cheating?

[Guest guest]

>

> Suzanne, don't mind me for saying this, but $60,000, that's extortion! For

this money,

you could be going to school to become an ABA specialist! I swear it, having a

diagnosis of

autism basically waves red flags in the medical/therapist community to stick it

to you.

>

Summer I was afraid to speak up but you did it for me. ABA although not to be

discounted,

is behavioral training and does not address the cause (or a suspected cause) of

the

problem, Last year I cried as I watched a documentary on a major network about a

family

that went bankrupt and the parents divorced because all their money went to ABA.

My

objection was they never heard of or tried SCD. I tried to contact them but

never got a

response.

A one month SCD trial might have given them positive results and hopes for the

future.

Worst of all the ABA rewards were candy and cookies.

Carol F.

SCD 6 years, celiac

[Guest guest]

There are some of us that have little ones that we needed to test, have

surgeries etc. Those that did not have a choice due to being so bad off in

the beginning. I had my daughter in ABA for 2 years and nothing. That's when

I put her on SCD and she is learning wonderfully now. I learned of some of

my choices after the fact also. I appreciate sharing experience. It gives

more choices in the long run! Jenn & K 9 months SCD

Re: cheating?

>

>

>

> > " Convenience food " deserves a better name. How about " saving mommy

> > from the loony bin " food?

> >

> > Off to cook,

> > Suzanne

> >

> Suzanne,

> I am going to just run the idea by you once more of hiring someone

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

There are some of us that have little ones that we needed to test, have

surgeries etc. Those that did not have a choice due to being so bad off in

the beginning. I had my daughter in ABA for 2 years and nothing. That's when

I put her on SCD and she is learning wonderfully now. I learned of some of

my choices after the fact also. I appreciate sharing experience. It gives

more choices in the long run! Jenn & K 9 months SCD

Re: cheating?

>

>

>

> > " Convenience food " deserves a better name. How about " saving mommy

> > from the loony bin " food?

> >

> > Off to cook,

> > Suzanne

> >

> Suzanne,

> I am going to just run the idea by you once more of hiring someone

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

There are some of us that have little ones that we needed to test, have

surgeries etc. Those that did not have a choice due to being so bad off in

the beginning. I had my daughter in ABA for 2 years and nothing. That's when

I put her on SCD and she is learning wonderfully now. I learned of some of

my choices after the fact also. I appreciate sharing experience. It gives

more choices in the long run! Jenn & K 9 months SCD

Re: cheating?

>

>

>

> > " Convenience food " deserves a better name. How about " saving mommy

> > from the loony bin " food?

> >

> > Off to cook,

> > Suzanne

> >

> Suzanne,

> I am going to just run the idea by you once more of hiring someone

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

All of us who have special needs children have to make choices among a myriad of

educational and biomedical methods. I think it's unfair to categorize any of

these as bad choices -- the research will show that there are some kids who are

strong responders to just about every therapy out there. So, it's just as

legitimate for Suzanne to fund an ABA program as it is to try SCD, or GFCF, or

Floortime, or enzymes, or Pivotal Response Training, or whatever. Speaking

personally as a mom of two ASD kids, I think it's not fair to say " you're

wasting your time doing ABA, you should just be doing SCD. " (By the way, I

don't do ABA with mine.) Only time and experimentation will show which therapy

or diet or supplement will make a difference for a particular child. I'd say

most parents spend a lot of time researching the alternatives out there, and

make the choices that make sense for their families -- and they should be

respected for that.

Some of this started with a discussion of convenience foods -- and a statement

that we should quit looking for convenience foods and just cook more. Guess

what? I bet everybody on this diet is already using convenience foods -- you're

using Welch's grape juice instead of squeezing your own grapes, you're using

pre-made butter, you're using Farmer's Cheese instead of making your own, you're

buying canned Dole juice instead of juicing pineapples . . . those of us who

wish there were legal versions of previously-used foods (such as tubs of

applesauce, juice boxes, bags of vegetable chips, etc. etc.) are just looking

for more of the same things. It's not so easy to say " hire somebody to make it

all for you " -- this isn't necessarily feasible if all of your extra funds are

going to speech therapy, OT, vision therapy, etc.

I'm not asking anybody to feel extra sorry for us -- we all deal with our own

stuff -- but I think it would be helpful to be respectful of each others'

situations. Speaking only for myself, the need to make EVERYTHING (as opposed

to a lot of stuff, which I'm already used to from GFCF and Feingold) is just an

added burden that I wish didn't exist -- I'll do it if I have to, but I can

still hope to find pre-made foods that would be SCD legal.

OK, getting off my soapbox now,

Marina

SCD Day 1!!

Re: cheating?

> " Convenience food " deserves a better name. How about " saving mommy

> from the loony bin " food?

>

> Off to cook,

> Suzanne

>

Suzanne,

I am going to just run the idea by you once more of hiring someone

[Guest guest]

All of us who have special needs children have to make choices among a myriad of

educational and biomedical methods. I think it's unfair to categorize any of

these as bad choices -- the research will show that there are some kids who are

strong responders to just about every therapy out there. So, it's just as

legitimate for Suzanne to fund an ABA program as it is to try SCD, or GFCF, or

Floortime, or enzymes, or Pivotal Response Training, or whatever. Speaking

personally as a mom of two ASD kids, I think it's not fair to say " you're

wasting your time doing ABA, you should just be doing SCD. " (By the way, I

don't do ABA with mine.) Only time and experimentation will show which therapy

or diet or supplement will make a difference for a particular child. I'd say

most parents spend a lot of time researching the alternatives out there, and

make the choices that make sense for their families -- and they should be

respected for that.

Some of this started with a discussion of convenience foods -- and a statement

that we should quit looking for convenience foods and just cook more. Guess

what? I bet everybody on this diet is already using convenience foods -- you're

using Welch's grape juice instead of squeezing your own grapes, you're using

pre-made butter, you're using Farmer's Cheese instead of making your own, you're

buying canned Dole juice instead of juicing pineapples . . . those of us who

wish there were legal versions of previously-used foods (such as tubs of

applesauce, juice boxes, bags of vegetable chips, etc. etc.) are just looking

for more of the same things. It's not so easy to say " hire somebody to make it

all for you " -- this isn't necessarily feasible if all of your extra funds are

going to speech therapy, OT, vision therapy, etc.

I'm not asking anybody to feel extra sorry for us -- we all deal with our own

stuff -- but I think it would be helpful to be respectful of each others'

situations. Speaking only for myself, the need to make EVERYTHING (as opposed

to a lot of stuff, which I'm already used to from GFCF and Feingold) is just an

added burden that I wish didn't exist -- I'll do it if I have to, but I can

still hope to find pre-made foods that would be SCD legal.

OK, getting off my soapbox now,

Marina

SCD Day 1!!

Re: cheating?

> " Convenience food " deserves a better name. How about " saving mommy

> from the loony bin " food?

>

> Off to cook,

> Suzanne

>

Suzanne,

I am going to just run the idea by you once more of hiring someone

[Guest guest]

No one was questionning the legitimacy of Suzanne funding an ABA program, and I

am sorry if I came off as having a lack of respect for her choice. $60,000 is

extortion, though. For that fee, one could become a therapist and do this with

their own child. From the sounds of it too, it sounds like Suzanne may have a

lack of choices, not being able to find affordable therapy and respite care.

It is our job as parents to question everything and share ideas, in the

questionning and discussion, no one is labeling anything as bad.

I know that ABA textbooks are available both at the autism research institute

as well as many local college bookstores. Another source of ABA is to recruit on

campus, those working on their masters in specific therapies, and if this person

is able to follow direction from a current ABA specialist, this might work out.

These are just ideas. Families can get torn apart everyday because of all

these issues. From my own experience, any beneficial effects ABA might have had

in therapy were undone by the treats, even if they were only dried raisins. This

is neither saying right or wrong, more sharing my experience and thoughts on the

subject.

I am sorry to offend, it is not my intention, not by any means. Enzymes are

also an important aspect to both my children's progress, both autistic, and I

talk about this frequently in the hope the information may be someone else's

key. After all, trying to correct malabsorption syndromes are not easy, and many

people have not heard of them or had a chance to consider them in the past. In

fact, when I first joined this list, this is where I found out about digestive

enzymes.

Sincerely,

Summer

Marina Derman marinaderman@...> wrote:

All of us who have special needs children have to make choices among a myriad

of educational and biomedical methods. I think it's unfair to categorize any of

these as bad choices -- the research will show that there are some kids who are

strong responders to just about every therapy out there. So, it's just as

legitimate for Suzanne to fund an ABA program as it is to try SCD, or GFCF, or

Floortime, or enzymes, or Pivotal Response Training, or whatever. Speaking

personally as a mom of two ASD kids, I think it's not fair to say " you're

wasting your time doing ABA, you should just be doing SCD. " (By the way, I

don't do ABA with mine.) Only time and experimentation will show which therapy

or diet or supplement will make a difference for a particular child. I'd say

most parents spend a lot of time researching the alternatives out there, and

make the choices that make sense for their families -- and they should be

respected for that.

Some of this started with a discussion of convenience foods -- and a statement

that we should quit looking for convenience foods and just cook more. Guess

what? I bet everybody on this diet is already using convenience foods -- you're

using Welch's grape juice instead of squeezing your own grapes, you're using

pre-made butter, you're using Farmer's Cheese instead of making your own, you're

buying canned Dole juice instead of juicing pineapples . . . those of us who

wish there were legal versions of previously-used foods (such as tubs of

applesauce, juice boxes, bags of vegetable chips, etc. etc.) are just looking

for more of the same things. It's not so easy to say " hire somebody to make it

all for you " -- this isn't necessarily feasible if all of your extra funds are

going to speech therapy, OT, vision therapy, etc.

I'm not asking anybody to feel extra sorry for us -- we all deal with our own

stuff -- but I think it would be helpful to be respectful of each others'

situations. Speaking only for myself, the need to make EVERYTHING (as opposed

to a lot of stuff, which I'm already used to from GFCF and Feingold) is just an

added burden that I wish didn't exist -- I'll do it if I have to, but I can

still hope to find pre-made foods that would be SCD legal.

OK, getting off my soapbox now,

Marina

SCD Day 1!!

Re: cheating?

> " Convenience food " deserves a better name. How about " saving mommy

> from the loony bin " food?

>

> Off to cook,

> Suzanne

>

Suzanne,

I am going to just run the idea by you once more of hiring someone

[Guest guest]

>

> Some of this started with a discussion of convenience foods -- and a statement

that we

should quit looking for convenience foods and just cook more. Guess what? I

bet

everybody on this diet is already using convenience foods -- you're using

Welch's grape

juice instead of squeezing your own grapes, you're using pre-made butter, you're

using

Farmer's Cheese instead of making your own, you're buying canned Dole juice

instead of

juicing pineapples . . . those of us who wish there were legal versions of

previously-used

foods (such as tubs of applesauce, juice boxes, bags of vegetable chips, etc.

etc.) are just

looking for more of the same things. It's not so easy to say " hire somebody to

make it all

for you " -- this isn't necessarily feasible if all of your extra funds are

going to speech

therapy, OT, vision therapy, etc.

>

In order for foods to be approved. somerone has to vist the plant or get

handwritten

letters that the foods comply. It is doubtful that anyone is going into major

manufacturing

of SCD compliant foods. I base my position on reality not on what would be

ideal.

When I went to prepackaged food for weight loss, initially it was a great help

to have it all

prepared, portion controlled etc. It was very costly and not practical to do

indefintely.

Cooking for SCD is differnt thanbefore i started the diet but I certainly didn't

always use

convenience foos at the time.

Sure it would be nice, but who is going to do it? And if someone did, is it

worth their

while?

You do have Digestive Wellness at your disposal for some additional foods you

did not

name.

Carol F.

SCD 6 years, SCD Cooking Classes, celiac

[Guest guest]

>

> Some of this started with a discussion of convenience foods -- and a statement

that we

should quit looking for convenience foods and just cook more. Guess what? I

bet

everybody on this diet is already using convenience foods -- you're using

Welch's grape

juice instead of squeezing your own grapes, you're using pre-made butter, you're

using

Farmer's Cheese instead of making your own, you're buying canned Dole juice

instead of

juicing pineapples . . . those of us who wish there were legal versions of

previously-used

foods (such as tubs of applesauce, juice boxes, bags of vegetable chips, etc.

etc.) are just

looking for more of the same things. It's not so easy to say " hire somebody to

make it all

for you " -- this isn't necessarily feasible if all of your extra funds are

going to speech

therapy, OT, vision therapy, etc.

>

In order for foods to be approved. somerone has to vist the plant or get

handwritten

letters that the foods comply. It is doubtful that anyone is going into major

manufacturing

of SCD compliant foods. I base my position on reality not on what would be

ideal.

When I went to prepackaged food for weight loss, initially it was a great help

to have it all

prepared, portion controlled etc. It was very costly and not practical to do

indefintely.

Cooking for SCD is differnt thanbefore i started the diet but I certainly didn't

always use

convenience foos at the time.

Sure it would be nice, but who is going to do it? And if someone did, is it

worth their

while?

You do have Digestive Wellness at your disposal for some additional foods you

did not

name.

Carol F.

SCD 6 years, SCD Cooking Classes, celiac

[Guest guest]

>

> Some of this started with a discussion of convenience foods -- and a statement

that we

should quit looking for convenience foods and just cook more. Guess what? I

bet

everybody on this diet is already using convenience foods -- you're using

Welch's grape

juice instead of squeezing your own grapes, you're using pre-made butter, you're

using

Farmer's Cheese instead of making your own, you're buying canned Dole juice

instead of

juicing pineapples . . . those of us who wish there were legal versions of

previously-used

foods (such as tubs of applesauce, juice boxes, bags of vegetable chips, etc.

etc.) are just

looking for more of the same things. It's not so easy to say " hire somebody to

make it all

for you " -- this isn't necessarily feasible if all of your extra funds are

going to speech

therapy, OT, vision therapy, etc.

>

In order for foods to be approved. somerone has to vist the plant or get

handwritten

letters that the foods comply. It is doubtful that anyone is going into major

manufacturing

of SCD compliant foods. I base my position on reality not on what would be

ideal.

When I went to prepackaged food for weight loss, initially it was a great help

to have it all

prepared, portion controlled etc. It was very costly and not practical to do

indefintely.

Cooking for SCD is differnt thanbefore i started the diet but I certainly didn't

always use

convenience foos at the time.

Sure it would be nice, but who is going to do it? And if someone did, is it

worth their

while?

You do have Digestive Wellness at your disposal for some additional foods you

did not

name.

Carol F.

SCD 6 years, SCD Cooking Classes, celiac

[Guest guest]

>

>

> Some of this started with a discussion of convenience foods -- and a statement

that we

should quit looking for convenience foods and just cook more.

Would everyone describe the sort of convenience foods you wish existed? Maybe

we can

come up with some short cuts or similar ideas.

(Prior to SCD if I wanted dinner I usually had to broil some meat and cook a

couple of

vegetables, pour some dressing on a ready mixed salad green combo. I still do

that. and

think most people have to at times)

Some food ideas that may suit your convenience:

Elaine convinced me a food processor would be a great help. It certainly is. I

wake up very

early, toss muffin ingredients in it, line a muffin tin with paper baking cups

and 30

minutes later have enough muffins for 10-12 days. While the muffins it's a good

time to

make yogurt

CVheecake also takes little time, dump ingredients in food processor.Pour into a

loaf

panand chill when cooled. Delicious

When you have no SCD bread around roll prosciutto in a long piece of Swiss

cheese and

add a little mustard. keep some hard boiled eggson hand. When I want a dessrt

fast that

isn't baked, Try partly thawed blueberries in a parfait glass adding already

ground pecan

flour on them, some honey and stir, Gooey instant dessert!

For salad, in a hurry throw capers, nuts, crumbled blue cheese into a bowl of

packaged

organic field greens and drizzle on some olive oil. ( I include fresh chopped

garlic)

Want some fast protein at lunch? Drain a can of salmon (or less often) tuna,

add SCD

mayo.

Here's how to get a veggie snack, Cut up beets or squash, in the food processor

spray

with oil, add seasonings and legal herbs and bake until crunchy. It work with

beets,

squash or mushrooms.

I am fortunately able to get legal hotdogs from Big s in Toronto. They are

already

cooked and just need to be in boiling water for a few minutes.

When you want sushi, roll some ginger or avocado in sugar free smoked salmon

and eat

it.

For something like a Good Humor, freeze chunks or slices of ripe banana dredged

in nuts

and a little honey.

When you fancy ice cream, add partly frozen strawberries and a few nuts to

dripped yogurt

and drizzle on honey.

Make crisp crackers by placing small 1 " pieces of hard cheese on parchment paper

and

baking 15 minutes at 350 until they bubble and brown around the edges. Cool and

peel

off the paper.

Stuff dates with softened cheddar cheese for a delicious snack.

Broiling bacon on a pan with a rack doesn't need watching. Set the timer for 10

minutes

and check to see if it's ready.

A tasty baked meat loaf provides a few dinners and is great and portable sliced

cold. Add

SCD ketchup or some mustard. Again, ingredents get tossed into the food

processor then

to a loaf pan and into the oven.

I know these may not all appeal to fussy eaters but some may.

Carol F. SCD 6 years, celliac

[Guest guest]

>

>

> Some of this started with a discussion of convenience foods -- and a statement

that we

should quit looking for convenience foods and just cook more.

Would everyone describe the sort of convenience foods you wish existed? Maybe

we can

come up with some short cuts or similar ideas.

(Prior to SCD if I wanted dinner I usually had to broil some meat and cook a

couple of

vegetables, pour some dressing on a ready mixed salad green combo. I still do

that. and

think most people have to at times)

Some food ideas that may suit your convenience:

Elaine convinced me a food processor would be a great help. It certainly is. I

wake up very

early, toss muffin ingredients in it, line a muffin tin with paper baking cups

and 30

minutes later have enough muffins for 10-12 days. While the muffins it's a good

time to

make yogurt

CVheecake also takes little time, dump ingredients in food processor.Pour into a

loaf

panand chill when cooled. Delicious

When you have no SCD bread around roll prosciutto in a long piece of Swiss

cheese and

add a little mustard. keep some hard boiled eggson hand. When I want a dessrt

fast that

isn't baked, Try partly thawed blueberries in a parfait glass adding already

ground pecan

flour on them, some honey and stir, Gooey instant dessert!

For salad, in a hurry throw capers, nuts, crumbled blue cheese into a bowl of

packaged

organic field greens and drizzle on some olive oil. ( I include fresh chopped

garlic)

Want some fast protein at lunch? Drain a can of salmon (or less often) tuna,

add SCD

mayo.

Here's how to get a veggie snack, Cut up beets or squash, in the food processor

spray

with oil, add seasonings and legal herbs and bake until crunchy. It work with

beets,

squash or mushrooms.

I am fortunately able to get legal hotdogs from Big s in Toronto. They are

already

cooked and just need to be in boiling water for a few minutes.

When you want sushi, roll some ginger or avocado in sugar free smoked salmon

and eat

it.

For something like a Good Humor, freeze chunks or slices of ripe banana dredged

in nuts

and a little honey.

When you fancy ice cream, add partly frozen strawberries and a few nuts to

dripped yogurt

and drizzle on honey.

Make crisp crackers by placing small 1 " pieces of hard cheese on parchment paper

and

baking 15 minutes at 350 until they bubble and brown around the edges. Cool and

peel

off the paper.

Stuff dates with softened cheddar cheese for a delicious snack.

Broiling bacon on a pan with a rack doesn't need watching. Set the timer for 10

minutes

and check to see if it's ready.

A tasty baked meat loaf provides a few dinners and is great and portable sliced

cold. Add

SCD ketchup or some mustard. Again, ingredents get tossed into the food

processor then

to a loaf pan and into the oven.

I know these may not all appeal to fussy eaters but some may.

Carol F. SCD 6 years, celliac

[Guest guest]

>

>

> Some of this started with a discussion of convenience foods -- and a statement

that we

should quit looking for convenience foods and just cook more.

Would everyone describe the sort of convenience foods you wish existed? Maybe

we can

come up with some short cuts or similar ideas.

(Prior to SCD if I wanted dinner I usually had to broil some meat and cook a

couple of

vegetables, pour some dressing on a ready mixed salad green combo. I still do

that. and

think most people have to at times)

Some food ideas that may suit your convenience:

Elaine convinced me a food processor would be a great help. It certainly is. I

wake up very

early, toss muffin ingredients in it, line a muffin tin with paper baking cups

and 30

minutes later have enough muffins for 10-12 days. While the muffins it's a good

time to

make yogurt

CVheecake also takes little time, dump ingredients in food processor.Pour into a

loaf

panand chill when cooled. Delicious

When you have no SCD bread around roll prosciutto in a long piece of Swiss

cheese and

add a little mustard. keep some hard boiled eggson hand. When I want a dessrt

fast that

isn't baked, Try partly thawed blueberries in a parfait glass adding already

ground pecan

flour on them, some honey and stir, Gooey instant dessert!

For salad, in a hurry throw capers, nuts, crumbled blue cheese into a bowl of

packaged

organic field greens and drizzle on some olive oil. ( I include fresh chopped

garlic)

Want some fast protein at lunch? Drain a can of salmon (or less often) tuna,

add SCD

mayo.

Here's how to get a veggie snack, Cut up beets or squash, in the food processor

spray

with oil, add seasonings and legal herbs and bake until crunchy. It work with

beets,

squash or mushrooms.

I am fortunately able to get legal hotdogs from Big s in Toronto. They are

already

cooked and just need to be in boiling water for a few minutes.

When you want sushi, roll some ginger or avocado in sugar free smoked salmon

and eat

it.

For something like a Good Humor, freeze chunks or slices of ripe banana dredged

in nuts

and a little honey.

When you fancy ice cream, add partly frozen strawberries and a few nuts to

dripped yogurt

and drizzle on honey.

Make crisp crackers by placing small 1 " pieces of hard cheese on parchment paper

and

baking 15 minutes at 350 until they bubble and brown around the edges. Cool and

peel

off the paper.

Stuff dates with softened cheddar cheese for a delicious snack.

Broiling bacon on a pan with a rack doesn't need watching. Set the timer for 10

minutes

and check to see if it's ready.

A tasty baked meat loaf provides a few dinners and is great and portable sliced

cold. Add

SCD ketchup or some mustard. Again, ingredents get tossed into the food

processor then

to a loaf pan and into the oven.

I know these may not all appeal to fussy eaters but some may.

Carol F. SCD 6 years, celliac

[Guest guest]

www.applegatefarms.com have a big variety. From my reaserch, only four are SCD

legal: turkey salami, bologna, hot dogs, and roastbeef; we're waiting for the

turkey bacon to have the evaporated cane syrup out.

I get range fed beef, lamb and turkey from the health food store.

Agape,

kumadexmom no_reply > wrote:

Ughhh. . . .where do you all buy your meats?

> >

> > I'd be afraid of your Butterball turkey too.

> > Last time I tried to find a turkey with no added ingredients, I

was

> > not able to do so in a regular grocery store.

> >

> > We had duck for Thanksgiving.

> >

> > I'd read your Butterball label very carefully. My bet is that

it says

> > that it's in " broth " or a " solution " .

> >

> >

> And injected with margarine.

>

> Carol F.

>

For information on the Specific Carbohydrate Diet, please read the book

_Breaking the Vicious Cycle_ by Elaine Gottschall and read the following

websites:

http://www.breakingtheviciouscycle.info

and

http://www.pecanbread.com

[Guest guest]

www.applegatefarms.com have a big variety. From my reaserch, only four are SCD

legal: turkey salami, bologna, hot dogs, and roastbeef; we're waiting for the

turkey bacon to have the evaporated cane syrup out.

I get range fed beef, lamb and turkey from the health food store.

Agape,

kumadexmom no_reply > wrote:

Ughhh. . . .where do you all buy your meats?

> >

> > I'd be afraid of your Butterball turkey too.

> > Last time I tried to find a turkey with no added ingredients, I

was

> > not able to do so in a regular grocery store.

> >

> > We had duck for Thanksgiving.

> >

> > I'd read your Butterball label very carefully. My bet is that

it says

> > that it's in " broth " or a " solution " .

> >

> >

> And injected with margarine.

>

> Carol F.

>

For information on the Specific Carbohydrate Diet, please read the book

_Breaking the Vicious Cycle_ by Elaine Gottschall and read the following

websites:

http://www.breakingtheviciouscycle.info

and

http://www.pecanbread.com

[Guest guest]

www.applegatefarms.com have a big variety. From my reaserch, only four are SCD

legal: turkey salami, bologna, hot dogs, and roastbeef; we're waiting for the

turkey bacon to have the evaporated cane syrup out.

I get range fed beef, lamb and turkey from the health food store.

Agape,

kumadexmom no_reply > wrote:

Ughhh. . . .where do you all buy your meats?

> >

> > I'd be afraid of your Butterball turkey too.

> > Last time I tried to find a turkey with no added ingredients, I

was

> > not able to do so in a regular grocery store.

> >

> > We had duck for Thanksgiving.

> >

> > I'd read your Butterball label very carefully. My bet is that

it says

> > that it's in " broth " or a " solution " .

> >

> >

> And injected with margarine.

>

> Carol F.

>

For information on the Specific Carbohydrate Diet, please read the book

_Breaking the Vicious Cycle_ by Elaine Gottschall and read the following

websites:

http://www.breakingtheviciouscycle.info

and

http://www.pecanbread.com

[Guest guest]

Suzanne, do you have a slow cooker? That is my saviour - I make chicken

soup, applesauce in it and it is so easy - just throw everything in and

let it go for a few hours. For , I take it out and whip it in the

mini-chopper since he can only eat baby food consistency, but if your

child is older you could just leave it chunky. I use bone-in skinless

chicken thighs in the soup, and add veggies - carrots, green beans,

cauliflower, and a clove of garlic. He loves this. His other main dish

is fish and squash - fish I either poach or steam, and squash I bake in

the oven. It's probably easier for me as I can completely control what

he eats as he is immobile. He lunges for this food. I add Mac Nut oil to

fatten him up, and honey to the fish and squash if the squash is bitter.

He also eats the custard, and we are going to start yogourt in the

cheesecake soon. His urine is smelling very ammonia-like today so maybe

he is finally having die-off, his poops are beautiful, although he needs

help because of his CP, but they are not the hard pebbles that he had

before. Diahhrea is not his problem, constipation, weight loss, and

seizures is why I turned to this diet.

Sharon, mon to SCD 1 month (sort of because I've made a few

boo-boos)

P.S. I work full-time and have a nanny from heaven who helps make his

food

[Guest guest]

Suzanne, do you have a slow cooker? That is my saviour - I make chicken

soup, applesauce in it and it is so easy - just throw everything in and

let it go for a few hours. For , I take it out and whip it in the

mini-chopper since he can only eat baby food consistency, but if your

child is older you could just leave it chunky. I use bone-in skinless

chicken thighs in the soup, and add veggies - carrots, green beans,

cauliflower, and a clove of garlic. He loves this. His other main dish

is fish and squash - fish I either poach or steam, and squash I bake in

the oven. It's probably easier for me as I can completely control what

he eats as he is immobile. He lunges for this food. I add Mac Nut oil to

fatten him up, and honey to the fish and squash if the squash is bitter.

He also eats the custard, and we are going to start yogourt in the

cheesecake soon. His urine is smelling very ammonia-like today so maybe

he is finally having die-off, his poops are beautiful, although he needs

help because of his CP, but they are not the hard pebbles that he had

before. Diahhrea is not his problem, constipation, weight loss, and

seizures is why I turned to this diet.

Sharon, mon to SCD 1 month (sort of because I've made a few

boo-boos)

P.S. I work full-time and have a nanny from heaven who helps make his

food

[Guest guest]

Suzanne, do you have a slow cooker? That is my saviour - I make chicken

soup, applesauce in it and it is so easy - just throw everything in and

let it go for a few hours. For , I take it out and whip it in the

mini-chopper since he can only eat baby food consistency, but if your

child is older you could just leave it chunky. I use bone-in skinless

chicken thighs in the soup, and add veggies - carrots, green beans,

cauliflower, and a clove of garlic. He loves this. His other main dish

is fish and squash - fish I either poach or steam, and squash I bake in

the oven. It's probably easier for me as I can completely control what

he eats as he is immobile. He lunges for this food. I add Mac Nut oil to

fatten him up, and honey to the fish and squash if the squash is bitter.

He also eats the custard, and we are going to start yogourt in the

cheesecake soon. His urine is smelling very ammonia-like today so maybe

he is finally having die-off, his poops are beautiful, although he needs

help because of his CP, but they are not the hard pebbles that he had

before. Diahhrea is not his problem, constipation, weight loss, and

seizures is why I turned to this diet.

Sharon, mon to SCD 1 month (sort of because I've made a few

boo-boos)

P.S. I work full-time and have a nanny from heaven who helps make his

food

[Guest guest]

Unfortunately, none of these foods are possible for those of us who

are nut, egg and dairy free. We cook 3-4 hours a day, and that's

just for my son. His vegetables must be scrubbed, chopped into small

pieces or shredded in the food processor, and microwaved. We make 3-

4 pound batches at a time, this lasts a day or 2. We broil his meats

2 lbs at a time, this lasts a day or 2. We boil the trimmings and

make soup stock, which we puree with cooked vegetables in small

batches in the blender to make " soup " . I make squash chips twice a

week for his preschool snacks, which takes 2 hours all by itself.

My husband and I take turns doing the cooking after our son goes to

bed, so we're up til 1am, and we wake up at 5:30am. Every other

night we can sleep 5-6 hours when the other spouse cooks. When we

were making pearsauce or applesauce every day, that was an

additional hour of cooking. You have to also count the time it takes

to wash the blender and food processor between using it for

different foods. We run the dishwasher 2 or 3 times a day, and there

are only 3 of us. This doesn't count the food I'm eating myself,

which is usually just my son's leftovers or fruit or potatoes,

since there's simply not time left to cook for myself. I would not

get any sleep at all if I took time to cook for myself. I need to

sleep.

Cooking at this level when you're also caring for a small child,

especially an autistic one, is very, very difficult. Sometimes there

are no shortcuts. If he was able to eat applesauce, or even a raw

apple, it would be a wonderful break for parents. I can't imagine

the difficulty of cooking fo a whole family or caring for multiple

children and trying to maintain the SCD.

Suzanne

> >

> >

> > Some of this started with a discussion of convenience foods --

and a statement that we

> should quit looking for convenience foods and just cook more.

>

> Would everyone describe the sort of convenience foods you wish

existed? Maybe we can

> come up with some short cuts or similar ideas.

>

> (Prior to SCD if I wanted dinner I usually had to broil some meat

and cook a couple of

> vegetables, pour some dressing on a ready mixed salad green combo.

I still do that. and

> think most people have to at times)

>

> Some food ideas that may suit your convenience:

>

> Elaine convinced me a food processor would be a great help. It

certainly is. I wake up very

> early, toss muffin ingredients in it, line a muffin tin with

paper baking cups and 30

> minutes later have enough muffins for 10-12 days. While the

muffins it's a good time to

> make yogurt

>

> CVheecake also takes little time, dump ingredients in food

processor.Pour into a loaf

> panand chill when cooled. Delicious

>

> When you have no SCD bread around roll prosciutto in a long piece

of Swiss cheese and

> add a little mustard. keep some hard boiled eggson hand. When I

want a dessrt fast that

> isn't baked, Try partly thawed blueberries in a parfait glass

adding already ground pecan

> flour on them, some honey and stir, Gooey instant dessert!

>

> For salad, in a hurry throw capers, nuts, crumbled blue cheese

into a bowl of packaged

> organic field greens and drizzle on some olive oil. ( I include

fresh chopped garlic)

>

> Want some fast protein at lunch? Drain a can of salmon (or less

often) tuna, add SCD

> mayo.

>

> Here's how to get a veggie snack, Cut up beets or squash, in the

food processor spray

> with oil, add seasonings and legal herbs and bake until crunchy.

It work with beets,

> squash or mushrooms.

>

> I am fortunately able to get legal hotdogs from Big s in

Toronto. They are already

> cooked and just need to be in boiling water for a few minutes.

>

> When you want sushi, roll some ginger or avocado in sugar free

smoked salmon and eat

> it.

>

> For something like a Good Humor, freeze chunks or slices of ripe

banana dredged in nuts

> and a little honey.

>

> When you fancy ice cream, add partly frozen strawberries and a few

nuts to dripped yogurt

> and drizzle on honey.

>

> Make crisp crackers by placing small 1 " pieces of hard cheese on

parchment paper and

> baking 15 minutes at 350 until they bubble and brown around the

edges. Cool and peel

> off the paper.

>

> Stuff dates with softened cheddar cheese for a delicious snack.

>

> Broiling bacon on a pan with a rack doesn't need watching. Set the

timer for 10 minutes

> and check to see if it's ready.

>

> A tasty baked meat loaf provides a few dinners and is great and

portable sliced cold. Add

> SCD ketchup or some mustard. Again, ingredents get tossed into

the food processor then

> to a loaf pan and into the oven.

>

> I know these may not all appeal to fussy eaters but some may.

>

> Carol F. SCD 6 years, celliac

>

[Guest guest]

Unfortunately, none of these foods are possible for those of us who

are nut, egg and dairy free. We cook 3-4 hours a day, and that's

just for my son. His vegetables must be scrubbed, chopped into small

pieces or shredded in the food processor, and microwaved. We make 3-

4 pound batches at a time, this lasts a day or 2. We broil his meats

2 lbs at a time, this lasts a day or 2. We boil the trimmings and

make soup stock, which we puree with cooked vegetables in small

batches in the blender to make " soup " . I make squash chips twice a

week for his preschool snacks, which takes 2 hours all by itself.

My husband and I take turns doing the cooking after our son goes to

bed, so we're up til 1am, and we wake up at 5:30am. Every other

night we can sleep 5-6 hours when the other spouse cooks. When we

were making pearsauce or applesauce every day, that was an

additional hour of cooking. You have to also count the time it takes

to wash the blender and food processor between using it for

different foods. We run the dishwasher 2 or 3 times a day, and there

are only 3 of us. This doesn't count the food I'm eating myself,

which is usually just my son's leftovers or fruit or potatoes,

since there's simply not time left to cook for myself. I would not

get any sleep at all if I took time to cook for myself. I need to

sleep.

Cooking at this level when you're also caring for a small child,

especially an autistic one, is very, very difficult. Sometimes there

are no shortcuts. If he was able to eat applesauce, or even a raw

apple, it would be a wonderful break for parents. I can't imagine

the difficulty of cooking fo a whole family or caring for multiple

children and trying to maintain the SCD.

Suzanne

> >

> >

> > Some of this started with a discussion of convenience foods --

and a statement that we

> should quit looking for convenience foods and just cook more.

>

> Would everyone describe the sort of convenience foods you wish

existed? Maybe we can

> come up with some short cuts or similar ideas.

>

> (Prior to SCD if I wanted dinner I usually had to broil some meat

and cook a couple of

> vegetables, pour some dressing on a ready mixed salad green combo.

I still do that. and

> think most people have to at times)

>

> Some food ideas that may suit your convenience:

>

> Elaine convinced me a food processor would be a great help. It

certainly is. I wake up very

> early, toss muffin ingredients in it, line a muffin tin with

paper baking cups and 30

> minutes later have enough muffins for 10-12 days. While the

muffins it's a good time to

> make yogurt

>

> CVheecake also takes little time, dump ingredients in food

processor.Pour into a loaf

> panand chill when cooled. Delicious

>

> When you have no SCD bread around roll prosciutto in a long piece

of Swiss cheese and

> add a little mustard. keep some hard boiled eggson hand. When I

want a dessrt fast that

> isn't baked, Try partly thawed blueberries in a parfait glass

adding already ground pecan

> flour on them, some honey and stir, Gooey instant dessert!

>

> For salad, in a hurry throw capers, nuts, crumbled blue cheese

into a bowl of packaged

> organic field greens and drizzle on some olive oil. ( I include

fresh chopped garlic)

>

> Want some fast protein at lunch? Drain a can of salmon (or less

often) tuna, add SCD

> mayo.

>

> Here's how to get a veggie snack, Cut up beets or squash, in the

food processor spray

> with oil, add seasonings and legal herbs and bake until crunchy.

It work with beets,

> squash or mushrooms.

>

> I am fortunately able to get legal hotdogs from Big s in

Toronto. They are already

> cooked and just need to be in boiling water for a few minutes.

>

> When you want sushi, roll some ginger or avocado in sugar free

smoked salmon and eat

> it.

>

> For something like a Good Humor, freeze chunks or slices of ripe

banana dredged in nuts

> and a little honey.

>

> When you fancy ice cream, add partly frozen strawberries and a few

nuts to dripped yogurt

> and drizzle on honey.

>

> Make crisp crackers by placing small 1 " pieces of hard cheese on

parchment paper and

> baking 15 minutes at 350 until they bubble and brown around the

edges. Cool and peel

> off the paper.

>

> Stuff dates with softened cheddar cheese for a delicious snack.

>

> Broiling bacon on a pan with a rack doesn't need watching. Set the

timer for 10 minutes

> and check to see if it's ready.

>

> A tasty baked meat loaf provides a few dinners and is great and

portable sliced cold. Add

> SCD ketchup or some mustard. Again, ingredents get tossed into

the food processor then

> to a loaf pan and into the oven.

>

> I know these may not all appeal to fussy eaters but some may.

>

> Carol F. SCD 6 years, celliac

>

[Guest guest]

We use the microwave a lot, which helps shorten veggie cooking

time. And for a few of his veggies, we can buy frozen (brussels

sprouts, asparagus, spinach). We used to have a nanny, back when we

could afford it, before he went into fulltime therapy and we could

afford it! She would cook while he napped, it was wonderful! We've

always had a lot of cooking to do, since he was always on restricted

allergy diets, we've never really been able to use convenience foods.

But now he is eating exclusively meats and veggies, and eating them

in large quantities, the cooking is endless. He used to be able to

get more calories from quinoa and millet, and those were faster to

cook and would hold him longer. Now he eats pounds and pounds of

veggies every day, just to get enough calories.

Oh, to have a nanny again!

Suzanne

>

> Suzanne, do you have a slow cooker? That is my saviour - I make

chicken

> soup, applesauce in it and it is so easy - just throw everything

in and

> let it go for a few hours. For , I take it out and whip it in

the

> mini-chopper since he can only eat baby food consistency, but if

your

> child is older you could just leave it chunky. I use bone-in

skinless

> chicken thighs in the soup, and add veggies - carrots, green beans,

> cauliflower, and a clove of garlic. He loves this. His other main

dish

> is fish and squash - fish I either poach or steam, and squash I

bake in

> the oven. It's probably easier for me as I can completely control

what

> he eats as he is immobile. He lunges for this food. I add Mac Nut

oil to

> fatten him up, and honey to the fish and squash if the squash is

bitter.

> He also eats the custard, and we are going to start yogourt in the

> cheesecake soon. His urine is smelling very ammonia-like today so

maybe

> he is finally having die-off, his poops are beautiful, although he

needs

> help because of his CP, but they are not the hard pebbles that he

had

> before. Diahhrea is not his problem, constipation, weight loss, and

> seizures is why I turned to this diet.

> Sharon, mon to SCD 1 month (sort of because I've made a few

> boo-boos)

> P.S. I work full-time and have a nanny from heaven who helps make

his

> food

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

We use the microwave a lot, which helps shorten veggie cooking

time. And for a few of his veggies, we can buy frozen (brussels

sprouts, asparagus, spinach). We used to have a nanny, back when we

could afford it, before he went into fulltime therapy and we could

afford it! She would cook while he napped, it was wonderful! We've

always had a lot of cooking to do, since he was always on restricted

allergy diets, we've never really been able to use convenience foods.

But now he is eating exclusively meats and veggies, and eating them

in large quantities, the cooking is endless. He used to be able to

get more calories from quinoa and millet, and those were faster to

cook and would hold him longer. Now he eats pounds and pounds of

veggies every day, just to get enough calories.

Oh, to have a nanny again!

Suzanne

>

> Suzanne, do you have a slow cooker? That is my saviour - I make

chicken

> soup, applesauce in it and it is so easy - just throw everything

in and

> let it go for a few hours. For , I take it out and whip it in

the

> mini-chopper since he can only eat baby food consistency, but if

your

> child is older you could just leave it chunky. I use bone-in

skinless

> chicken thighs in the soup, and add veggies - carrots, green beans,

> cauliflower, and a clove of garlic. He loves this. His other main

dish

> is fish and squash - fish I either poach or steam, and squash I

bake in

> the oven. It's probably easier for me as I can completely control

what

> he eats as he is immobile. He lunges for this food. I add Mac Nut

oil to

> fatten him up, and honey to the fish and squash if the squash is

bitter.

> He also eats the custard, and we are going to start yogourt in the

> cheesecake soon. His urine is smelling very ammonia-like today so

maybe

> he is finally having die-off, his poops are beautiful, although he

needs

> help because of his CP, but they are not the hard pebbles that he

had

> before. Diahhrea is not his problem, constipation, weight loss, and

> seizures is why I turned to this diet.

> Sharon, mon to SCD 1 month (sort of because I've made a few

> boo-boos)

> P.S. I work full-time and have a nanny from heaven who helps make

his

> food

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

We use the microwave a lot, which helps shorten veggie cooking

time. And for a few of his veggies, we can buy frozen (brussels

sprouts, asparagus, spinach). We used to have a nanny, back when we

could afford it, before he went into fulltime therapy and we could

afford it! She would cook while he napped, it was wonderful! We've

always had a lot of cooking to do, since he was always on restricted

allergy diets, we've never really been able to use convenience foods.

But now he is eating exclusively meats and veggies, and eating them

in large quantities, the cooking is endless. He used to be able to

get more calories from quinoa and millet, and those were faster to

cook and would hold him longer. Now he eats pounds and pounds of

veggies every day, just to get enough calories.

Oh, to have a nanny again!

Suzanne

>

> Suzanne, do you have a slow cooker? That is my saviour - I make

chicken

> soup, applesauce in it and it is so easy - just throw everything

in and

> let it go for a few hours. For , I take it out and whip it in

the

> mini-chopper since he can only eat baby food consistency, but if

your

> child is older you could just leave it chunky. I use bone-in

skinless

> chicken thighs in the soup, and add veggies - carrots, green beans,

> cauliflower, and a clove of garlic. He loves this. His other main

dish

> is fish and squash - fish I either poach or steam, and squash I

bake in

> the oven. It's probably easier for me as I can completely control

what

> he eats as he is immobile. He lunges for this food. I add Mac Nut

oil to

> fatten him up, and honey to the fish and squash if the squash is

bitter.

> He also eats the custard, and we are going to start yogourt in the

> cheesecake soon. His urine is smelling very ammonia-like today so

maybe

> he is finally having die-off, his poops are beautiful, although he

needs

> help because of his CP, but they are not the hard pebbles that he

had

> before. Diahhrea is not his problem, constipation, weight loss, and

> seizures is why I turned to this diet.

> Sharon, mon to SCD 1 month (sort of because I've made a few

> boo-boos)

> P.S. I work full-time and have a nanny from heaven who helps make

his

> food

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Actually, that is a pretty standard cost for ABA schools. Anywhere

from $50,000 to $70,000 is the norm, depending on the cost of living

in your area. For that we get 6 hours of one-on-one therapy 5 days a

week, 2 PhDs, a masters degree BCBS, speech therapy, and

occupational therapy, and 5 hours of an ABA-trained aide with social

skill support in his typical preschool setting.

It's an excellent education, and my son is doing very well with it.

By the time I accumulated all those different degrees myself, my son

would be an adult. He needs it now. I don't have luxury of time to

go back to school and get educated in all those specialty areas fast

enough to teach him myself. It would be nice if I had what he

needed, but I have an MBA, and the best thing that I can do for him

now is to earn as much money as I can to pay for trained experts to

educate him. His school is wonderful, and I couldn't ask for

anything better for him. I'm happy to pay the price - and believe

me, nobody at the school is getting rich. Even the director drives

an old car and lives in a modest house. It just really costs that

much to deliver this quality education for autistic children.

What keeps me going is several support groups and being able to talk

to other moms, like here. At least there are some people who

understand what we're going through. We have an ARC support group,

but the ARC doesn't provide respite care. At most of the support

groups I attend though, there is childcare provided, and so at least

there my son can be safely cared for and I can have an hour or two

free to talk to other moms. I take my breaks where I can get them.

Yesterday I drove 2 hours just to go to a biomed support group where

there was childcare. It was heaven!

We have thought about moving, and it continues to be an option,

especially as I look for new jobs. But my husband now has, at long

last, a wonderful job that provides a lot of flexibility - he is

able to work from home when needed and help with driving my son to

therapy, and that's difficult to find. Plus, he's an attorney,

trained and licensed in Virginia, so it would be hard for him to

move his practice to another state.

We probably should consider enzymes. The ingredients and his

allergies make it difficult to find one that's safe ... never mind

one that's also SCD legal!

Suzanne

> > > " Convenience food " deserves a better name. How about " saving

> mommy

> > > from the loony bin " food?

> > >

> > > Off to cook,

> > > Suzanne

> > >

> > Suzanne,

> > I am going to just run the idea by you once more of hiring

someone

> or enlisting a friend

> > for a day to prepare food in advance that can be portion packed

in

> Ziploc type containers

> > and frozen.

> >

> > Assuming there was more convenience food, there couldn't be

enough

> to address all your

> > needs. A helper can make your favorite SCD recipes and baked

goods

> that freeze well.

> >

> > Spending hours cooking must be daunting for you under the

> circumstances. If you find the

> > diet is working, it will get easier and be worth it.

> >

> > I don';t sleep well and sympathize with what a nightmare to also

> have a husband and

> > children to look after that need plenty of extra attention.

> >

> > Carol F.

> > SCD, 6 years celiac

> >

>

>

>

>

>

>

> For information on the Specific Carbohydrate Diet, please read the

book _Breaking the Vicious Cycle_ by Elaine Gottschall and read the

following websites:

> http://www.breakingtheviciouscycle.info

> and

> http://www.pecanbread.com

>

>

>

>

>