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[Guest guest]

YUP! It was me...(see below).

Date: Thu Sep 18, 2003 2:39 pmSubject: Re: Re: Need Advice..please

Ginger,

Thank you for the information. I did call BC/BS and they told me exactly what you did....yes, it's covered, submitted to the state, etc.

I just called Dr. Bonaventura's office and they aren't seeing any more new patients, only for infertility. I also called Dr. Moodley's office and they said that they aren't familiar with abdominal cerclages...but she took a message for the doctor to call me back.

<moving on down the list>

Anyone have any other suggestions? I guess I'll start with a general radius outside of Michigan and move out slowly.

Chele

[Guest guest]

An opening is left because things must come out. My c/s was scheduled for 38wks but delivered at 35.5wks.Love, P.

"Brayden Austin" 06/02/03 }}Angel {{ (14wks) 6/12/00 }}Angel Trustin{{ (18wks) 7/17/02

>From: "nicoleguillory2001"

>Reply-To: Abbyloopers >To: Abbyloopers >Subject: (unknown) >Date: Fri, 07 Nov 2003 17:14:22 -0000 > Concerned that messages may bounce because your Hotmail account is over limit? Get Hotmail Extra Storage!

Generally after having the ab at about what weeks have most of you

had the doctors schedule your c/s. I know that can't go the whole

42 weeks that doesn't seem wise to me. This being if you don't go

into labor and force them to do the c/s. Just wondering. And those

of you who have had the ab and delivered successfully was there any

difference in your monthly cycles after? I know they live it in and

it is almost sewn shut so I was wondering if if changed that at all

more pain or less flow like that.

[Guest guest]

An opening is left because things must come out. My c/s was scheduled for 38wks but delivered at 35.5wks.Love, P.

"Brayden Austin" 06/02/03 }}Angel {{ (14wks) 6/12/00 }}Angel Trustin{{ (18wks) 7/17/02

>From: "nicoleguillory2001"

>Reply-To: Abbyloopers >To: Abbyloopers >Subject: (unknown) >Date: Fri, 07 Nov 2003 17:14:22 -0000 > Concerned that messages may bounce because your Hotmail account is over limit? Get Hotmail Extra Storage!

Generally after having the ab at about what weeks have most of you

had the doctors schedule your c/s. I know that can't go the whole

42 weeks that doesn't seem wise to me. This being if you don't go

into labor and force them to do the c/s. Just wondering. And those

of you who have had the ab and delivered successfully was there any

difference in your monthly cycles after? I know they live it in and

it is almost sewn shut so I was wondering if if changed that at all

more pain or less flow like that.

[Guest guest]

I am sorry you are having a difficult day and you are right. People just don't understand or care. I am happy you are recognizing your children's "birthdays".

I hope you have a beautiful day honoring their memory.Love, P. "Brayden Austin" 06/02/03 }}Angel {{ (14wks) 6/12/00 }}Angel Trustin{{ (18wks) 7/17/02

>From: "marieo31"

>Reply-To: Abbyloopers >To: Abbyloopers >Subject: (unknown) >Date: Tue, 11 Nov 2003 17:30:30 -0000 > MSN Shopping upgraded for the holidays! Snappier product search...

Today is the Birthday of my twins Edmundo jr and Esperanza. Today

has been very hard for me. I had to work to day and things here have

been very up setting. I work for a phone company and they have

mandated us to work 10 hour of overtime. I switched hour with a

friend to get off early today and they gave me so much trouble

because I told them I would not stay late today. I am finding that

if people have not gone throw the same thing that you have then they

don't care or just don't understand how important it is to celebrate

these days. We let balloons off,light a candle for each of them and

have cake and ice cream. We started this when we lost our 1st son

.It really helps me to honor them on their special day.

[Guest guest]

I am sorry you are having a difficult day and you are right. People just don't understand or care. I am happy you are recognizing your children's "birthdays".

I hope you have a beautiful day honoring their memory.Love, P. "Brayden Austin" 06/02/03 }}Angel {{ (14wks) 6/12/00 }}Angel Trustin{{ (18wks) 7/17/02

>From: "marieo31"

>Reply-To: Abbyloopers >To: Abbyloopers >Subject: (unknown) >Date: Tue, 11 Nov 2003 17:30:30 -0000 > MSN Shopping upgraded for the holidays! Snappier product search...

Today is the Birthday of my twins Edmundo jr and Esperanza. Today

has been very hard for me. I had to work to day and things here have

been very up setting. I work for a phone company and they have

mandated us to work 10 hour of overtime. I switched hour with a

friend to get off early today and they gave me so much trouble

because I told them I would not stay late today. I am finding that

if people have not gone throw the same thing that you have then they

don't care or just don't understand how important it is to celebrate

these days. We let balloons off,light a candle for each of them and

have cake and ice cream. We started this when we lost our 1st son

.It really helps me to honor them on their special day.

[Guest guest]

I am sorry you are having a difficult day and you are right. People just don't understand or care. I am happy you are recognizing your children's "birthdays".

I hope you have a beautiful day honoring their memory.Love, P. "Brayden Austin" 06/02/03 }}Angel {{ (14wks) 6/12/00 }}Angel Trustin{{ (18wks) 7/17/02

>From: "marieo31"

>Reply-To: Abbyloopers >To: Abbyloopers >Subject: (unknown) >Date: Tue, 11 Nov 2003 17:30:30 -0000 > MSN Shopping upgraded for the holidays! Snappier product search...

Today is the Birthday of my twins Edmundo jr and Esperanza. Today

has been very hard for me. I had to work to day and things here have

been very up setting. I work for a phone company and they have

mandated us to work 10 hour of overtime. I switched hour with a

friend to get off early today and they gave me so much trouble

because I told them I would not stay late today. I am finding that

if people have not gone throw the same thing that you have then they

don't care or just don't understand how important it is to celebrate

these days. We let balloons off,light a candle for each of them and

have cake and ice cream. We started this when we lost our 1st son

.It really helps me to honor them on their special day.

[Guest guest]

We let balloons off,light a candle for each of them and have cake and ice cream. We started this when we lost our 1st son .It really helps me to honor them on their special day.

That sounds like a wonderful tradition. In the past, we have done the cake and ice cream thing too...

I think it's important to remember our children in these ways...whatever helps you get through it. I'm so sorry you are hurting today.

Thinking of you,

Hugs,

Chele

[Guest guest]

Thank you so much for your kind words

[Guest guest]

Thank you so much for your kind words

[Guest guest]

Thanx, Annie. I really appreciate that.

Smooches

(unknown)

Hi Smooches, it was heartwarming reading your post, especially your

happiness at your new improved bite. I also am very happy with my

bite so i understand your gratitude. Take care,

Annie

In orthognathicsurgerysupport , " johnetta myers "

wrote:

> Hey People,

>

> I just had my third post-op appt today. It went pretty well...sort

of. Parts of it were pretty painful and I left there feeling like my

face was twice as swollen as it was when I arrived...but I felt

great! Quick explanation...

>

> My OS removed my splint and cleaned it and let me brush my teeth

thoroughly for the first time in " forever " . (You may or may not

recall, I'm a hygiene fanatic.) Anyway, she also removed all the

remaining stitches...as a matter of fact, she was replacing the

splint as her assistant was removing the stitches. There was so much

pulling and tugging in my mouth that I thought my lips were being

ripped apart through a massive tug of war. Then, the assistant went

to clip a stitch and I think he clipped a lip instead. Ooouch! So

my OS took over. My face felt as if it had doubled in size. She

says everything looks really good so now I don't have to go back for

two weeks (I was going every week) and I only have to wear my bands

at night when I sleep.

>

> Why do I feel so good even in pain? This is something that only

my " orthognathic family " can REEEALLY understand. Well, when I was

brushing my teeth, after I rinsed, I took a sneak preview at my

mouth. For the first time in my 42 years, my teeth are straight with

a slight, but perfect overbite that should have been there all

along...with both midlines in the middle. I've NEVER had that

before...AND IT IS ABSOLUTELY BEAUTIFUL!! Even my OS is impressed

with her own handiwork. :-) I still have a slight open bite, but

that's for the ortho to tweak and by the way it looks, it probably

won't take long to adjust. As a matter of fact, I wouldn't complain

if he didn't tweak it. I LOVE IT!!!

>

> Smooches

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

i went to this guy arthur elias... on park ave.... but david behrman..ny

hospital and gary ruth ( central park west ) are supposed to be good...

[Guest guest]

I can totally relate! Mine is on the 2nd of february and im am sooo

nervous!!! Any 1 have any tips on how to not be soo nervous.

Many Thanks

[Guest guest]

Hey ,

I belive your Yahoo name has the answer to staying

calm " Bacardi " ...just kidding. Me and you are surgery buddies because

mine is on Feb 2nd too.

Just try not to think about it all of the time and relax. I feel well

prepared and I hardy think about it. I'm sure that may change come

next week...ha!

Take care,

> I can totally relate! Mine is on the 2nd of february and im am sooo

> nervous!!! Any 1 have any tips on how to not be soo nervous.

> Many Thanks

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Hi Soon-To-Be-Postoppers,

It is entirely normal to be scared, concerned, apprehensive before

surgery. ly, I was a nervous wreck before " the works " (upper,

lower, genio). However, some tips to help you in these final pre-op

days. Do keep busy. Keep your mind occupied. I know this isn't

easy! Also, be prepared. The better prepared you are for the early

postop days, the better your recovery will be. Have your supplies

on hand. Have support folks lined up. I also found it comforting

to treat myself to a little something special to come home to after

surgery ... some nice down pillows to rest my beat-up head and it

was nice to see/feel them when I got home. Spend some quality time

with your family and friends. I found that going to the movies was

easier to get my mind off of the upcoming surgery than reading a

book, where my mind would wander. I also took a few days off from

work prior to surgery to spend time with my toddler and husband as I

knew I wouldn't be much fun for the first couple weeks postop. And

lastly, do treat yourself to your most favorite crunchy foods before

surgery. It will help you not miss them so much while you are

recovering.

I know the above won't take your mind off of your upcoming surgeries

completely but it may help to pass some of the time. I found that

just preparing and getting my supplies kept me busy!

Good luck to you!

Irish!

> > I can totally relate! Mine is on the 2nd of february and im am

sooo

> > nervous!!! Any 1 have any tips on how to not be soo nervous.

> > Many Thanks

> >

> >

> >

> >

[Guest guest]

Hi Soon-To-Be-Postoppers,

It is entirely normal to be scared, concerned, apprehensive before

surgery. ly, I was a nervous wreck before " the works " (upper,

lower, genio). However, some tips to help you in these final pre-op

days. Do keep busy. Keep your mind occupied. I know this isn't

easy! Also, be prepared. The better prepared you are for the early

postop days, the better your recovery will be. Have your supplies

on hand. Have support folks lined up. I also found it comforting

to treat myself to a little something special to come home to after

surgery ... some nice down pillows to rest my beat-up head and it

was nice to see/feel them when I got home. Spend some quality time

with your family and friends. I found that going to the movies was

easier to get my mind off of the upcoming surgery than reading a

book, where my mind would wander. I also took a few days off from

work prior to surgery to spend time with my toddler and husband as I

knew I wouldn't be much fun for the first couple weeks postop. And

lastly, do treat yourself to your most favorite crunchy foods before

surgery. It will help you not miss them so much while you are

recovering.

I know the above won't take your mind off of your upcoming surgeries

completely but it may help to pass some of the time. I found that

just preparing and getting my supplies kept me busy!

Good luck to you!

Irish!

> > I can totally relate! Mine is on the 2nd of february and im am

sooo

> > nervous!!! Any 1 have any tips on how to not be soo nervous.

> > Many Thanks

> >

> >

> >

> >

[Guest guest]

Hi Soon-To-Be-Postoppers,

It is entirely normal to be scared, concerned, apprehensive before

surgery. ly, I was a nervous wreck before " the works " (upper,

lower, genio). However, some tips to help you in these final pre-op

days. Do keep busy. Keep your mind occupied. I know this isn't

easy! Also, be prepared. The better prepared you are for the early

postop days, the better your recovery will be. Have your supplies

on hand. Have support folks lined up. I also found it comforting

to treat myself to a little something special to come home to after

surgery ... some nice down pillows to rest my beat-up head and it

was nice to see/feel them when I got home. Spend some quality time

with your family and friends. I found that going to the movies was

easier to get my mind off of the upcoming surgery than reading a

book, where my mind would wander. I also took a few days off from

work prior to surgery to spend time with my toddler and husband as I

knew I wouldn't be much fun for the first couple weeks postop. And

lastly, do treat yourself to your most favorite crunchy foods before

surgery. It will help you not miss them so much while you are

recovering.

I know the above won't take your mind off of your upcoming surgeries

completely but it may help to pass some of the time. I found that

just preparing and getting my supplies kept me busy!

Good luck to you!

Irish!

> > I can totally relate! Mine is on the 2nd of february and im am

sooo

> > nervous!!! Any 1 have any tips on how to not be soo nervous.

> > Many Thanks

> >

> >

> >

> >

[Guest guest]

YES I am. Everyday I look at the calandar and countdown...Its horrible!!! I

keep telling the baby to hurry...But it's subbron! spelling off a little

>

>Reply-To: OSSG-pregnant

>To: OSSG-pregnant

>Subject: Re: (unknown)

>Date: Sat, 7 Feb 2004 00:08:40 -0800 (PST)

>

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[Guest guest]

I am so glad that things are going so well with e and the baby. That is

wonderful news.

HUGS, ROBIN, NY

Age- 41

Due Date- #4 July 27th, 2004

OPEN RNY

10-18-02

378/246/170???

DR.EDWARD HIXSON

SARANAC LAKE, NY

Mom to:

&

7 1/2 year twin boys and

Madison age 5

Miscarraige August 2001

Miscarraige August 2003

Married to Pup:

15 years

[Guest guest]

S.

You have major prayers going up from me sweetie!!!

Axelrod

(unknown)

Hello guys,I know there are a few 's in this group so I will go

by S. I posted several weeks ago for the first time. I am about

7 wks 3 days. This is my secong pg. I lost twins Oct 2002. I have

had GB surgery 6/2003. I have pcos, but conceived naturally after 2

IVF cycles. I had my first US a week ago last tuesday. The doctor

said the heartbeat was slow,not where it should be. He wants to

repeat it again tomorrow. He is optimistic stating he has seen many

times where the heartbeat started to pick up after a few weeks. i am

nervous, I admit. Please pray for my child and a great US tomorrow.

Has anyone else had this experience.

Thanks

S

[Guest guest]

S.

You have major prayers going up from me sweetie!!!

Axelrod

(unknown)

Hello guys,I know there are a few 's in this group so I will go

by S. I posted several weeks ago for the first time. I am about

7 wks 3 days. This is my secong pg. I lost twins Oct 2002. I have

had GB surgery 6/2003. I have pcos, but conceived naturally after 2

IVF cycles. I had my first US a week ago last tuesday. The doctor

said the heartbeat was slow,not where it should be. He wants to

repeat it again tomorrow. He is optimistic stating he has seen many

times where the heartbeat started to pick up after a few weeks. i am

nervous, I admit. Please pray for my child and a great US tomorrow.

Has anyone else had this experience.

Thanks

S

[Guest guest]

Hi there:

After the milkshakes and " all things liquid " - and after I was unbanded

- I started eating oatmeal, mashed potatoes, squash - all things really

soft. Then I upgraded to pasta, baked beans, meatloaf, tuna, salmon

and other fish - still softer foods. One day I craved a big Mac so

badly I bought one and put it in a food processor and ate it. It was

all mashed but it tasted great.

I haven't progressed much past that - I'm 7 weeks post op today. I had

only lower jaw (pushed back) and a genioplasty. My sense is that it

might be a few weeks before you can eat fries comfortably - at least 3

- 4 weeks. Hope this helps.

Greta

---

> Hi, I'm , from PEI, Canada. I'm 17 years old..and I just had jaw 

> surgery on my upper and lower jaws..and I'm two weeks post-op. I

> found there was no pain to it at all..I just find it very annoying

> and I get very frustrated very easily..I'm starving..like I'm so sick

> of soup and milkshakes ..it's not funny..I'm really picky and won't

> eat anything blended because just the look turns my stomach..My

> orthadontist said it's only 4 weeks..not 6...and then I get 2 little

> wires in my mouth..I'm just wondering what I'll most likely be able

> to eat after my mouth is unwired..mostly soft foods eh? Would I be

> able to eat fries and stuff..what kinds of foods? I just can't wait

> to eat again..I lost 14lbs..I'm down to 128..but I'm tall also..so I

> like my weight but I need food! haha..so anyone who has gotten it

> done ..I'd appreciate it so much if you could reply to me about your

> surgery and what you ate after etc etc..thanks a lot:)

>

>

[Guest guest]

Hi there:

After the milkshakes and " all things liquid " - and after I was unbanded

- I started eating oatmeal, mashed potatoes, squash - all things really

soft. Then I upgraded to pasta, baked beans, meatloaf, tuna, salmon

and other fish - still softer foods. One day I craved a big Mac so

badly I bought one and put it in a food processor and ate it. It was

all mashed but it tasted great.

I haven't progressed much past that - I'm 7 weeks post op today. I had

only lower jaw (pushed back) and a genioplasty. My sense is that it

might be a few weeks before you can eat fries comfortably - at least 3

- 4 weeks. Hope this helps.

Greta

---

> Hi, I'm , from PEI, Canada. I'm 17 years old..and I just had jaw 

> surgery on my upper and lower jaws..and I'm two weeks post-op. I

> found there was no pain to it at all..I just find it very annoying

> and I get very frustrated very easily..I'm starving..like I'm so sick

> of soup and milkshakes ..it's not funny..I'm really picky and won't

> eat anything blended because just the look turns my stomach..My

> orthadontist said it's only 4 weeks..not 6...and then I get 2 little

> wires in my mouth..I'm just wondering what I'll most likely be able

> to eat after my mouth is unwired..mostly soft foods eh? Would I be

> able to eat fries and stuff..what kinds of foods? I just can't wait

> to eat again..I lost 14lbs..I'm down to 128..but I'm tall also..so I

> like my weight but I need food! haha..so anyone who has gotten it

> done ..I'd appreciate it so much if you could reply to me about your

> surgery and what you ate after etc etc..thanks a lot:)

>

>

[Guest guest]

Hi there:

After the milkshakes and " all things liquid " - and after I was unbanded

- I started eating oatmeal, mashed potatoes, squash - all things really

soft. Then I upgraded to pasta, baked beans, meatloaf, tuna, salmon

and other fish - still softer foods. One day I craved a big Mac so

badly I bought one and put it in a food processor and ate it. It was

all mashed but it tasted great.

I haven't progressed much past that - I'm 7 weeks post op today. I had

only lower jaw (pushed back) and a genioplasty. My sense is that it

might be a few weeks before you can eat fries comfortably - at least 3

- 4 weeks. Hope this helps.

Greta

---

> Hi, I'm , from PEI, Canada. I'm 17 years old..and I just had jaw 

> surgery on my upper and lower jaws..and I'm two weeks post-op. I

> found there was no pain to it at all..I just find it very annoying

> and I get very frustrated very easily..I'm starving..like I'm so sick

> of soup and milkshakes ..it's not funny..I'm really picky and won't

> eat anything blended because just the look turns my stomach..My

> orthadontist said it's only 4 weeks..not 6...and then I get 2 little

> wires in my mouth..I'm just wondering what I'll most likely be able

> to eat after my mouth is unwired..mostly soft foods eh? Would I be

> able to eat fries and stuff..what kinds of foods? I just can't wait

> to eat again..I lost 14lbs..I'm down to 128..but I'm tall also..so I

> like my weight but I need food! haha..so anyone who has gotten it

> done ..I'd appreciate it so much if you could reply to me about your

> surgery and what you ate after etc etc..thanks a lot:)

>

>

[Guest guest]

Susie

I’m due tomorrow morning and it’s still cloudy & wet. We’ll see what the

weather forecast is for tomorrow. I’ll let you know tomorrow evening when I

came back.

Regards

Dan

* +44 (0)7974 981-407

* +44 (0)20 8501-2573

@ dan.milosevic@...

_____

From: susettejk

Sent: 28 April 2004 14:05

To: surfacehippy

Subject: (unknown)

>

> Hi all,

> Here are some articles from the April 2004 issue of the Arthritis

Today magazine (issued by ARC †" Arthritis Research Campaign †" of

UK; see www.arc.org.uk http://www.arc.org.uk/> ):

> http://www.arc.org.uk/newsviews/press/feb2004/codliver.htm

headlined Cod liver oil shown to be effective in slowing down joint

destruction

> http://www.arc.org.uk/newsviews/press/h0667.htm - headlined Bristol

tissue engineering experts move closer to radical osteoarthritis

treatment

> http://www.arc.org.uk/newsviews/hints/compfood.htm - read the

second letter (from top) headed The wonders of noni juice (WHAT IS

NONI JUICE???); I also liked a letter headed Try Epsom glauber salts,

and the one titled Gin and raisins by a women suffering from

psoriatic arthritis (I wouldn’t mind a cure which involved gin

although an olive would be preferable to raisins)

> http://www.arc.org.uk/newsviews/arctdy/124/hipresurfacing.htm -

this article with the headline Hip op offers more choice is all about

resurfacing

> I picked up this magazine at the Physiotherapy Clinic’s waiting

room and found it full of interesting information about arthritis-

related conditions. The web site is even better.

> Regards

> Dan

> 3 +44 (0)7974 981-407

> * +44 (0)20 8501-2573

> @ dan.milosevic@i...

> * 1A Cypress Grove

> Hainault

> ILFORD

> Essex

> IG6 3AT

> United Kingdom

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Hi Jacks,

Relax my dear............. at the point you could do real harm you will be

too sore to get into too much trouble........ i.e. remember you have a scar

and other bits that have been badly mistreated and so lifting the leg around

and doing the light fandango either in the ward or first few weeks at home

isn't really were you will be coming from............. if you want to move

at all much you will be doing better than the rest of us.......... shuffling

to the shower and wandering gingerly up and down the corridors is about all

you will want to do for many days..........

Being young you body will heal pretty quickly and this will mean that even

if you pass these magical points early on there is little chance you will do

much harm.........i.e. the resurface device is pretty good on the

dislocation factor rating........... I suspect you would have to actually

fall at a nasty angle to get it to come undone if you have fairly normal

muscles around it post op....... I had virtually none and it wasn't an

issue...........but then I couldn't look like bending to 90 deg or crossing

my legs so I was safer that way than most........

Now is the time to try hard to stop the stress for that depletes the immune

system, pamper yourself and do things like make preparations for any things

like food, equipment etc you may need after the 21st..........You will

cope.........remember even old dear with fragile bodies have THR's every day

of the week and cope..........

Edith LBHR Dr. L Walter Syd Aust 8/02

> Has anyone got any info / tips on the recovery from a resurf? I'm

> 25, had CDH in my right hip which was detected late and now have a

> very damaged, painful joint with very little cartilage left. Got a

> date for op - 21 July and I'm quite nervous.

>

> Was it difficult to remember and abide by all the dos and donts

> during recovery? E.g don't twist or lean forward past 90 degrees to

> legs, don't cross legs, don't let operated leg pass the mid line

> etc! I'm worried that I will forget! How was the physio? When were

> you able to return to work? How did you find using a bath

> board, raised chair etc? IS IT ALL WORTH IT????!!!

>

> Would love to hear from anyone with advice on these!

>

> Jacks