I woke up without the usual flem lump in my throat and my

> teeth were not coated with yuck. (I refer to this as dry mouth). I

> no longer need to carry water with me everywhere. Later that evening

> my feet began burning. About 8 hours later this stopped. And my feet

> were warm on their own for the first time in years. The blue toe

> nails are gone too. Same with my cold hands. Here I am 5 days after

> removal and still warm. I have been sweating off and on since

> removal. Part of natural detox but not severe or bothersome. Today I

> had energy like I don't remember having. I worked in the garden for

> hours without getting tired, or out of breath. Very unusual for me

> before. I am not overweight and eat healthy but always got winded

> and tired easy. Also, for the first time in years...my gums did not

> bleed when I flossed!! I am actuall amazed at how quick some of

> these things happend. I know I have a ways to go with detox but the

> improvments I have already had are like miracles for me. Oh..also a

> pre removal thing...my thyroid has slowly been going down in

> function for the past 10 years. Ever so slightly. My regular doc did

> not want to treat this. The Doc of Integrative Medicine that removed

> my fillings is treating it with bovine hormone which is natural and

> only requires a year to " kick start " my thyroid, since mercury

> blocks thyroid function.

May 30, 2006

My endocrinologist tor has found a thyroid nodule

> which is close to an inch. From hair loss to cold extremities and

much, more,

> she doctor says that my symptoms are caused by depression. She's

offered

> antidepressants, but that's it.

I swear, endocrinologists SUCK. When I was begging mine for Armour and

telling him that the synthroid was Not Working and giving him a list

of symptoms -- hair loss, zero sex drive, extreme lethargy, deep brain

fog -- he told me I was mentally ill and needed to see a different

doctor to figure out what my real problem was.

Do whatever you have to to get some Armour thyroid. It makes a *huge

difference.

Nell

May 30, 2006

> >> > > >

> >> > > > Does anyone know of an online group like this one that

knows

> > a

> >> lot

> >> > > > about treating parasites?

> >> > > >

> >> > > > I had my amalgams out last year and am busy (!) chelating,

> > but

> >> was

> >> > > > recently diagnosed with blastocystis hominis. There is

> >> > disagreement

> >> > > > in the medical community as to whether b. hominis is

> >> pathogenic or

> >> > > > not. But after years of chronic fatigue and

> >> gastroenterological

> >> > > > issues--I want to get rid of it.

> >> > > >

> >> > > > Most strains appear to be resistant to metronidazole/flagyl

> > and

> >> > > > tinidazole (which Andy has recommended in general as a

better

> >> > > > alternative than metronidazole). I know my strain is

> >> resistant as

> >> > > > I've taken metronidazole multiple times for giardia.

> >> > > >

> >> > > > Advice from anyone who has dealt with this successfully

would

> >> be

> >> > > most

> >> > > > appreciated.

> >> > > >

> >> > > > Regards,

> >> > > > Nina

> >> > > >

> >> > >

> >> >

> >>

> >

> > =======================================================

> >

May 30, 2006

Some say that vitamin C interferes with the effectiveness of the anesthesia

(novacaine/lidocaine) so you may want to skip it the days you have dental work

done.

S S

>awaiting removal taking high dose vit c.

thanks zyan

> Try high-dose Vitamin C. Do you have amalgams in or out? Read

Andy's book

> and chelate once they are all out.

>

> Barb

_______________________________________________

Join Excite! - http://www.excite.com

The most personalized portal on the Web!

May 31, 2006

Bill,

I'm in the process of getting my five removed. I'm using an IOAMT

dentist (I think that's the acronym) -- we've been doing them in

sections of the mouth. About a section every six weeks. I have one

in each section and two in another. I don't know about getting all at

once, seems a lot, unless you only have one or two. Don't know

anything about the Huggins protocol, but you defintely need someone

experienced with it.

Diane

>

> Hi,

>

> I am wondering if anyone has experience with amalgam removal and a

> safe number of teeth to correct per visit. I am considering amalgam

> removal with a dentist specializing in safe removal who subscribes to

> Dr. Huggins protocol which promotes the complete (all surfaces)

> restoration of amalgams in a single visit. I am unsure or more

> clearly apprehensive and would like if anyone has experience and

could

> comment.

>

> Thanks,

>

> Bill

>

May 31, 2006

Bill,

I'm in the process of getting my five removed. I'm using an IOAMT

dentist (I think that's the acronym) -- we've been doing them in

sections of the mouth. About a section every six weeks. I have one

in each section and two in another. I don't know about getting all at

once, seems a lot, unless you only have one or two. Don't know

anything about the Huggins protocol, but you defintely need someone

experienced with it.

Diane

>

> Hi,

>

> I am wondering if anyone has experience with amalgam removal and a

> safe number of teeth to correct per visit. I am considering amalgam

> removal with a dentist specializing in safe removal who subscribes to

> Dr. Huggins protocol which promotes the complete (all surfaces)

> restoration of amalgams in a single visit. I am unsure or more

> clearly apprehensive and would like if anyone has experience and

could

> comment.

>

> Thanks,

>

> Bill

>

May 31, 2006

Bill,

I am not sure how many fillings you have. I just had all mine removed

last week in one visit by a Huggins trained doctor under that same

protocol. I do not regret it at all, nor the cost. I did have

conscious iv sedation so I was calm but awake for the whole time. Many

people debate whether you should remove them all or go in bits. I

researched it and chose all at once for myself. I had 11 teeth some

with multiple surfaces...so for me A LOT of mercury. I had shortness

or breath and burning lungs, fatigue, and physical activity tired me

ou in minutes and I was out of breath. I had the whole list of

symptoms. I have seen some go away already without any formal

chelation. I was very apprehensive before I did this. I comtemplated

it for almost a year. Kept researching etc. But all roads led back to

this mercury in my mouth. So I went for the inital exam and testing.

(What the heck right, maybe they would find so reason for all my

symptoms). When I went and met the doctor...I knew it was right. She

knew so much and really understood what this was doing to me. I think

it is the best thing I have ever done for myself!

I traveled to the next state to have it done. Bear in mind your teeth

will ache after the novacaine wears off but by bedtime that night my

teeth were fine. (another words, any discomfort I had was no different

than when they put the original fillings in). It was actually a good

ting I did do this because all of the fillings were going on 15+ years

old. She said that she could not beleive how much decay was under the

old fillings. So having them all changed may have save my teeth for

literally rotting out of my head. So just because a tooth has a

filling doesn't mean it is set forever. Mercury filling do leak in

bacteria around them.

The same day I had them out, the " yuck " taste in my mouth was gone. No

more dry mouth. No shortness or breath, no burning lungs, and my eyes

were clearer (brighter colors, clearer distance vision). Each day

seems to bring a new change or two. You still have to detox the

mercury after removal but at least you have that option once they are

out.

Your huggins dentist should remove them by quadrant according to the

electrical current. But it can be done all at once. As long as you

have knowledge of the Huggins protocol you will know that they are

doing things right. Many times poeple only have one quadrant done at

atime in order to get time to pay for the next round. In effect this

could end up costing more as you have to pay for more anesthetics each

time. But I was not " sick or no functional as I thought I would be " . I

only battled a bit of weak and queasy the second day. This went away

with vitamin C. Hope this helps..let me know if there are any other

questions about it that I might be able to shed some insight into.

-- In , " watchbillw " <watchbill@...>

wrote:

>

> Hi,

>

> I am wondering if anyone has experience with amalgam removal and a

> safe number of teeth to correct per visit. I am considering amalgam

> removal with a dentist specializing in safe removal who subscribes to

> Dr. Huggins protocol which promotes the complete (all surfaces)

> restoration of amalgams in a single visit. I am unsure or more

> clearly apprehensive and would like if anyone has experience and

could

> comment.

>

> Thanks,

>

> Bill

>

May 31, 2006

I had mine done Huggins protocol many (about 15) years ago, quadrant by quadrant

in 3 subsequent days. One quadrant on Tuesday, one on Wednesday, and one each

morning and afternoon on Thursday. I would have spaced the visits out more but

had gone out of state to have the work done because I couldn't find anyone in my

state at the time who would do it right. I had 17 amalgams replaced. The

wonderful dentist called all his regular patients scheduled for those days and

rescheduled them so he could do my work.

S S

Hi,

I am wondering if anyone has experience with amalgam removal and a

safe number of teeth to correct per visit. I am considering amalgam

removal with a dentist specializing in safe removal who subscribes to

Dr. Huggins protocol which promotes the complete (all surfaces)

restoration of amalgams in a single visit. I am unsure or more

clearly apprehensive and would like if anyone has experience and could

comment.

Thanks,

Bill

_______________________________________________

Join Excite! - http://www.excite.com

The most personalized portal on the Web!

May 31, 2006

Bill -

My 7-year-old grandson had his amalgams removed by the Dr. Huggins protocol

last July. The work was done all at one time while he was sedated. He had

four amalgams removed and replaced and three teeth (those with nickel crowns)

pulled. I found it interesting that the teeth were treated in a very particular

order, something to do with electrical charges. It seems this was an

important part of the procedure. My grandson had no recuperation problems and

healed

very quickly. Older patients at the dentist seemed to recover pretty quickly

also. We saw them because we all made three visits to the dentist--to have a

pre-procedure visit, the procedure itself and a post-procedure visit.

Nana

May 31, 2006

Hey Jan,

I will meet my dentist tomorrow for the initial consult and she is a

Huggins elite dentist so i feel comfortable with that just the latter

part you mentioned with discomfort after drilling..... I have always

had pretty sensitive teeth so that's my biggest stumbling block. I

have to get this done i missing my life.

Thanks,

Bill

> >

> > Hi,

> >

> > I am wondering if anyone has experience with amalgam removal and a

> > safe number of teeth to correct per visit. I am considering amalgam

> > removal with a dentist specializing in safe removal who subscribes to

> > Dr. Huggins protocol which promotes the complete (all surfaces)

> > restoration of amalgams in a single visit. I am unsure or more

> > clearly apprehensive and would like if anyone has experience and

> could

> > comment.

> >

> > Thanks,

> >

> > Bill

> >

>

May 31, 2006

I didn't really have pain just the sensations of pressure repeated themselves as

the anesthesia was wearing off. I was also incredibly hungry. (I'm a wimp

when it comes to pain).

S S

Hey Jan,

I will meet my dentist tomorrow for the initial consult and she is a

Huggins elite dentist so i feel comfortable with that just the latter

part you mentioned with discomfort after drilling..... I have always

had pretty sensitive teeth so that's my biggest stumbling block. I

have to get this done i missing my life.

Thanks,

Bill

_______________________________________________

Join Excite! - http://www.excite.com

The most personalized portal on the Web!

May 31, 2006

I too have always had sensitive teeth. No lie they might be that way

for a few days or a week afterwards. I did not have to eat liquids

or anything, but not steak either. I did not need any pain

medication post removal. Not even tylenol. It really was not bad

compared to what I thought it would be. I dreamt up a nightmare

before I got there, but it was really easy.

A she huh? Wonder if it's the same one I went to ..Also a huggins

elite. Any chance your going to PA?

> > >

> > > Hi,

> > >

> > > I am wondering if anyone has experience with amalgam removal

and a

> > > safe number of teeth to correct per visit. I am considering

amalgam

> > > removal with a dentist specializing in safe removal who

subscribes to

> > > Dr. Huggins protocol which promotes the complete (all surfaces)

> > > restoration of amalgams in a single visit. I am unsure or more

> > > clearly apprehensive and would like if anyone has experience

and

> > could

> > > comment.

> > >

> > > Thanks,

> > >

> > > Bill

> > >

> >

>

June 20, 2006

>

> Do you always have to chelate after amalgam removal? Or do some do

> okay without chelation? Also, how soon does a body metal level

> reflect in hair test?

>

> thanks so much,

>

> Harumi

>

Harumi,

I suppose some people who are not particularly toxic and who excrete

well on their own wouldn't need to chelate. Andy talks about people

coming through on their own in Amalgam Illness, but the process

isn't quick. However, if chelation is safe and affordable, why not

chelate? Is there a particular reason?

A hair test taken today is reflecting three months ago. Is that

what you meant?

Anita

June 21, 2006

Hi Anita,

Thanks for your reply. I asked because I'm 40, and I still can't give

up the idea of having a baby girl. I have 2 boys- 7 year old with

PDD, 4 & 1/2 with dev. delays(probaby ADHD). I don't know how many

amalgam filings I have - at least 5 - and 3 of those were placed right

before I got pregnant with my first son. If I chelate, it may take a

couple to a few years, right? Then I think I will miss my last chance

of maybe able to have another one. I don't know - I know that I

shouldn't even try to have a baby, and I am not sure if I want to have

another one, as I am barely handling with two, but as the clock

ticking, I think about it more...

Harumi

> >

> > Do you always have to chelate after amalgam removal? Or do some do

> > okay without chelation? Also, how soon does a body metal level

> > reflect in hair test?

> >

> > thanks so much,

> >

> > Harumi

> >

>

> Harumi,

>

> I suppose some people who are not particularly toxic and who excrete

> well on their own wouldn't need to chelate. Andy talks about people

> coming through on their own in Amalgam Illness, but the process

> isn't quick. However, if chelation is safe and affordable, why not

> chelate? Is there a particular reason?

>

> A hair test taken today is reflecting three months ago. Is that

> what you meant?

>

> Anita

>

June 21, 2006

I wouldn't give up your dream. There are lots of people out there who are toxic

and have NT children. I think a lot has to do with what happens to the child

once it is born. My youngest is a girl whom I didn't vaccinate and even didn't

take the Rhogam at all with as I knew she was our last baby. I am pretty toxic

myself so I just have made sure she wasn't exposed to any toxin if I could help

it. I breastfed for almost a year but supplemented bottles in there too.

Breastfeeding is really important even though you are going to pass along some

toxins as well. Any immunity you have to disease will be passed along thus

providing immunity for the baby. Babies born to toxic mothers will need all the

immunity they can get and this is the most natural way we can give immunity to

our babies. Also making sure the new baby gets the most healthy foods is

important. Toxins also come from our food so organics are always the way to go.

Avoiding sugar-especially high fructose

corn syrup-, trans fats, food colorings, preservatives...all the artificials.

Toxins are also in many cleaning products and products we use to bathe with.

Making sure they are as free from chemicals as possible is very important. Also

don't be so quick to medicate. Obviously I don't mean to withold needed medical

attention!!! I just mean to be mindful. Ear infections don't always need

antibiotics, many colds can be treated with natural remedies. I learned that

when my kids started to catch something I started giving a lot of vitamin c,

olive leaf extract and extra enzymes especially the AFP Peptizyde. It ususally

stops whatever it is quickly. Not always but like 90% of the time. My

daughter's health is the best. She has never seen a doctor for being sick and

she is 21 months old. She has had maybe 3 illnesses that progressed past runny

noses. Her immune system is intact and works beautifully.

I think you can control to a major degree the health outcome of your children.

Three children is hard, I can vouch for that!! I have a 6 1/2 year old ASD son,

another son who is almost 4 who is NT but has a mild form of asthma and a few

quirks and a 21 month old daughter who is a bundle of energy!!!

Chelation could very well take a couple years. I am hoping to start that in

the near future. After getting the fillings out you will excrete a certain

amount of mercury but the bulk of it will stay in you. Many of our kids aren't

great at detoxing and they likely get this genetically from us. If you aren't a

good detoxer throwing that amount of mercury into your body without chelation

could lead to a lot of issues when it redistributes. I have read of some who

feel great when they first get their fillings out and once everything settles

feel worse then they did before. If you are going to get your fillings out I

would definitely think about chelation.

Wish you well!!

harumistew <ct-stewarts@...> wrote: