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This question is certainly not an offenseive one, ...

From my personal experience, I believe my son was vaccine-injured. He

regressed. He was not born autistic. He used to wave and had a few

words and gestures and eye contact; he would blow kisses and reached

all of his developmental milestones on time...and then it all went away

and he stopped the words and the gestures and the eye contact. At the

same time, all the medical clues were there- the ear infections, the

excema, the constipation, more ear infections= more antibiotics, the

yeast - didn't realize all the " diaper rash " was a serious problem at

the time...

So as a baby he was genetically predisposed, perhaps, to developing

autism, but I believe in my heart that if he had not had all the

vaccines and the antibiotics that he may not have developed a full-

blown case of autism. We have the genetics in our family of crohns and

celiac and diabetes and thyroid issues and other autoimmune issues so

it is really no surprise that the diet is working for him.

And again-- it is not for every child!! Some children have autism from

birth and this is very likely a different subset of autism. This being

said, however, the autism -from -birth kids could also be heavy-metal

injured from the womb, when the mother got a flu shot or the rhogam

shots or cavities filled or ate too much tuna fish, etc etc. and then

their predisposition to the genetic variables may have started earlier,

and the diet can still be very effective for them!!

I believe there is genetic autism (as told by chromosomal testing-

fragile x, rhett's syndrome, etc) and there is acquired autism. It is

helpful to rule out the genetic/chromosomal types as you are making

your decision whether or not the diet would be helpful.

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Expect a miracle!

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> I don't know how to ask this question and I apologize if I

> offended

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> anyone but here goes. From reading so many of the emails I wonder

> how

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> many of the children became autistic after vaccines? Are any of

> the

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> children on the special diets the ones born with autism? If so

> how has

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> the diet worked for you? I only ask because I need to keep my

> head

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> out of the sand and ask the hard questions so I know I am doing

> all I

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> can to help Marisa. My best resources are the other families out

> there

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> who have been there and are there. Friends look at you like your

> crazy

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> when I speak of a different diet. So I am asking, please excuse

> me if

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> I offended anyone, I just need some advice.

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There is a part of me that beleives Marisa was born this way,

especially now that I am watching my 3rd child. Marisa had a few

words, her milestones were within range, but I watch Norene and she is

just a motor mouth which Marisa is not and was not. Around that 18

month mark, if anything fell out of her hands it was terrible, the

screaming and nothing could comfort her. When I became pregnant with

Norene I knew I had to do something to get Marisa to go to her dad

instead of me. I was the only person and my late father who she could

comfort her. I was always afraid to take her out, when she would

explode at the doctors office I made excuses, too tired, didn't eat,

nap time anything but say out loud WHY IS SHE DOING THIS!!!! Now I

know about sensory issues, as ababy I could put her in her crib and she

would sleep 12 hours but never call for me when she woke up. Unlike

Norene or my oldest who always did and do. Marisa up until just a few

months ago never would or wanted to sleep with us(I Know) but still.

She only fell asleep in my arms 5 times. She is now 4 and a half and

last night was the 3rd time she came to us and wanted to sleep with us,

this is so much better then that terrible scream and wakng everyone

up. All I know is I don't know I keep talking (or typing) hoping I

might figure it all out. I expect miracles everyday- as I told them in

the IEP the other day I expect greatness from Marisa just as I do from

the other two girls and I hope they too expect greatness from Marisa or

get off this train. Sorry to go on.

Thank you for being there

O n Friday, June 6, 2003, at 11:18 PM, Harlan wrote:

> This question is certainly not an offenseive one, ...

> From my personal experience, I believe my son was vaccine-injured. He

> regressed. He was not born autistic. He used to wave and had a few

> words and gestures and eye contact; he would blow kisses and reached

> all of his developmental milestones on time...and then it all went away

> and he stopped the words and the gestures and the eye contact. At the

> same time, all the medical clues were there- the ear infections, the

> excema, the constipation, more ear infections= more antibiotics, the

> yeast - didn't realize all the " diaper rash " was a serious problem at

> the time...

> So as a baby he was genetically predisposed, perhaps, to developing

> autism, but I believe in my heart that if he had not had all the

> vaccines and the antibiotics that he may not have developed a full-

> blown case of autism. We have the genetics in our family of crohns and

> celiac and diabetes and thyroid issues and other autoimmune issues so

> it is really no surprise that the diet is working for him.

> And again-- it is not for every child!! Some children have autism from

> birth and this is very likely a different subset of autism. This being

> said, however, the autism -from -birth kids could also be heavy-metal

> injured from the womb, when the mother got a flu shot or the rhogam

> shots or cavities filled or ate too much tuna fish, etc etc. and then

> their predisposition to the genetic variables may have started earlier,

> and the diet can still be very effective for them!!

> I believe there is genetic autism (as told by chromosomal testing-

> fragile x, rhett's syndrome, etc) and there is acquired autism. It is

> helpful to rule out the genetic/chromosomal types as you are making

> your decision whether or not the diet would be helpful.

>

> --

>

> Expect a miracle!

>

> Question

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>> I don't know how to ask this question and I apologize if I

>> offended

>>

>> anyone but here goes. From reading so many of the emails I wonder

>> how

>>

>> many of the children became autistic after vaccines? Are any of

>> the

>>

>> children on the special diets the ones born with autism? If so

>> how has

>>

>> the diet worked for you? I only ask because I need to keep my

>> head

>>

>> out of the sand and ask the hard questions so I know I am doing

>> all I

>>

>> can to help Marisa. My best resources are the other families out

>> there

>>

>> who have been there and are there. Friends look at you like your

>> crazy

>>

>> when I speak of a different diet. So I am asking, please excuse

>> me if

>>

>> I offended anyone, I just need some advice.

>>

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[Guest guest]

Sometimes we never figure out what caused the Autism, we all have ideas but it could be any number of things or a combination of things, listed quite a few in her post. The important thing is to not blame ourselves and just stay in the here and now and do the best that we can. I am a firm believer that eventually it does come, it just takes time. That is wonderful that you expect greatness from your daughter, sometimes I think we all feel sorry for our kids at one time or another. I have done this many times and still do occasionally. However feeling sorry for Abby isnt going to make her more functioning. I have goals for her, not unreasonable goals but they are there. She has progressed so much in the last 4 years. She went from a child that scored a perfect 0% on her speech evaluation on her initial IEP at 2 1/2. Well she just had her last IEP for PPI and she scored 94%! She is now 6 and has blossomed and come out of her shell so much in the last year. She is reading well above her age level, social skills are still hard for her, however she is getting much better, she only appears as "shy" now, rather then "differant". I believe that the sky is the limit for Abby and she can grow up and do anything she sets her mind to. I believe that for all of our kids, they are all miracles and will grow up and touch so many lives along the way. Abby has made me stop and appreciate all the little things in life, to never take anything for granted.

Pennie

Abby's Mom

Pennie

Abby's Mom

[Guest guest]

, all I can say is to work your ass off over the next years to come. Abby is now 6 and noone really knows but us... it all pays off in the end.

Pennie

[Guest guest]

Pennie, We live in Royal Oak, we should get together sometime. Burger

King is now one of Marisas favorite places.

On Saturday, June 7, 2003, at 07:25 AM, Ploveabby@... wrote:

> Sometimes we never figure out what caused the Autism, we all have

> ideas but it could be any number of things or a combination of things,

> listed quite a few in her post. The important thing is to

> not blame ourselves and just stay in the here and now and do the best

> that we can. I am a firm believer that eventually it does come, it

> just takes time. That is wonderful that you expect greatness from your

> daughter, sometimes I think we all feel sorry for our kids at one time

> or another. I have done this many times and still do occasionally.

> However feeling sorry for Abby isnt going to make her more

> functioning. I have goals for her, not unreasonable goals but they are

> there. She has progressed so much in the last 4 years. She went from a

> child that scored a perfect 0% on her speech evaluation on her initial

> IEP at 2 1/2. Well she just had her last IEP for PPI and she scored

> 94%! She is now 6 and has blossomed and come out of her shell s! o

> much in the last year. She is reading well above her age level, social

> skills are still hard for her, however she is getting much better, she

> only appears as " shy " now, rather then " differant " . I believe that the

> sky is the limit for Abby and she can grow up and do anything she sets

> her mind to. I believe that for all of our kids, they are all miracles

> and will grow up and touch so many lives along the way. Abby has made

> me stop and appreciate all the little things in life, to never take

> anything for granted.

>

> Pennie

> Abby's Mom

>

> Pennie

> Abby's Mom

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>

>

> Support Everyday Miracles by shopping online at IGIVE.COM, where a

> portion of every purchase is donated to this support network. Proceeds

> received will be used for a variety of functions, such as educational

> activities, therapy, famiy outings, etc. http://www.igive.com/EDM

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[Guest guest]

I look forward to next month-I'll try and deal with the anxiety of

child care before than. I always get nervous when a new situation

arises. My kids are 7, 4 and half and 22 months. But nothing ventured

nothing gained!

Marisa's Mom

On Saturday, June 7, 2003, at 05:15 PM, Ploveabby@... wrote:

> Well maybe next month, school will be out and hey at the Ferndale

> Group we have great childcare!!

>

> Pennie

> Abby's Mom

>

>

>

> Support Everyday Miracles by shopping online at IGIVE.COM, where a

> portion of every purchase is donated to this support network. Proceeds

> received will be used for a variety of functions, such as educational

> activities, therapy, famiy outings, etc. http://www.igive.com/EDM

>

>

[Guest guest]

Hi. I'm not really sure about my son - but I think he may have been born

autistic. He never developed language (until VERY recently) and the other

skills (waving, eye contact), he did (and still does). I didn't actually

notice any " difference " in him before and after. As far as the diet, we've

kind of limited some of the things that he eats, but not drastically - more

of choosing a particular brand rather than omitting something completely.

It does seem to make a bit of a difference (if he eats something that he

shouldn't he gets really hyper). But that's about it. When I have to give

him food different than what everyone else is eating, I just say " nope, he

can't have that " . You shouldn't worry about it too much. Just explain that

his body reacts negatively to certain foods, the same way a persons body

reacts if they eat strawberries or peanuts and they're allergic. My

experience has been that most people are very understanding once they

understand why.

Sue

>

>Reply-To: EverydayMiraclesAutism

>To: EverydayMiraclesAutism

>Subject: Re: Question

>Date: Fri, 06 Jun 2003 22:18:14 -0500

>

>This question is certainly not an offenseive one, ...

>From my personal experience, I believe my son was vaccine-injured. He

>regressed. He was not born autistic. He used to wave and had a few

>words and gestures and eye contact; he would blow kisses and reached

>all of his developmental milestones on time...and then it all went away

>and he stopped the words and the gestures and the eye contact. At the

>same time, all the medical clues were there- the ear infections, the

>excema, the constipation, more ear infections= more antibiotics, the

>yeast - didn't realize all the " diaper rash " was a serious problem at

>the time...

>So as a baby he was genetically predisposed, perhaps, to developing

>autism, but I believe in my heart that if he had not had all the

>vaccines and the antibiotics that he may not have developed a full-

>blown case of autism. We have the genetics in our family of crohns and

>celiac and diabetes and thyroid issues and other autoimmune issues so

>it is really no surprise that the diet is working for him.

>And again-- it is not for every child!! Some children have autism from

>birth and this is very likely a different subset of autism. This being

>said, however, the autism -from -birth kids could also be heavy-metal

>injured from the womb, when the mother got a flu shot or the rhogam

>shots or cavities filled or ate too much tuna fish, etc etc. and then

>their predisposition to the genetic variables may have started earlier,

>and the diet can still be very effective for them!!

>I believe there is genetic autism (as told by chromosomal testing-

>fragile x, rhett's syndrome, etc) and there is acquired autism. It is

>helpful to rule out the genetic/chromosomal types as you are making

>your decision whether or not the diet would be helpful.

>

>--

>

>Expect a miracle!

>

> Question

>

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > I don't know how to ask this question and I apologize if I

> > offended

> >

> > anyone but here goes. From reading so many of the emails I wonder

> > how

> >

> > many of the children became autistic after vaccines? Are any of

> > the

> >

> > children on the special diets the ones born with autism? If so

> > how has

> >

> > the diet worked for you? I only ask because I need to keep my

> > head

> >

> > out of the sand and ask the hard questions so I know I am doing

> > all I

> >

> > can to help Marisa. My best resources are the other families out

> > there

> >

> > who have been there and are there. Friends look at you like your

> > crazy

> >

> > when I speak of a different diet. So I am asking, please excuse

> > me if

> >

> > I offended anyone, I just need some advice.

> >

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> > portion of every purchase is donated to this support network.

> > Proceeds received will be used for a variety of functions, such as

> > educational activities, therapy, famiy outings, etc.

> > http://www.igive.com/EDM

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[Guest guest]

, Abby's teacher Ellen does the child care for the Ferndale meeting, I am kinda partial.. LOL

Pennie

Abby's Mom

[Guest guest]

I dont think there is any criteria, other then RSVP'ing for child care by the date that is listed each month by or . You could double check with them just to make sure.

Pennie

Abby's Mom

[Guest guest]

Thanks Lynn, I always forget the important stuff.

Pennie Abby's Mom

[Guest guest]

What is the criteria can I bring all 3 kids ?

> , Abby's teacher Ellen does the child care for the Ferndale

> meeting, I am kinda partial.. LOL

>

> Pennie

> Abby's Mom

>

>

>

> Support Everyday Miracles by shopping online at IGIVE.COM, where a

> portion of every purchase is donated to this support network. Proceeds

> received will be used for a variety of functions, such as educational

> activities, therapy, famiy outings, etc. http://www.igive.com/EDM

>

>

[Guest guest]

Childcare: Be sure to bring along a bag with diapers/wipes and special snacks

that your children like and can eat.

Everything should be marked with your name so they know who the bag belongs

to and who get the snacks inside the bag.

If they can't yet drink from a paper cup, you should have sippy cups in the

bag, too. You may want to stay in the childcare

room for just a few minutes the first time you bring the children so that

you can meet Ellen and let her know who your

children are and which bag belongs to them.

Lynn

Ploveabby@... wrote:

I dont think there is any criteria,

other then RSVP'ing for child care by the date that is listed each month

by or . You could double check with them just to make sure.

Pennie

Abby's Mom

Support Everyday Miracles by shopping online at IGIVE.COM, where a

portion of every purchase is donated to this support network. Proceeds received

will be used for a variety of functions, such as educational activities,

therapy, famiy outings, etc. http://www.igive.com/EDM

[Guest guest]

You don't need anything but good comfortable shoes and energy. They are great workouts.

Barb

-- QUESTION

Do you do the walk away the pounds on a treadmill? How does that work? I don't have a treadmill is why I was asking.

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[Guest guest]

Well you also need a DVD player or a VCR! LOL

Roxie ( the wise guy)

QUESTION

Do you do the walk away the pounds on a treadmill? How does that work? I don't have a treadmill is why I was asking.

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[Guest guest]

OOPS! You are so right!

Barb

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Do you do the walk away the pounds on a treadmill? How does that work? I don't have a treadmill is why I was asking.

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[Guest guest]

CONGRATULATIONS, !!!

Talk to your doctor about your weight watchers program. Weight Watcher is an excellent program to be on while pregnant because it ensures you eat healthy!!! As far as the points, check with your WW leader or check the website.

Again...congratulations!!!

Cindy

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[Guest guest]

Wow! Congratulations! I am sure you can follow WW it seems to be a very healthy plan. If you don't get an answer let me know and I can ask on the boards.

Joya

I found out a couple days ago I am pregnant but still want to be in the weight loss groups I am on and eat healthy and have support... How many points should I be taken in? .

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[Guest guest]

CONGRATS!!!!!!!

You need to talk to your doctor about weight-loss during pregnancy. My friend and coworker has been losing weight on her own program and became pregnant. Her doctor told her to keep being careful with her eating, but to try to maintain her current weight (she has about 75 pounds to go).

Take the program in to your doctor, talk it over, and see what s/he thinks. Does your doctor have a nurse practitioner that also works in the office? This person might be better able to spend the time going over this with you.

June

-- Question

I found out a couple days ago I am pregnant but still want to be in the weight loss groups I am on and eat healthy and have support... How many points should I be taken in?

[Guest guest]

Yes Congrads!

Re: Question

CONGRATULATIONS, !!!

Talk to your doctor about your weight watchers program. Weight Watcher is an excellent program to be on while pregnant because it ensures you eat healthy!!! As far as the points, check with your WW leader or check the website.

Again...congratulations!!!

Cindy

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[Guest guest]

I believe pregnant woman should not be doing the program, you might want to check with your leader regarding that... but you are welcome to stay a member of this group.

Question

I found out a couple days ago I am pregnant but still want to be in the weight loss groups I am on and eat healthy and have support... How many points should I be taken in?

[Guest guest]

Hey that will be enough of that!!! NO more off topic things. I want to talk about...................... Oh hell I want to talk about puppies, winks, peanuts, anything in the world! LOL

Roxie

Kate,

I got my "wink" from Incredimail.com! In fact, it was someone from THIS group who introduced me to this website. Uh-oh...another off topic discussion!! LOL

Cindy

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[Guest guest]

They will not let you do WW while pregnant.

Roxie

-----Original Message-----From: Cindy Mandel Sent: Saturday, September 06, 2003 9:29 AMTo: Weight_Watchers_Member_Support_Group Subject: Re: Question

CONGRATULATIONS, !!!

Talk to your doctor about your weight watchers program. Weight Watcher is an excellent program to be on while pregnant because it ensures you eat healthy!!! As far as the points, check with your WW leader or check the website.

Again...congratulations!!!

Cindy

____________________________________________________ IncrediMail - Email has finally evolved - Click Here

[Guest guest]

Congrats on the great news! I'm sure that the Dr will tell you what you can and can not do. WW will not allow you to continue with meetings if you are pregnant.

Roxie

-----Original Message-----From: H3775@... Sent: Saturday, September 06, 2003 9:08 AMTo: Weight_Watchers_Member_Support_Group Subject: Question I found out a couple days ago I am pregnant but still want to be in the weight loss groups I am on and eat healthy and have support... How many points should I be taken in?

[Guest guest]

I would suggest pop corn, one by one...takes some time to eat and low in points!

Joya I have gained weight and isn't due to me being pregnant it is due to over eating... There is times I have a sore back and stomache pain and think it is hunger..LOL.. So eat or if bored I eat or stressed I eat... If am hungry but don't want to eat something with alot of points what does one eat?? How about when bored or stressed what do you do to take your mind off it??

[Guest guest]

Sounds like the mood I describe as "chewy" 8-)

I find that just chewing is marvelously calming, and

I go for a pack (or 1/2 pack) of "Fruities".

If I'm very stressed, though, or upset in any other emotional

way, I find I may actually need to "talk it out" with my sweetie

or a friend, and perhaps have a bit of a cry.

A bit of a cry does wonderful things to heal and release

emotional tension!

-Elissa

question

I have gained weight and isn't due to me being pregnant it is due to over eating... There is times I have a sore back and stomache pain and think it is hunger..LOL.. So eat or if bored I eat or stressed I eat... If am hungry but don't want to eat something with alot of points what does one eat?? How about when bored or stressed what do you do to take your mind off it??