Re: Restless Leg Syndrome -- opinions?

[Guest guest]

In a message dated 3/14/2005 1:13:57 AM Eastern Standard Time,

.Ross@... writes:

> Maybe it's time to try a multivitamin

> again.

since i've had digestive ailment , I use a liquid multi vitamin. better

absorption and stuff.

cindi

[Guest guest]

Definitely! Knowledge and humor all in one? Can't beat it!!!

Joyce

>

> i think Tish should write a book for all of us...and then let

perry insert

> editorial comments. I'd buy it. how about yall?

> cindi

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Definitely! Knowledge and humor all in one? Can't beat it!!!

Joyce

>

> i think Tish should write a book for all of us...and then let

perry insert

> editorial comments. I'd buy it. how about yall?

> cindi

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Definitely! Knowledge and humor all in one? Can't beat it!!!

Joyce

>

> i think Tish should write a book for all of us...and then let

perry insert

> editorial comments. I'd buy it. how about yall?

> cindi

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

>I probably just had Restless Intestines.

Ummm...that would be diarrhea, wouldn't it?

Laurie

[Guest guest]

>I probably just had Restless Intestines.

Ummm...that would be diarrhea, wouldn't it?

Laurie

[Guest guest]

>As for the book, maybe a point-counterpoint? Have a doctor write a

>chapter about how great TSH is or something, and then we could rip

>it to shreds in the next chapter. The collective wisdom and

>intelligence in this group is amazing. It would be like squashing

>bugs with a sledgehammer.

Oh, Lordy, this would be so much FUN! Does anyone remember the

" point-counterpoint " thing on Saturday Night Live with Dan Ackroyd and Jane

Curtin? ( " Jane, you slut. " ) 's right - it WOULD be like squashing bugs.

Laurie

[Guest guest]

>As for the book, maybe a point-counterpoint? Have a doctor write a

>chapter about how great TSH is or something, and then we could rip

>it to shreds in the next chapter. The collective wisdom and

>intelligence in this group is amazing. It would be like squashing

>bugs with a sledgehammer.

Oh, Lordy, this would be so much FUN! Does anyone remember the

" point-counterpoint " thing on Saturday Night Live with Dan Ackroyd and Jane

Curtin? ( " Jane, you slut. " ) 's right - it WOULD be like squashing bugs.

Laurie

[Guest guest]

>As for the book, maybe a point-counterpoint? Have a doctor write a

>chapter about how great TSH is or something, and then we could rip

>it to shreds in the next chapter. The collective wisdom and

>intelligence in this group is amazing. It would be like squashing

>bugs with a sledgehammer.

Oh, Lordy, this would be so much FUN! Does anyone remember the

" point-counterpoint " thing on Saturday Night Live with Dan Ackroyd and Jane

Curtin? ( " Jane, you slut. " ) 's right - it WOULD be like squashing bugs.

Laurie

[Guest guest]

Laurie,

You forgot a word: It was " Jane, you IGNORANT slut! " And isn't

that the same word we've been using to describe the endos? LOL

So, in th ebook, we start every counterpoint with " Dr. So-and-So,

you IGNORANT @#$%^ " - that would be very funny, but probably we

wouldn't be taken seriously!!! ;-)

Joyce

> Oh, Lordy, this would be so much FUN! Does anyone remember

the " point-counterpoint " thing on Saturday Night Live with Dan

Ackroyd and Jane Curtin? ( " Jane, you slut. " ) 's right - it

WOULD be like squashing bugs.

>

> Laurie

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Laurie,

You forgot a word: It was " Jane, you IGNORANT slut! " And isn't

that the same word we've been using to describe the endos? LOL

So, in th ebook, we start every counterpoint with " Dr. So-and-So,

you IGNORANT @#$%^ " - that would be very funny, but probably we

wouldn't be taken seriously!!! ;-)

Joyce

> Oh, Lordy, this would be so much FUN! Does anyone remember

the " point-counterpoint " thing on Saturday Night Live with Dan

Ackroyd and Jane Curtin? ( " Jane, you slut. " ) 's right - it

WOULD be like squashing bugs.

>

> Laurie

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Laurie,

You forgot a word: It was " Jane, you IGNORANT slut! " And isn't

that the same word we've been using to describe the endos? LOL

So, in th ebook, we start every counterpoint with " Dr. So-and-So,

you IGNORANT @#$%^ " - that would be very funny, but probably we

wouldn't be taken seriously!!! ;-)

Joyce

> Oh, Lordy, this would be so much FUN! Does anyone remember

the " point-counterpoint " thing on Saturday Night Live with Dan

Ackroyd and Jane Curtin? ( " Jane, you slut. " ) 's right - it

WOULD be like squashing bugs.

>

> Laurie

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

>You forgot a word: It was " Jane, you IGNORANT slut! " And isn't

>that the same word we've been using to describe the endos? LOL

Heh heh heh. Considering what I smoked in those days, it's a wonder I remember

ANYTHING!

Laurie

[Guest guest]

From the Nutrition Almanac. lOL and the following is one paragraph in that

deals with Vitamin E, the whole section is from page 84 to 92.

exerpt - Vitamin E, a fat-soluble vitamin, is composed of a group of

compounds called tocopherols. Seven forms of tocopherol exist in nature:

alpha, beat, delta, epsilon, eta, gamma, and zeta. Of these

alpha-tocopherols are the most potent form and has the greatest nutritional

and biological value. Tocopherols occur in highest concentration in

cold-pressed vegetable oils, and all whole raw seeds and nuts, and

soybeans. Wheat germ oil is the source form which Vitamin E was first

obtained.

Another sentence from the book. Vitamin E prevents both the pituitary and

adrenal homrones from being oxidized and promtoes proepre functioning of

linoleic acid, and unsaturated fatty acid. Since aging in the cells is due

primarily to oxidation.

Oh my I could go on and on. Suffice it to say this is a very good

reference manual to have on hand. Sheila

*********** REPLY SEPARATOR ***********

I'll grab some, thanks. Is mixed tocopherols the best? I never did

quite have that straight.

Thanx! -- prr+

Sheila Bliesath

StarGate Travel

Phone:

For more information on travel or becoming an agent

info@...

[Guest guest]

From the Nutrition Almanac. lOL and the following is one paragraph in that

deals with Vitamin E, the whole section is from page 84 to 92.

exerpt - Vitamin E, a fat-soluble vitamin, is composed of a group of

compounds called tocopherols. Seven forms of tocopherol exist in nature:

alpha, beat, delta, epsilon, eta, gamma, and zeta. Of these

alpha-tocopherols are the most potent form and has the greatest nutritional

and biological value. Tocopherols occur in highest concentration in

cold-pressed vegetable oils, and all whole raw seeds and nuts, and

soybeans. Wheat germ oil is the source form which Vitamin E was first

obtained.

Another sentence from the book. Vitamin E prevents both the pituitary and

adrenal homrones from being oxidized and promtoes proepre functioning of

linoleic acid, and unsaturated fatty acid. Since aging in the cells is due

primarily to oxidation.

Oh my I could go on and on. Suffice it to say this is a very good

reference manual to have on hand. Sheila

*********** REPLY SEPARATOR ***********

I'll grab some, thanks. Is mixed tocopherols the best? I never did

quite have that straight.

Thanx! -- prr+

Sheila Bliesath

StarGate Travel

Phone:

For more information on travel or becoming an agent

info@...

[Guest guest]

> " p_r_ross " wrote:

> Thanks, that is *exactly* the kind of info I was hoping to get.

> What did it feel like? Did it wake you up? Was it worse in the

> morning? How did the neurologist diagnose it?

>

> Wow, I have more questions than a two year old tonight.

>

> -- prr

>

>

> > Ross,

> > That is so funny - I am going to print this one out.

> > I suffered fromn RLS very badly - neurologist wanted to put me on

> > Parkinson medication to relieve the symptoms. I nearly freaked out

> > when I left her office.

> > What ended up working for me was getting enough iron and LOTS of

> > magnesium (>1000mg elemental Mg++/day). It's much easier to try

> these things first.

> > Winona

_________________

Ross,

I ended up being referred to a movement disorder specialist in my

quest to get relief for my migraines. This neurologist was trying to

help me with the migraines and in the course of taking a history, she

determined that my lifestyle was also being compromised by the

restless leg syndrome. Basically, as soon as you become relaxed

enough to fall asleep you get a very strong urge to move your legs -

sometimes you have to get up and walk around - so there is very little

opportunity to sleep -since as soon as you almost get to sleep, you

have to move. It is a very strange sensation - but it is

unmistakable. My father, aunt and brother also have it. My brother

is a pharmacist - so he medicates with pharmaceuticals -but I had such

little success in migraine management with pharmaceuticals that I did

not want another drug added to my life at that time. My iron and

ferritin were low so I increased my iron intake - and did some

reading about iron and RLS. It helped a bit. Then, by some

serendipitous event I stumbled onto the migraine-magnesium connection

-and not only have my crippling migraines vanished, many other things

improved - like the RLS.

By the way - your comment about being a ham long before you started

the piggy pills - too funny:)

Winona

[Guest guest]

> " p_r_ross " wrote:

> Thanks, that is *exactly* the kind of info I was hoping to get.

> What did it feel like? Did it wake you up? Was it worse in the

> morning? How did the neurologist diagnose it?

>

> Wow, I have more questions than a two year old tonight.

>

> -- prr

>

>

> > Ross,

> > That is so funny - I am going to print this one out.

> > I suffered fromn RLS very badly - neurologist wanted to put me on

> > Parkinson medication to relieve the symptoms. I nearly freaked out

> > when I left her office.

> > What ended up working for me was getting enough iron and LOTS of

> > magnesium (>1000mg elemental Mg++/day). It's much easier to try

> these things first.

> > Winona

_________________

Ross,

I ended up being referred to a movement disorder specialist in my

quest to get relief for my migraines. This neurologist was trying to

help me with the migraines and in the course of taking a history, she

determined that my lifestyle was also being compromised by the

restless leg syndrome. Basically, as soon as you become relaxed

enough to fall asleep you get a very strong urge to move your legs -

sometimes you have to get up and walk around - so there is very little

opportunity to sleep -since as soon as you almost get to sleep, you

have to move. It is a very strange sensation - but it is

unmistakable. My father, aunt and brother also have it. My brother

is a pharmacist - so he medicates with pharmaceuticals -but I had such

little success in migraine management with pharmaceuticals that I did

not want another drug added to my life at that time. My iron and

ferritin were low so I increased my iron intake - and did some

reading about iron and RLS. It helped a bit. Then, by some

serendipitous event I stumbled onto the migraine-magnesium connection

-and not only have my crippling migraines vanished, many other things

improved - like the RLS.

By the way - your comment about being a ham long before you started

the piggy pills - too funny:)

Winona

[Guest guest]

> " p_r_ross " wrote:

> Thanks, that is *exactly* the kind of info I was hoping to get.

> What did it feel like? Did it wake you up? Was it worse in the

> morning? How did the neurologist diagnose it?

>

> Wow, I have more questions than a two year old tonight.

>

> -- prr

>

>

> > Ross,

> > That is so funny - I am going to print this one out.

> > I suffered fromn RLS very badly - neurologist wanted to put me on

> > Parkinson medication to relieve the symptoms. I nearly freaked out

> > when I left her office.

> > What ended up working for me was getting enough iron and LOTS of

> > magnesium (>1000mg elemental Mg++/day). It's much easier to try

> these things first.

> > Winona

_________________

Ross,

I ended up being referred to a movement disorder specialist in my

quest to get relief for my migraines. This neurologist was trying to

help me with the migraines and in the course of taking a history, she

determined that my lifestyle was also being compromised by the

restless leg syndrome. Basically, as soon as you become relaxed

enough to fall asleep you get a very strong urge to move your legs -

sometimes you have to get up and walk around - so there is very little

opportunity to sleep -since as soon as you almost get to sleep, you

have to move. It is a very strange sensation - but it is

unmistakable. My father, aunt and brother also have it. My brother

is a pharmacist - so he medicates with pharmaceuticals -but I had such

little success in migraine management with pharmaceuticals that I did

not want another drug added to my life at that time. My iron and

ferritin were low so I increased my iron intake - and did some

reading about iron and RLS. It helped a bit. Then, by some

serendipitous event I stumbled onto the migraine-magnesium connection

-and not only have my crippling migraines vanished, many other things

improved - like the RLS.

By the way - your comment about being a ham long before you started

the piggy pills - too funny:)

Winona

[Guest guest]

Sheila,

I use the mixed tochopherols... I think they are the best... this way your

getting the total combination. Most Vitamin E complex's that I see are made

from soy, I take it anyway, but it's something to think about.

Robin

Re: Re: Restless Leg Syndrome -- opinions?

From the Nutrition Almanac. lOL and the following is one paragraph in that

deals with Vitamin E, the whole section is from page 84 to 92.

exerpt - Vitamin E, a fat-soluble vitamin, is composed of a group of

compounds called tocopherols. Seven forms of tocopherol exist in nature:

alpha, beat, delta, epsilon, eta, gamma, and zeta. Of these

alpha-tocopherols are the most potent form and has the greatest nutritional

and biological value. Tocopherols occur in highest concentration in

cold-pressed vegetable oils, and all whole raw seeds and nuts, and

soybeans. Wheat germ oil is the source form which Vitamin E was first

obtained.

Another sentence from the book. Vitamin E prevents both the pituitary and

adrenal homrones from being oxidized and promtoes proepre functioning of

linoleic acid, and unsaturated fatty acid. Since aging in the cells is due

primarily to oxidation.

Oh my I could go on and on. Suffice it to say this is a very good

reference manual to have on hand. Sheila

*********** REPLY SEPARATOR ***********

I'll grab some, thanks. Is mixed tocopherols the best? I never did

quite have that straight.

Thanx! -- prr+

Sheila Bliesath

StarGate Travel

Phone:

For more information on travel or becoming an agent

info@...

[Guest guest]

Sheila,

I use the mixed tochopherols... I think they are the best... this way your

getting the total combination. Most Vitamin E complex's that I see are made

from soy, I take it anyway, but it's something to think about.

Robin

Re: Re: Restless Leg Syndrome -- opinions?

From the Nutrition Almanac. lOL and the following is one paragraph in that

deals with Vitamin E, the whole section is from page 84 to 92.

exerpt - Vitamin E, a fat-soluble vitamin, is composed of a group of

compounds called tocopherols. Seven forms of tocopherol exist in nature:

alpha, beat, delta, epsilon, eta, gamma, and zeta. Of these

alpha-tocopherols are the most potent form and has the greatest nutritional

and biological value. Tocopherols occur in highest concentration in

cold-pressed vegetable oils, and all whole raw seeds and nuts, and

soybeans. Wheat germ oil is the source form which Vitamin E was first

obtained.

Another sentence from the book. Vitamin E prevents both the pituitary and

adrenal homrones from being oxidized and promtoes proepre functioning of

linoleic acid, and unsaturated fatty acid. Since aging in the cells is due

primarily to oxidation.

Oh my I could go on and on. Suffice it to say this is a very good

reference manual to have on hand. Sheila

*********** REPLY SEPARATOR ***********

I'll grab some, thanks. Is mixed tocopherols the best? I never did

quite have that straight.

Thanx! -- prr+

Sheila Bliesath

StarGate Travel

Phone:

For more information on travel or becoming an agent

info@...

[Guest guest]

ROFL! And actually, this is pretty accurate. They certainly are

ignorant, and apparently they'll do pretty much anything for money...

-- prr

" Joyce Bickford " joyce_bickford@...>

Laurie,

You forgot a word: It was " Jane, you IGNORANT slut! " And isn't

that the same word we've been using to describe the endos? LOL

So, in th ebook, we start every counterpoint with " Dr. So-and-So,

you IGNORANT @#$%^ " - that would be very funny, but probably we

wouldn't be taken seriously!!! ;-)

Joyce

[Guest guest]

ROFL! And actually, this is pretty accurate. They certainly are

ignorant, and apparently they'll do pretty much anything for money...

-- prr

" Joyce Bickford " joyce_bickford@...>

Laurie,

You forgot a word: It was " Jane, you IGNORANT slut! " And isn't

that the same word we've been using to describe the endos? LOL

So, in th ebook, we start every counterpoint with " Dr. So-and-So,

you IGNORANT @#$%^ " - that would be very funny, but probably we

wouldn't be taken seriously!!! ;-)

Joyce

[Guest guest]

ROFL! And actually, this is pretty accurate. They certainly are

ignorant, and apparently they'll do pretty much anything for money...

-- prr

" Joyce Bickford " joyce_bickford@...>

Laurie,

You forgot a word: It was " Jane, you IGNORANT slut! " And isn't

that the same word we've been using to describe the endos? LOL

So, in th ebook, we start every counterpoint with " Dr. So-and-So,

you IGNORANT @#$%^ " - that would be very funny, but probably we

wouldn't be taken seriously!!! ;-)

Joyce

[Guest guest]

Thanks very much, I think that's what I needed to know. I haven't had

anything remotely like that. But from all the comments I've gotten, I

think a good multi, some E, and some more magnesium would be good things

to do anyway, so I'll do that (no iron for me, ferritin is too high

already).

Thank you!

-- prr

" Winona " wallw@...> wrote:

Ross,

I ended up being referred to a movement disorder specialist in my

quest to get relief for my migraines. This neurologist was trying to

help me with the migraines and in the course of taking a history, she

determined that my lifestyle was also being compromised by the

restless leg syndrome. Basically, as soon as you become relaxed

enough to fall asleep you get a very strong urge to move your legs -

sometimes you have to get up and walk around - so there is very little

opportunity to sleep -since as soon as you almost get to sleep, you

have to move. It is a very strange sensation - but it is

unmistakable. My father, aunt and brother also have it. My brother

is a pharmacist - so he medicates with pharmaceuticals -but I had such

little success in migraine management with pharmaceuticals that I did

not want another drug added to my life at that time. My iron and

ferritin were low so I increased my iron intake - and did some

reading about iron and RLS. It helped a bit. Then, by some

serendipitous event I stumbled onto the migraine-magnesium connection

-and not only have my crippling migraines vanished, many other things

improved - like the RLS.

[Guest guest]

Thanks very much, I think that's what I needed to know. I haven't had

anything remotely like that. But from all the comments I've gotten, I

think a good multi, some E, and some more magnesium would be good things

to do anyway, so I'll do that (no iron for me, ferritin is too high

already).

Thank you!

-- prr

" Winona " wallw@...> wrote:

Ross,

I ended up being referred to a movement disorder specialist in my

quest to get relief for my migraines. This neurologist was trying to

help me with the migraines and in the course of taking a history, she

determined that my lifestyle was also being compromised by the

restless leg syndrome. Basically, as soon as you become relaxed

enough to fall asleep you get a very strong urge to move your legs -

sometimes you have to get up and walk around - so there is very little

opportunity to sleep -since as soon as you almost get to sleep, you

have to move. It is a very strange sensation - but it is

unmistakable. My father, aunt and brother also have it. My brother

is a pharmacist - so he medicates with pharmaceuticals -but I had such

little success in migraine management with pharmaceuticals that I did

not want another drug added to my life at that time. My iron and

ferritin were low so I increased my iron intake - and did some

reading about iron and RLS. It helped a bit. Then, by some

serendipitous event I stumbled onto the migraine-magnesium connection

-and not only have my crippling migraines vanished, many other things

improved - like the RLS.