Re: Re: Adrenal support---what are you using

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In a message dated 1/5/2005 9:19:29 PM Eastern Standard Time, marin@...

writes:

> And then there's that nagging feeling

> of " something's going to happen " , and it isn't going to happen.

>

i believe they list that as a hypo symptom under " feelings of doom " .

cindi

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And small noise levels bother me, or sometimes, just the presence of other

human beings in a room with me, lol. And then there's that nagging feeling

of " something's going to happen " , and it isn't going to happen.

Re: Re: Adrenal support---what are you

using

>

> In a message dated 1/4/2005 10:16:43 AM Eastern Standard Time,

> lyn.worth@... writes:

>

> > 16 months on and I am still waiting for that to happen

>

> mine still acts up a bit when I'm stressed...but it's much better.

thinking

> about it now...i remember how the phone would ring and my heart would just

> start pounding.

> cindi

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In a message dated 1/6/2005 9:00:17 AM Eastern Standard Time,

tigger57ri@... writes:

> My family alway just told me I was nuts... then as I got older they just

> called it anxiety.... but it's very different than anxiety.

>

>

this has been one of the nicest things to me about being treated with Armour.

I have a sense of WELL-BEING....I don't wake up in the morning and feel

scared anymore for no reason. I don't fret about stuff. I took anti-anxiety

meds

for 10 years prior to Armour. I do not have anxiety now. I am MELLOW. It's

been so long since I have had this sense of " all is okay in my world "

.....maybe back in my 20s...I'm almost 50. shame on all those doctors.

cindi

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In a message dated 1/6/2005 9:06:15 AM Eastern Standard Time,

tigger57ri@... writes:

> I alway though my noise sensitivity was from growing up with a much older

> brother who insisted on playing music so loud it would actually hurt me.

>

before Armour, I can remember getting irritable and snapping at my husband if

the TV was a teeny bit too high. And he loves rock music...and I got really

out of control one time when he was playing it loud. It just jarred my whole

being....and I spun out of control. I don't think loud noise bothers me in

that way anymore.

cindi

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In a message dated 1/6/2005 9:55:07 AM Eastern Standard Time,

tigger57ri@... writes:

> The other thing is that I can be fine one minute and then one little thing

> will set me off and I'm so angry that I find myself beating up the phone (at

> work) or just shaking. Part of hypo too? I find this all so amazing.

>

yes tigger...hypo. i'm a much nicer person now.

cindi

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In a message dated 1/6/2005 9:55:07 AM Eastern Standard Time,

tigger57ri@... writes:

> If I go through a check list of symptoms I probably only DON'T have one or

> two symptoms.

same here. the only thing that I have noted that I didn't have was migraine

headaches. everything else I can say yes to.

cindi

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In a message dated 1/6/2005 10:16:44 AM Eastern Standard Time,

bcmc@... writes:

> ...I hope the switch to the thyroid [Canada drug]

> can do the same for me as you for that darn Anxiety

i hope so too, Betty. It was sorta strange for me...about two weeks after

starting Armour - and I was only on one grain then...I can remember thinking " I

feel calmer " ....and I thought I'd try not to take the anti-anxiety med. And

it was fine. I did okay. Now keep in mind I also used to have some bad

depression and panic type stuff. Over the first few months of taking Armour, I

would swing back and forth on the mental/psychiatric stuff. One moment I'd be

fine and honest to goodness, the next moment I could be suicidal. But it

eventually just leveled out into mellow almost all of the time.

And I do think one has to change their thought patterns a bit. We may have

gotten so used to being panicky and depressed that we may have to remind

ourselves that our brains are better now...that we do have the resources not to

react in the same old ways.

And I truly believe that if one has been severely affected by psychiatric

symptoms of hypo, that it can take many many months for the brain to heal.

while I'm thinking about all this...one other sorta strange thing I have

noticed is this. I can cry tears now. For years I never cried much about

anything - happy or sad tears. But now I'm just a sentimental mess - but in a

good

way - and I can cry again. It's a good thing to have real feelings.

Cindi

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noise bothers me a lot. Not as bad as it did before I started the armour. But my

daughter would click her hair clip, and I would screech! No one understood that

those noises 'hurt' my ears or something. And I often have that nagging feeling

you're talking about. So what does this mean?

Cris

Re: Re: Adrenal support---what are you

using

>

> In a message dated 1/4/2005 10:16:43 AM Eastern Standard Time,

> lyn.worth@... writes:

>

> > 16 months on and I am still waiting for that to happen

>

> mine still acts up a bit when I'm stressed...but it's much better.

thinking

> about it now...i remember how the phone would ring and my heart would just

> start pounding.

> cindi

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don't we all feel that way? like they're going to doom us to have to take their

artificial incomplete drug?

Cris

Re: Re: Adrenal support---what are you using

In a message dated 1/5/2005 9:19:29 PM Eastern Standard Time, marin@...

writes:

> And then there's that nagging feeling

> of " something's going to happen " , and it isn't going to happen.

>

i believe they list that as a hypo symptom under " feelings of doom " .

cindi

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I never knew that.... what I always called... " feelings of impending doom " was a

hypo sign. My family alway just told me I was nuts... then as I got older they

just called it anxiety.... but it's very different than anxiety.

Thanks for the info and explaination on that.... it makes me feel less crazy.

Tigger

Re: Re: Adrenal support---what are you using

In a message dated 1/5/2005 9:19:29 PM Eastern Standard Time, marin@...

writes:

> And then there's that nagging feeling

> of " something's going to happen " , and it isn't going to happen.

>

i believe they list that as a hypo symptom under " feelings of doom " .

cindi

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I've never been able to handle loud noises. I still can't. I live a fairly

quiet life... except when that idiot across the street decides to play the

stereo in his car with the huge bass amplifier in the trunk, and the trunk wide

open. He plays it so loud that there have been times when my windows shook and

I couldn't hear my TV with all the windows closed. Forget the police, by the

time they get here he's stopped. Anyway, I got off track... I alway though my

noise sensitivity was from growing up with a much older brother who insisted on

playing music so loud it would actually hurt me.

Man, I'm learning a lot today.

Tigger

Re: Re: Adrenal support---what are you

using

>

> In a message dated 1/4/2005 10:16:43 AM Eastern Standard Time,

> lyn.worth@... writes:

>

> > 16 months on and I am still waiting for that to happen

>

> mine still acts up a bit when I'm stressed...but it's much better.

thinking

> about it now...i remember how the phone would ring and my heart would just

> start pounding.

> cindi

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The other thing is that I can be fine one minute and then one little thing will

set me off and I'm so angry that I find myself beating up the phone (at work) or

just shaking. Part of hypo too? I find this all so amazing.

The real amazing part is that I'm almost 48 and I've KNOWN for years that I had

hypo problem.... since I was a teen. If I go through a check list of symptoms I

probably only DON'T have one or two symptoms. My temp has always been low and

instead of getting hot flashes, I've always gotten cold flashes... where I get

so cold that I used to put the oven on and sit in front of it, with my feet in

it.... or I have to take a hot shower or bath... or I just have to go snuggle

under the down comfortor and elect. blanket. Hypo? I have thought so for

years.

Also want to way thanks for all your info.

Tigger

Re: Re: Adrenal support---what are you using

In a message dated 1/6/2005 9:00:17 AM Eastern Standard Time,

tigger57ri@... writes:

> My family alway just told me I was nuts... then as I got older they just

> called it anxiety.... but it's very different than anxiety.

>

>

this has been one of the nicest things to me about being treated with Armour.

I have a sense of WELL-BEING....I don't wake up in the morning and feel

scared anymore for no reason. I don't fret about stuff. I took anti-anxiety

meds

for 10 years prior to Armour. I do not have anxiety now. I am MELLOW. It's

been so long since I have had this sense of " all is okay in my world "

....maybe back in my 20s...I'm almost 50. shame on all those doctors.

cindi

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>>I can be fine one minute and then one little thing will set me off and I'm

so angry that I find myself beating up the phone <<

I think this can be hypo OR more likely female hormones. I say that as even

when I was very hypo I never had the temper that I had right after my hyst.

When my Estrogen is low I am a WITCH. I don;t even have patience with my

cats or the dogs I groom. But hypo never did that to me, just a feeling of

helplessness and wishing the day (or my life) was just over.

Artistic Grooming

Hurricane, West Virginia

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makes me feel better about myself too!

Cris

Re: Re: Adrenal support---what are you using

In a message dated 1/5/2005 9:19:29 PM Eastern Standard Time, marin@...

writes:

> And then there's that nagging feeling

> of " something's going to happen " , and it isn't going to happen.

>

i believe they list that as a hypo symptom under " feelings of doom " .

cindi

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Funny you mentioned migraines. Had one this morning. I hate that. I used to

have them when I was younger, then they stopped or lessened for awhile... now

their back. I'm wondering if it's also part of a perimenopause thing... after

all, I'll be 48 in April... oh how I hate that.

Tigger

Re: Re: Adrenal support---what are you using

In a message dated 1/6/2005 9:55:07 AM Eastern Standard Time,

tigger57ri@... writes:

> If I go through a check list of symptoms I probably only DON'T have one or

> two symptoms.

same here. the only thing that I have noted that I didn't have was migraine

headaches. everything else I can say yes to.

cindi

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Cindi...Anxiety ...I hope the switch to the thyroid [Canada drug]

can do the same for me as you for that darn Anxiety....Betty{Canada}

nc2406@... wrote:

> In a message dated 1/6/2005 9:00:17 AM Eastern Standard Time,

> tigger57ri@... writes:

>

> > My family alway just told me I was nuts... then as I got older they

> just

> > called it anxiety.... but it's very different than anxiety.

> >

> >

>

> this has been one of the nicest things to me about being treated with

> Armour.

> I have a sense of WELL-BEING....I don't wake up in the morning and feel

> scared anymore for no reason. I don't fret about stuff. I took

> anti-anxiety meds

> for 10 years prior to Armour. I do not have anxiety now. I am

> MELLOW. It's

> been so long since I have had this sense of " all is okay in my world "

> ....maybe back in my 20s...I'm almost 50. shame on all those doctors.

> cindi

>

>

>

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I - knock on wood - haven't had one in about 2 months. Mine were ferocious - and

I'm sure partyl hormone related. That is what started them. Then I was getting

them from pressure on my neck.

Cris

Re: Re: Adrenal support---what are you using

In a message dated 1/6/2005 9:55:07 AM Eastern Standard Time,

tigger57ri@... writes:

> If I go through a check list of symptoms I probably only DON'T have one or

> two symptoms.

same here. the only thing that I have noted that I didn't have was migraine

headaches. everything else I can say yes to.

cindi

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Cindi......I have to agree that the up and down on me mentally

has taken its toll and will take awhile to heal.I often feel all messed

up badly .Thank-you for the encouragement ..Betty{Canada}

nc2406@... wrote:

> In a message dated 1/6/2005 10:16:44 AM Eastern Standard Time,

> bcmc@... writes:

>

> > ...I hope the switch to the thyroid [Canada drug]

> > can do the same for me as you for that darn Anxiety

>

>

> " And I do think one has to change their thought patterns a bit. We

> may have

> gotten so used to being panicky and depressed that we may have to remind

> ourselves that our brains are better now...that we do have the

> resources not to

> react in the same old ways.

>

> And I truly believe that if one has been severely affected by psychiatric

> symptoms of hypo, that it can take many many months for the brain to

> heal. "

>

>

> Cindi

>

>

>

>

> ------------------------------------------------------------------------

> *

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In a message dated 1/10/2005 11:57:02 AM Eastern Standard Time,

marin@... writes:

> I saw myself there, the way I was in the

> beginning of it, with these strange feelings that something drastic was

> going to happen to me.

i can remember actually training myself then to sit down and try to pinpoint

if there was anything really wrong in my life. I would do that to try to get

rid of the scared and anxious feeling that I had. sometimes i could pinpoint

something that maybe I was worrying or fretting over...but most of the time

there was nothing. so i would try to tell myself to just calm down. it makes

me mad i went thru so many years of that and didn't have too. i don't feel

scared anymore.

cindi

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As Cindi said, it is under the symptoms of impending doom, but where I first

saw it described that way was in my old Merck Manual under a major adrenal

tumor Pheochromocytoma. I had these feelings most of the time, during the

day time only, back before I was diagnosed with hypo. I was probably in the

initail stages of Hashi's, something like the way that that article or study

said on the Psychiatric Manifestations of Hashimoto's Thyroiditis, that

Cindi posted the link to. I saw myself there, the way I was in the

beginning of it, with these strange feelings that something drastic was

going to happen to me. It IS physical, but you feel at the time like you

are going insane or that nothing will ever be the same again. Well, they

certainly got THAT right!

Re: Re: Adrenal support---what are you

using

>

> noise bothers me a lot. Not as bad as it did before I started the armour.

But my daughter would click her hair clip, and I would screech! No one

understood that those noises 'hurt' my ears or something. And I often have

that nagging feeling you're talking about. So what does this mean?

> Cris

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In a message dated 1/14/2005 8:42:08 AM Eastern Standard Time,

martian.303@... writes:

> but don't those of us still searching for our armour to be up'd and our

> drs. to listen to us have that feeling? seriously - I have those feelings. I

> figure they're because I am so frustrated going from doctor to doctor and

> thinking I've finally hit the right dr. - and then they don't follow through.

I

> feel like my life is in limbo with this thyroid thing and get to a point that

I

> just want to give up.

>

that may be the reason now....but I had that impending doom feeling way back

in my 30s when i was still relatively healthy overall...and had absolutely no

reason to feel scared or anything. it was the hashimoto's affecting my brain.

and had nothing to do with reality.

cindi

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In a message dated 1/14/2005 8:43:32 AM Eastern Standard Time,

martian.303@... writes:

> I shouldn't be - I know there is no reason to be, but I can't help it. I

> just want to stay home.

>

chris....i understand this feeling totally. that's how it got for me.

" social withdrawal " is the way the symptom is listed. and then the associated

anxiety when you do go out.

cindi

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In a message dated 1/14/2005 11:22:14 AM Eastern Standard Time,

bcmc@... writes:

> Does that feeling ever go away!!!!.This is a big problem for me.Use

> to be free...now I am a shaking little bird...

Betty,

the answer is yes. Now i don't mean that you will never struggle at times

with going out and not being nervous and such....but overall, this feeling is

mostly over for me. The nervousness I might have now when out has more to do

with worrying about my energy and stamina level. I do have to be aware of

those times when I'm a little " off " and not push myself to do some things when

I'm

feeling a bit tired...but by and large, I can enjoy most everything without

being nervous or anxious and trembly and such.

cindi

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In a message dated 1/14/2005 11:52:43 AM Eastern Standard Time,

kzlists@... writes:

> . Phone phobia is also a biggie for me.

>

oh wow... i had that bad...and even now, still don't like to be on the phone

too much. even after i started treatment...i would get on the phone and get

so short of breath i could hardly talk and i think it was just an inner

nervousness about being on the phone. it was weird...because i used to NEVER

have a

problem with the phone. for a while there, i was having to get my husband to

make some calls for me. it's better now. but i still limit using the phone

if possible.

cindi

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In a message dated 1/14/2005 12:33:41 PM Eastern Standard Time,

lyn.worth@... writes:

> It had never happened before and I didn't know why it was happening. Then

> I started feeling nauseous every day at work but I was fine when I was at

> home. It was shortly after that that I started feeling really ill, seems

that

> this social phobia thing was a precursor

>

that has been one of the most aggravating things about it all. the social

phobia. and nervousness with crowds. i used to get up and give talks in front

of a couple hundred people with no problem. forget that now. but i do

remember those days and how carefree i once was.

cindi