Guest guest Posted March 14, 2005 Report Share Posted March 14, 2005 In a message dated 3/14/2005 1:13:57 AM Eastern Standard Time, .Ross@... writes: > Maybe it's time to try a multivitamin > again. since i've had digestive ailment , I use a liquid multi vitamin. better absorption and stuff. cindi Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 14, 2005 Report Share Posted March 14, 2005 Definitely! Knowledge and humor all in one? Can't beat it!!! Joyce > > i think Tish should write a book for all of us...and then let perry insert > editorial comments. I'd buy it. how about yall? > cindi > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 14, 2005 Report Share Posted March 14, 2005 Definitely! Knowledge and humor all in one? Can't beat it!!! Joyce > > i think Tish should write a book for all of us...and then let perry insert > editorial comments. I'd buy it. how about yall? > cindi > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 14, 2005 Report Share Posted March 14, 2005 Definitely! Knowledge and humor all in one? Can't beat it!!! Joyce > > i think Tish should write a book for all of us...and then let perry insert > editorial comments. I'd buy it. how about yall? > cindi > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 14, 2005 Report Share Posted March 14, 2005 >I probably just had Restless Intestines. Ummm...that would be diarrhea, wouldn't it? Laurie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 14, 2005 Report Share Posted March 14, 2005 >I probably just had Restless Intestines. Ummm...that would be diarrhea, wouldn't it? Laurie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 14, 2005 Report Share Posted March 14, 2005 >As for the book, maybe a point-counterpoint? Have a doctor write a >chapter about how great TSH is or something, and then we could rip >it to shreds in the next chapter. The collective wisdom and >intelligence in this group is amazing. It would be like squashing >bugs with a sledgehammer. Oh, Lordy, this would be so much FUN! Does anyone remember the " point-counterpoint " thing on Saturday Night Live with Dan Ackroyd and Jane Curtin? ( " Jane, you slut. " ) 's right - it WOULD be like squashing bugs. Laurie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 14, 2005 Report Share Posted March 14, 2005 >As for the book, maybe a point-counterpoint? Have a doctor write a >chapter about how great TSH is or something, and then we could rip >it to shreds in the next chapter. The collective wisdom and >intelligence in this group is amazing. It would be like squashing >bugs with a sledgehammer. Oh, Lordy, this would be so much FUN! Does anyone remember the " point-counterpoint " thing on Saturday Night Live with Dan Ackroyd and Jane Curtin? ( " Jane, you slut. " ) 's right - it WOULD be like squashing bugs. Laurie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 14, 2005 Report Share Posted March 14, 2005 >As for the book, maybe a point-counterpoint? Have a doctor write a >chapter about how great TSH is or something, and then we could rip >it to shreds in the next chapter. The collective wisdom and >intelligence in this group is amazing. It would be like squashing >bugs with a sledgehammer. Oh, Lordy, this would be so much FUN! Does anyone remember the " point-counterpoint " thing on Saturday Night Live with Dan Ackroyd and Jane Curtin? ( " Jane, you slut. " ) 's right - it WOULD be like squashing bugs. Laurie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 14, 2005 Report Share Posted March 14, 2005 Laurie, You forgot a word: It was " Jane, you IGNORANT slut! " And isn't that the same word we've been using to describe the endos? LOL So, in th ebook, we start every counterpoint with " Dr. So-and-So, you IGNORANT @#$%^ " - that would be very funny, but probably we wouldn't be taken seriously!!! ;-) Joyce > Oh, Lordy, this would be so much FUN! Does anyone remember the " point-counterpoint " thing on Saturday Night Live with Dan Ackroyd and Jane Curtin? ( " Jane, you slut. " ) 's right - it WOULD be like squashing bugs. > > Laurie > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 14, 2005 Report Share Posted March 14, 2005 Laurie, You forgot a word: It was " Jane, you IGNORANT slut! " And isn't that the same word we've been using to describe the endos? LOL So, in th ebook, we start every counterpoint with " Dr. So-and-So, you IGNORANT @#$%^ " - that would be very funny, but probably we wouldn't be taken seriously!!! ;-) Joyce > Oh, Lordy, this would be so much FUN! Does anyone remember the " point-counterpoint " thing on Saturday Night Live with Dan Ackroyd and Jane Curtin? ( " Jane, you slut. " ) 's right - it WOULD be like squashing bugs. > > Laurie > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 14, 2005 Report Share Posted March 14, 2005 Laurie, You forgot a word: It was " Jane, you IGNORANT slut! " And isn't that the same word we've been using to describe the endos? LOL So, in th ebook, we start every counterpoint with " Dr. So-and-So, you IGNORANT @#$%^ " - that would be very funny, but probably we wouldn't be taken seriously!!! ;-) Joyce > Oh, Lordy, this would be so much FUN! Does anyone remember the " point-counterpoint " thing on Saturday Night Live with Dan Ackroyd and Jane Curtin? ( " Jane, you slut. " ) 's right - it WOULD be like squashing bugs. > > Laurie > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 14, 2005 Report Share Posted March 14, 2005 >You forgot a word: It was " Jane, you IGNORANT slut! " And isn't >that the same word we've been using to describe the endos? LOL Heh heh heh. Considering what I smoked in those days, it's a wonder I remember ANYTHING! Laurie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 14, 2005 Report Share Posted March 14, 2005 From the Nutrition Almanac. lOL and the following is one paragraph in that deals with Vitamin E, the whole section is from page 84 to 92. exerpt - Vitamin E, a fat-soluble vitamin, is composed of a group of compounds called tocopherols. Seven forms of tocopherol exist in nature: alpha, beat, delta, epsilon, eta, gamma, and zeta. Of these alpha-tocopherols are the most potent form and has the greatest nutritional and biological value. Tocopherols occur in highest concentration in cold-pressed vegetable oils, and all whole raw seeds and nuts, and soybeans. Wheat germ oil is the source form which Vitamin E was first obtained. Another sentence from the book. Vitamin E prevents both the pituitary and adrenal homrones from being oxidized and promtoes proepre functioning of linoleic acid, and unsaturated fatty acid. Since aging in the cells is due primarily to oxidation. Oh my I could go on and on. Suffice it to say this is a very good reference manual to have on hand. Sheila *********** REPLY SEPARATOR *********** I'll grab some, thanks. Is mixed tocopherols the best? I never did quite have that straight. Thanx! -- prr+ Sheila Bliesath StarGate Travel Phone: For more information on travel or becoming an agent info@... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 14, 2005 Report Share Posted March 14, 2005 From the Nutrition Almanac. lOL and the following is one paragraph in that deals with Vitamin E, the whole section is from page 84 to 92. exerpt - Vitamin E, a fat-soluble vitamin, is composed of a group of compounds called tocopherols. Seven forms of tocopherol exist in nature: alpha, beat, delta, epsilon, eta, gamma, and zeta. Of these alpha-tocopherols are the most potent form and has the greatest nutritional and biological value. Tocopherols occur in highest concentration in cold-pressed vegetable oils, and all whole raw seeds and nuts, and soybeans. Wheat germ oil is the source form which Vitamin E was first obtained. Another sentence from the book. Vitamin E prevents both the pituitary and adrenal homrones from being oxidized and promtoes proepre functioning of linoleic acid, and unsaturated fatty acid. Since aging in the cells is due primarily to oxidation. Oh my I could go on and on. Suffice it to say this is a very good reference manual to have on hand. Sheila *********** REPLY SEPARATOR *********** I'll grab some, thanks. Is mixed tocopherols the best? I never did quite have that straight. Thanx! -- prr+ Sheila Bliesath StarGate Travel Phone: For more information on travel or becoming an agent info@... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 14, 2005 Report Share Posted March 14, 2005 > " p_r_ross " wrote: > Thanks, that is *exactly* the kind of info I was hoping to get. > What did it feel like? Did it wake you up? Was it worse in the > morning? How did the neurologist diagnose it? > > Wow, I have more questions than a two year old tonight. > > -- prr > > > > Ross, > > That is so funny - I am going to print this one out. > > I suffered fromn RLS very badly - neurologist wanted to put me on > > Parkinson medication to relieve the symptoms. I nearly freaked out > > when I left her office. > > What ended up working for me was getting enough iron and LOTS of > > magnesium (>1000mg elemental Mg++/day). It's much easier to try > these things first. > > Winona _________________ Ross, I ended up being referred to a movement disorder specialist in my quest to get relief for my migraines. This neurologist was trying to help me with the migraines and in the course of taking a history, she determined that my lifestyle was also being compromised by the restless leg syndrome. Basically, as soon as you become relaxed enough to fall asleep you get a very strong urge to move your legs - sometimes you have to get up and walk around - so there is very little opportunity to sleep -since as soon as you almost get to sleep, you have to move. It is a very strange sensation - but it is unmistakable. My father, aunt and brother also have it. My brother is a pharmacist - so he medicates with pharmaceuticals -but I had such little success in migraine management with pharmaceuticals that I did not want another drug added to my life at that time. My iron and ferritin were low so I increased my iron intake - and did some reading about iron and RLS. It helped a bit. Then, by some serendipitous event I stumbled onto the migraine-magnesium connection -and not only have my crippling migraines vanished, many other things improved - like the RLS. By the way - your comment about being a ham long before you started the piggy pills - too funny:) Winona Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 14, 2005 Report Share Posted March 14, 2005 > " p_r_ross " wrote: > Thanks, that is *exactly* the kind of info I was hoping to get. > What did it feel like? Did it wake you up? Was it worse in the > morning? How did the neurologist diagnose it? > > Wow, I have more questions than a two year old tonight. > > -- prr > > > > Ross, > > That is so funny - I am going to print this one out. > > I suffered fromn RLS very badly - neurologist wanted to put me on > > Parkinson medication to relieve the symptoms. I nearly freaked out > > when I left her office. > > What ended up working for me was getting enough iron and LOTS of > > magnesium (>1000mg elemental Mg++/day). It's much easier to try > these things first. > > Winona _________________ Ross, I ended up being referred to a movement disorder specialist in my quest to get relief for my migraines. This neurologist was trying to help me with the migraines and in the course of taking a history, she determined that my lifestyle was also being compromised by the restless leg syndrome. Basically, as soon as you become relaxed enough to fall asleep you get a very strong urge to move your legs - sometimes you have to get up and walk around - so there is very little opportunity to sleep -since as soon as you almost get to sleep, you have to move. It is a very strange sensation - but it is unmistakable. My father, aunt and brother also have it. My brother is a pharmacist - so he medicates with pharmaceuticals -but I had such little success in migraine management with pharmaceuticals that I did not want another drug added to my life at that time. My iron and ferritin were low so I increased my iron intake - and did some reading about iron and RLS. It helped a bit. Then, by some serendipitous event I stumbled onto the migraine-magnesium connection -and not only have my crippling migraines vanished, many other things improved - like the RLS. By the way - your comment about being a ham long before you started the piggy pills - too funny:) Winona Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 14, 2005 Report Share Posted March 14, 2005 > " p_r_ross " wrote: > Thanks, that is *exactly* the kind of info I was hoping to get. > What did it feel like? Did it wake you up? Was it worse in the > morning? How did the neurologist diagnose it? > > Wow, I have more questions than a two year old tonight. > > -- prr > > > > Ross, > > That is so funny - I am going to print this one out. > > I suffered fromn RLS very badly - neurologist wanted to put me on > > Parkinson medication to relieve the symptoms. I nearly freaked out > > when I left her office. > > What ended up working for me was getting enough iron and LOTS of > > magnesium (>1000mg elemental Mg++/day). It's much easier to try > these things first. > > Winona _________________ Ross, I ended up being referred to a movement disorder specialist in my quest to get relief for my migraines. This neurologist was trying to help me with the migraines and in the course of taking a history, she determined that my lifestyle was also being compromised by the restless leg syndrome. Basically, as soon as you become relaxed enough to fall asleep you get a very strong urge to move your legs - sometimes you have to get up and walk around - so there is very little opportunity to sleep -since as soon as you almost get to sleep, you have to move. It is a very strange sensation - but it is unmistakable. My father, aunt and brother also have it. My brother is a pharmacist - so he medicates with pharmaceuticals -but I had such little success in migraine management with pharmaceuticals that I did not want another drug added to my life at that time. My iron and ferritin were low so I increased my iron intake - and did some reading about iron and RLS. It helped a bit. Then, by some serendipitous event I stumbled onto the migraine-magnesium connection -and not only have my crippling migraines vanished, many other things improved - like the RLS. By the way - your comment about being a ham long before you started the piggy pills - too funny:) Winona Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 14, 2005 Report Share Posted March 14, 2005 Sheila, I use the mixed tochopherols... I think they are the best... this way your getting the total combination. Most Vitamin E complex's that I see are made from soy, I take it anyway, but it's something to think about. Robin Re: Re: Restless Leg Syndrome -- opinions? From the Nutrition Almanac. lOL and the following is one paragraph in that deals with Vitamin E, the whole section is from page 84 to 92. exerpt - Vitamin E, a fat-soluble vitamin, is composed of a group of compounds called tocopherols. Seven forms of tocopherol exist in nature: alpha, beat, delta, epsilon, eta, gamma, and zeta. Of these alpha-tocopherols are the most potent form and has the greatest nutritional and biological value. Tocopherols occur in highest concentration in cold-pressed vegetable oils, and all whole raw seeds and nuts, and soybeans. Wheat germ oil is the source form which Vitamin E was first obtained. Another sentence from the book. Vitamin E prevents both the pituitary and adrenal homrones from being oxidized and promtoes proepre functioning of linoleic acid, and unsaturated fatty acid. Since aging in the cells is due primarily to oxidation. Oh my I could go on and on. Suffice it to say this is a very good reference manual to have on hand. Sheila *********** REPLY SEPARATOR *********** I'll grab some, thanks. Is mixed tocopherols the best? I never did quite have that straight. Thanx! -- prr+ Sheila Bliesath StarGate Travel Phone: For more information on travel or becoming an agent info@... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 14, 2005 Report Share Posted March 14, 2005 Sheila, I use the mixed tochopherols... I think they are the best... this way your getting the total combination. Most Vitamin E complex's that I see are made from soy, I take it anyway, but it's something to think about. Robin Re: Re: Restless Leg Syndrome -- opinions? From the Nutrition Almanac. lOL and the following is one paragraph in that deals with Vitamin E, the whole section is from page 84 to 92. exerpt - Vitamin E, a fat-soluble vitamin, is composed of a group of compounds called tocopherols. Seven forms of tocopherol exist in nature: alpha, beat, delta, epsilon, eta, gamma, and zeta. Of these alpha-tocopherols are the most potent form and has the greatest nutritional and biological value. Tocopherols occur in highest concentration in cold-pressed vegetable oils, and all whole raw seeds and nuts, and soybeans. Wheat germ oil is the source form which Vitamin E was first obtained. Another sentence from the book. Vitamin E prevents both the pituitary and adrenal homrones from being oxidized and promtoes proepre functioning of linoleic acid, and unsaturated fatty acid. Since aging in the cells is due primarily to oxidation. Oh my I could go on and on. Suffice it to say this is a very good reference manual to have on hand. Sheila *********** REPLY SEPARATOR *********** I'll grab some, thanks. Is mixed tocopherols the best? I never did quite have that straight. Thanx! -- prr+ Sheila Bliesath StarGate Travel Phone: For more information on travel or becoming an agent info@... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 14, 2005 Report Share Posted March 14, 2005 ROFL! And actually, this is pretty accurate. They certainly are ignorant, and apparently they'll do pretty much anything for money... -- prr " Joyce Bickford " joyce_bickford@...> Laurie, You forgot a word: It was " Jane, you IGNORANT slut! " And isn't that the same word we've been using to describe the endos? LOL So, in th ebook, we start every counterpoint with " Dr. So-and-So, you IGNORANT @#$%^ " - that would be very funny, but probably we wouldn't be taken seriously!!! ;-) Joyce Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 14, 2005 Report Share Posted March 14, 2005 ROFL! And actually, this is pretty accurate. They certainly are ignorant, and apparently they'll do pretty much anything for money... -- prr " Joyce Bickford " joyce_bickford@...> Laurie, You forgot a word: It was " Jane, you IGNORANT slut! " And isn't that the same word we've been using to describe the endos? LOL So, in th ebook, we start every counterpoint with " Dr. So-and-So, you IGNORANT @#$%^ " - that would be very funny, but probably we wouldn't be taken seriously!!! ;-) Joyce Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 14, 2005 Report Share Posted March 14, 2005 ROFL! And actually, this is pretty accurate. They certainly are ignorant, and apparently they'll do pretty much anything for money... -- prr " Joyce Bickford " joyce_bickford@...> Laurie, You forgot a word: It was " Jane, you IGNORANT slut! " And isn't that the same word we've been using to describe the endos? LOL So, in th ebook, we start every counterpoint with " Dr. So-and-So, you IGNORANT @#$%^ " - that would be very funny, but probably we wouldn't be taken seriously!!! ;-) Joyce Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 14, 2005 Report Share Posted March 14, 2005 Thanks very much, I think that's what I needed to know. I haven't had anything remotely like that. But from all the comments I've gotten, I think a good multi, some E, and some more magnesium would be good things to do anyway, so I'll do that (no iron for me, ferritin is too high already). Thank you! -- prr " Winona " wallw@...> wrote: Ross, I ended up being referred to a movement disorder specialist in my quest to get relief for my migraines. This neurologist was trying to help me with the migraines and in the course of taking a history, she determined that my lifestyle was also being compromised by the restless leg syndrome. Basically, as soon as you become relaxed enough to fall asleep you get a very strong urge to move your legs - sometimes you have to get up and walk around - so there is very little opportunity to sleep -since as soon as you almost get to sleep, you have to move. It is a very strange sensation - but it is unmistakable. My father, aunt and brother also have it. My brother is a pharmacist - so he medicates with pharmaceuticals -but I had such little success in migraine management with pharmaceuticals that I did not want another drug added to my life at that time. My iron and ferritin were low so I increased my iron intake - and did some reading about iron and RLS. It helped a bit. Then, by some serendipitous event I stumbled onto the migraine-magnesium connection -and not only have my crippling migraines vanished, many other things improved - like the RLS. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 14, 2005 Report Share Posted March 14, 2005 Thanks very much, I think that's what I needed to know. I haven't had anything remotely like that. But from all the comments I've gotten, I think a good multi, some E, and some more magnesium would be good things to do anyway, so I'll do that (no iron for me, ferritin is too high already). Thank you! -- prr " Winona " wallw@...> wrote: Ross, I ended up being referred to a movement disorder specialist in my quest to get relief for my migraines. This neurologist was trying to help me with the migraines and in the course of taking a history, she determined that my lifestyle was also being compromised by the restless leg syndrome. Basically, as soon as you become relaxed enough to fall asleep you get a very strong urge to move your legs - sometimes you have to get up and walk around - so there is very little opportunity to sleep -since as soon as you almost get to sleep, you have to move. It is a very strange sensation - but it is unmistakable. My father, aunt and brother also have it. My brother is a pharmacist - so he medicates with pharmaceuticals -but I had such little success in migraine management with pharmaceuticals that I did not want another drug added to my life at that time. My iron and ferritin were low so I increased my iron intake - and did some reading about iron and RLS. It helped a bit. Then, by some serendipitous event I stumbled onto the migraine-magnesium connection -and not only have my crippling migraines vanished, many other things improved - like the RLS. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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