cheating?

[Guest guest]

I buy ground turkey and ground beef at the health food store. I

sometimes buy the 's Lean ground beef from the regular store.

I get regular chicken (I'd rather not, but cannot afford organic

chicken. I looked at it again last night and it's 6.99 a pound here.)

I get the Perdue Farms chicken. It just has water in it. No broth.

For turkey, once in a while, the store has fresh turkey with nothing

in it. At thanksgiving a lot of places will order fresh turkeys for

customers.

We don't eat pork. So, I can't help you with that one, but I believe

that organic pork can be found. All of the pork in our regular stores

have been treated with nitrates or other ingredients.

Jody

mom to -7 and -9

SCD 1/03

[Guest guest]

I buy ground turkey and ground beef at the health food store. I

sometimes buy the 's Lean ground beef from the regular store.

I get regular chicken (I'd rather not, but cannot afford organic

chicken. I looked at it again last night and it's 6.99 a pound here.)

I get the Perdue Farms chicken. It just has water in it. No broth.

For turkey, once in a while, the store has fresh turkey with nothing

in it. At thanksgiving a lot of places will order fresh turkeys for

customers.

We don't eat pork. So, I can't help you with that one, but I believe

that organic pork can be found. All of the pork in our regular stores

have been treated with nitrates or other ingredients.

Jody

mom to -7 and -9

SCD 1/03

[Guest guest]

I buy ground turkey and ground beef at the health food store. I

sometimes buy the 's Lean ground beef from the regular store.

I get regular chicken (I'd rather not, but cannot afford organic

chicken. I looked at it again last night and it's 6.99 a pound here.)

I get the Perdue Farms chicken. It just has water in it. No broth.

For turkey, once in a while, the store has fresh turkey with nothing

in it. At thanksgiving a lot of places will order fresh turkeys for

customers.

We don't eat pork. So, I can't help you with that one, but I believe

that organic pork can be found. All of the pork in our regular stores

have been treated with nitrates or other ingredients.

Jody

mom to -7 and -9

SCD 1/03

[Guest guest]

With the history of an allergic child, I would not eat any nuts if the

child is still nursing.

Jody

mom to -7 and -9

SCD 1/03

[Guest guest]

With the history of an allergic child, I would not eat any nuts if the

child is still nursing.

Jody

mom to -7 and -9

SCD 1/03

[Guest guest]

With the history of an allergic child, I would not eat any nuts if the

child is still nursing.

Jody

mom to -7 and -9

SCD 1/03

[Guest guest]

Thanks Jody, Just posted back to Suzanne about STOPPING peanut butter

right now! Wondering about the almond flour though . . .

>

> With the history of an allergic child, I would not eat any nuts if

the

> child is still nursing.

>

>

> Jody

> mom to -7 and -9

> SCD 1/03

>

[Guest guest]

Thanks Jody, Just posted back to Suzanne about STOPPING peanut butter

right now! Wondering about the almond flour though . . .

>

> With the history of an allergic child, I would not eat any nuts if

the

> child is still nursing.

>

>

> Jody

> mom to -7 and -9

> SCD 1/03

>

[Guest guest]

Thanks Jody, Just posted back to Suzanne about STOPPING peanut butter

right now! Wondering about the almond flour though . . .

>

> With the history of an allergic child, I would not eat any nuts if

the

> child is still nursing.

>

>

> Jody

> mom to -7 and -9

> SCD 1/03

>

[Guest guest]

Ground buffalo at Kroger

Ground lamb at Kroger

Ground grass-fed organic beef at health food store

Ground ostrich and elk from Blackwing Meats online

Most health food stores and many grocery stores carry " natural "

brands of chicken or turkey (and occasionally pork or beef) with no

additives. You just need to read the labels. You need to search a

little bit and read labels religiously. And be careful. When our

grocer carried store-packaged pork, the cuts had solution added,,

but the store-ground pork was not labeled that solution had been

added. I was suspicious, since both meats would have come from the

same animals, and sure enough when I asked the butcher whether the

ground pork was free of solution he said " Oh no, we just didn't

bother to label the package. The ground pork comes from the [X] cut,

and it does have solution in it. " So .... use caution and always

question when it seems too good to be true.

Suzanne

> > >

> > > I'd be afraid of your Butterball turkey too.

> > > Last time I tried to find a turkey with no added ingredients,

I

> was

> > > not able to do so in a regular grocery store.

> > >

> > > We had duck for Thanksgiving.

> > >

> > > I'd read your Butterball label very carefully. My bet is that

> it says

> > > that it's in " broth " or a " solution " .

> > >

> > >

> > And injected with margarine.

> >

> > Carol F.

> >

>

[Guest guest]

Ground buffalo at Kroger

Ground lamb at Kroger

Ground grass-fed organic beef at health food store

Ground ostrich and elk from Blackwing Meats online

Most health food stores and many grocery stores carry " natural "

brands of chicken or turkey (and occasionally pork or beef) with no

additives. You just need to read the labels. You need to search a

little bit and read labels religiously. And be careful. When our

grocer carried store-packaged pork, the cuts had solution added,,

but the store-ground pork was not labeled that solution had been

added. I was suspicious, since both meats would have come from the

same animals, and sure enough when I asked the butcher whether the

ground pork was free of solution he said " Oh no, we just didn't

bother to label the package. The ground pork comes from the [X] cut,

and it does have solution in it. " So .... use caution and always

question when it seems too good to be true.

Suzanne

> > >

> > > I'd be afraid of your Butterball turkey too.

> > > Last time I tried to find a turkey with no added ingredients,

I

> was

> > > not able to do so in a regular grocery store.

> > >

> > > We had duck for Thanksgiving.

> > >

> > > I'd read your Butterball label very carefully. My bet is that

> it says

> > > that it's in " broth " or a " solution " .

> > >

> > >

> > And injected with margarine.

> >

> > Carol F.

> >

>

[Guest guest]

Ground buffalo at Kroger

Ground lamb at Kroger

Ground grass-fed organic beef at health food store

Ground ostrich and elk from Blackwing Meats online

Most health food stores and many grocery stores carry " natural "

brands of chicken or turkey (and occasionally pork or beef) with no

additives. You just need to read the labels. You need to search a

little bit and read labels religiously. And be careful. When our

grocer carried store-packaged pork, the cuts had solution added,,

but the store-ground pork was not labeled that solution had been

added. I was suspicious, since both meats would have come from the

same animals, and sure enough when I asked the butcher whether the

ground pork was free of solution he said " Oh no, we just didn't

bother to label the package. The ground pork comes from the [X] cut,

and it does have solution in it. " So .... use caution and always

question when it seems too good to be true.

Suzanne

> > >

> > > I'd be afraid of your Butterball turkey too.

> > > Last time I tried to find a turkey with no added ingredients,

I

> was

> > > not able to do so in a regular grocery store.

> > >

> > > We had duck for Thanksgiving.

> > >

> > > I'd read your Butterball label very carefully. My bet is that

> it says

> > > that it's in " broth " or a " solution " .

> > >

> > >

> > And injected with margarine.

> >

> > Carol F.

> >

>

[Guest guest]

Almonds are nuts.

I would suggest removing them.

My nephew goes into anaphylaxis from peanut and all tree nuts. So, my

history with allergic children may be extreme, but I like to err on

the side of caution.

Jody

mom to -7 and -9

SCD 1/03

[Guest guest]

Almonds are nuts.

I would suggest removing them.

My nephew goes into anaphylaxis from peanut and all tree nuts. So, my

history with allergic children may be extreme, but I like to err on

the side of caution.

Jody

mom to -7 and -9

SCD 1/03

[Guest guest]

Almonds are nuts.

I would suggest removing them.

My nephew goes into anaphylaxis from peanut and all tree nuts. So, my

history with allergic children may be extreme, but I like to err on

the side of caution.

Jody

mom to -7 and -9

SCD 1/03

[Guest guest]

ALmond is a tree-nut. Same advice applies as to peanuts. Again, this

is not SCD advice, and I recognize this is an SCD board. But it is

sound medical advice for an allergic kid.

Seeds that have lower-allergen potential include sunflower and

pumpkin seeds, if they are SCD legal (I'm not sure on this).

Suzanne

> > >

> > > Hi everyone,

> > > I've been on the scd for almost a month without any cheating

at

> > all &

> > > I'm trying to pay strict attention to hidden ingredients, etc.

> > >

> > > Well, yesterday at noon I had A bite - only one - of a peice

of

> > cheese

> > > pizza and my daughter was up all night last night and this

> morning

> > has

> > > those tell-tale red bumps under her eye this morning!

> > >

> > > I really don't have to ask but I will anyway . . . is this

> because

> > of

> > > that one bite?????

> > >

> > > Now I feel awful!

> > >

> > > ~Terri

> > > scd 1mo.

> > >

> >

>

[Guest guest]

ALmond is a tree-nut. Same advice applies as to peanuts. Again, this

is not SCD advice, and I recognize this is an SCD board. But it is

sound medical advice for an allergic kid.

Seeds that have lower-allergen potential include sunflower and

pumpkin seeds, if they are SCD legal (I'm not sure on this).

Suzanne

> > >

> > > Hi everyone,

> > > I've been on the scd for almost a month without any cheating

at

> > all &

> > > I'm trying to pay strict attention to hidden ingredients, etc.

> > >

> > > Well, yesterday at noon I had A bite - only one - of a peice

of

> > cheese

> > > pizza and my daughter was up all night last night and this

> morning

> > has

> > > those tell-tale red bumps under her eye this morning!

> > >

> > > I really don't have to ask but I will anyway . . . is this

> because

> > of

> > > that one bite?????

> > >

> > > Now I feel awful!

> > >

> > > ~Terri

> > > scd 1mo.

> > >

> >

>

[Guest guest]

ALmond is a tree-nut. Same advice applies as to peanuts. Again, this

is not SCD advice, and I recognize this is an SCD board. But it is

sound medical advice for an allergic kid.

Seeds that have lower-allergen potential include sunflower and

pumpkin seeds, if they are SCD legal (I'm not sure on this).

Suzanne

> > >

> > > Hi everyone,

> > > I've been on the scd for almost a month without any cheating

at

> > all &

> > > I'm trying to pay strict attention to hidden ingredients, etc.

> > >

> > > Well, yesterday at noon I had A bite - only one - of a peice

of

> > cheese

> > > pizza and my daughter was up all night last night and this

> morning

> > has

> > > those tell-tale red bumps under her eye this morning!

> > >

> > > I really don't have to ask but I will anyway . . . is this

> because

> > of

> > > that one bite?????

> > >

> > > Now I feel awful!

> > >

> > > ~Terri

> > > scd 1mo.

> > >

> >

>

[Guest guest]

Butterball does make an 'all natural' turkey - most of them are NOT though -

you do have to look at the label carefully. It has to be 'minimally

processed' and fresh in the Butterball line.

Robbie

Re: cheating?

> Ughhh. . . .where do you all buy your meats?

>

>

>> >

>> > I'd be afraid of your Butterball turkey too.

>> > Last time I tried to find a turkey with no added ingredients, I

> was

>> > not able to do so in a regular grocery store.

>> >

>> > We had duck for Thanksgiving.

>> >

>> > I'd read your Butterball label very carefully. My bet is that

> it says

>> > that it's in " broth " or a " solution " .

>> >

>> >

>> And injected with margarine.

>>

>> Carol F.

>>

>

>

>

>

>

>

> For information on the Specific Carbohydrate Diet, please read the book

> _Breaking the Vicious Cycle_ by Elaine Gottschall and read the following

> websites:

> http://www.breakingtheviciouscycle.info

> and

> http://www.pecanbread.com

>

>

[Guest guest]

Butterball does make an 'all natural' turkey - most of them are NOT though -

you do have to look at the label carefully. It has to be 'minimally

processed' and fresh in the Butterball line.

Robbie

Re: cheating?

> Ughhh. . . .where do you all buy your meats?

>

>

>> >

>> > I'd be afraid of your Butterball turkey too.

>> > Last time I tried to find a turkey with no added ingredients, I

> was

>> > not able to do so in a regular grocery store.

>> >

>> > We had duck for Thanksgiving.

>> >

>> > I'd read your Butterball label very carefully. My bet is that

> it says

>> > that it's in " broth " or a " solution " .

>> >

>> >

>> And injected with margarine.

>>

>> Carol F.

>>

>

>

>

>

>

>

> For information on the Specific Carbohydrate Diet, please read the book

> _Breaking the Vicious Cycle_ by Elaine Gottschall and read the following

> websites:

> http://www.breakingtheviciouscycle.info

> and

> http://www.pecanbread.com

>

>

[Guest guest]

Butterball does make an 'all natural' turkey - most of them are NOT though -

you do have to look at the label carefully. It has to be 'minimally

processed' and fresh in the Butterball line.

Robbie

Re: cheating?

> Ughhh. . . .where do you all buy your meats?

>

>

>> >

>> > I'd be afraid of your Butterball turkey too.

>> > Last time I tried to find a turkey with no added ingredients, I

> was

>> > not able to do so in a regular grocery store.

>> >

>> > We had duck for Thanksgiving.

>> >

>> > I'd read your Butterball label very carefully. My bet is that

> it says

>> > that it's in " broth " or a " solution " .

>> >

>> >

>> And injected with margarine.

>>

>> Carol F.

>>

>

>

>

>

>

>

> For information on the Specific Carbohydrate Diet, please read the book

> _Breaking the Vicious Cycle_ by Elaine Gottschall and read the following

> websites:

> http://www.breakingtheviciouscycle.info

> and

> http://www.pecanbread.com

>

>

[Guest guest]

>

> I've been nursing a child on a restricted diet for 3 years now -

> he's now a 40 month old preschooler. He had allergies right after

> birth, was allergic to all formulas (Neocate, you name it), and I

> had to relactate along with being on a total elimination diet (2

> months eating 4 foods) to make my milk safe for him and to identify

> what his allergens were.

>

> For much of this period I moderated a food allergy board for babies

> and nursing mothers. I have coached many moms through the various

> stages of elimination diets.

For anyone who wonders about an elimination diet this describes it: (The rest of

the site is

not totally relevant to SCD:

http://www.urologychannel.com/prostate/bph/eliminationdiet.html

" Determining which foods one is sensitive to can be a challenge. One of the most

effective

ways of finding out which foods cause problems is by eliminating the most common

food

sensitivities from the diet and then reintroducing foods one at a time to see

how the body

reacts. A negative reaction means that the person is sensitive to that food and

should

remove it from their diet. This process is called an elimination and challenge

diet: the food

is eliminated from the diet then reintroduced to challenge the body. It is also

referred to

as a hypoallergenic diet. Licensed naturopathic physicians are trained to

monitor

elimination and challenge diets and can provide guidance during the process. "

My own words::

The trouble with elimination diets is that the immune system can preceive danger

where it

doesn't exist and drive you nuts playing hopscotch with your suspected

" allergies. "

Elaine loved to give forth on this subject in her most annoyed voice. And I have

lived it,

thinking I couldn't tolerate one thing or another eg: eggs, nuts, grape juice,

yogurt only to

discover the reactions varied from time to time and were totally inconsistent

except with

foods that are cross reactive with latex allergy and some day I will cautiously

test them

again.

Carol F.

SCD 6 years, celiac

[Guest guest]

>

> I've been nursing a child on a restricted diet for 3 years now -

> he's now a 40 month old preschooler. He had allergies right after

> birth, was allergic to all formulas (Neocate, you name it), and I

> had to relactate along with being on a total elimination diet (2

> months eating 4 foods) to make my milk safe for him and to identify

> what his allergens were.

>

> For much of this period I moderated a food allergy board for babies

> and nursing mothers. I have coached many moms through the various

> stages of elimination diets.

For anyone who wonders about an elimination diet this describes it: (The rest of

the site is

not totally relevant to SCD:

http://www.urologychannel.com/prostate/bph/eliminationdiet.html

" Determining which foods one is sensitive to can be a challenge. One of the most

effective

ways of finding out which foods cause problems is by eliminating the most common

food

sensitivities from the diet and then reintroducing foods one at a time to see

how the body

reacts. A negative reaction means that the person is sensitive to that food and

should

remove it from their diet. This process is called an elimination and challenge

diet: the food

is eliminated from the diet then reintroduced to challenge the body. It is also

referred to

as a hypoallergenic diet. Licensed naturopathic physicians are trained to

monitor

elimination and challenge diets and can provide guidance during the process. "

My own words::

The trouble with elimination diets is that the immune system can preceive danger

where it

doesn't exist and drive you nuts playing hopscotch with your suspected

" allergies. "

Elaine loved to give forth on this subject in her most annoyed voice. And I have

lived it,

thinking I couldn't tolerate one thing or another eg: eggs, nuts, grape juice,

yogurt only to

discover the reactions varied from time to time and were totally inconsistent

except with

foods that are cross reactive with latex allergy and some day I will cautiously

test them

again.

Carol F.

SCD 6 years, celiac

[Guest guest]

>

> I've been nursing a child on a restricted diet for 3 years now -

> he's now a 40 month old preschooler. He had allergies right after

> birth, was allergic to all formulas (Neocate, you name it), and I

> had to relactate along with being on a total elimination diet (2

> months eating 4 foods) to make my milk safe for him and to identify

> what his allergens were.

>

> For much of this period I moderated a food allergy board for babies

> and nursing mothers. I have coached many moms through the various

> stages of elimination diets.

For anyone who wonders about an elimination diet this describes it: (The rest of

the site is

not totally relevant to SCD:

http://www.urologychannel.com/prostate/bph/eliminationdiet.html

" Determining which foods one is sensitive to can be a challenge. One of the most

effective

ways of finding out which foods cause problems is by eliminating the most common

food

sensitivities from the diet and then reintroducing foods one at a time to see

how the body

reacts. A negative reaction means that the person is sensitive to that food and

should

remove it from their diet. This process is called an elimination and challenge

diet: the food

is eliminated from the diet then reintroduced to challenge the body. It is also

referred to

as a hypoallergenic diet. Licensed naturopathic physicians are trained to

monitor

elimination and challenge diets and can provide guidance during the process. "

My own words::

The trouble with elimination diets is that the immune system can preceive danger

where it

doesn't exist and drive you nuts playing hopscotch with your suspected

" allergies. "

Elaine loved to give forth on this subject in her most annoyed voice. And I have

lived it,

thinking I couldn't tolerate one thing or another eg: eggs, nuts, grape juice,

yogurt only to

discover the reactions varied from time to time and were totally inconsistent

except with

foods that are cross reactive with latex allergy and some day I will cautiously

test them

again.

Carol F.

SCD 6 years, celiac

[Guest guest]

>

> Ground buffalo at Kroger

> Ground lamb at Kroger

> Ground grass-fed organic beef at health food store

> Ground ostrich and elk from Blackwing Meats online

>

> Most health food stores and many grocery stores carry " natural "

> brands of chicken or turkey (and occasionally pork or beef) with no

> additives.

Many breeders feed young chickens food with arsenic in it. Whole Foods' chicken

is not fed

this way. I react to a lot of chicken including some Kosher stuff, but not the

ones from WF.

As for grass fed animals, there is a lady who follows SCD on the Yahoo Healing

Crow list

serve who is obessesive about grass fed beef.

Elaine wasn't and said just following SCD prooerly first was a good idea and

sorting out all

the sidebar iissues was secondary. This is not to say she didn't have respect

for organic

food as she did, but said it was not mandatory on SCD.

Carol F.

SCD 6 years, celiac