Guest guest Posted January 11, 2006 Report Share Posted January 11, 2006 > <tt> > hi all im sure its been asked before and ive read so many conflicting <BR> > results on this question. after removal when and how are you to <BR> > chelate? i am going this procedure(removal) myself and already have <BR> > some autoimmune systems in question so some are saying to just let the <BR> > body naturally chelate others are saying do some things to help it <BR> > along. what would you or have you all done?????? i just dont want to <BR> > feel bad or sick with a busy and energetic career plus 2 ASD boys <BR> > too.some have even said dont remove but i worry about future problems <BR> > like lupus or ms and especially alzheimers as it runs predominately in <BR> > my family. thanks for input...<BR> > <BR> > <BR> > <BR> > </tt> > > > <!-- |**|begin egp html banner|**| --> > > <br><br> > <tt> > =======================================================<BR> > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 28, 2006 Report Share Posted May 28, 2006 -Zyan, Sorry to butt in on this post...couldn't help myself. I just had 11 teeth done, about 14 amalgams removed this past Tuesday. So far I do not regret a thing. My list of symptoms was very long. I will list what I can remember: digestive problems, acne resistant to treatment, hair loss, fatigue, mood swings, depression, shortness of breath on exertion, dry mouth, bleeding gums, cold hands and feet, blurry/fuzzy vision, ringing in the ears, blue toe nails, burning lungs, heart palpitations, foul taste in mouth, bleeding gums, trouble sleeping, paranoid thoughts, panic, impending sense of doom feelings, dry itchy skin, abnormal finger/toe nail growth (longitudal ridges, soft, break easy), pms, terrible menstrual cramps, bloating after eating, ...there is more I can't recall. In only the few days I have had them out this is what I have noticed: The first day, the nasty taste in my mouth was gone. My mouth was no longer dry. My vision was a bit clearer (colors sharper, distance clearer), No burning lungs, a calmer feeling. That night I slept awesome. The second day: I did feel a bit weak and tired. Might have been from the sedative the day before. I took 1000mg of vitamin C four times a day. This stopped the weak yucky feeling. Still not bad taste, I woke up without the usual flem lump in my throat and my teeth were not coated with yuck. (I refer to this as dry mouth). I no longer need to carry water with me everywhere. Later that evening my feet began burning. About 8 hours later this stopped. And my feet were warm on their own for the first time in years. The blue toe nails are gone too. Same with my cold hands. Here I am 5 days after removal and still warm. I have been sweating off and on since removal. Part of natural detox but not severe or bothersome. Today I had energy like I don't remember having. I worked in the garden for hours without getting tired, or out of breath. Very unusual for me before. I am not overweight and eat healthy but always got winded and tired easy. Also, for the first time in years...my gums did not bleed when I flossed!! I am actuall amazed at how quick some of these things happend. I know I have a ways to go with detox but the improvments I have already had are like miracles for me. Oh..also a pre removal thing...my thyroid has slowly been going down in function for the past 10 years. Ever so slightly. My regular doc did not want to treat this. The Doc of Integrative Medicine that removed my fillings is treating it with bovine hormone which is natural and only requires a year to " kick start " my thyroid, since mercury blocks thyroid function. -- In , " zyansansom1974 " <zyan@...> wrote: > > -- > > Hi Nina, > Just wondered what your symptoms were pre and post amalgam removal, > how many fillings did you have? do you feel it has made a great > difference to you. I am considering having mine removed have an appt > on thursday to check the level of exposure and cost! > Thanks zyan > - In , " zyansansom1974 " <zyan@> > wrote: > > > > Hi nina, > > > > In my experience citracidal or gratefruit seed extract and garlic > is > > effective in removing parasites. > > > > > > > > > > Does anyone know of an online group like this one that knows a lot > > > about treating parasites? > > > > > > I had my amalgams out last year and am busy (!) chelating, but was > > > recently diagnosed with blastocystis hominis. There is > disagreement > > > in the medical community as to whether b. hominis is pathogenic or > > > not. But after years of chronic fatigue and gastroenterological > > > issues--I want to get rid of it. > > > > > > Most strains appear to be resistant to metronidazole/flagyl and > > > tinidazole (which Andy has recommended in general as a better > > > alternative than metronidazole). I know my strain is resistant as > > > I've taken metronidazole multiple times for giardia. > > > > > > Advice from anyone who has dealt with this successfully would be > > most > > > appreciated. > > > > > > Regards, > > > Nina > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 29, 2006 Report Share Posted May 29, 2006 > > > > > > > > Does anyone know of an online group like this one that knows a > lot > > > > about treating parasites? > > > > > > > > I had my amalgams out last year and am busy (!) chelating, but > was > > > > recently diagnosed with blastocystis hominis. There is > > disagreement > > > > in the medical community as to whether b. hominis is > pathogenic or > > > > not. But after years of chronic fatigue and > gastroenterological > > > > issues--I want to get rid of it. > > > > > > > > Most strains appear to be resistant to metronidazole/flagyl and > > > > tinidazole (which Andy has recommended in general as a better > > > > alternative than metronidazole). I know my strain is > resistant as > > > > I've taken metronidazole multiple times for giardia. > > > > > > > > Advice from anyone who has dealt with this successfully would > be > > > most > > > > appreciated. > > > > > > > > Regards, > > > > Nina > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 29, 2006 Report Share Posted May 29, 2006 Try high-dose Vitamin C. Do you have amalgams in or out? Read Andy's book and chelate once they are all out. Barb [ ] Re: amalgam removal > >> > > > >> > > > Does anyone know of an online group like this one that knows > a >> lot >> > > > about treating parasites? >> > > > >> > > > I had my amalgams out last year and am busy (!) chelating, > but >> was >> > > > recently diagnosed with blastocystis hominis. There is >> > disagreement >> > > > in the medical community as to whether b. hominis is >> pathogenic or >> > > > not. But after years of chronic fatigue and >> gastroenterological >> > > > issues--I want to get rid of it. >> > > > >> > > > Most strains appear to be resistant to metronidazole/flagyl > and >> > > > tinidazole (which Andy has recommended in general as a better >> > > > alternative than metronidazole). I know my strain is >> resistant as >> > > > I've taken metronidazole multiple times for giardia. >> > > > >> > > > Advice from anyone who has dealt with this successfully would >> be >> > > most >> > > > appreciated. >> > > > >> > > > Regards, >> > > > Nina >> > > > >> > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > ======================================================= > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 29, 2006 Report Share Posted May 29, 2006 With variations here and there I could have written this list of symptoms which I'm also dealing with. It wasn't until my daughter was diagnosed with ASD that I began to understand how ill I was. It's going to cost close to $6,000 to have my almagams removed. My endocrinologist tor has found a thyroid nodule which is close to an inch. From hair loss to cold extremities and much, more, she doctor says that my symptoms are caused by depression. She's offered antidepressants, but that's it. Needless to say, I won't be seeing her again. If I can get half of my issues resolved it will be worth every cent! > > -Zyan, > Sorry to butt in on this post...couldn't help myself. I just had 11 > teeth done, about 14 amalgams removed this past Tuesday. So far I do > not regret a thing. My list of symptoms was very long. I will list > what I can remember: > digestive problems, acne resistant to treatment, hair loss, fatigue, > mood swings, depression, shortness of breath on exertion, dry mouth, > bleeding gums, cold hands and feet, blurry/fuzzy vision, ringing in > the ears, blue toe nails, burning lungs, heart palpitations, foul > taste in mouth, bleeding gums, trouble sleeping, paranoid thoughts, > panic, impending sense of doom feelings, dry itchy skin, abnormal > finger/toe nail growth (longitudal ridges, soft, break easy), pms, > terrible menstrual cramps, bloating after eating, ...there is more I > can't recall. > In only the few days I have had them out this is what I have > noticed: The first day, the nasty taste in my mouth was gone. My > mouth was no longer dry. My vision was a bit clearer (colors > sharper, distance clearer), No burning lungs, a calmer feeling. That > night I slept awesome. > The second day: I did feel a bit weak and tired. Might have been > from the sedative the day before. I took 1000mg of vitamin C four > times a day. This stopped the weak yucky feeling. Still not bad > taste, I woke up without the usual flem lump in my throat and my > teeth were not coated with yuck. (I refer to this as dry mouth). I > no longer need to carry water with me everywhere. Later that evening > my feet began burning. About 8 hours later this stopped. And my feet > were warm on their own for the first time in years. The blue toe > nails are gone too. Same with my cold hands. Here I am 5 days after > removal and still warm. I have been sweating off and on since > removal. Part of natural detox but not severe or bothersome. Today I > had energy like I don't remember having. I worked in the garden for > hours without getting tired, or out of breath. Very unusual for me > before. I am not overweight and eat healthy but always got winded > and tired easy. Also, for the first time in years...my gums did not > bleed when I flossed!! I am actuall amazed at how quick some of > these things happend. I know I have a ways to go with detox but the > improvments I have already had are like miracles for me. Oh..also a > pre removal thing...my thyroid has slowly been going down in > function for the past 10 years. Ever so slightly. My regular doc did > not want to treat this. The Doc of Integrative Medicine that removed > my fillings is treating it with bovine hormone which is natural and > only requires a year to " kick start " my thyroid, since mercury > blocks thyroid function. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 30, 2006 Report Share Posted May 30, 2006 My endocrinologist tor has found a thyroid nodule > which is close to an inch. From hair loss to cold extremities and much, more, > she doctor says that my symptoms are caused by depression. She's offered > antidepressants, but that's it. I swear, endocrinologists SUCK. When I was begging mine for Armour and telling him that the synthroid was Not Working and giving him a list of symptoms -- hair loss, zero sex drive, extreme lethargy, deep brain fog -- he told me I was mentally ill and needed to see a different doctor to figure out what my real problem was. Do whatever you have to to get some Armour thyroid. It makes a *huge difference. Nell Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 30, 2006 Report Share Posted May 30, 2006 > >> > > > > >> > > > Does anyone know of an online group like this one that knows > > a > >> lot > >> > > > about treating parasites? > >> > > > > >> > > > I had my amalgams out last year and am busy (!) chelating, > > but > >> was > >> > > > recently diagnosed with blastocystis hominis. There is > >> > disagreement > >> > > > in the medical community as to whether b. hominis is > >> pathogenic or > >> > > > not. But after years of chronic fatigue and > >> gastroenterological > >> > > > issues--I want to get rid of it. > >> > > > > >> > > > Most strains appear to be resistant to metronidazole/flagyl > > and > >> > > > tinidazole (which Andy has recommended in general as a better > >> > > > alternative than metronidazole). I know my strain is > >> resistant as > >> > > > I've taken metronidazole multiple times for giardia. > >> > > > > >> > > > Advice from anyone who has dealt with this successfully would > >> be > >> > > most > >> > > > appreciated. > >> > > > > >> > > > Regards, > >> > > > Nina > >> > > > > >> > > > >> > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ======================================================= > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 30, 2006 Report Share Posted May 30, 2006 Some say that vitamin C interferes with the effectiveness of the anesthesia (novacaine/lidocaine) so you may want to skip it the days you have dental work done. S S <BR> >awaiting removal taking high dose vit c.<BR> thanks zyan<BR> > Try high-dose Vitamin C. Do you have amalgams in or out? Read <BR> Andy's book <BR> > and chelate once they are all out.<BR> > <BR> > Barb<BR> _______________________________________________ Join Excite! - http://www.excite.com The most personalized portal on the Web! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 31, 2006 Report Share Posted May 31, 2006 Bill, I'm in the process of getting my five removed. I'm using an IOAMT dentist (I think that's the acronym) -- we've been doing them in sections of the mouth. About a section every six weeks. I have one in each section and two in another. I don't know about getting all at once, seems a lot, unless you only have one or two. Don't know anything about the Huggins protocol, but you defintely need someone experienced with it. Diane > > Hi, > > I am wondering if anyone has experience with amalgam removal and a > safe number of teeth to correct per visit. I am considering amalgam > removal with a dentist specializing in safe removal who subscribes to > Dr. Huggins protocol which promotes the complete (all surfaces) > restoration of amalgams in a single visit. I am unsure or more > clearly apprehensive and would like if anyone has experience and could > comment. > > Thanks, > > Bill > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 31, 2006 Report Share Posted May 31, 2006 Bill, I'm in the process of getting my five removed. I'm using an IOAMT dentist (I think that's the acronym) -- we've been doing them in sections of the mouth. About a section every six weeks. I have one in each section and two in another. I don't know about getting all at once, seems a lot, unless you only have one or two. Don't know anything about the Huggins protocol, but you defintely need someone experienced with it. Diane > > Hi, > > I am wondering if anyone has experience with amalgam removal and a > safe number of teeth to correct per visit. I am considering amalgam > removal with a dentist specializing in safe removal who subscribes to > Dr. Huggins protocol which promotes the complete (all surfaces) > restoration of amalgams in a single visit. I am unsure or more > clearly apprehensive and would like if anyone has experience and could > comment. > > Thanks, > > Bill > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 31, 2006 Report Share Posted May 31, 2006 Bill, I am not sure how many fillings you have. I just had all mine removed last week in one visit by a Huggins trained doctor under that same protocol. I do not regret it at all, nor the cost. I did have conscious iv sedation so I was calm but awake for the whole time. Many people debate whether you should remove them all or go in bits. I researched it and chose all at once for myself. I had 11 teeth some with multiple surfaces...so for me A LOT of mercury. I had shortness or breath and burning lungs, fatigue, and physical activity tired me ou in minutes and I was out of breath. I had the whole list of symptoms. I have seen some go away already without any formal chelation. I was very apprehensive before I did this. I comtemplated it for almost a year. Kept researching etc. But all roads led back to this mercury in my mouth. So I went for the inital exam and testing. (What the heck right, maybe they would find so reason for all my symptoms). When I went and met the doctor...I knew it was right. She knew so much and really understood what this was doing to me. I think it is the best thing I have ever done for myself! I traveled to the next state to have it done. Bear in mind your teeth will ache after the novacaine wears off but by bedtime that night my teeth were fine. (another words, any discomfort I had was no different than when they put the original fillings in). It was actually a good ting I did do this because all of the fillings were going on 15+ years old. She said that she could not beleive how much decay was under the old fillings. So having them all changed may have save my teeth for literally rotting out of my head. So just because a tooth has a filling doesn't mean it is set forever. Mercury filling do leak in bacteria around them. The same day I had them out, the " yuck " taste in my mouth was gone. No more dry mouth. No shortness or breath, no burning lungs, and my eyes were clearer (brighter colors, clearer distance vision). Each day seems to bring a new change or two. You still have to detox the mercury after removal but at least you have that option once they are out. Your huggins dentist should remove them by quadrant according to the electrical current. But it can be done all at once. As long as you have knowledge of the Huggins protocol you will know that they are doing things right. Many times poeple only have one quadrant done at atime in order to get time to pay for the next round. In effect this could end up costing more as you have to pay for more anesthetics each time. But I was not " sick or no functional as I thought I would be " . I only battled a bit of weak and queasy the second day. This went away with vitamin C. Hope this helps..let me know if there are any other questions about it that I might be able to shed some insight into. -- In , " watchbillw " <watchbill@...> wrote: > > Hi, > > I am wondering if anyone has experience with amalgam removal and a > safe number of teeth to correct per visit. I am considering amalgam > removal with a dentist specializing in safe removal who subscribes to > Dr. Huggins protocol which promotes the complete (all surfaces) > restoration of amalgams in a single visit. I am unsure or more > clearly apprehensive and would like if anyone has experience and could > comment. > > Thanks, > > Bill > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 31, 2006 Report Share Posted May 31, 2006 I had mine done Huggins protocol many (about 15) years ago, quadrant by quadrant in 3 subsequent days. One quadrant on Tuesday, one on Wednesday, and one each morning and afternoon on Thursday. I would have spaced the visits out more but had gone out of state to have the work done because I couldn't find anyone in my state at the time who would do it right. I had 17 amalgams replaced. The wonderful dentist called all his regular patients scheduled for those days and rescheduled them so he could do my work. S S Hi,<BR> <BR> I am wondering if anyone has experience with amalgam removal and a<BR> safe number of teeth to correct per visit. I am considering amalgam<BR> removal with a dentist specializing in safe removal who subscribes to<BR> Dr. Huggins protocol which promotes the complete (all surfaces)<BR> restoration of amalgams in a single visit. I am unsure or more<BR> clearly apprehensive and would like if anyone has experience and could<BR> comment.<BR> <BR> Thanks,<BR> <BR> Bill<BR> _______________________________________________ Join Excite! - http://www.excite.com The most personalized portal on the Web! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 31, 2006 Report Share Posted May 31, 2006 Bill - My 7-year-old grandson had his amalgams removed by the Dr. Huggins protocol last July. The work was done all at one time while he was sedated. He had four amalgams removed and replaced and three teeth (those with nickel crowns) pulled. I found it interesting that the teeth were treated in a very particular order, something to do with electrical charges. It seems this was an important part of the procedure. My grandson had no recuperation problems and healed very quickly. Older patients at the dentist seemed to recover pretty quickly also. We saw them because we all made three visits to the dentist--to have a pre-procedure visit, the procedure itself and a post-procedure visit. Nana Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 31, 2006 Report Share Posted May 31, 2006 Hey Jan, I will meet my dentist tomorrow for the initial consult and she is a Huggins elite dentist so i feel comfortable with that just the latter part you mentioned with discomfort after drilling..... I have always had pretty sensitive teeth so that's my biggest stumbling block. I have to get this done i missing my life. Thanks, Bill > > > > Hi, > > > > I am wondering if anyone has experience with amalgam removal and a > > safe number of teeth to correct per visit. I am considering amalgam > > removal with a dentist specializing in safe removal who subscribes to > > Dr. Huggins protocol which promotes the complete (all surfaces) > > restoration of amalgams in a single visit. I am unsure or more > > clearly apprehensive and would like if anyone has experience and > could > > comment. > > > > Thanks, > > > > Bill > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 31, 2006 Report Share Posted May 31, 2006 I didn't really have pain just the sensations of pressure repeated themselves as the anesthesia was wearing off. I was also incredibly hungry. (I'm a wimp when it comes to pain). S S Hey Jan,<BR> <BR> I will meet my dentist tomorrow for the initial consult and she is a<BR> Huggins elite dentist so i feel comfortable with that just the latter<BR> part you mentioned with discomfort after drilling..... I have always<BR> had pretty sensitive teeth so that's my biggest stumbling block. I<BR> have to get this done i missing my life.<BR> <BR> Thanks,<BR> <BR> Bill<BR> _______________________________________________ Join Excite! - http://www.excite.com The most personalized portal on the Web! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 31, 2006 Report Share Posted May 31, 2006 I too have always had sensitive teeth. No lie they might be that way for a few days or a week afterwards. I did not have to eat liquids or anything, but not steak either. I did not need any pain medication post removal. Not even tylenol. It really was not bad compared to what I thought it would be. I dreamt up a nightmare before I got there, but it was really easy. A she huh? Wonder if it's the same one I went to ..Also a huggins elite. Any chance your going to PA? > > > > > > Hi, > > > > > > I am wondering if anyone has experience with amalgam removal and a > > > safe number of teeth to correct per visit. I am considering amalgam > > > removal with a dentist specializing in safe removal who subscribes to > > > Dr. Huggins protocol which promotes the complete (all surfaces) > > > restoration of amalgams in a single visit. I am unsure or more > > > clearly apprehensive and would like if anyone has experience and > > could > > > comment. > > > > > > Thanks, > > > > > > Bill > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 20, 2006 Report Share Posted June 20, 2006 > > Do you always have to chelate after amalgam removal? Or do some do > okay without chelation? Also, how soon does a body metal level > reflect in hair test? > > thanks so much, > > Harumi > Harumi, I suppose some people who are not particularly toxic and who excrete well on their own wouldn't need to chelate. Andy talks about people coming through on their own in Amalgam Illness, but the process isn't quick. However, if chelation is safe and affordable, why not chelate? Is there a particular reason? A hair test taken today is reflecting three months ago. Is that what you meant? Anita Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 21, 2006 Report Share Posted June 21, 2006 Hi Anita, Thanks for your reply. I asked because I'm 40, and I still can't give up the idea of having a baby girl. I have 2 boys- 7 year old with PDD, 4 & 1/2 with dev. delays(probaby ADHD). I don't know how many amalgam filings I have - at least 5 - and 3 of those were placed right before I got pregnant with my first son. If I chelate, it may take a couple to a few years, right? Then I think I will miss my last chance of maybe able to have another one. I don't know - I know that I shouldn't even try to have a baby, and I am not sure if I want to have another one, as I am barely handling with two, but as the clock ticking, I think about it more... Harumi > > > > Do you always have to chelate after amalgam removal? Or do some do > > okay without chelation? Also, how soon does a body metal level > > reflect in hair test? > > > > thanks so much, > > > > Harumi > > > > Harumi, > > I suppose some people who are not particularly toxic and who excrete > well on their own wouldn't need to chelate. Andy talks about people > coming through on their own in Amalgam Illness, but the process > isn't quick. However, if chelation is safe and affordable, why not > chelate? Is there a particular reason? > > A hair test taken today is reflecting three months ago. Is that > what you meant? > > Anita > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 21, 2006 Report Share Posted June 21, 2006 I wouldn't give up your dream. There are lots of people out there who are toxic and have NT children. I think a lot has to do with what happens to the child once it is born. My youngest is a girl whom I didn't vaccinate and even didn't take the Rhogam at all with as I knew she was our last baby. I am pretty toxic myself so I just have made sure she wasn't exposed to any toxin if I could help it. I breastfed for almost a year but supplemented bottles in there too. Breastfeeding is really important even though you are going to pass along some toxins as well. Any immunity you have to disease will be passed along thus providing immunity for the baby. Babies born to toxic mothers will need all the immunity they can get and this is the most natural way we can give immunity to our babies. Also making sure the new baby gets the most healthy foods is important. Toxins also come from our food so organics are always the way to go. Avoiding sugar-especially high fructose corn syrup-, trans fats, food colorings, preservatives...all the artificials. Toxins are also in many cleaning products and products we use to bathe with. Making sure they are as free from chemicals as possible is very important. Also don't be so quick to medicate. Obviously I don't mean to withold needed medical attention!!! I just mean to be mindful. Ear infections don't always need antibiotics, many colds can be treated with natural remedies. I learned that when my kids started to catch something I started giving a lot of vitamin c, olive leaf extract and extra enzymes especially the AFP Peptizyde. It ususally stops whatever it is quickly. Not always but like 90% of the time. My daughter's health is the best. She has never seen a doctor for being sick and she is 21 months old. She has had maybe 3 illnesses that progressed past runny noses. Her immune system is intact and works beautifully. I think you can control to a major degree the health outcome of your children. Three children is hard, I can vouch for that!! I have a 6 1/2 year old ASD son, another son who is almost 4 who is NT but has a mild form of asthma and a few quirks and a 21 month old daughter who is a bundle of energy!!! Chelation could very well take a couple years. I am hoping to start that in the near future. After getting the fillings out you will excrete a certain amount of mercury but the bulk of it will stay in you. Many of our kids aren't great at detoxing and they likely get this genetically from us. If you aren't a good detoxer throwing that amount of mercury into your body without chelation could lead to a lot of issues when it redistributes. I have read of some who feel great when they first get their fillings out and once everything settles feel worse then they did before. If you are going to get your fillings out I would definitely think about chelation. Wish you well!! harumistew <ct-stewarts@...> wrote: Hi Anita, Thanks for your reply. I asked because I'm 40, and I still can't give up the idea of having a baby girl. I have 2 boys- 7 year old with PDD, 4 & 1/2 with dev. delays(probaby ADHD). I don't know how many amalgam filings I have - at least 5 - and 3 of those were placed right before I got pregnant with my first son. If I chelate, it may take a couple to a few years, right? Then I think I will miss my last chance of maybe able to have another one. I don't know - I know that I shouldn't even try to have a baby, and I am not sure if I want to have another one, as I am barely handling with two, but as the clock ticking, I think about it more... Harumi > > > > Do you always have to chelate after amalgam removal? Or do some do > > okay without chelation? Also, how soon does a body metal level > > reflect in hair test? > > > > thanks so much, > > > > Harumi > > > > Harumi, > > I suppose some people who are not particularly toxic and who excrete > well on their own wouldn't need to chelate. Andy talks about people > coming through on their own in Amalgam Illness, but the process > isn't quick. However, if chelation is safe and affordable, why not > chelate? Is there a particular reason? > > A hair test taken today is reflecting three months ago. Is that > what you meant? > > Anita > “If you think you are too small to be effective, you’ve never been in bed with a mosquito!” –Betty Reese “Uneducated people believe what they are told…Educated people question what they are told.” –Helen Keller --------------------------------- Ring'em or ping'em. Make PC-to-phone calls as low as 1¢/min with Messenger with Voice. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 10, 2006 Report Share Posted July 10, 2006 Did the dentist who did the work use proper protocol? Did/do you have both mercury and gold in your mouth? What other symptoms are you having and what is the reason for all the blood tests? Have you done a hair test? Sounds like you have 3 remaining amalgams? S S <p>Had 8 of my 11 teeth with amalgams done mid last year and my WBC count<br> has been dropping with each blood work I have gotten done. <br> <br> It went from 5.2 in 11/2004 to 2.9 currently. Can the amalgam removal<br> do this? Apparently my immune system has shifted similar to my<br> autistic sons.<br> <br> Any input? Andy?<br> <br> How do you fix this?<br> <br> <br> </p> </div> <!--~-|**|PrettyHtmlStart|**|-~--> <span width= " 1 " style= " color: white; " /></span> <!--~-|**|PrettyHtmlEnd|**|-~--> </body> <!--~-|**|PrettyHtmlStart|**|-~--> <head> <style type= " text/css " > <!-- #ygrp-mlmsg {font-size:13px; font-family: arial,helvetica,clean,sans-serif;*font-size:small;*font:x-small;} #ygrp-mlmsg table {font-size:inherit;font:100%;} #ygrp-mlmsg select, input, textarea {font:99% arial,helvetica,clean,sans-serif;} #ygrp-mlmsg pre, code {font:115% monospace;*font-size:100%;} #ygrp-mlmsg * {line-height:1.22em;} #ygrp-text{ font-family: Georgia; } #ygrp-text p{ margin: 0 0 1em 0; } #ygrp-tpmsgs{ font-family: Arial; clear: both; } #ygrp-vitnav{ padding-top: 10px; font-family: Verdana; font-size: 77%; margin: 0; } #ygrp-vitnav a{ padding: 0 1px; } #ygrp-actbar{ clear: both; margin: 25px 0; white-space:nowrap; color: #666; text-align: right; } #ygrp-actbar .left{ float: left; white-space:nowrap; } ..bld{font-weight:bold;} #ygrp-grft{ font-family: Verdana; font-size: 77%; padding: 15px 0; } #ygrp-ft{ font-family: verdana; font-size: 77%; border-top: 1px solid #666; padding: 5px 0; } #ygrp-mlmsg #logo{ padding-bottom: 10px; } #ygrp-vital{ background-color: #e0ecee; margin-bottom: 20px; padding: 2px 0 8px 8px; } #ygrp-vital #vithd{ font-size: 77%; font-family: Verdana; font-weight: bold; color: #333; text-transform: uppercase; } #ygrp-vital ul{ padding: 0; margin: 2px 0; } #ygrp-vital ul li{ list-style-type: none; clear: both; border: 1px solid #e0ecee; } #ygrp-vital ul li .ct{ font-weight: bold; color: #ff7900; float: right; width: 2em; text-align:right; padding-right: .5em; } #ygrp-vital ul li .cat{ font-weight: bold; } #ygrp-vital a { text-decoration: none; } #ygrp-vital a:hover{ text-decoration: underline; } #ygrp-sponsor #hd{ color: #999; font-size: 77%; } #ygrp-sponsor #ov{ padding: 6px 13px; background-color: #e0ecee; margin-bottom: 20px; } #ygrp-sponsor #ov ul{ padding: 0 0 0 8px; margin: 0; } #ygrp-sponsor #ov li{ list-style-type: square; padding: 6px 0; font-size: 77%; } #ygrp-sponsor #ov li a{ text-decoration: none; font-size: 130%; } #ygrp-sponsor #nc { background-color: #eee; margin-bottom: 20px; padding: 0 8px; } #ygrp-sponsor .ad{ padding: 8px 0; } #ygrp-sponsor .ad #hd1{ font-family: Arial; font-weight: bold; color: #628c2a; font-size: 100%; line-height: 122%; } #ygrp-sponsor .ad a{ text-decoration: none; } #ygrp-sponsor .ad a:hover{ text-decoration: underline; } #ygrp-sponsor .ad p{ margin: 0; } o {font-size: 0; } ..MsoNormal { margin: 0 0 0 0; } #ygrp-text tt{ font-size: 120%; } blockquote{margin: 0 0 0 4px;} ..replbq {margin:4} --> </style> </head> <!--~-|**|PrettyHtmlEnd|**|-~--> </html><!--End group email --> <p> _______________________________________________ Join Excite! - http://www.excite.com The most personalized portal on the Web! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 11, 2006 Report Share Posted July 11, 2006 This is very common and acutally normal. A white cell count that is high in indicative of mercury poisoning, but when the mercury starts to go down, so do the white cells. This phenomenon is referenced in Hal Huggins book It's all in your head. My white cell count is 8,000. The result of 20 years with more than 11 amalgams. My specialist says it will drop with time now that the amalgams are removed(had them out in May). Your body no longer has the daily insult of mercury to fight off. In our country they have actually raised the reference range of white cell blood tests to match the general population who has had a steady increase in white cell counts since the common installation of amalgams. Basically, the baby boomers are the first generation to carry amalgams for the longest amount of time. The generation before them got dentures or pulled rotten teeth. Since it became common place to have amalgams, the general population has an increase in white cells counts. The labs have actually adjusted the range to adapt to this. However, these higher ranges are not really normal, but indicative of something wrong. He explains it all in his book. And the interesting part is how the white cell counts drop within hours and days of amalgam removal. So this actually means that your immune system is not under constant assault. So you would not want to fix this. A high count is bad. Hope this helps. > > Had 8 of my 11 teeth with amalgams done mid last year and my WBC count > has been dropping with each blood work I have gotten done. > > It went from 5.2 in 11/2004 to 2.9 currently. Can the amalgam removal > do this? Apparently my immune system has shifted similar to my > autistic sons. > > Any input? Andy? > > How do you fix this? > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 11, 2006 Report Share Posted July 11, 2006 My son had an apnea incident 8 hours after birth (I suspect he was given the HepB at that point, I'd had a C-section and they were about to bring him to my room). So they ran a blood test and his white count was high. So they put him in the ICU on IV antibiotics! So, if his merc were high due to my amalgams, Rhogham, and flu shot, which caused the apnea when he got the HepB shot, that caused the " unexplained " white blood count, then he got further harmed by the 5 days in the ICU on IV antibiotics. So thanks for solving the " WBC " part of the mystery for us, _____ From: [mailto: ] On Behalf Of Jan Sent: Tuesday, July 11, 2006 8:23 PM Subject: [ ] Re: Amalgam Removal This is very common and acutally normal. A white cell count that is high in indicative of mercury poisoning, but when the mercury starts to go down, so do the white cells. This phenomenon is referenced in Hal Huggins book It's all in your head. My white cell count is 8,000. The result of 20 years with more than 11 amalgams. My specialist says it will drop with time now that the amalgams are removed(had them out in May). Your body no longer has the daily insult of mercury to fight off. In our country they have actually raised the reference range of white cell blood tests to match the general population who has had a steady increase in white cell counts since the common installation of amalgams. Basically, the baby boomers are the first generation to carry amalgams for the longest amount of time. The generation before them got dentures or pulled rotten teeth. Since it became common place to have amalgams, the general population has an increase in white cells counts. The labs have actually adjusted the range to adapt to this. However, these higher ranges are not really normal, but indicative of something wrong. He explains it all in his book. And the interesting part is how the white cell counts drop within hours and days of amalgam removal. So this actually means that your immune system is not under constant assault. So you would not want to fix this. A high count is bad. Hope this helps. > > Had 8 of my 11 teeth with amalgams done mid last year and my WBC count > has been dropping with each blood work I have gotten done. > > It went from 5.2 in 11/2004 to 2.9 currently. Can the amalgam removal > do this? Apparently my immune system has shifted similar to my > autistic sons. > > Any input? Andy? > > How do you fix this? > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 28, 2006 Report Share Posted September 28, 2006 , I strongly question whether it is safe for her to be going through with all 15 removals in a two day period of time. I would contact the biological dentist association or another wholistic dentist that will talk directly with her to find out the safety protocol. I know from experience that as a person who had my amalgams removed my dentist told me he was only able to remove 3 or 4 at a time because of releasing mercury into the system. I then had to wait 3 to 4 weeks and took supplementation to help cleanse my system after each 3/4 removal. Even with 3 amalgams removed I felt ill for about 5 days. My recommendation is to have her get the work done over a period of time. Don't go whole hog as she is going to be creating more issues since she is already dealing with mercury poisoning. Good Luck Dr. Betts > > My cousin has about 15 amalgams and is getting them removed in a couple > weeks. She is using a biological dentist with seemingly correct > protocol. The weird thing is that this dentist is going to remove all > 15 amalgams in 2 consecutive days. Is this safe? As a note, my cousin > has several symptoms of mercury poisoning. Thanks. > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 28, 2006 Report Share Posted September 28, 2006 > > My cousin has about 15 amalgams and is getting them removed in a couple > weeks. She is using a biological dentist with seemingly correct > protocol. The weird thing is that this dentist is going to remove all > 15 amalgams in 2 consecutive days. Is this safe? As a note, my cousin > has several symptoms of mercury poisoning. Thanks. > > We are thinking of having another child, but I am getting my amalgams removed and my entire body detoxed first. I have a mouth full of mercury and my 4 year old son has autism, plus we live in one of four areas that emmit mercury in the air and water in N.W. Florida. My poor 4 year old never had a chance especially after vaccines. I think that more attention needs to be paid to amalgams, perhaps some type of program to have them removed for free! I am a mom, like most of you, who can not work, so my health comes VERY last in finances/ priorities. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 28, 2006 Report Share Posted September 28, 2006 I can't say if it's safe per say. Many people have them removed that way. I had all mine done at once. The key is that they are doing it safely to reduce her exposure. Check the IAOMT website for the safe protocol that they should be using. But it is not unusual to remove them all in a day or a few days. This mainly depends on the dentist and the patiences health. Basically as long as she is getting them out using a safe protocol. I had about that many out in one day. I preferred not to have to go back, since I had to travel 4hours to get there, and 4 hours back home. The main thing is that they are removed in quadrants, or by amphrage (electrical current readings) and using that safe protocol to protect her from exposure. > > > > My cousin has about 15 amalgams and is getting them removed in a > couple > > weeks. She is using a biological dentist with seemingly correct > > protocol. The weird thing is that this dentist is going to remove > all > > 15 amalgams in 2 consecutive days. Is this safe? As a note, my > cousin > > has several symptoms of mercury poisoning. Thanks. > > > > > We are thinking of having another child, but I am getting my amalgams > removed and my entire body detoxed first. I have a mouth full of > mercury and my 4 year old son has autism, plus we live in one of four > areas that emmit mercury in the air and water in N.W. Florida. My > poor 4 year old never had a chance especially after vaccines. > I think that more attention needs to be paid to amalgams, perhaps > some type of program to have them removed for free! I am a mom, like > most of you, who can not work, so my health comes VERY last in > finances/ priorities. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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