Guest guest Posted October 12, 2007 Report Share Posted October 12, 2007 , Great decision! Your baby will thank you for it when he gets older. You'd be surprised how quickly he will adjust to his helmet. It will not be as traumatic for him as you think, but you're right, it will be for you his parents. You have to come up with a strategy to " shove off " people asking questions. Who needs to know, will know, and the rest... To curious strangers (cashiers in stores, passers-by, etc) who ask why my son is wearing a helmet, I just say " It's his football helmet. He has been wearing it from when the football season started and will wear it until the football season is over " . If they understand that I'm lying - well, so much the worse for them! Some of them just say: " Is he hitting his head a lot and wearing the helmet for protection?, and I say Yes and move on. I have searched high and low, studied and researched the subject so well, that I know every definition, book, study and article ever published. I still keep receiving publications on plagiocephaly that I requested directly from FDA, AAP, State department of Labor and Insurance, etc, etc, etc. It does not help me in the emotional sense, but it definitely helped me deal with doctors and insurance. It's amazing how little medical people know about some things... But what I am trying to say is, if you need my help with paperwork or resources, don't hesitate to ask! I'll be happy to send you all I can, or look together with you for something you need. Good luck, and patience to you! > > > > > > > > > > Hello, I just found this support group and have been perusing > > through > > > > > some of the older posts. It's helpful to have resources out > > there who > > > > > I can turn to - I just don't trust our pediatrician's office > > anymore. > > > > > Like many of you, starting at around two months, I began bringing up > > > > > the fact that my son had some flatness, but the doctors all said > > it was > > > > > very mild and would straighten itself out. Aggressive repositioning > > > > > helped to round out his head a bit, but fast forward to now - he > > will > > > > > be 11 months next week and I see very little self correction since > > > > > month 6 or so. In fact, when he was having his bath last night it > > > > > appears that he now has a ridge on the top of his head (the > > assymetry > > > > > is really only clear with wet hair). He is only on his back when he > > > > > sleeps, but he moves around so much from back to side to the other > > > > > side, etc. that I know he's not putting constant pressure on one > > part > > > > > of his head... He has already been through his major growth > > spurts, so > > > > > > > > > > I suppose I am wondering if anyone out there has had success in > > > > > treating older babies - be it with a cranial remolding helmet or any > > > > > other type of therapy? We do have an appointment with an orthotist > > > > > this week, but I am concerned that my son will not deal well > > with any > > > > > type of helmet - he refuses to keep hats on his head. Any > > experiences > > > > > you can share would be most welcome. > > > > > > > > > > Best, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ** > > > > ** > > > > ** > > > > *><> ><> ><> ><> ><> ><> ><> ><> ><> ><> ><> ><> ><> ><> ><> > > > > * > > > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------ > > > > Shape in your own image. Join our Network Research Panel > > today!< > > http://us.rd./evt=48517/*http://surveylink./gmrs/_panel_i\ nvite.asp?a=7 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 12, 2007 Report Share Posted October 12, 2007 I would definitely band based on what you posted! Most babies adjust just fine. Have fun with the band...decorate it! We put stickers on and changed them every week or two. Sometimes I would just change out the stickers that were getting ruined and other times I'd change the whole " theme. " You will not regret banding! Your child will thank you when he is older. Good luck with your decision. > > > > > > > > > > > > Hello, I just found this support group and have been perusing > > > through > > > > > > some of the older posts. It's helpful to have resources out > > > there who > > > > > > I can turn to - I just don't trust our pediatrician's office > > > anymore. > > > > > > Like many of you, starting at around two months, I began > bringing up > > > > > > the fact that my son had some flatness, but the doctors all said > > > it was > > > > > > very mild and would straighten itself out. Aggressive > repositioning > > > > > > helped to round out his head a bit, but fast forward to now - he > > > will > > > > > > be 11 months next week and I see very little self correction > since > > > > > > month 6 or so. In fact, when he was having his bath last > night it > > > > > > appears that he now has a ridge on the top of his head (the > > > assymetry > > > > > > is really only clear with wet hair). He is only on his back > when he > > > > > > sleeps, but he moves around so much from back to side to the > other > > > > > > side, etc. that I know he's not putting constant pressure on one > > > part > > > > > > of his head... He has already been through his major growth > > > spurts, so > > > > > > > > > > > > I suppose I am wondering if anyone out there has had success in > > > > > > treating older babies - be it with a cranial remolding > helmet or any > > > > > > other type of therapy? We do have an appointment with an > orthotist > > > > > > this week, but I am concerned that my son will not deal well > > > with any > > > > > > type of helmet - he refuses to keep hats on his head. Any > > > experiences > > > > > > you can share would be most welcome. > > > > > > > > > > > > Best, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ** > > > > > ** > > > > > ** > > > > > *><> ><> ><> ><> ><> ><> ><> ><> ><> ><> ><> ><> ><> ><> ><> > > > > > * > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------ > > > > > Shape in your own image. Join our Network Research Panel > > > today!< > > > > http://us.rd./evt=48517/*http://surveylink./gmrs/ya hoo_panel_invite.asp?a=7 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 14, 2007 Report Share Posted October 14, 2007 On the decorating subject - we got a STARband, and it already came decorated with the pattern we had chosen during the scan. It's Dark Sky pattern, and we love it! Other patterns come out stretched, but because of the theme we chose, it's perfect! Everybody loves it! Check it out! http://www.orthomerica.com/pdf/transferguide.pdf > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hello, I just found this support group and have been > perusing > > > > through > > > > > > > some of the older posts. It's helpful to have resources > out > > > > there who > > > > > > > I can turn to - I just don't trust our pediatrician's > office > > > > anymore. > > > > > > > Like many of you, starting at around two months, I began > > bringing up > > > > > > > the fact that my son had some flatness, but the doctors > all said > > > > it was > > > > > > > very mild and would straighten itself out. Aggressive > > repositioning > > > > > > > helped to round out his head a bit, but fast forward to > now - he > > > > will > > > > > > > be 11 months next week and I see very little self > correction > > since > > > > > > > month 6 or so. In fact, when he was having his bath last > > night it > > > > > > > appears that he now has a ridge on the top of his head > (the > > > > assymetry > > > > > > > is really only clear with wet hair). He is only on his > back > > when he > > > > > > > sleeps, but he moves around so much from back to side to > the > > other > > > > > > > side, etc. that I know he's not putting constant > pressure on one > > > > part > > > > > > > of his head... He has already been through his major > growth > > > > spurts, so > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I suppose I am wondering if anyone out there has had > success in > > > > > > > treating older babies - be it with a cranial remolding > > helmet or any > > > > > > > other type of therapy? We do have an appointment with an > > orthotist > > > > > > > this week, but I am concerned that my son will not deal > well > > > > with any > > > > > > > type of helmet - he refuses to keep hats on his head. Any > > > > experiences > > > > > > > you can share would be most welcome. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Best, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ** > > > > > > ** > > > > > > ** > > > > > > *><> ><> ><> ><> ><> ><> ><> ><> ><> ><> ><> ><> ><> ><> > ><> > > > > > > * > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------ > > > > > > Shape in your own image. Join our Network Research > Panel > > > > today!< > > > > > > > http://us.rd./evt=48517/*http://surveylink./gmrs/ya > hoo_panel_invite.asp?a=7 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 15, 2007 Report Share Posted October 15, 2007 Thanks for the decorating tips. We're actually going to be going with Eastern Cranial Affiliates, which is local here in the DC Metro Area and I believe there is a branch on Long Island as well. The orthotist there has a helmet that he has FDA approval for, and we liked the approach he outlined. It's actually a clear blastic helmet, so I'm guessing we can go the sticker route. My husband is all excited to put Red Sox stickers all over it now.... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hello, I just found this support group and have been > > perusing > > > > > through > > > > > > > > some of the older posts. It's helpful to have resources > > out > > > > > there who > > > > > > > > I can turn to - I just don't trust our pediatrician's > > office > > > > > anymore. > > > > > > > > Like many of you, starting at around two months, I began > > > bringing up > > > > > > > > the fact that my son had some flatness, but the doctors > > all said > > > > > it was > > > > > > > > very mild and would straighten itself out. Aggressive > > > repositioning > > > > > > > > helped to round out his head a bit, but fast forward to > > now - he > > > > > will > > > > > > > > be 11 months next week and I see very little self > > correction > > > since > > > > > > > > month 6 or so. In fact, when he was having his bath last > > > night it > > > > > > > > appears that he now has a ridge on the top of his head > > (the > > > > > assymetry > > > > > > > > is really only clear with wet hair). He is only on his > > back > > > when he > > > > > > > > sleeps, but he moves around so much from back to side to > > the > > > other > > > > > > > > side, etc. that I know he's not putting constant > > pressure on one > > > > > part > > > > > > > > of his head... He has already been through his major > > growth > > > > > spurts, so > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I suppose I am wondering if anyone out there has had > > success in > > > > > > > > treating older babies - be it with a cranial remolding > > > helmet or any > > > > > > > > other type of therapy? We do have an appointment with an > > > orthotist > > > > > > > > this week, but I am concerned that my son will not deal > > well > > > > > with any > > > > > > > > type of helmet - he refuses to keep hats on his head. Any > > > > > experiences > > > > > > > > you can share would be most welcome. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Best, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ** > > > > > > > ** > > > > > > > ** > > > > > > > *><> ><> ><> ><> ><> ><> ><> ><> ><> ><> ><> ><> ><> ><> > > ><> > > > > > > > * > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------ > > > > > > > Shape in your own image. Join our Network Research > > Panel > > > > > today!< > > > > > > > > > > http://us.rd./evt=48517/*http://surveylink./gmrs/ya > > hoo_panel_invite.asp?a=7 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 15, 2007 Report Share Posted October 15, 2007 Hi, I just googled the place you mentioned and it seems the guy makes his own helmets (firt I was thinking maybe it was a starlight from othomerica which is clear). I read an article but it isn't clear it the band is active or passive. One difference if it is a shell for the baby to grow into, or if it is adjusted overtime to make more room for growth. Active bands hold the growth in prominent areas with gentle pressure. Generally active bands work more quickly and are better unless the baby is very young. Also I believe all the bands are FDA approved (unless you are seeing a quack maybe). I know DOC, Hanger and Star are approved. When does your son get his helmet? It would be interesting to hear how it goes. Especially since I don't remember other moms on this board using this type of device. I'll hope for amazing results for you little one :-) -christine sydney 21 mo starband grad > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hello, I just found this support group and have been > > > perusing > > > > > > through > > > > > > > > > some of the older posts. It's helpful to have > resources > > > out > > > > > > there who > > > > > > > > > I can turn to - I just don't trust our pediatrician's > > > office > > > > > > anymore. > > > > > > > > > Like many of you, starting at around two months, I > began > > > > bringing up > > > > > > > > > the fact that my son had some flatness, but the > doctors > > > all said > > > > > > it was > > > > > > > > > very mild and would straighten itself out. Aggressive > > > > repositioning > > > > > > > > > helped to round out his head a bit, but fast forward > to > > > now - he > > > > > > will > > > > > > > > > be 11 months next week and I see very little self > > > correction > > > > since > > > > > > > > > month 6 or so. In fact, when he was having his bath > last > > > > night it > > > > > > > > > appears that he now has a ridge on the top of his > head > > > (the > > > > > > assymetry > > > > > > > > > is really only clear with wet hair). He is only on > his > > > back > > > > when he > > > > > > > > > sleeps, but he moves around so much from back to side > to > > > the > > > > other > > > > > > > > > side, etc. that I know he's not putting constant > > > pressure on one > > > > > > part > > > > > > > > > of his head... He has already been through his major > > > growth > > > > > > spurts, so > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I suppose I am wondering if anyone out there has had > > > success in > > > > > > > > > treating older babies - be it with a cranial remolding > > > > helmet or any > > > > > > > > > other type of therapy? We do have an appointment with > an > > > > orthotist > > > > > > > > > this week, but I am concerned that my son will not > deal > > > well > > > > > > with any > > > > > > > > > type of helmet - he refuses to keep hats on his head. > Any > > > > > > experiences > > > > > > > > > you can share would be most welcome. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Best, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ** > > > > > > > > ** > > > > > > > > ** > > > > > > > > *><> ><> ><> ><> ><> ><> ><> ><> ><> ><> ><> ><> ><> > ><> > > > ><> > > > > > > > > * > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------ > > > > > > > > Shape in your own image. Join our Network > Research > > > Panel > > > > > > today!< > > > > > > > > > > > > > > http://us.rd./evt=48517/*http://surveylink./gmrs/ya > > > hoo_panel_invite.asp?a=7 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 15, 2007 Report Share Posted October 15, 2007 Hey! Red Sox rule! We are big fans, too. Wait till we see them champions this year as well! , by the way, is your husband armenian? Ultimately, it doesn't matter what the helmet looks like, as long as it gets the job done! He's not going to wear it forever. I do agree that active is better, but I know you guys must have done a lot of search and research and have your own resources to find the best for your baby. In any case, best of luck! Hope it helps! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hello, I just found this support group and have been > > > perusing > > > > > > through > > > > > > > > > some of the older posts. It's helpful to have > resources > > > out > > > > > > there who > > > > > > > > > I can turn to - I just don't trust our pediatrician's > > > office > > > > > > anymore. > > > > > > > > > Like many of you, starting at around two months, I > began > > > > bringing up > > > > > > > > > the fact that my son had some flatness, but the > doctors > > > all said > > > > > > it was > > > > > > > > > very mild and would straighten itself out. Aggressive > > > > repositioning > > > > > > > > > helped to round out his head a bit, but fast forward > to > > > now - he > > > > > > will > > > > > > > > > be 11 months next week and I see very little self > > > correction > > > > since > > > > > > > > > month 6 or so. In fact, when he was having his bath > last > > > > night it > > > > > > > > > appears that he now has a ridge on the top of his > head > > > (the > > > > > > assymetry > > > > > > > > > is really only clear with wet hair). He is only on > his > > > back > > > > when he > > > > > > > > > sleeps, but he moves around so much from back to side > to > > > the > > > > other > > > > > > > > > side, etc. that I know he's not putting constant > > > pressure on one > > > > > > part > > > > > > > > > of his head... He has already been through his major > > > growth > > > > > > spurts, so > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I suppose I am wondering if anyone out there has had > > > success in > > > > > > > > > treating older babies - be it with a cranial remolding > > > > helmet or any > > > > > > > > > other type of therapy? We do have an appointment with > an > > > > orthotist > > > > > > > > > this week, but I am concerned that my son will not > deal > > > well > > > > > > with any > > > > > > > > > type of helmet - he refuses to keep hats on his head. > Any > > > > > > experiences > > > > > > > > > you can share would be most welcome. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Best, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ** > > > > > > > > ** > > > > > > > > ** > > > > > > > > *><> ><> ><> ><> ><> ><> ><> ><> ><> ><> ><> ><> ><> > ><> > > > ><> > > > > > > > > * > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------ > > > > > > > > Shape in your own image. Join our Network > Research > > > Panel > > > > > > today!< > > > > > > > > > > > > > > http://us.rd./evt=48517/*http://surveylink./gmrs/ya > > > hoo_panel_invite.asp?a=7 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 15, 2007 Report Share Posted October 15, 2007 Hi - Sorry to jump in here, but I was curious about the research you've done. I was trying to look thru some medical journal websites this weekend, but it seems like for the most part w/out subscribing you can just see the abstracts. I'm specifically looking for articles about the benefits of banding mild or moderate babies. My ped says ds's head is " perfectly round " and he has " no assymetry " ...both of which are completely untrue. I have basically identical reports from my PT and from CT. I think I'm just going to switch peds, but I still have this nagging doubt in the back of my head and I'd like to read some more medical research on my own. Do you have anything you can email to me? Ds has torticollis and plagio. CT said they don't rely on measurements, but they did them for ins. he's 5mm off the traditional measurement, 11mm for the ins measurement which is the cranial vault, his midface was 2mm which she said was normal and his skull base was 6mm off. You can see that his ears are basically in two different places and he has forehead bossing and cheek bossing. We're going back to CT in a few weeks (one month after 1st appt) the tech said if he looks the same then and it was her son she'd band. If you ahve any research articles that relate to ds case I'd love to do some reading. Sorry this was so long and to jump in on another post! Thank you, > > > > > > > > > > > > Hello, I just found this support group and have been perusing > > > through > > > > > > some of the older posts. It's helpful to have resources out > > > there who > > > > > > I can turn to - I just don't trust our pediatrician's office > > > anymore. > > > > > > Like many of you, starting at around two months, I began > bringing up > > > > > > the fact that my son had some flatness, but the doctors all said > > > it was > > > > > > very mild and would straighten itself out. Aggressive > repositioning > > > > > > helped to round out his head a bit, but fast forward to now - he > > > will > > > > > > be 11 months next week and I see very little self correction > since > > > > > > month 6 or so. In fact, when he was having his bath last > night it > > > > > > appears that he now has a ridge on the top of his head (the > > > assymetry > > > > > > is really only clear with wet hair). He is only on his back > when he > > > > > > sleeps, but he moves around so much from back to side to the > other > > > > > > side, etc. that I know he's not putting constant pressure on one > > > part > > > > > > of his head... He has already been through his major growth > > > spurts, so > > > > > > > > > > > > I suppose I am wondering if anyone out there has had success in > > > > > > treating older babies - be it with a cranial remolding > helmet or any > > > > > > other type of therapy? We do have an appointment with an > orthotist > > > > > > this week, but I am concerned that my son will not deal well > > > with any > > > > > > type of helmet - he refuses to keep hats on his head. Any > > > experiences > > > > > > you can share would be most welcome. > > > > > > > > > > > > Best, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ** > > > > > ** > > > > > ** > > > > > *><> ><> ><> ><> ><> ><> ><> ><> ><> ><> ><> ><> ><> ><> ><> > > > > > * > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------ > > > > > Shape in your own image. Join our Network Research Panel > > > today!< > > > > http://us.rd./evt=48517/*http://surveylink./gmrs/yah oo_panel_invite.asp?a=7 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 16, 2007 Report Share Posted October 16, 2007 The website for Eastern Cranial Affiliates is www.helmettherapy.com. I think also www.eca.com. They not only work with infants, but they provide prosthetics to a variety of patients. You can check out pictures of the device (it is indeed similar to the Starlight helmet) and read about how it works on the website. As many of you pointed out, we researched it (or should I say I researched it!) pretty heavily and decided this particular device is probably the best option for us. It has quite the following in our area and actually came to me with a personal recommendation from a fellow parent. As for when, that's a great question. ASAP for me, but I'm waiting on a call from my pediatrician - left her a message last week telling her that I did take my son for an eval and that he meets certain insurance criteria and that I would like a prescription for the helmet. If she gives it to me, we can have him in it in as little as two weeks. If she will not provide the prescription, then I need to hunt down a doctor who will. Fingers crossed - I just don't have the energy to hunt this week (recovering from RSV that my son passed to me). I will definitely keep you all posted on the progress and will have to put some pictures up. > > Hi, > I just googled the place you mentioned and it seems the guy makes his > own helmets (firt I was thinking maybe it was a starlight from > othomerica which is clear). I read an article but it isn't clear it > the band is active or passive. One difference if it is a shell for the > baby to grow into, or if it is adjusted overtime to make more room for > growth. Active bands hold the growth in prominent areas with gentle > pressure. Generally active bands work more quickly and are better > unless the baby is very young. Also I believe all the bands are FDA > approved (unless you are seeing a quack maybe). I know DOC, Hanger and > Star are approved. > > When does your son get his helmet? It would be interesting to hear how > it goes. Especially since I don't remember other moms on this board > using this type of device. I'll hope for amazing results for you > little one :-) > -christine > sydney 21 mo starband grad > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 16, 2007 Report Share Posted October 16, 2007 , I replied to your address (instead of posting my reply to you here) but have not heard back - wondering if you got my message! I wasn't quite clear about your question, and wanted to make sure I got you right. You need articles about treating mild to moderate plagio - is that correct? If yes, email me, and I will send you a couple of things that may be helpful. Hate to disappoint you, but experts don't really concentrate on mild cases, although some information I can provide! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hello, I just found this support group and have been > perusing > > > > through > > > > > > > some of the older posts. It's helpful to have resources > out > > > > there who > > > > > > > I can turn to - I just don't trust our pediatrician's > office > > > > anymore. > > > > > > > Like many of you, starting at around two months, I began > > bringing up > > > > > > > the fact that my son had some flatness, but the doctors > all said > > > > it was > > > > > > > very mild and would straighten itself out. Aggressive > > repositioning > > > > > > > helped to round out his head a bit, but fast forward to > now - he > > > > will > > > > > > > be 11 months next week and I see very little self > correction > > since > > > > > > > month 6 or so. In fact, when he was having his bath last > > night it > > > > > > > appears that he now has a ridge on the top of his head > (the > > > > assymetry > > > > > > > is really only clear with wet hair). He is only on his > back > > when he > > > > > > > sleeps, but he moves around so much from back to side to > the > > other > > > > > > > side, etc. that I know he's not putting constant pressure > on one > > > > part > > > > > > > of his head... He has already been through his major > growth > > > > spurts, so > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I suppose I am wondering if anyone out there has had > success in > > > > > > > treating older babies - be it with a cranial remolding > > helmet or any > > > > > > > other type of therapy? We do have an appointment with an > > orthotist > > > > > > > this week, but I am concerned that my son will not deal > well > > > > with any > > > > > > > type of helmet - he refuses to keep hats on his head. Any > > > > experiences > > > > > > > you can share would be most welcome. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Best, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ** > > > > > > ** > > > > > > ** > > > > > > *><> ><> ><> ><> ><> ><> ><> ><> ><> ><> ><> ><> ><> ><> ><> > > > > > > * > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------ > > > > > > Shape in your own image. Join our Network Research > Panel > > > > today!< > > > > > > > http://us.rd./evt=48517/*http://surveylink./gmrs/yah > oo_panel_invite.asp?a=7 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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