Re: INSOMNIA!

March 4, 2008

I can personally attest to the Mood Cure. It's an awesome book! Very

helpful.

>

> Hello....

>

> I truly appreciate all the help that I have been given so far, so

I would like to help as well. I have extensively studied natural

treatments such as amino acids and herbs and would like to share some

of my knowledge....

>

> May I suggest that you consider 5-HTP. It is the natural

precursor to serotonin, extracted from an african bean, TOTALLY

crosses the blood brain barrier and will also calm the mind....I take

mine with Vitamin C/B complex both from New Chapter organics since

they are cultured whole food I feel that they are more bioavailable

for the body and thus our brains! Anyway, this stuff has done wonders

for me....I learned alot about the amino acids and such from 2 great

books by Ross:

>

> The Mood Cure

> The Diet Cure

>

> These books changed my life....

>

> The waking up early is a definite symptom of low serotonin.....

>

> I also have used True Calm by NOW with success as well. It

contains many amino acids known to calm the body and mind. It has

Gaba in it, so if one were on any benzo's that would help the weaning

process...I know from experience. I get most of supplements from a

company called iherb.com or VRP.com. I feel that they are both

reliable and fast in their processing with nice prices.

>

March 4, 2008

Ruthann - thanks so much - I have also read some about amino acids. 2

of my docs have told me to take natural supplementary sleep aids (each

one containing 5-HTP).However, I am on Zoloft (SSRI anti-depressant)

and read that taking 5-HTP with an SSRI is a BIG no-no and can cause

serotonin overload and weird manic like feelings. However, both these

docs said it was OK to take with Zoloft, though I have read articles

to the contrary. Anyone know anything about this interaction?

I would lOVE to try the 5-HTP but am worried about potential

interactions with my Zoloft.

> >

> > Hello all,

> >

> > I need some help. I cannot for the life of me get sleep, which as we

> > all know, is desperately needed to help the adrenals & thyroid

> > recover. I have persistent, unrelenting, horrible insomnia that

> > doesn't respond to any sort of meds/supplements, and I was NEVER

> > insomniac before they started me on and off a bunch of different

> > treatment/meds back in July 2007.

>

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March 4, 2008

Absolutely! I've been sleeping with earplugs for 25+ years, because I

don't sleep without them. --

>

> Two words: EAR PLUGS!

>

> Lexie

>

March 4, 2008

Thanks Val. I know you have mentioned this before in other posts, I

just cannot get my head around it (that sometimes one needs to up the

cortisol to sleep better). I wanted to lower my Isocort dosage back to

1 or 2 pellets/day (to see if it would help my sleep), but I don't

think that's a good idea because I feel better energy while I am on

it than I have in the past 5 months!

Have you heard of Seriphos - my naturopath/homeopath wants me to try

this to regulate the cortisol levels at night. But, if, as you

suspect, it's actually adrenaline, not sure if this will help.

Thanks again for your help! This website has been invaluable to me and

so many others, I'm sure.

Metta

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> Low cortisol can keep you awake at night just as much as high does. It

> does this as when you get too low you go hypoglycemic then your body

> releases adrenaline. End of sleep for hours after tht. You can try

> taking some Isocort at bedtime and not eating any carbs after baout 5PM

> then eating high protein at bedtime. Sometimes this combo is helpful

> sometimes it just takes ghetting the cortils higher to be able to

return

> to normal sleep. Slow.ly raising the Isocort until you can tolerate HC

> would be my suggestion.

>

> --

> Artistic Grooming- Hurricane WV

>

> http://www.stopthethyroidmadness.com/

>

http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/NaturalThyroidHormonesADRENALS/

> http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/RT3_T3/

>

March 4, 2008

,

Thanks so much! I did have my Vit D levels checked back in October 07

and they were low. I've been on 2200 IU of Vitamin D since then.

Someone suggested prescription strength Vit D though? I'll have my

levels re-checked.

Also, my ferritin (according to my DOC) was not low, but I think it

was! It was 37 (on scale of 8-125 ug/L). So I ordered a ferritin

supplement called Hemagenics (by company name Metagenics, w/thiamin,

Vit B^, Folate, Vit B12, iron (as iron glycinate), phosphorus, copper,

and calcium). I haven't started it yet but maybe should do so.

Metta

>

> Metta,

>

> Have you had ferritin checked? Low ferritin makes it difficult to

tolerate thyroid meds.

> Also, ask for your vitamin D 25 hydroxy level to be checked. When

you talk of being in the sunshime and sleep was good, you may need

supplementation with a prescription strength Vitamin D.

>

> in OH

>

March 4, 2008

Gale, thank you! Very helpful explanation

>

> http://www.usdoctor.com/cortisol.htm

>

> I thought of you when I read this about adrenals & insomnia.

>

> Gale

>

March 5, 2008

When you raise cortisll levels in the daytime with taking Isocort,

glandulars or HC, it lowers your ACTh which in turn lowers night time

cortisol. usually when you get ENOUGH cortiosl inthe daytime your night

time ACTH will be low enough that you need cortis to prevent

hypoglycemia at night which will keep you awake.

--

Artistic Grooming- Hurricane WV

http://www.stopthethyroidmadness.com/

http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/NaturalThyroidHormonesADRENALS/

http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/RT3_T3/

March 5, 2008

Thanks Ruth Ann. I just picked up some 5-HTP the other day. How do

you take it?

>

> Hello....

>

> I truly appreciate all the help that I have been given so far, so

I would like to help as well. I have extensively studied natural

treatments such as amino acids and herbs and would like to share some

of my knowledge....

>

> May I suggest that you consider 5-HTP.

March 5, 2008

I'm curious as well. I took some yesterday and did sleep like a log

last night after about 4 nights of tossing and turning. It was

either the 5_htp or just total exhaustion setting in.

I am curious as to the best time to take it....some say morning,

some say before bed.

naffy

> >

> > Hello....

> >

> > I truly appreciate all the help that I have been given so far,

so

> I would like to help as well. I have extensively studied natural

> treatments such as amino acids and herbs and would like to share

some

> of my knowledge....

> >

> > May I suggest that you consider 5-HTP.

>

March 5, 2008

I used to take it an hour before bed, it naturally raises melatonin so

that's the best time to take it

Lynda

Re: INSOMNIA!

> I'm curious as well. I took some yesterday and did sleep like a log

> last night after about 4 nights of tossing and turning. It was

> either the 5_htp or just total exhaustion setting in.

>

> I am curious as to the best time to take it....some say morning,

> some say before bed.

>

> naffy

March 5, 2008

I take mine with 1 gram of vitamin c and 1 b complex vitamin....I would start

slow, as I know how desparate I was to feel better, but in this case more is not

better....try the 50mg first and if you don't feel any better then add another

50mg, in about an hour. Literature states that one can do 150mg twice a day if

tolerated. Take the first dose in afternoon, around 5pm or so and the last dose

at bedtime.

Feel better!

jasrich jasrich@...> wrote:

Thanks Ruth Ann. I just picked up some 5-HTP the other day. How do

you take it?

>

> Hello....

>

> I truly appreciate all the help that I have been given so far, so

I would like to help as well. I have extensively studied natural

treatments such as amino acids and herbs and would like to share some

of my knowledge....

>

> May I suggest that you consider 5-HTP.

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March 5, 2008

It may have been a combination for you of the lack of sleep and the 5htp.

It depends on your symptoms, as lack of sleep is not the only sign of being

low in serotonin....if you wake up and are having constant negative thoughts,

angry alot, then try it in the am too and see how it works for you. We are all

individual. I follow the advice of my body:)

It really doesn't make me sleepy, it just totally, naturally mellows me out.

Let me know if you have any other questions....

nafoel nafoel@...> wrote:

I'm curious as well. I took some yesterday and did sleep like a log

last night after about 4 nights of tossing and turning. It was

either the 5_htp or just total exhaustion setting in.

I am curious as to the best time to take it....some say morning,

some say before bed.

naffy

> >

> > Hello....

> >

> > I truly appreciate all the help that I have been given so far,

so

> I would like to help as well. I have extensively studied natural

> treatments such as amino acids and herbs and would like to share

some

> of my knowledge....

> >

> > May I suggest that you consider 5-HTP.

>

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March 5, 2008

I personally would not do them together, as serotonin syndrome could result. I

would consider that if you have not gotten great relief from Zoloft, which for

me (years ago) was very short lived, you could switch over to the 5 htp. Do

what feels right to you, but if it were me I wouldn't want to do them together.

May you obtain all the rest you deserve!

mettamm77 monamotwani@...> wrote: