Re: isocort to hc cream

[Guest guest]

You cna go to HC cream right from Iocort, but I would swap out ONE dose

every 3-4 days starting wiht the AM dosing and working through the day.

Monitor your temps carefully, and use a 1 pellet of Isocort per 2.5mg HC

cream conversin. If your temps start averaging 99 or higher you need ot

stop thyroi dand you will know this is the dose of Hc that is working

for you as that is from thyroid rushing to the cells.

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[Guest guest]

You cna go to HC cream right from Iocort, but I would swap out ONE dose

every 3-4 days starting wiht the AM dosing and working through the day.

Monitor your temps carefully, and use a 1 pellet of Isocort per 2.5mg HC

cream conversin. If your temps start averaging 99 or higher you need ot

stop thyroi dand you will know this is the dose of Hc that is working

for you as that is from thyroid rushing to the cells.

--

Artistic Grooming- Hurricane WV

http://www.stopthethyroidmadness.com/

http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/NaturalThyroidHormonesADRENALS/

[Guest guest]

You cna go to HC cream right from Iocort, but I would swap out ONE dose

every 3-4 days starting wiht the AM dosing and working through the day.

Monitor your temps carefully, and use a 1 pellet of Isocort per 2.5mg HC

cream conversin. If your temps start averaging 99 or higher you need ot

stop thyroi dand you will know this is the dose of Hc that is working

for you as that is from thyroid rushing to the cells.

--

Artistic Grooming- Hurricane WV

http://www.stopthethyroidmadness.com/

http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/NaturalThyroidHormonesADRENALS/

[Guest guest]

what is the coversion for the cream?? How much cream equals 1 pellet???

wrote: You cna go to HC

cream right from Iocort, but I would swap out ONE dose

every 3-4 days starting wiht the AM dosing and working through the day.

Monitor your temps carefully, and use a 1 pellet of Isocort per 2.5mg HC

cream conversin. If your temps start averaging 99 or higher you need ot

stop thyroi dand you will know this is the dose of Hc that is working

for you as that is from thyroid rushing to the cells.

--

Artistic Grooming- Hurricane WV

http://www.stopthethyroidmadness.com/

http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/NaturalThyroidHormonesADRENALS/

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[Guest guest]

1% HC cream continas 10MG HC per 1/4 tsp.

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[Guest guest]

1% HC cream continas 10MG HC per 1/4 tsp.

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[Guest guest]

1% HC cream continas 10MG HC per 1/4 tsp.

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[Guest guest]

I use a very simple conversion of .1 ml = 1 mg HC. I just use all even

numbers to make dosing easier, since my syringe is marked off in .2 ml

increments. So I dose .8 ml, .6 ml, .4 ml, and .2 ml. This equates to

4 notches on the syringe, then 3, 2, and 1. It also adds up to 2 ml,

which equals 20 mg. This takes into account that the cream is more

potent than the pill form, since you don't lose any to digestion. The

stomachache disappeared the minute I switched over, and I switched

directly from Isocort, counting each pill as .2 ml or 1 notch.

Barb

Fred wrote:

>

> what is the coversion for the cream?? How much cream equals 1

pellet???

>

> wrote: You cna go to

HC cream right from Iocort, but I would swap out ONE dose

> every 3-4 days starting wiht the AM dosing and working through the

day.

> Monitor your temps carefully, and use a 1 pellet of Isocort per

2.5mg HC

> cream conversin. If your temps start averaging 99 or higher you

need ot

> stop thyroi dand you will know this is the dose of Hc that is

working

> for you as that is from thyroid rushing to the cells.

>

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>

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> http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/NaturalThyroidHormonesADRENALS/

>

>

>

>

>

>

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>

>

[Guest guest]

One thing worries me about cream issue.. If it is 1 percent HC than it is 99

percent other substances. If person has multiple chemical sensistivity like me

wouldn't this hurt in long term?

bw

Nil

Re: isocort to hc cream

I use a very simple conversion of .1 ml = 1 mg HC. I just use all even

numbers to make dosing easier, since my syringe is marked off in .2 ml

[Guest guest]

You will only know if you try. I have MCS too and so far am doing better on

the HC cream than on the pills. Cortef contains mineral oil and mineral oil

is really bad for the gut. It isn't good for the skin but it is much worse

taking it orally.

Cheri

Re: isocort to hc cream

One thing worries me about cream issue.. If it is 1 percent HC than it is

99 percent other substances. If person has multiple chemical sensistivity

like me wouldn't this hurt in long term?

bw

Nil

.

[Guest guest]

You will only know if you try. I have MCS too and so far am doing better on

the HC cream than on the pills. Cortef contains mineral oil and mineral oil

is really bad for the gut. It isn't good for the skin but it is much worse

taking it orally.

Cheri

Re: isocort to hc cream

One thing worries me about cream issue.. If it is 1 percent HC than it is

99 percent other substances. If person has multiple chemical sensistivity

like me wouldn't this hurt in long term?

bw

Nil

.

[Guest guest]

i am not very knowledgable on this but i heard that dmso could be used as

carrier oil. i am not sure if compounding pharmacies will prepare it or if it

willbe suitable for hc?

bw

Nil

RE: isocort to hc cream

You will only know if you try. I have MCS too and so far am doing better on

the HC cream than on the pills. Cortef contains mineral oil and mineral oil

is really bad for the gut. It isn't good for the skin but it is much worse

taking it orally.

[Guest guest]

harley1401 wrote:

> Hello All,

> Can someone please describe for me the proper way to swith from

> Isocort to HC cream? I remember reading about a process and dosing

> schedule but I cant seem to find it.

You would switch out one dose at a time. Switch one, then in about a

week switch a second, and so on.

> Also It appears that most people

> here do better on the cream than on the pills and was wondering if you

> could jump from isocort to the cream without ever trying the

> prescription HC pill form??

I don't think by any means 'most' here do better with cream. Some

minority of us do, of which I'm one.

If you have known stomach issues, lots of stomach pain and irritation,

known history of ulcers, or reflux, then it would be worth considering

switching right to the 1% HC cream.

But if you have no stomach issues, and can be reliable about taking an

HC pill dose with some food, then do try pills first. Most of the

stomach complaints I have read with the pills relate to people not

taking HC with food, or not taking it with food with enough fat/protein

in it. But some people do experience stomach irritation even taking it

with food.

If dosing HC cream will be convenient is another issue. It is easier and

more unobtrusive to take a pill in public than to apply cream, LOL.

LOL,

sol

[Guest guest]

harley1401 wrote:

> Hello All,

> Can someone please describe for me the proper way to swith from

> Isocort to HC cream? I remember reading about a process and dosing

> schedule but I cant seem to find it.

You would switch out one dose at a time. Switch one, then in about a

week switch a second, and so on.

> Also It appears that most people

> here do better on the cream than on the pills and was wondering if you

> could jump from isocort to the cream without ever trying the

> prescription HC pill form??

I don't think by any means 'most' here do better with cream. Some

minority of us do, of which I'm one.

If you have known stomach issues, lots of stomach pain and irritation,

known history of ulcers, or reflux, then it would be worth considering

switching right to the 1% HC cream.

But if you have no stomach issues, and can be reliable about taking an

HC pill dose with some food, then do try pills first. Most of the

stomach complaints I have read with the pills relate to people not

taking HC with food, or not taking it with food with enough fat/protein

in it. But some people do experience stomach irritation even taking it

with food.

If dosing HC cream will be convenient is another issue. It is easier and

more unobtrusive to take a pill in public than to apply cream, LOL.

LOL,

sol

[Guest guest]

>>One thing worries me about cream issue.. If it is 1 percent HC than it is 99

percent other substances. If person has multiple chemical sensistivity like me

wouldn't this hurt in long term?<<

All the more reason to watch inert ingredients carefully. " Inert " is a word I

hate.. Nothing its inert! LOL

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[Guest guest]

>>One thing worries me about cream issue.. If it is 1 percent HC than it is 99

percent other substances. If person has multiple chemical sensistivity like me

wouldn't this hurt in long term?<<

All the more reason to watch inert ingredients carefully. " Inert " is a word I

hate.. Nothing its inert! LOL

--

Artistic Grooming- Hurricane WV

http://www.stopthethyroidmadness.com/

http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/NaturalThyroidHormonesADRENALS/

[Guest guest]

>>One thing worries me about cream issue.. If it is 1 percent HC than it is 99

percent other substances. If person has multiple chemical sensistivity like me

wouldn't this hurt in long term?<<

All the more reason to watch inert ingredients carefully. " Inert " is a word I

hate.. Nothing its inert! LOL

--

Artistic Grooming- Hurricane WV

http://www.stopthethyroidmadness.com/

http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/NaturalThyroidHormonesADRENALS/

[Guest guest]

Yes, but everything is a trade off, isn't it? I have never found one

single food, supplement, or med that is 100% either good or bad or is

totally without any trade off.

For me the trade off results in cream being the clear winner as the

lesser 'evil'. Stomach pain and perhaps another ulcer is not an option

I'm willing to risk.

Think about benefits vs. risk of each and see how it shakes out for YOU.

sol

Nil wrote:

> One thing worries me about cream issue.. If it is 1 percent HC than it is 99

percent other substances. If person has multiple chemical sensistivity like me

wouldn't this hurt in long term?

>

[Guest guest]

Yes, but everything is a trade off, isn't it? I have never found one

single food, supplement, or med that is 100% either good or bad or is

totally without any trade off.

For me the trade off results in cream being the clear winner as the

lesser 'evil'. Stomach pain and perhaps another ulcer is not an option

I'm willing to risk.

Think about benefits vs. risk of each and see how it shakes out for YOU.

sol

Nil wrote:

> One thing worries me about cream issue.. If it is 1 percent HC than it is 99

percent other substances. If person has multiple chemical sensistivity like me

wouldn't this hurt in long term?

>

[Guest guest]

Yes, but everything is a trade off, isn't it? I have never found one

single food, supplement, or med that is 100% either good or bad or is

totally without any trade off.

For me the trade off results in cream being the clear winner as the

lesser 'evil'. Stomach pain and perhaps another ulcer is not an option

I'm willing to risk.

Think about benefits vs. risk of each and see how it shakes out for YOU.

sol

Nil wrote:

> One thing worries me about cream issue.. If it is 1 percent HC than it is 99

percent other substances. If person has multiple chemical sensistivity like me

wouldn't this hurt in long term?

>

[Guest guest]

The 1% has to do with the amount of cortisone, like the strength of a

prescription. Just check

the other ingredients and pick accordingly.

Linn

>

> Nil wrote:

> > One thing worries me about cream issue.. If it is 1 percent HC than it is 99

percent other

substances. If person has multiple chemical sensistivity like me wouldn't this

hurt in long

term?

> >

>

[Guest guest]

The 1% has to do with the amount of cortisone, like the strength of a

prescription. Just check

the other ingredients and pick accordingly.

Linn

>

> Nil wrote:

> > One thing worries me about cream issue.. If it is 1 percent HC than it is 99

percent other

substances. If person has multiple chemical sensistivity like me wouldn't this

hurt in long

term?

> >

>

[Guest guest]

It isn't a carrier oil per se. It is a solvent, and will transport

substances into tissues. I know of people who have made their own

topical vitamin delivery system by mixing dissolved or liquid vitamins

or vitamin powder into diluted DMSO.

I doubt if a pharmacy would touch it, as it isnt' approved for human use

except for interstitial cystitis, and it is also used or used to be used

to preserve some kinds of tissue for transplants into humans.

It is very interesting stuff, and I've used it for years.

www.jacoblab.com

and Appleton " MSM the Definitive Guide " and Morton " DMSO " .

There is also a yahoo email group devoted to DMSO

http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/DimethylSulfoxide-DMSO/

If you are interested in using DMSO I suggest reading the books, Dr.

s website, and for practical advice on how to make topicals with it

join the DMSO group.

sol

Nil wrote:

> i am not very knowledgable on this but i heard that dmso could be used as

carrier oil. i am not sure if compounding pharmacies will prepare it or if it

willbe suitable for hc?

> bw

> Nil

>

[Guest guest]

It isn't a carrier oil per se. It is a solvent, and will transport

substances into tissues. I know of people who have made their own

topical vitamin delivery system by mixing dissolved or liquid vitamins

or vitamin powder into diluted DMSO.

I doubt if a pharmacy would touch it, as it isnt' approved for human use

except for interstitial cystitis, and it is also used or used to be used

to preserve some kinds of tissue for transplants into humans.

It is very interesting stuff, and I've used it for years.

www.jacoblab.com

and Appleton " MSM the Definitive Guide " and Morton " DMSO " .

There is also a yahoo email group devoted to DMSO

http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/DimethylSulfoxide-DMSO/

If you are interested in using DMSO I suggest reading the books, Dr.

s website, and for practical advice on how to make topicals with it

join the DMSO group.

sol

Nil wrote:

> i am not very knowledgable on this but i heard that dmso could be used as

carrier oil. i am not sure if compounding pharmacies will prepare it or if it

willbe suitable for hc?

> bw

> Nil

>

[Guest guest]

wrote:

>

> All the more reason to watch inert ingredients carefully. " Inert " is a word I

hate.. Nothing its inert! LOL

>

I was horrified after ordering Thyroid S to then go and read the

complete ingredients list. WHAT a bunch of junk in it.

sol