Re: isocort to hc cream

[Guest guest]

wrote:

>

> All the more reason to watch inert ingredients carefully. " Inert " is a word I

hate.. Nothing its inert! LOL

>

I was horrified after ordering Thyroid S to then go and read the

complete ingredients list. WHAT a bunch of junk in it.

sol

[Guest guest]

wrote:

>

> All the more reason to watch inert ingredients carefully. " Inert " is a word I

hate.. Nothing its inert! LOL

>

I was horrified after ordering Thyroid S to then go and read the

complete ingredients list. WHAT a bunch of junk in it.

sol

[Guest guest]

I prefer the pills myself. I have plenty of digestive issues, but the HC

pills don't seem to bother me at all. Go figure. I certainly have enough

other things I can't take or eat. Actually, the pills seem to work better

for me. I'm still going to have to supplement with the cream for awhile

since I'm now taking about 12.5mg more per day than the doctor prescribed.

The bitter tasted didn't bother me after the first day. Not chocolate, but

it isn't hideous to me by any means. When I've had to take prednisone in teh

past, it was the same thing. I think it falls into my body telling me what

it needs. It needs teh cortisol, so the medicine doesn't taste horrible to

me. That's my theory anyway. :-)

Cherie

Experience: that most brutal of teachers. But you learn, my God do you

learn.--C.S.

> harley1401 wrote:

> > Hello All,

> > Can someone please describe for me the proper way to swith from

> > Isocort to HC cream? I remember reading about a process and dosing

> > schedule but I cant seem to find it.

> You would switch out one dose at a time. Switch one, then in about a

> week switch a second, and so on.

>

> > Also It appears that most people

> > here do better on the cream than on the pills and was wondering if you

> > could jump from isocort to the cream without ever trying the

> > prescription HC pill form??

> I don't think by any means 'most' here do better with cream. Some

> minority of us do, of which I'm one.

> If you have known stomach issues, lots of stomach pain and irritation,

> known history of ulcers, or reflux, then it would be worth considering

> switching right to the 1% HC cream.

> But if you have no stomach issues, and can be reliable about taking an

> HC pill dose with some food, then do try pills first. Most of the

> stomach complaints I have read with the pills relate to people not

> taking HC with food, or not taking it with food with enough fat/protein

> in it. But some people do experience stomach irritation even taking it

> with food.

> If dosing HC cream will be convenient is another issue. It is easier and

> more unobtrusive to take a pill in public than to apply cream, LOL.

> LOL,

> sol

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

I prefer the pills myself. I have plenty of digestive issues, but the HC

pills don't seem to bother me at all. Go figure. I certainly have enough

other things I can't take or eat. Actually, the pills seem to work better

for me. I'm still going to have to supplement with the cream for awhile

since I'm now taking about 12.5mg more per day than the doctor prescribed.

The bitter tasted didn't bother me after the first day. Not chocolate, but

it isn't hideous to me by any means. When I've had to take prednisone in teh

past, it was the same thing. I think it falls into my body telling me what

it needs. It needs teh cortisol, so the medicine doesn't taste horrible to

me. That's my theory anyway. :-)

Cherie

Experience: that most brutal of teachers. But you learn, my God do you

learn.--C.S.

> harley1401 wrote:

> > Hello All,

> > Can someone please describe for me the proper way to swith from

> > Isocort to HC cream? I remember reading about a process and dosing

> > schedule but I cant seem to find it.

> You would switch out one dose at a time. Switch one, then in about a

> week switch a second, and so on.

>

> > Also It appears that most people

> > here do better on the cream than on the pills and was wondering if you

> > could jump from isocort to the cream without ever trying the

> > prescription HC pill form??

> I don't think by any means 'most' here do better with cream. Some

> minority of us do, of which I'm one.

> If you have known stomach issues, lots of stomach pain and irritation,

> known history of ulcers, or reflux, then it would be worth considering

> switching right to the 1% HC cream.

> But if you have no stomach issues, and can be reliable about taking an

> HC pill dose with some food, then do try pills first. Most of the

> stomach complaints I have read with the pills relate to people not

> taking HC with food, or not taking it with food with enough fat/protein

> in it. But some people do experience stomach irritation even taking it

> with food.

> If dosing HC cream will be convenient is another issue. It is easier and

> more unobtrusive to take a pill in public than to apply cream, LOL.

> LOL,

> sol

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

thanks sol

best wishes.

Nil

Re: isocort to hc cream

It isn't a carrier oil per se. It is a solvent, and will transport

substances into tissues. I know of people who have made their own

topical vitamin delivery system by mixing dissolved or liquid vitamins

or vitamin powder into diluted DMSO.

I doubt if a pharmacy would touch it, as it isnt' approved for human use

except for interstitial cystitis, and it is also used or used to be used

to

[Guest guest]

thanks sol

best wishes.

Nil

Re: isocort to hc cream

It isn't a carrier oil per se. It is a solvent, and will transport

substances into tissues. I know of people who have made their own

topical vitamin delivery system by mixing dissolved or liquid vitamins

or vitamin powder into diluted DMSO.

I doubt if a pharmacy would touch it, as it isnt' approved for human use

except for interstitial cystitis, and it is also used or used to be used

to

[Guest guest]

thanks sol

best wishes.

Nil

Re: isocort to hc cream

It isn't a carrier oil per se. It is a solvent, and will transport

substances into tissues. I know of people who have made their own

topical vitamin delivery system by mixing dissolved or liquid vitamins

or vitamin powder into diluted DMSO.

I doubt if a pharmacy would touch it, as it isnt' approved for human use

except for interstitial cystitis, and it is also used or used to be used

to

[Guest guest]

thankyou for the info... to be honest i was really thinking of going with the

cream because of how hard a time i am having getting the pills...i can get them

from a soarce but am only allowed to buy so many in so much time so i am scared

that if i start and raise and find a sweet spot then i cant get more i am up the

creek??? you know what I mean???without a cooperative doc this really stinks.

anyways that why i was debating the cream

Cherie wrote: I prefer the pills myself. I

have plenty of digestive issues, but the HC

pills don't seem to bother me at all. Go figure. I certainly have enough

other things I can't take or eat. Actually, the pills seem to work better

for me. I'm still going to have to supplement with the cream for awhile

since I'm now taking about 12.5mg more per day than the doctor prescribed.

The bitter tasted didn't bother me after the first day. Not chocolate, but

it isn't hideous to me by any means. When I've had to take prednisone in teh

past, it was the same thing. I think it falls into my body telling me what

it needs. It needs teh cortisol, so the medicine doesn't taste horrible to

me. That's my theory anyway. :-)

Cherie

Experience: that most brutal of teachers. But you learn, my God do you

learn.--C.S.

> harley1401 wrote:

> > Hello All,

> > Can someone please describe for me the proper way to swith from

> > Isocort to HC cream? I remember reading about a process and dosing

> > schedule but I cant seem to find it.

> You would switch out one dose at a time. Switch one, then in about a

> week switch a second, and so on.

>

> > Also It appears that most people

> > here do better on the cream than on the pills and was wondering if you

> > could jump from isocort to the cream without ever trying the

> > prescription HC pill form??

> I don't think by any means 'most' here do better with cream. Some

> minority of us do, of which I'm one.

> If you have known stomach issues, lots of stomach pain and irritation,

> known history of ulcers, or reflux, then it would be worth considering

> switching right to the 1% HC cream.

> But if you have no stomach issues, and can be reliable about taking an

> HC pill dose with some food, then do try pills first. Most of the

> stomach complaints I have read with the pills relate to people not

> taking HC with food, or not taking it with food with enough fat/protein

> in it. But some people do experience stomach irritation even taking it

> with food.

> If dosing HC cream will be convenient is another issue. It is easier and

> more unobtrusive to take a pill in public than to apply cream, LOL.

> LOL,

> sol

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

thankyou for the info... to be honest i was really thinking of going with the

cream because of how hard a time i am having getting the pills...i can get them

from a soarce but am only allowed to buy so many in so much time so i am scared

that if i start and raise and find a sweet spot then i cant get more i am up the

creek??? you know what I mean???without a cooperative doc this really stinks.

anyways that why i was debating the cream

Cherie wrote: I prefer the pills myself. I

have plenty of digestive issues, but the HC

pills don't seem to bother me at all. Go figure. I certainly have enough

other things I can't take or eat. Actually, the pills seem to work better

for me. I'm still going to have to supplement with the cream for awhile

since I'm now taking about 12.5mg more per day than the doctor prescribed.

The bitter tasted didn't bother me after the first day. Not chocolate, but

it isn't hideous to me by any means. When I've had to take prednisone in teh

past, it was the same thing. I think it falls into my body telling me what

it needs. It needs teh cortisol, so the medicine doesn't taste horrible to

me. That's my theory anyway. :-)

Cherie

Experience: that most brutal of teachers. But you learn, my God do you

learn.--C.S.

> harley1401 wrote:

> > Hello All,

> > Can someone please describe for me the proper way to swith from

> > Isocort to HC cream? I remember reading about a process and dosing

> > schedule but I cant seem to find it.

> You would switch out one dose at a time. Switch one, then in about a

> week switch a second, and so on.

>

> > Also It appears that most people

> > here do better on the cream than on the pills and was wondering if you

> > could jump from isocort to the cream without ever trying the

> > prescription HC pill form??

> I don't think by any means 'most' here do better with cream. Some

> minority of us do, of which I'm one.

> If you have known stomach issues, lots of stomach pain and irritation,

> known history of ulcers, or reflux, then it would be worth considering

> switching right to the 1% HC cream.

> But if you have no stomach issues, and can be reliable about taking an

> HC pill dose with some food, then do try pills first. Most of the

> stomach complaints I have read with the pills relate to people not

> taking HC with food, or not taking it with food with enough fat/protein

> in it. But some people do experience stomach irritation even taking it

> with food.

> If dosing HC cream will be convenient is another issue. It is easier and

> more unobtrusive to take a pill in public than to apply cream, LOL.

> LOL,

> sol

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

I have had no trouble obtaining a pretty good stockpile of HC from one

of the sources that we have and I have ordered from them twice now.

-- In NaturalThyroidHormonesADRENALS , Fred

wrote:

>

> thankyou for the info... to be honest i was really thinking of going

with the cream because of how hard a time i am having getting the

pills...i can get them from a soarce but am only allowed to buy so

many in so much time so i am scared that if i start and raise and find

a sweet spot then i cant get more i am up the creek??? you know what I

mean???without a cooperative doc this really stinks. anyways that why

i was debating the cream

[Guest guest]

I have had no trouble obtaining a pretty good stockpile of HC from one

of the sources that we have and I have ordered from them twice now.

-- In NaturalThyroidHormonesADRENALS , Fred

wrote:

>

> thankyou for the info... to be honest i was really thinking of going

with the cream because of how hard a time i am having getting the

pills...i can get them from a soarce but am only allowed to buy so

many in so much time so i am scared that if i start and raise and find

a sweet spot then i cant get more i am up the creek??? you know what I

mean???without a cooperative doc this really stinks. anyways that why

i was debating the cream

[Guest guest]

, are you on all cream now? Since I switched over to all cream I need

less. I am down to 30 mg the past couple of days. It seems to be getting in

the cells better, especially if I use it close to the veins like the insides

of the elbows and behind the knees. It is working much better than the

Isocort.

Did you know that the hydrocortisone pills contain mineral oil? That is why

I decided against them for now.

Cheri

Re: isocort to hc cream

I have had no trouble obtaining a pretty good stockpile of HC from one

of the sources that we have and I have ordered from them twice now.

.

[Guest guest]

Hi Cheri,

I am almost on all cream HC also. Checking my box of tablets of HC, it states

each tablet contains 10 mg of HC and Lactose Monohydrate EP, no mineral oil.

Maybe the mineral oil content depends on the brand of HC.

Pamela

MsSquarepants wrote:

, are you on all cream now? Since I switched over to all cream I need

less. I am down to 30 mg the past couple of days. It seems to be getting in

the cells better, especially if I use it close to the veins like the insides

of the elbows and behind the knees. It is working much better than the

Isocort.

Did you know that the hydrocortisone pills contain mineral oil? That is why

I decided against them for now.

Cheri

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[Guest guest]

Maybe. I was looking at the website for Cortef. What brand to you have?

Cheri

-----Original Message-----

Hi Cheri,

I am almost on all cream HC also. Checking my box of tablets of HC, it

states each tablet contains 10 mg of HC and Lactose Monohydrate EP, no

mineral oil. Maybe the mineral oil content depends on the brand of HC.

Pamela

.

[Guest guest]

Well, there is no reason you can't use both if you want. I am because the

dose the doctor prescribed for me is lower than what I'm actually taking. In

fact, I'm going to have to use mostly cream for the next couple of days

because my pharmacy didn't have enough to fill my entire script. I thought

they said the rest would be in this past Friday and they meant this coming

Friday. So now I only have a few of the pills left. The cream works too

though, so I'm not worried. I just prefer the pills. In fact I would think

it could be helpful to be able to use both. If you have pills youcan take

with you if you are away from the house or if it is inconvient to use the

cream. Just my thoughts anyway. :-) Keep looking for a good doc!

Cherie

Experience: that most brutal of teachers. But you learn, my God do you

learn.--C.S.

> thankyou for the info... to be honest i was really thinking of

> going with the cream because of how hard a time i am having

> getting the pills...i can get them from a soarce but am only

> allowed to buy so many in so much time so i am scared that if i

> start and raise and find a sweet spot then i cant get more i am

> up the creek??? you know what I mean???without a cooperative doc

> this really stinks. anyways that why i was debating the cream

>

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[Guest guest]

That's good to know. They are probably a better brand...less toxic reaction.

I was shocked to read that about Cortef. Mineral oil should NEVER be in any

food product and to think people used to drink it as a laxative.

Cheri

RE: isocort to hc cream

Merck Sharp & Dohme

Pamela

MsSquarepants wrote: Maybe. I was looking at

the website for Cortef. What brand to you have?

Cheri

-----Original Message-----

.

[Guest guest]

No, just using it for my bed-time dose. The two times that I've had

thyroid dumps I was using cream which probably supports the

proposition that the cream absorbs better, but the variability of

using cream, where to put it, how well or how fast it will absorb

from wherever you put it, etc., makes me nervous about subbing it out

completely for the pills. Also, taking it five times/day, with two

or three of those doses occurring when I am at work makes it tough

for me to get away to smear it on myself. I didn't know that the

pills contain mineral oil but I know that the contain lactose which

isn't ideal for me either. Until we found the Corticool gel, the

cream I was using had mineral oil in it too. Is the oil bad in the

GI, or just bad in general?

>

> , are you on all cream now? Since I switched over to all cream

I need

> less. I am down to 30 mg the past couple of days. It seems to be

getting in

> the cells better, especially if I use it close to the veins like

the insides

> of the elbows and behind the knees. It is working much better than

the

> Isocort.

>

> Did you know that the hydrocortisone pills contain mineral oil?

That is why

> I decided against them for now.

>

> Cheri

> -----Original Message-----

[Guest guest]

Oh yeah, I have never gotten the actual brand Cortef, it's always

generic HC, even when filled via prescription as opposed to from off of

the source list.

>

> Maybe. I was looking at the website for Cortef. What brand to you

have?

[Guest guest]

It is bad in general but worse in the GI. The cream is much better on my GI.

I have been using my Cortaid which didn't seem to work right away but does

seem to be working well now (I don't think I gave it enough time). It has

some bad things in it but it is much better on my GI than Isocort was. I

didn't even realize I was having issues with Isocort and my GI until I

completed my switch. Plus it absorbs better.

At work, putting it on your inner elbows of each arm works pretty well.

Especially if you have a brand that absorbs well which my Cortaid seems too.

My cheaper brand is much greasier and takes forever to absorb in comparison.

Cheri

-----Original Message-----

Is the oil bad in the

GI, or just bad in general?

.

[Guest guest]

Then you are probably okay. I should have specified Cortef in my original

post. However, HC in general is hard on the GII.

Cheri

-----Original Message-----

Oh yeah, I have never gotten the actual brand Cortef, it's always

generic HC, even when filled via prescription as opposed to from off of

the source list.

.

[Guest guest]

Did you ever weigh in on the inactive ingredients in the Corticool gel

that we found? It rubs in very easy and with no grease at all.

Inactive ingredients are:

hypromellose, menthol, polyoxyl 35 castor oil, propylene glycol,

purified water, SD alcohol 40-B.

I'm increasing Armour tnite so I'm going to do as I did last time and

" stress-dose " by using the gel for my first dose in the AM and the

bed-time dose. I should probably just get it over with and swap out

all doses for good and see if it helps the GI but I thought that I was

getting the GI under control. It's clearly not though as per earlier

discussion.

>

> It is bad in general but worse in the GI. The cream is much better

on my GI.

> I have been using my Cortaid which didn't seem to work right away

but does

> seem to be working well now (I don't think I gave it enough time).

It has

> some bad things in it but it is much better on my GI than Isocort was. I

> didn't even realize I was having issues with Isocort and my GI until I

> completed my switch. Plus it absorbs better.

>

> At work, putting it on your inner elbows of each arm works pretty well.

> Especially if you have a brand that absorbs well which my Cortaid

seems too.

> My cheaper brand is much greasier and takes forever to absorb in

comparison.

>

> Cheri

[Guest guest]

Did you ever weigh in on the inactive ingredients in the Corticool gel

that we found? It rubs in very easy and with no grease at all.

Inactive ingredients are:

hypromellose, menthol, polyoxyl 35 castor oil, propylene glycol,

purified water, SD alcohol 40-B.

I'm increasing Armour tnite so I'm going to do as I did last time and

" stress-dose " by using the gel for my first dose in the AM and the

bed-time dose. I should probably just get it over with and swap out

all doses for good and see if it helps the GI but I thought that I was

getting the GI under control. It's clearly not though as per earlier

discussion.

>

> It is bad in general but worse in the GI. The cream is much better

on my GI.

> I have been using my Cortaid which didn't seem to work right away

but does

> seem to be working well now (I don't think I gave it enough time).

It has

> some bad things in it but it is much better on my GI than Isocort was. I

> didn't even realize I was having issues with Isocort and my GI until I

> completed my switch. Plus it absorbs better.

>

> At work, putting it on your inner elbows of each arm works pretty well.

> Especially if you have a brand that absorbs well which my Cortaid

seems too.

> My cheaper brand is much greasier and takes forever to absorb in

comparison.

>

> Cheri

[Guest guest]

Did you ever weigh in on the inactive ingredients in the Corticool gel

that we found? It rubs in very easy and with no grease at all.

Inactive ingredients are:

hypromellose, menthol, polyoxyl 35 castor oil, propylene glycol,

purified water, SD alcohol 40-B.

I'm increasing Armour tnite so I'm going to do as I did last time and

" stress-dose " by using the gel for my first dose in the AM and the

bed-time dose. I should probably just get it over with and swap out

all doses for good and see if it helps the GI but I thought that I was

getting the GI under control. It's clearly not though as per earlier

discussion.

>

> It is bad in general but worse in the GI. The cream is much better

on my GI.

> I have been using my Cortaid which didn't seem to work right away

but does

> seem to be working well now (I don't think I gave it enough time).

It has

> some bad things in it but it is much better on my GI than Isocort was. I

> didn't even realize I was having issues with Isocort and my GI until I

> completed my switch. Plus it absorbs better.

>

> At work, putting it on your inner elbows of each arm works pretty well.

> Especially if you have a brand that absorbs well which my Cortaid

seems too.

> My cheaper brand is much greasier and takes forever to absorb in

comparison.

>

> Cheri

[Guest guest]

Mineral oil is very bad. We should all me mindful about mineral oil in oral

meds and creams/ointments. Mineral oil prevents the absorption of calcium,

vitamin A, D, E and K.

Pamela

jasrich wrote: No, just using

it for my bed-time dose. The two times that I've had

thyroid dumps I was using cream which probably supports the

proposition that the cream absorbs better, but the variability of

using cream, where to put it, how well or how fast it will absorb

from wherever you put it, etc., makes me nervous about subbing it out

completely for the pills. Also, taking it five times/day, with two

or three of those doses occurring when I am at work makes it tough

for me to get away to smear it on myself. I didn't know that the

pills contain mineral oil but I know that the contain lactose which

isn't ideal for me either. Until we found the Corticool gel, the

cream I was using had mineral oil in it too. Is the oil bad in the

GI, or just bad in general?

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[Guest guest]

Well, it looks a lot better than what I currently use. Mine has one paraben

in it.

Cheri

-----Original Message-----

Did you ever weigh in on the inactive ingredients in the Corticool gel

that we found? It rubs in very easy and with no grease at all.

Inactive ingredients are:

hypromellose, menthol, polyoxyl 35 castor oil, propylene glycol,

purified water, SD alcohol 40-B.

I'm increasing Armour tnite so I'm going to do as I did last time and

" stress-dose " by using the gel for my first dose in the AM and the

bed-time dose. I should probably just get it over with and swap out

all doses for good and see if it helps the GI but I thought that I was

getting the GI under control. It's clearly not though as per earlier

discussion.

.