selenium ?

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Individual needs will guide your dosages.

Despite the usual conservative estimates of up to 200mcgs, I take 600mcg quite

easily, in

part because of our depleted soils in NZ. (Up to 200mcgs is generally

considered a safe

maintainence level.)

However if you have concerns, you could see a holistic health professional able

to run

tests to determine your mineral levels. A naturopath and RN I know, arranges

the

evaluations, which involve going without any supplementation for a few days,

prior to

having your blood and urinalysis done.

Some natural therapists and holistic MDs will also do a hair analysis, to check

for heavy

metals (such as mercury etc).

I hope this clears up what Jody sent?

> > Anyhow, wanted to let you know something about

> > selenium...it *must* be balanced with

> > copper and zinc to work properly and to not make you

> > sick. Too much selenium can be

> > dangerous. I am one of those thyroid patients who

> > know the benefits, have seen the

> > consequences of not balancing properly with copper

> > and zinc also and do mostly

> > alternative medicine now.

>

> Thanks for the heads up Jody. Do you have any info on

> how you balance the copper and zinc and dosing

> amounts? I currently take zinc anyway but not copper.

> Also what have you found works with your thyroid

> issues? Have you tried iodine at all?

>

>

> Luv,

> Debby

> San , CA

> 380/237/180

>

>

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Thanks .. good to know Sue!

Luv,

Debby

San , CA

380/237/180

--- sue <tauttodream@...> wrote:

> hey debby

>

> i spoke to my dietician today regarding selenium.

> she

> advised that taking 300mcg-400mcg daily would not

> creat any type of adverse reaction with regards to

> imbalancing copper and zinc. That infor was for me

> just so anyone with a ? would want to check with

> their

> own dr.

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Hi Kathy,

Since my doctor gave me the liquid selenium (obtained from the vets as used for

thoroughbreds) I'm pleased with the results of using 300 - 600mcgs daily, for

several

months. (200mcg just wasn't enough in my particular case)

Unlike Jody, I do not supplement with copper (etc) partly because the food I eat

is either

grown on soils that have sufficient copper or are copper rich. (Tests for

mineral levels,

also came up ok.) Where does your food come from?

Our animals have supplementation at the farm, (and in the milking sheds and hen

houses

etc) because of NZ's depleted soils. However, we still may not get adequate

selenium

levels and zinc (etc), despite the added minerals. (Foe example, in this

country certain

populations, (non sea food eating communities) miss out not only on selenium but

zinc

and other minerals deficient in our soils.

That was my point when I suggested anyone with concerns about levels of

minerals, seek

personalised assessment from a suitably qualified healthcare professional who

can arrange

serum and other sample testing.

Anyway unless you're suffering from selenium poisoning, (or overdose) taking

200mcg per

day, isn't considered harmful, though it may not be much help if you are one of

those who

are found to need more.

My doctor determined I did need selenium supplementation, because of my vaccine

injury.

Upon testing, he also found heavy metal toxicity in my samples, which he said

may have

been leeched from dental amalgam fillings. So he gave me the liquid selenium

drops,

which have been a huge help towards improving my health.

If you email me privately I can send you a couple of pdf files on selenium

supplementation.

In the meantime, have a look at this video link below and see what you think.

J

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It's All In Your Head – watch this video

http://www.tv3.co.nz/VideoBrowseAll/60Minutes/tabid/371/Default.aspx

Alzheimer's, Parkinson's, chronic fatigue, multiple sclerosis and a host of

other diseases related to the brain and nervous system have been increasing

over the years. One ex-dentist thinks he knows why, but many of his peers

disagree with him.

Dr. Hal Huggins is a former American dentist who believes that a host of

diseases related to the brain and nervous system can be traced back to one

thing many of us have – fillings. Mercury amalgam fillings to be precise.

He says the mercury in these fillings are giving people mercury poisoning,

and he is not alone in his thoughts. Some of his peers who have studied this

agree with him.

However, the New Zealand Dental Association says Huggin's claims have little

or no scientific basis, and as a result, continue to give their patients

amalgam fillings. Reid investigates.

The World Health Organisation agrees with this view. We would like to

correct a statement previously published on this webpage, which said that

the WHO supported Dr Higgins' claims. In fact the WHO put out a Consensus

Statement in 1997 saying dental amalgam is safe and effective.

QUALITIES OF LIFE

Are your teeth toxic?

The mercury in 'silver' fillings would be hazardous waste in a river----yet

it's sitting in your mouth

Deardorff Tribune

December 11, 2005

A professional musician from Arlington Heights suffers from mysterious

rashes and lip blisters. A dental hygienist in Hoffman Estates battles

migraines. And a social worker in Prospect Heights is diagnosed with

multiple sclerosis.

All three tried treating their ailments using a controversial method: by

having dentists remove and replace their so-called " silver " amalgam tooth

fillings, which contain about 50 percent mercury. And all three swear they

experienced life-changing health improvements.

Their personal testimonies are part of what makes dental amalgam, the silver

lining for hundreds of millions of American mouths, one of the most divisive

issues in dentistry. Though it's one of the oldest materials in oral health

care--used by people of all ages for the last 150 years--anti-mercury groups

are pushing the startling message that mercury residing in the mouth can

leach into the body and cause illness.

" I thought my career was over, " said Arlington Heights' Matt Comerford, now

a trumpet player with the Lyric Opera who was suffering from painful sores

along his gums. He began investigating the metals in his mouth and

eventually had nine silver fillings replaced with a mercury-free

alter-native material.

" Within a week [of having the amalgams replaced], everything healed, "

Comerford said.

Amalgam, most dentists admit, is crude and ugly, but they say it's a

valuable option because it's strong, durable and relatively cheap.

And studies have shown that there is insufficient evidence to link it to

health problems (with the exception of allergic reactions), according to the

American Dental Association and several federal agencies, including the

Centers for Disease Control and Prevention.

Regardless, anti-mercury groups are appalled by the notion that the toxic

element, which is considered a hazardous waste by the Environmental

Protection Agency, is safe when it's packed inside a tooth. They argue that

although it was once thought to be inert inside the mouth, studies now show

that mercury can be emitted in minute amounts of vapor and absorbed by the

patient through inhalation and ingestion.

At Doctor's Data, a Chicago lab that specializes in trace-metals analysis,

clinicians have found that the amount of mercury in a person's stool is

highly correlated to the number of amalgams in the mouth.

" What stool testing drives home is that parts of the amalgams don't stay in

the teeth and we're swallowing mercury, " said Dean Bass, a chemist at

Doctor's Data and a scientist at Argonne National Laboratories. " But it

doesn't necessarily tell you how much mercury the body absorbs. "

A long-running controversy

The debate over silver amalgam dates at least to 1845, when the now-defunct

American Academy of Dental Surgeons asked its members to sign a pledge never

to use it. Though amalgam use has been declining since the 1970s because

more eye-pleasing options are available and cavities are smaller, federal

lawmakers have introduced a bipartisan bill to ban silver/mercury fillings

for children and pregnant and nursing women and to phase them out completely

in three years.

In California, dentists are required by state law to post a warning that

dental amalgams " cause exposure to mercury, a chemical known to the state of

California to cause birth defects or other reproductive harm. "

" The ADA is wrong that the issue is `safety.' The issue is `risk,' " said

Charlie Brown, national counsel for Consumers for Dental Choice and

Coalition for Mercury-Free Dentistry. He has filed a petition asking the

Federal Trade Commission to investigate the ADA and the Connecticut State

Dental Association for what the groups claims is making false, deceptive and

unsubstantiated claims in promoting silver/mercury amalgam.

" On this point scientists agree: Mercury is a virulent neurotoxin that can

permanently harm the developing brain of a child or fetus. Yet a recent

Zogby poll shows three in five people don't know that `silver' fillings have

mercury, " said Brown, who pointed out that silver fillings are in fact

mainly mercury.

The ADA staunchly defends the safety of amalgam, still used in about 30

percent of restorations. Amalgam, made by mixing elemental liquid mercury

with an alloy powder composed of silver, tin, copper and sometimes smaller

amounts of other metals, hardens quickly and tolerates saliva. This makes it

useful for treating squirmy young children or special-needs patients who

have a hard time sitting still.

Money and ethics

Some dental insurance companies don't cover the more expensive alternatives

to amalgam. And because science doesn't definitively link the silver

fillings to health problems, the ADA considers it unethical for dentists to

tell patients that removing amalgams can improve health.

" Amalgam has the longest history, the most data and the largest number of

studies supporting it. Yet time after time, we have to come back and address

it, " said Dr. Fred Eichmiller, director of the ADA Foundation's Paffenbarger

Resource Center, where alternatives to amalgams have been invented.

Critics argue that the issue also is environmental. Mercury is emitted into

the air when bodies with mercury fillings are cremated. It gets into the

water when fillings are removed and leftover material is not disposed of

properly.

" Amalgams don't need to be used in the 21st Century, " said Downers Grove

dentist Janet Stopka, who uses composite, porcelain and gold.

For consumers, the decision whether to replace amalgams can be a difficult

one. Urine, hair and feces can all be tested for mercury levels and

chelating agents can pull mercury out of the organs. But the results don't

necessarily tell whether there is enough mercury present to pose a health

risk and an official diagnosis of " mercury poisoning " can be tentative.

Swapping out old fillings can be expensive; each replacement can cost $75 to

$200. And there are no guaranteed benefits.

Nevertheless, Dawn Quast, a dental hygienist for Dr. Rothchild in

Hoffman Estates, decided to have four small fillings replaced after she

witnessed both small and profound improvements in Rothchild's patients who

had amalgams replaced.

" I had a migraine the night I had the last silver one removed and haven't

had one since [in 12 years], " Quast said.

Rothchild, a mercury-free dentist, said he doesn't push people into having

silver fillings removed.

No guarantees

" I never promise any medical cures because you can't, " he said. Instead, he

presents both sides of the issue on his Web site and provides patient

referrals. " If people come in asking about amalgams, I'll tell them, " he

said. " If they're there for basic dentistry, I don't say anything. "

Brocato of Prospect Heights went to several dentists before she made

the difficult decision to have her 16 silver fillings removed. Her problems

began in 1980, when she looked in the mirror one morning and noticed her

right eye was drooping. Seven years and dozens of health issues later, the

former social worker was crippled, diagnosed with multiple sclerosis.

It wasn't until Brocato heard about the Minneapolis-based group Dental

Amalgam Mercury Syndrome (DAMS), however, that she began to believe she had

mercury poisoning.

Two weeks after she had her last amalgams replaced, Brocato said her slurred

speech began to disappear and her strength and balance improved. She knows

the symptoms of MS come and go, which could explain her improved health, but

she is convinced that removing the silver fillings made a big difference.

" I have five pages of improvements, " said Brocato, 56, who is still in a

wheelchair but no longer takes medication for MS. She is now one of the

Illinois coordinators for DAMS. " I don't know how people can say there isn't

evidence. "

Help on the Web

For more information:

The American Dental Association: www.ada.org.

The International Academy of Oral Medicine & Toxicology: www.iaomt.org.

Consumers for Dental Choice, www.toxicteeth.org .

http://www.chicagotribune.com/features/lifestyle/health/chi-0512110315dec11,

1,4520800.column?coll=chi-health-hed

>

> Folks, this discussion re: selenium has me just plain frightened. What is

the specific

purpose of using it?

>

> For now, I think it's wise that I stick with my B's, Calcium, mag and omega

3's, along

with some C

>

> Kathy in AZ

> He is my defense, I shall not be move-ed...

>

>

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>

> Everyone is responsible for their own actions and only they feel the

> full personal consequence.

>

> Im quite happy to continue using selenium and whey, at doses of 2x300

> mcg per day.

>

> It is highly evident IME that selenium and whey definitely help to

> reduce the toxin load. The visible blemishes, the flashing dots. Even

> using the sf722 anti-fungal, the die off is not harsh at all.

>

> I personally rate this supplement highly for detox purposes. My

> research has led me to believe that about 600mcg is safe.

>

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Yes, individual circumstances determine the dosage/outcomes. For me the basic

maintainence level of 200mcg wasn't enough in the circumstances. Quite plainly,

I was far

too ill.

Like you x 2 doses @ 300mcg has been positive, with no adverse effects or

mineral

imbalance. My only regret was not starting the selenium @ 300mcg 2 x daily,

earlier.

All the best for your healing.

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http://www.mall-net.com/wsnutri/whichsel.html

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Don't know if you like brazil nuts or not but they are full of selenium, and

taste good!

louise

Is there a preferred brand of selenium? searching for selenium seems there

is one with yeast and one yeast free? any recommendations?

thanx

Joyce

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Selenium comes in MICRO grams ... mcg ... so 10,000 units??? seems unlikely.

 

Nuts are high in fat.  If you have trouble processing fat ... like I do ... you might have trouble with nuts.

 

Jaxi

On Wed, May 25, 2011 at 9:22 AM, Butts <renee-butts@...> wrote:

I went to an alternative doctor in Mexico for my breast cancer, and he has told me that I should not use Brazil nuts for my daily Selenium intake because they are too hard on the liver---

I was taking about 5 brazil nuts a day and he said to stop and just take the Yeast based Selenium  capsules (I take 2 - 5,000 units tablets per day)

But I do love the Brazil nuts---does anyone know if that is truly the case? Are they “hard on your liver”???

I thought someone on here might know---

Thanks,

 

From: iodine [mailto:iodine ] On Behalf Of B

Sent: Tuesday, May 24, 2011 11:30 PMiodine Subject: Re: Selenium ?

 

 

We don't recommend that people depend on brazil nuts for their daily selenium because in fact their content varies, and it's really important to

get the full selenium amount for the iodine protocol. There is nothing wrong with eating some brazil nuts in addition.There is not a preferred brand. If you can afford it, types with " methyl " in the name are the most bioavailable.

I like www.vitacost.com for online purchases, although there are other good sources like www.swansonsvitamins.com. Vitacost's NSI brand is high

quality at very fair prices. Swanson's also has high quality and fair prices, and they are, imo, the best source for magnesium oil.--At 08:42 PM 5/24/2011, you wrote:>Don't know if you like brazil nuts or not but they are full of selenium, and

>taste good!>louise>>>Is there a preferred brand of selenium? searching for selenium seems there>is one with yeast and one yeast free? any recommendations?>thanx>Joyce

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No—I was wrong—I wrote a note yesterday about it---I only take 400 mcg. (that’s 2 tablets)---But how do you know if you have trouble processing fat—what does that mean and how is it manifested?Thanks, From: iodine [mailto:iodine ] On Behalf Of jaxiSent: Thursday, May 26, 2011 9:06 AMiodine Subject: Re: Selenium ? Selenium comes in MICRO grams ... mcg ... so 10,000 units??? seems unlikely. Nuts are high in fat. If you have trouble processing fat ... like I do ... you might have trouble with nuts. JaxiOn Wed, May 25, 2011 at 9:22 AM, Butts <renee-butts@...> wrote: I went to an alternative doctor in Mexico for my breast cancer, and he has told me that I should not use Brazil nuts for my daily Selenium intake because they are too hard on the liver---I was taking about 5 brazil nuts a day and he said to stop and just take the Yeast based Selenium capsules (I take 2 - 5,000 units tablets per day)But I do love the Brazil nuts---does anyone know if that is truly the case? Are they “hard on your liver”??? I thought someone on here might know---Thanks, From: iodine [mailto:iodine ] On Behalf Of BSent: Tuesday, May 24, 2011 11:30 PMiodine Subject: Re: Selenium ? We don't recommend that people depend on brazil nuts for their daily selenium because in fact their content varies, and it's really important to get the full selenium amount for the iodine protocol. There is nothing wrong with eating some brazil nuts in addition.There is not a preferred brand. If you can afford it, types with " methyl " in the name are the most bioavailable.I like www.vitacost.com for online purchases, although there are other good sources like www.swansonsvitamins.com. Vitacost's NSI brand is high quality at very fair prices. Swanson's also has high quality and fair prices, and they are, imo, the best source for magnesium oil.--At 08:42 PM 5/24/2011, you wrote:>Don't know if you like brazil nuts or not but they are full of selenium, and>taste good!>louise>>>Is there a preferred brand of selenium? searching for selenium seems there>is one with yeast and one yeast free? any recommendations?>thanx>Joyce>>>>------------------------------------>>All off topic posts should go to the IodineOT >group IodineOT/>>>The NEW MEMBER DOCUMENT (#1 on the list) >iodine/files/01%20NEW%20MEMBERS%20-%20READ%20FIRST/ >