Re: Re: Adrenal support---what are you using

[Guest guest]

Hi Tigger, I understand how you feel I have social anxiety disorder and its

horrible, I also get sick to my stomach when I have to go somewhere new, i even

make my docs appointments at the time that I know they are less busy which is

after lunchtime, and when going to a new doc i try to get the 1st appointment

of the day and try to be the 1st patient, its a sad life and to top it off

this hypo makes everything so much worse

[Guest guest]

wow hashimotos can really affect ones brain cindy, goodness I will get

checked for this soon, I will mention it to my doc thanks

[Guest guest]

yeah - but don't those of us still searching for our armour to be up'd and our

drs. to listen to us have that feeling? seriously - I have those feelings. I

figure they're because I am so frustrated going from doctor to doctor and

thinking I've finally hit the right dr. - and then they don't follow through. I

feel like my life is in limbo with this thyroid thing and get to a point that I

just want to give up.

Cris

Re: Re: Adrenal support---what are you

using

>

> noise bothers me a lot. Not as bad as it did before I started the armour.

But my daughter would click her hair clip, and I would screech! No one

understood that those noises 'hurt' my ears or something. And I often have

that nagging feeling you're talking about. So what does this mean?

> Cris

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[Guest guest]

really? I still get that way. My hubby says I drive him nuts. Anytime we have to

go out with his work or something, I become such a nervous wreck!!

I went to an embroidery club - first one for me - last saturday. I was so

nervous.

I shouldn't be - I know there is no reason to be, but I can't help it. I just

want to stay home.

Cris

Re: Re: Adrenal support---what are you using

In a message dated 1/10/2005 11:57:02 AM Eastern Standard Time,

marin@... writes:

> I saw myself there, the way I was in the

> beginning of it, with these strange feelings that something drastic was

> going to happen to me.

i can remember actually training myself then to sit down and try to pinpoint

if there was anything really wrong in my life. I would do that to try to get

rid of the scared and anxious feeling that I had. sometimes i could pinpoint

something that maybe I was worrying or fretting over...but most of the time

there was nothing. so i would try to tell myself to just calm down. it makes

me mad i went thru so many years of that and didn't have too. i don't feel

scared anymore.

cindi

[Guest guest]

Oh my cindi, my social phobia also is really bad, I cant even take my kids to

the park on a saturday because as soon as it gets crowed I cant even focus on

anything other than the people around me, aghh its a very debiliating

condition and I have had it since I was 13 yrs old, thats the first time I

noticed

the uneasy feeling, and at that time I lived in NYC so you can imagine living

in such a large city where there are tons of people and having social phobia it

was not easy, now I live in Florida and I am 30 and still have social phobia

and its at its worst now that I am hypo, aghhhhh

[Guest guest]

Yes betty, I try to avoid crowds as best i can.

[Guest guest]

In a message dated 1/14/2005 2:00:34 PM Eastern Standard Time,

melly@... writes:

> Oh my cindi, my social phobia also is really bad, I cant even take my kids

> to

> the park on a saturday because as soon as it gets crowed I cant even focus

> on

> anything other than the people around me

that will get lots better (and probably disappear) once you get on enough

thyroid hormone. it really does. that scared feeling, the social phobia, the

anxiety...all this is from not enough thyroid hormone in your brain. you

probably have had Hashi's all your life...and it's just now getting worse after

your

pregnancies. and you're now having more physical symptoms.

cindi

[Guest guest]

yes its funny how as soon as I gave birth I developed the hyperthyroid, and

now you know what I think you might be right maybe i had this all my life,

WOW you guys are amazing,,,,,,

[Guest guest]

In a message dated 1/14/2005 2:26:46 PM Eastern Standard Time,

melly@... writes:

> WOW you guys are amazing,,,,,,

well maybe...but actually we just got sick...and then sicker, and doctors

didn't help us...and so we were forced to start studying about hashimoto's and

thyroid disease, etc...and we ended up smarter than the docs...who are only

taught one thing: if the TSH isn't really really high just tell them

everything

is " normal " and offer an anti-depressant.

cindi

[Guest guest]

I'm a nervous wreck when I have to do/go somewhere new... I usually end up

puking. Spent most of my life doing that because I was always afraid.

Tigger

Re: Re: Adrenal support---what are you using

In a message dated 1/10/2005 11:57:02 AM Eastern Standard Time,

marin@... writes:

> I saw myself there, the way I was in the

> beginning of it, with these strange feelings that something drastic was

> going to happen to me.

i can remember actually training myself then to sit down and try to pinpoint

if there was anything really wrong in my life. I would do that to try to get

rid of the scared and anxious feeling that I had. sometimes i could pinpoint

something that maybe I was worrying or fretting over...but most of the time

there was nothing. so i would try to tell myself to just calm down. it makes

me mad i went thru so many years of that and didn't have too. i don't feel

scared anymore.

cindi

[Guest guest]

I understand. Sometimes I do sometimes I'm ok. Phone phobia is also a biggie for

me.

Kate

Re: Re: Adrenal support---what are you using

I'm a nervous wreck when I have to do/go somewhere new... I usually end up

puking. Spent most of my life doing that because I was always afraid.

Tigger

[Guest guest]

Talking about being nervous in social situations - I have always been a fairly

confident person but just before this illness came about I started a new job.

Every time I spoke to someone I started blushing and I was very aware of it and

slightly embarrassed. It had never happened before and I didn't know why it

was happening. Then I started feeling nauseous every day at work but I was

fine when I was at home. It was shortly after that that I started feeling

really ill, seems that this social phobia thing was a precursor

Lynda (in the UK)

Re: Re: Adrenal support---what are you using

In a message dated 1/14/2005 11:22:14 AM Eastern Standard Time,

bcmc@... writes:

> Does that feeling ever go away!!!!.This is a big problem for me.Use

> to be free...now I am a shaking little bird...

[Guest guest]

me too, even when I am talking to someone I know well. I can be freezing cold

and wearing a sweater when I answer the phone, after a few minutes I am

sweating. I could understand it if it was a confrontational call but this

happens even when I am just chatting to my daughter on the phone.

Lynda (in the UK)

Re: Re: Adrenal support---what are you using

In a message dated 1/14/2005 11:52:43 AM Eastern Standard Time,

kzlists@... writes:

> . Phone phobia is also a biggie for me.

>

oh wow... i had that bad...and even now, still don't like to be on the phone

too much. even after i started treatment...i would get on the phone and get

so short of breath i could hardly talk and i think it was just an inner

nervousness about being on the phone. it was weird...because i used to NEVER

have a

problem with the phone. for a while there, i was having to get my husband to

make some calls for me. it's better now. but i still limit using the phone

if possible.

cindi

[Guest guest]

Hi sandy I am hypo

[Guest guest]

Does that feeling ever go away!!!!.This is a big problem for me.Use

to be free...now I am a shaking little bird...Betty

nc2406@... wrote:

> In a message dated 1/14/2005 8:43:32 AM Eastern Standard Time,

> martian.303@... writes:

>

> > I shouldn't be - I know there is no reason to be, but I can't help

> it. I

> > just want to stay home.

> >

>

> chris....i understand this feeling totally. that's how it got for me.

> " social withdrawal " is the way the symptom is listed. and then the

> associated

> anxiety when you do go out.

> cindi

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Hi cris, well I also had a very abusive stepdad which was a plain @ss! aghh

that has to do alot with my social phobia and feelings of being scared.

[Guest guest]

I know I stay home as much as I can too its about the only place I feel safe.

[Guest guest]

In a message dated 1/14/2005 5:41:52 PM Eastern Standard Time,

martian.303@... writes:

> I wish my husband understood.

> Will it get better when I get optimally treated?

>

yes. much better.

cindi

[Guest guest]

In a message dated 1/14/2005 5:42:36 PM Eastern Standard Time,

martian.303@... writes:

> This is so interesting to me that this is a hypo symptom

when i got diagnosed...and made the connection between my anxiety and social

withdrawal...i was just blown away...and i kept researching and reading...and

kept finding references to it. it really made me feel better to know. it

helped me understand why i had changed so much over the last 5-10 years in that

area.

cindi

[Guest guest]

In a message dated 1/14/2005 6:11:34 PM Eastern Standard Time,

melly@... writes:

> Hi cris, well I also had a very abusive stepdad which was a plain @ss! aghh

>

> that has to do alot with my social phobia and feelings of being scared.

>

>

there's some research on how stress...sexual abuse...etc....can cause thyroid

dysfunction.

cindi

[Guest guest]

actually, my stepdad did get fresh with me when I was 13 around teh same time

my social phobia started, but he hated me because I didnt allow him to go any

further and I told my mom right away, so he hates me for that and I dont care

but meanwhile I use dto be so scared of him and of course he would always

start argumenst with me and hit me, it was aliving hell, but at least the sexual

abuse was not there, if it was I would have really goone crazy! aghh but i

know everything I have today and everything I am today is because if my

childhood

problems.

[Guest guest]

In a message dated 1/14/2005 6:58:54 PM Eastern Standard Time,

martian.303@... writes:

> I'm going to mention this to my doctor too - and tell her that i know it is

> a hypo symptom. she if she laughs at me!!

>

i can get you lots of medical abstracts on hypo and psychiatric problems. one

really good article on anxiety and endocrine disorders is this:

http://www.drrichardhall.com/anxiety.htm

read on down to the section " Anxiety Disorders in Patients with Thyroid

Hormone Disturbance " .

Cindi

[Guest guest]

Are you hypoT, or hyperT?

SandyE~Houston

On Fri, 14 Jan 2005 14:12:31 EST

melly@... wrote:

> yes its funny how as soon as I gave birth I developed the

>hyperthyroid, and

> now you know what I think you might be right maybe i had this all my

>life,

> WOW you guys are amazing,,,,,,

>

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

....sounds like something I do.Seems like I am always

planning on how to get around things ...Betty

melly@... wrote:

> Hi Tigger, I understand how you feel I have social anxiety disorder

> and its

> horrible, I also get sick to my stomach when I have to go somewhere

> new, i even

> make my docs appointments at the time that I know they are less busy

> which is

> after lunchtime, and when going to a new doc i try to get the 1st

> appointment

> of the day and try to be the 1st patient, its a sad life and to top it

> off

> this hypo makes everything so much worse

>

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

I have never puked - felt like it - but never did. I have hoped that this would

get better on the armour. I usually end up running to the bathroom - and as

constipated as I usually am, it takes a lot of nervousness to make that happen!!

Cris

Re: Re: Adrenal support---what are you using

In a message dated 1/10/2005 11:57:02 AM Eastern Standard Time,

marin@... writes:

> I saw myself there, the way I was in the

> beginning of it, with these strange feelings that something drastic was

> going to happen to me.

i can remember actually training myself then to sit down and try to pinpoint

if there was anything really wrong in my life. I would do that to try to get

rid of the scared and anxious feeling that I had. sometimes i could pinpoint

something that maybe I was worrying or fretting over...but most of the time

there was nothing. so i would try to tell myself to just calm down. it makes

me mad i went thru so many years of that and didn't have too. i don't feel

scared anymore.

cindi