Guest guest Posted December 13, 2004 Report Share Posted December 13, 2004 In Andy's book I think he recommends selenomethionine as the form of selenium you should take is there a reason why selenomethionie is preferred over other selenium forms? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 16, 2007 Report Share Posted July 16, 2007 An environmental doctor I know treats patients with selenium and with some success. I tried it and the good things said about sel are true. It does good things and the best thing about it is that he gets his supply from a vet at a fraction of the price, yet with all the same benefits as the more expensive label brands. candidiasis/message/54814 > > > > > --- > > Hey debby > > > > I asked my dietician about selenium and she > > indicated > > that the study is very old and that it affected > > people > > with previous sugar issues. > > > > It does not apply to anyone who previously didnt > > have > > sugar issues. > > > ------------- > Search others for their virtues, thyself for thy vices -- lin > > New group! Curing Candida: curingcandida/ > > My son Hunter Hudson (10/11/04) http://debbypadilla.0catch.com/hunter/ > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 16, 2007 Report Share Posted July 16, 2007 Thanks for your response. I just realized that I don't know what the recommended dose is? I'm totally clueless when it comes to supps.. lots to learn. Luv, Debby San , CA 380/239/180 --- Karaka <tepaatu@...> wrote: > An environmental doctor I know treats patients with > selenium and with some success. > > I tried it and the good things said about sel are > true. It does good things and the best > thing about it is that he gets his supply from a vet > at a fraction of the price, yet with all the > same benefits as the more expensive label brands. > > candidiasis/message/54814 ------------- Search others for their virtues, thyself for thy vices -- lin New group! Curing Candida: curingcandida/ My son Hunter Hudson (10/11/04) http://debbypadilla.0catch.com/hunter/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 17, 2007 Report Share Posted July 17, 2007 I think 400 mcg per day would be sufficient. I take two 200 mcg capsules per day. You can probably take more but there is some concern about taking too much. The 400 mcg seems to work well and is well within the " safe " range. Gail > > > An environmental doctor I know treats patients with > > selenium and with some success. > > > > I tried it and the good things said about sel are > > true. It does good things and the best > > thing about it is that he gets his supply from a vet > > at a fraction of the price, yet with all the > > same benefits as the more expensive label brands. > > > > > candidiasis/message/54814 > > > ------------- > Search others for their virtues, thyself for thy vices -- lin > > New group! Curing Candida: curingcandida/ > > My son Hunter Hudson (10/11/04) http://debbypadilla.0catch.com/hunter/ > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 17, 2007 Report Share Posted July 17, 2007 Unlike some, because of health regulations here, I am not legally permitted to prescribe, hence the guesswork referred to in my earlier post below: candidiasis/message/55852 > > > An environmental doctor I know treats patients with > > selenium and with some success. > > > > I tried it and the good things said about sel are > > true. It does good things and the best > > thing about it is that he gets his supply from a vet > > at a fraction of the price, yet with all the > > same benefits as the more expensive label brands. > > > > > candidiasis/message/54814 > > > ------------- > Search others for their virtues, thyself for thy vices -- lin > > New group! Curing Candida: curingcandida/ > > My son Hunter Hudson (10/11/04) http://debbypadilla.0catch.com/hunter/ > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 17, 2007 Report Share Posted July 17, 2007 Debby, selenium dosage should be about 200 mcg for healthy people. Higher for those who are ill, about 400-600 mcg. Tumours started to shrink at around 1100 mcg in the research, and 3200 mcg daily has been given with only fingernail deformities showing up as an early indicator of toxicity. Duncan > > > An environmental doctor I know treats patients with > > selenium and with some success. > > > > I tried it and the good things said about sel are > > true. It does good things and the best > > thing about it is that he gets his supply from a vet > > at a fraction of the price, yet with all the > > same benefits as the more expensive label brands. > > > > > candidiasis/message/54814 > > > ------------- > Search others for their virtues, thyself for thy vices -- lin > > New group! Curing Candida: curingcandida/ > > My son Hunter Hudson (10/11/04) http://debbypadilla.0catch.com/hunter/ > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 17, 2007 Report Share Posted July 17, 2007 Thanks Duncan.. I'll adjust my dose accordingly. Looking forward to sharing my results. Luv, Debby San , CA 380/239/180 --- Duncan Crow <duncancrow@...> wrote: > Debby, selenium dosage should be about 200 mcg for > healthy people. > Higher for those who are ill, about 400-600 mcg. > Tumours started to > shrink at around 1100 mcg in the research, and 3200 > mcg daily has > been given with only fingernail deformities showing > up as an early > indicator of toxicity. ------------- The chief cause of failure and unhappiness is trading what you want most for what you want now. -- Zig Ziglar New group! Curing Candida: curingcandida/ My son Hunter Hudson (10/11/04) http://debbypadilla.0catch.com/hunter/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 17, 2007 Report Share Posted July 17, 2007 _Dietary Supplement Fact Sheet: Selenium_ (http://ods.od.nih.gov/factsheets/selenium.asp) - Here's an interesting link especially since low body temp and thyroid were being discussed too. In a message dated 7/17/2007 12:57:28 P.M. Central Daylight Time, duncancrow@... writes: Debby, selenium dosage should be about 200 mcg for healthy people. Higher for those who are ill, about 400-600 mcg. Tumours started to shrink at around 1100 mcg in the research, and 3200 mcg daily has been given with only fingernail deformities showing up as an early indicator of toxicity. Duncan ************************************** Get a sneak peek of the all-new AOL at http://discover.aol.com/memed/aolcom30tour Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 17, 2007 Report Share Posted July 17, 2007 Thanks Gail! There is so much to learn when it comes to supplements. Luv, Debby San , CA 380/239/189 --- Gail <gmgblues@...> wrote: > I think 400 mcg per day would be sufficient. I take > two 200 mcg > capsules per day. You can probably take more but > there is some > concern about taking too much. The 400 mcg seems to > work well and is > well within the " safe " range. ------------- The chief cause of failure and unhappiness is trading what you want most for what you want now. -- Zig Ziglar New group! Curing Candida: curingcandida/ My son Hunter Hudson (10/11/04) http://debbypadilla.0catch.com/hunter/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 17, 2007 Report Share Posted July 17, 2007 Thanks so much for your time. 400mg seems to be the consensus here, so I'll probably go for that. Luv, Debby San , CA 380/239/189 --- Karaka <karaka@...> wrote: > Unlike some, because of health regulations here, I > am not legally permitted to prescribe, > hence the guesswork referred to in my earlier post > below: > > candidiasis/message/55852 ------------- The chief cause of failure and unhappiness is trading what you want most for what you want now. -- Zig Ziglar New group! Curing Candida: curingcandida/ My son Hunter Hudson (10/11/04) http://debbypadilla.0catch.com/hunter/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 18, 2007 Report Share Posted July 18, 2007 The National Institute of Health's Sloan-Kettering Memorial Cancer Center is the organization that denied that their own research showed significant results against cancer with vitmain b-17, Laetrile, and then fired Ralph Moss for revealing their coverup to the press. Although the perpetrators are probably no longer there, the coverup forever tainted public perception of the organization's impartiality, and rightly so, given that the organization has a lot to lose by losing the pharmaceutical companies' funding. Duncan > > > > > _Dietary Supplement Fact Sheet: Selenium_ > (http://ods.od.nih.gov/factsheets/selenium.asp) - Here's an interesting link especially since low body temp > and thyroid were being discussed too. > > > In a message dated 7/17/2007 12:57:28 P.M. Central Daylight Time, > duncancrow@... writes: > > > > > Debby, selenium dosage should be about 200 mcg for healthy people. > Higher for those who are ill, about 400-600 mcg. Tumours started to > shrink at around 1100 mcg in the research, and 3200 mcg daily has > been given with only fingernail deformities showing up as an early > indicator of toxicity. > > Duncan > > > > > > > > > > > ************************************** Get a sneak peek of the all- new AOL at > http://discover.aol.com/memed/aolcom30tour > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 18, 2007 Report Share Posted July 18, 2007 While I am legally prevented from prescribing, I can say for a couple of months I took between 300 - 600 mcg daily, before I noticed positive benefits. I didn't observe improvement on the more conservative dosages (200mcg) 'officially' recommended by doctors. The stuff I used, my doctor obtained from the vets in thoroughbred race-horse country, which means it's more affordable and also is in a readily absorbed liquid. Good luck Debby. > > > Unlike some, because of health regulations here, I > > am not legally permitted to prescribe, > > hence the guesswork referred to in my earlier post > > below: > > > > > candidiasis/message/55852 > > > ------------- > The chief cause of failure and unhappiness is trading what you want most for what you want now. -- Zig Ziglar > > New group! Curing Candida: curingcandida/ > > My son Hunter Hudson (10/11/04) http://debbypadilla.0catch.com/hunter/ > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 19, 2007 Report Share Posted July 19, 2007 Wouldn't it be great if med schools were not " for sale " ? My sis goes to Drexel med school, and reported to me that they cancelled a course on alternative medicine recently. Why? It was so popular among the students that the school's Big Pharma donors had it killed. The Hippocratic oath is meaningless these days. > > The National Institute of Health's Sloan-Kettering Memorial Cancer > Center is the organization that denied that their own research showed > significant results against cancer with vitmain b-17, Laetrile, and > then fired Ralph Moss for revealing their coverup to the press. > > Although the perpetrators are probably no longer there, the coverup > forever tainted public perception of the organization's impartiality, > and rightly so, given that the organization has a lot to lose by > losing the pharmaceutical companies' funding. > > Duncan > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 19, 2007 Report Share Posted July 19, 2007 --- debby are there any side effects with selenium that we should be aware of? ALso what are you thoughts on whey? sue ________________________________________________________________________________\ ____ oneSearch: Finally, mobile search that gives answers, not web links. http://mobile./mobileweb/onesearch?refer=1ONXIC Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 19, 2007 Report Share Posted July 19, 2007 ---I took > between 300 - 600 mcg daily, before I noticed > positive benefits. > What were the positive benefits that you noticed? sue ________________________________________________________________________________\ ____ oneSearch: Finally, mobile search that gives answers, not web links. http://mobile./mobileweb/onesearch?refer=1ONXIC Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 22, 2007 Report Share Posted July 22, 2007 --- sue <tauttodream@...> wrote: > are there any side effects with selenium that we > should be aware of? Hi Sue.. I don't know of any side effects with selenium, but I do know that many vitamins and minerals are meant to be kept in balance, ie. their ratio to one another. If you write to me privately and remind me, I'll send you a few pdf's I have on the subject. > ALso what are you thoughts on whey? I usually do not knock anything I have not personally tried and ruled out for myself. Since I am an open-minded and curious person, I tend to try a lot of things, but not necessarily believe they will help. I'm actually not inclined to try whey myself unless it's a last option as there are many things that I believe will help more, especially sticking to the diet faithfully. Often those dietary lapses are much more damaging than anything we do or do not take in pill form. I have heard of some people who do well on it, and others who don't. I figure it's one of those things you have to try for yourself. Luv, Debby San , CA 380/238/180 ------------- The chief cause of failure and unhappiness is trading what you want most for what you want now. -- Zig Ziglar New group! Curing Candida: curingcandida/ My son Hunter Hudson (10/11/04) http://debbypadilla.0catch.com/hunter/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 22, 2007 Report Share Posted July 22, 2007 Anyhow, wanted to let you know something about selenium...it *must* be balanced with copper and zinc to work properly and to not make you sick. Too much selenium can be dangerous. I am one of those thyroid patients who know the benefits, have seen the consequences of not balancing properly with copper and zinc also and do mostly alternative medicine now. Just an FYI, Jody " Symptoms of selenium toxicity include hair, tooth and nail loss and dermatitis. " (Ontario) " The toxicity of most forms of selenium is low and the toxicity depends on the chemical form of selenium. The acute ingestion of selenious acid is almost invariably fatal, preceded by stupor, hypotension, and respiratory depression. Chronic selenium poisoning has been reported in China where changes in the hair and nails resulted from excessive environmental exposures to selenium. Garlic odor on the breath is an indication of excessive selenium exposure as a result of the expiration of dimethyl selenide. The US National Toxicology Program lists selenium sulfide as an animal carcinogen, but there is no evidence that other selenium compounds are carcinogens. " (Barceloux) " Selenium toxicity can occur from either acute or chronic exposure. ... Individuals often develop characteristic symptoms including a garlic or sour breath odor, nausea, vomiting, abdominal pain, restlessness, hypersalivation, and muscle spasms. Death is preceded by refractory hypotension from direct myocardial depression and peripheral vasodilation. ... Heavily exposed individuals may demonstrate gastroenteritis [inflammation of the lining of the stomach and intestines], hair and nail changes, and neurologic manifestations including acroparesthesias [a disease marked by tingling, numbness, and stiffness in the extremities], weakness, convulsions, and decreased cognitive function. " (Strukle) " The optimal size of dose for supplementation is controversial with respect to both efficacy and safety. In China, selenosis was observed in some individuals with a sustained intake of at least 750 micrograms/day [0.75 milligrams/day]but was not observed among others with intakes exceeding 1 mg. [1 milligram/day]... A large-scale Se human intervention trial in the United States suggests no harm due to long-term Se intake of more than 200 micrograms/day [0.2 milligrams/day]. " () Hofbauer and colleagues report " a patient in whom, along with standard therapy, administration of large intravenous doses of selenite for sepsis secondary to pneumonia resulted in development of marked hypothyroidism. In addition, severe iodine deficiency was noted, and supplementation with iodine led to normalization of thyroid function. " (Hofbauer) http://www.bccancer.bc.ca/PPI/UnconventionalTherapies/Selenium.htm Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 23, 2007 Report Share Posted July 23, 2007 Folks, this discussion re: selenium has me just plain frightened. What is the specific purpose of using it? For now, I think it's wise that I stick with my B's, Calcium, mag and omega 3's, along with some C Kathy in AZ He is my defense, I shall not be move-ed... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 23, 2007 Report Share Posted July 23, 2007 Everyone is responsible for their own actions and only they feel the full personal consequence. Im quite happy to continue using selenium and whey, at doses of 2x300 mcg per day. It is highly evident IME that selenium and whey definitely help to reduce the toxin load. The visible blemishes, the flashing dots. Even using the sf722 anti-fungal, the die off is not harsh at all. I personally rate this supplement highly for detox purposes. My research has led me to believe that about 600mcg is safe. > > Folks, this discussion re: selenium has me just plain frightened. What is the specific purpose of using it? > > For now, I think it's wise that I stick with my B's, Calcium, mag and omega 3's, along with some C > > Kathy in AZ > He is my defense, I shall not be move-ed... > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 23, 2007 Report Share Posted July 23, 2007 > > It is highly evident IME that selenium and whey > definitely help to > reduce the toxin load. The visible blemishes, the > flashing dots. Even > using the sf722 anti-fungal, the die off is not > harsh at all. I have just begun to use selenium and whey so i can let you all know the outcome. So far the gas is diminishing and i have tons of effective energy. My legs are a bit achey if that means anything. I am using it as a possible way to eliminate or reduce the toxic load i may be carrying. So far so good but it is only 4 days! sue .. > What is the specific purpose of using it? ________________________________________________________________________________\ ____ Sick sense of humor? Visit TV's Comedy with an Edge to see what's on, when. http://tv./collections/222 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 23, 2007 Report Share Posted July 23, 2007 There's nothing to be frightened about - unless one is planning on overdosing which is somewhere in the mcg thousands I think. Many people on this list take selenium with very positive results. I followed the Candida diet pretty strictly for 8 mo with very little improvement. Then I added the whey, inulin and selenium and within a few weeks had improved significantly - didn't feel sick all the time anymore, had increased energy, no more constipation, etc. I take a 200 mcg capsule of selenium twice a day and wouldn't give it up for anything. Course I wouldn't give up the whey and inulin either because all three together really work wonders. Gail > > Folks, this discussion re: selenium has me just plain frightened. What is the specific purpose of using it? > > For now, I think it's wise that I stick with my B's, Calcium, mag and omega 3's, along with some C > > Kathy in AZ > He is my defense, I shall not be move-ed... > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 23, 2007 Report Share Posted July 23, 2007 hi gail, I just started taking selenium at 300mcg daily and bhey shakes for 4 days. I do have more energy and feel like i can focus better, if that makes sense. I havent begun inulin, what can you tell me about it. thanks sue ________________________________________________________________________________\ ____ oneSearch: Finally, mobile search that gives answers, not web links. http://mobile./mobileweb/onesearch?refer=1ONXIC Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 24, 2007 Report Share Posted July 24, 2007 Kathy, selenium is crucial to energy production and detoxification, most healthy people and about longerll people who are ill are low in it, and their health tends to improve when they are not selenium- deficient. Without selenium on the other hand a person's health regime is impaired. Supplementation is much wiser than not doing it. Duncan > > Folks, this discussion re: selenium has me just plain frightened. What is the specific purpose of using it? > > For now, I think it's wise that I stick with my B's, Calcium, mag and omega 3's, along with some C > > Kathy in AZ > He is my defense, I shall not be move-ed... > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 24, 2007 Report Share Posted July 24, 2007 --- Karaka <karaka@...> wrote: > Anyhow, wanted to let you know something about > selenium...it *must* be balanced with > copper and zinc to work properly and to not make you > sick. Too much selenium can be > dangerous. I am one of those thyroid patients who > know the benefits, have seen the > consequences of not balancing properly with copper > and zinc also and do mostly > alternative medicine now. Thanks for the heads up Jody. Do you have any info on how you balance the copper and zinc and dosing amounts? I currently take zinc anyway but not copper. Also what have you found works with your thyroid issues? Have you tried iodine at all? Luv, Debby San , CA 380/237/180 ------------- The chief cause of failure and unhappiness is trading what you want most for what you want now. -- Zig Ziglar New group! Curing Candida: curingcandida/ My son Hunter Hudson (10/11/04) http://debbypadilla.0catch.com/hunter/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 24, 2007 Report Share Posted July 24, 2007 hey debby i spoke to my dietician today regarding selenium. she advised that taking 300mcg-400mcg daily would not creat any type of adverse reaction with regards to imbalancing copper and zinc. That infor was for me just so anyone with a ? would want to check with their own dr. just to let you know. sue ________________________________________________________________________________\ ____ Take the Internet to Go: Go puts the Internet in your pocket: mail, news, photos & more. http://mobile./go?refer=1GNXIC Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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