Re: Sharing Time

May 12, 2005

Pam --

I'm so sorry! People can be so rude & hurtful (and most of the time

they don't even know it). It's got to be awfully hard on you. Vent

away in here and know that you have cyber friends in this group and

hopefully some of us will get to meet in person and become more than

cyber friends.

I just don't know what to say except I'm so sorry you are having to

go through this. Big hugs to you!!!

Tina

Pre-Op/Richmond

Dr. Baggs

330/296/160 someday!

> I know I have posted before about spending more " me " time, and

about

> the fact that the people I used to go to lunch with exclude me now

> (which I am alright about that now). I have finally accepted the

> coming and going of people (whether they are friends or not) but

> yesterday just took be by surprise.

>

> I was going on a errand for one of my attorneys and on the way I

saw

> one of my coworkers (I also consider us friends) and so I yelled

out to

> her " come walk with me " (we were going one block away and this was

her

> response " Hell no, I aint walking with your skinny ass " . I said

what.

> She said you are looking too cute and skinny for my fat ass to be

> walking with you. You will be getting so much attention. I said

you

> need to quit. I told her I was just telling someone that I have no

> friends now that no one wants to do lunch or anything anymore. She

got

> approved for the surgery around April 7th I think and is waiting

for

> her orientation.

>

> Well, as we proceeded to walk this coffee guy (has a coffee stand)

> waved (I was not looking) and she yelled out to him " hey " and he

said

> no I am talking to her. I thought that was so rude. She said you

> don't even know who she is do you and he said no but she is hella

> fine. After she told him who I was he said oh my gosh. Then he

did

> apologize to my friend. I felt so bad because it was not so long

ago

> when I was receiving that very same treatment. It really boggles

my

> mind because I don't see a skinny me. I know I have curves (a

great

> figure I might add) but I don't see such a difference. I stared

out at

> 249.5 and I weigh 182 as of this morning. I know that is 67.5

pounds

> but its hard for my brain to mesh it all together to see that big

of a

> difference. Maybe in time.

>

> This is certainly a life changing journey and although I am not

having

> issues with food or about food at this point, the emotional side of

> this journey can be overwhelming on most days.

>

> I I can truly say I have no friends and maybe I did not have any

from

> the beginning but it just has become crystle clear post surgery.

>

> Thanks for listening.

>

> Pam Marsh-Feb 8th w/Dr. Park & Dr. Baggs (KP Rich.)(3 months post

op)

> 182-40 pounds post surgery (67.5 total)

> Goal: 130 (52 pounds to go)

May 12, 2005

A lot of us " Posties " seem to be experiencing relationship issues.

I've decided that I'm suffering from remedial adolescence. It't

tough going through that whole phase (new and scary body, new

emotions, finding our identities and our place in the world, etc.)

in middle age!

I don't have any magic answers. I've been blindsided by emotions

lately. I've been bouncing from elation one minute to crying jags

the next. Everything that used to be stuffed down with food and

buried under a mountain of fat is bubbling up to the surface.

As for feeling that you don't have any friends Pat, you have all of

us! Big cyber-hug!

Uncle Timmy -234

> I know I have posted before about spending more " me " time, and

about

> the fact that the people I used to go to lunch with exclude me now

> (which I am alright about that now). I have finally accepted the

> coming and going of people (whether they are friends or not) but

> yesterday just took be by surprise.

>

> I was going on a errand for one of my attorneys and on the way I

saw

> one of my coworkers (I also consider us friends) and so I yelled

out to

> her " come walk with me " (we were going one block away and this was

her

> response " Hell no, I aint walking with your skinny ass " . I said

what.

> She said you are looking too cute and skinny for my fat ass to be

> walking with you. You will be getting so much attention. I said

you

> need to quit. I told her I was just telling someone that I have

no

> friends now that no one wants to do lunch or anything anymore.

She got

> approved for the surgery around April 7th I think and is waiting

for

> her orientation.

>

> Well, as we proceeded to walk this coffee guy (has a coffee stand)

> waved (I was not looking) and she yelled out to him " hey " and he

said

> no I am talking to her. I thought that was so rude. She said you

> don't even know who she is do you and he said no but she is hella

> fine. After she told him who I was he said oh my gosh. Then he

did

> apologize to my friend. I felt so bad because it was not so long

ago

> when I was receiving that very same treatment. It really boggles

my

> mind because I don't see a skinny me. I know I have curves (a

great

> figure I might add) but I don't see such a difference. I stared

out at

> 249.5 and I weigh 182 as of this morning. I know that is 67.5

pounds

> but its hard for my brain to mesh it all together to see that big

of a

> difference. Maybe in time.

>

> This is certainly a life changing journey and although I am not

having

> issues with food or about food at this point, the emotional side

of

> this journey can be overwhelming on most days.

>

> I I can truly say I have no friends and maybe I did not have any

from

> the beginning but it just has become crystle clear post surgery.

>

> Thanks for listening.

>

> Pam Marsh-Feb 8th w/Dr. Park & Dr. Baggs (KP Rich.)(3 months post

op)

> 182-40 pounds post surgery (67.5 total)

> Goal: 130 (52 pounds to go)

May 12, 2005

Thanks Tina. I am adjusting to being alone some what

alright now but it was very hurtful at first.

I am hoping that our attempts to meet in Santa Cruz

will still pan out in September although I have not

heard anything else about it. I just hope that you

won't experience this post surgery.

In some way it is good because you get to learn about

yourself. Other than dealing with this, everything

has been great.

Take care and thanks again.

Pam Marsh

--- Tina ma2two@...> wrote:

> Pam --

>

> I'm so sorry! People can be so rude & hurtful (and

> most of the time

> they don't even know it). It's got to be awfully

> hard on you. Vent

> away in here and know that you have cyber friends in

> this group and

> hopefully some of us will get to meet in person and

> become more than

> cyber friends.

>

> I just don't know what to say except I'm so sorry

> you are having to

> go through this. Big hugs to you!!!

>

> Tina

> Pre-Op/Richmond

> Dr. Baggs

> 330/296/160 someday!

>

> > I know I have posted before about spending more

> " me " time, and

> about

> > the fact that the people I used to go to lunch

> with exclude me now

> > (which I am alright about that now). I have

> finally accepted the

> > coming and going of people (whether they are

> friends or not) but

> > yesterday just took be by surprise.

> >

> > I was going on a errand for one of my attorneys

> and on the way I

> saw

> > one of my coworkers (I also consider us friends)

> and so I yelled

> out to

> > her " come walk with me " (we were going one block

> away and this was

> her

> > response " Hell no, I aint walking with your skinny

> ass " . I said

> what.

> > She said you are looking too cute and skinny for

> my fat ass to be

> > walking with you. You will be getting so much

> attention. I said

> you

> > need to quit. I told her I was just telling

> someone that I have no

> > friends now that no one wants to do lunch or

> anything anymore. She

> got

> > approved for the surgery around April 7th I think

> and is waiting

> for

> > her orientation.

> >

> > Well, as we proceeded to walk this coffee guy (has

> a coffee stand)

> > waved (I was not looking) and she yelled out to

> him " hey " and he

> said

> > no I am talking to her. I thought that was so

> rude. She said you

> > don't even know who she is do you and he said no

> but she is hella

> > fine. After she told him who I was he said oh my

> gosh. Then he

> did

> > apologize to my friend. I felt so bad because it

> was not so long

> ago

> > when I was receiving that very same treatment. It

> really boggles

> my

> > mind because I don't see a skinny me. I know I

> have curves (a

> great

> > figure I might add) but I don't see such a

> difference. I stared

> out at

> > 249.5 and I weigh 182 as of this morning. I know

> that is 67.5

> pounds

> > but its hard for my brain to mesh it all together

> to see that big

> of a

> > difference. Maybe in time.

> >

> > This is certainly a life changing journey and

> although I am not

> having

> > issues with food or about food at this point, the

> emotional side of

> > this journey can be overwhelming on most days.

> >

> > I I can truly say I have no friends and maybe I

> did not have any

> from

> > the beginning but it just has become crystle clear

> post surgery.

> >

> > Thanks for listening.

> >

> > Pam Marsh-Feb 8th w/Dr. Park & Dr. Baggs (KP

> Rich.)(3 months post

> op)

> > 182-40 pounds post surgery (67.5 total)

> > Goal: 130 (52 pounds to go)

>

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May 12, 2005

I am sorry, I know I have you guys and you ALL are

great for me and I thank you. However, I am just

amazed at how things could appear one way and then all

of a sudden you wake up and everything is foreign to

you. I won't waste anymore time or energy on it as I

don't want to get down about it. Life is too short.

I thank you and I am sorry that you are dealing with

stuff to. Does it every end for us...the emotional

issues, relationship issues?

I hope so and if it doesn't, I am praying for

endurance. It doesn't matter the condition I cross

the finish line in as long as I cross it...right :>)

We may not all get here together but we will get

there.

Love you and everyone here and a big hug to say thank

you for your encouragement.

Pam Marsh

--- Uncle Timmy n01un0@...> wrote:

> A lot of us " Posties " seem to be experiencing

> relationship issues.

> I've decided that I'm suffering from remedial

> adolescence. It't

> tough going through that whole phase (new and scary

> body, new

> emotions, finding our identities and our place in

> the world, etc.)

> in middle age!

>

> I don't have any magic answers. I've been

> blindsided by emotions

> lately. I've been bouncing from elation one minute

> to crying jags

> the next. Everything that used to be stuffed down

> with food and

> buried under a mountain of fat is bubbling up to the

> surface.

>

> As for feeling that you don't have any friends Pat,

> you have all of

> us! Big cyber-hug!

>

> Uncle Timmy -234

>

> > I know I have posted before about spending more

> " me " time, and

> about

> > the fact that the people I used to go to lunch

> with exclude me now

> > (which I am alright about that now). I have

> finally accepted the

> > coming and going of people (whether they are

> friends or not) but

> > yesterday just took be by surprise.

> >

> > I was going on a errand for one of my attorneys

> and on the way I

> saw

> > one of my coworkers (I also consider us friends)

> and so I yelled

> out to

> > her " come walk with me " (we were going one block

> away and this was

> her

> > response " Hell no, I aint walking with your skinny

> ass " . I said

> what.

> > She said you are looking too cute and skinny for

> my fat ass to be

> > walking with you. You will be getting so much

> attention. I said

> you

> > need to quit. I told her I was just telling

> someone that I have

> no

> > friends now that no one wants to do lunch or

> anything anymore.

> She got

> > approved for the surgery around April 7th I think

> and is waiting

> for

> > her orientation.

> >

> > Well, as we proceeded to walk this coffee guy (has

> a coffee stand)

> > waved (I was not looking) and she yelled out to

> him " hey " and he

> said

> > no I am talking to her. I thought that was so

> rude. She said you

> > don't even know who she is do you and he said no

> but she is hella

> > fine. After she told him who I was he said oh my

> gosh. Then he

> did

> > apologize to my friend. I felt so bad because it

> was not so long

> ago

> > when I was receiving that very same treatment. It

> really boggles

> my

> > mind because I don't see a skinny me. I know I

> have curves (a

> great

> > figure I might add) but I don't see such a

> difference. I stared

> out at

> > 249.5 and I weigh 182 as of this morning. I know

> that is 67.5

> pounds

> > but its hard for my brain to mesh it all together

> to see that big

> of a

> > difference. Maybe in time.

> >

> > This is certainly a life changing journey and

> although I am not

> having

> > issues with food or about food at this point, the

> emotional side

> of

> > this journey can be overwhelming on most days.

> >

> > I I can truly say I have no friends and maybe I

> did not have any

> from

> > the beginning but it just has become crystle clear

> post surgery.

> >

> > Thanks for listening.

> >

> > Pam Marsh-Feb 8th w/Dr. Park & Dr. Baggs (KP

> Rich.)(3 months post

> op)

> > 182-40 pounds post surgery (67.5 total)

> > Goal: 130 (52 pounds to go)

>

__________________________________________________

May 12, 2005

Dear Uncle Timmy and Pam,

Thank you for sharing. When Randy and I divorced and remarried, I think we went through our second adolescence then (the really icky part!!!!). However, I never grew up! My addiction, I'm sure I have an addictive personality, is not substance based, maybe not even food based. I am addicted, and I am not trying to be cute, it's real, to those dumb stuffed animal machines. I collect hundreds of them, for no real reason than the "hunt" and give them away to whatever kids I see at work (lucky for me I work at a K-8 school, lots of kids to give the animals to!!) and Also to "collections", currently I "collect" little houses...right now I have about a thousand...really! (lighthouses and birdhouses included). Because my parents were substance dependent, I will not ever give my self the chance to use drugs or alcohol or tobacco, not prudish, just paranoid! (my grown kids know about my parents, so they know I will kick their a** if they even think about trying any of that!)I wonder what

the future holds for Randy and I, our baby is 17 right now, so he will soon be moving away to college. The rest of the family is close but we don't see them daily.... reliving our adolescence without the crap we already worked through years ago sounds yummy!!!!!! Maybe this is a great thread for posties and pre-ops to write about.... Knowing that these hormonal surges happen as the weight melts off, the hormones we used to have hugging our fat has no where to go but CRAZY! Do we get promiscuous? Sexy? Daring? YEP, YEP and YEP.... new lovers, tattoos, piercings, vacations we never dreamed of, marathons we never thought we would run, happiness and freedom we never thought we would find. What is good to say YES to spontaneously and what should we take a minute to think about? This could be one of the most important discussions we have ever had. Thanks PAM and UNCLE TIMMY!

Lovingly yours!

Sue Uncle Timmy wrote:

A lot of us "Posties" seem to be experiencing relationship issues. I've decided that I'm suffering from remedial adolescence. It't tough going through that whole phase (new and scary body, new emotions, finding our identities and our place in the world, etc.) in middle age! I don't have any magic answers. I've been blindsided by emotions lately. I've been bouncing from elation one minute to crying jags the next. Everything that used to be stuffed down with food and buried under a mountain of fat is bubbling up to the surface. As for feeling that you don't have any friends Pat, you have all of us! Big cyber-hug!Uncle Timmy -234> I know I

have posted before about spending more "me" time, and about > the fact that the people I used to go to lunch with exclude me now > (which I am alright about that now). I have finally accepted the > coming and going of people (whether they are friends or not) but > yesterday just took be by surprise.> > I was going on a errand for one of my attorneys and on the way I saw > one of my coworkers (I also consider us friends) and so I yelled out to > her "come walk with me" (we were going one block away and this was her > response "Hell no, I aint walking with your skinny ass". I said what. > She said you are looking too cute and skinny for my fat ass to be > walking with you. You will be getting so much attention. I said you > need to quit. I told her I was just telling someone that I have no > friends now that no one wants to do lunch or

anything anymore. She got > approved for the surgery around April 7th I think and is waiting for > her orientation.> > Well, as we proceeded to walk this coffee guy (has a coffee stand) > waved (I was not looking) and she yelled out to him "hey" and he said > no I am talking to her. I thought that was so rude. She said you > don't even know who she is do you and he said no but she is hella > fine. After she told him who I was he said oh my gosh. Then he did > apologize to my friend. I felt so bad because it was not so long ago > when I was receiving that very same treatment. It really boggles my > mind because I don't see a skinny me. I know I have curves (a great > figure I might add) but I don't see such a difference. I stared out at > 249.5 and I weigh 182 as of this morning. I know that is 67.5

pounds > but its hard for my brain to mesh it all together to see that big of a > difference. Maybe in time.> > This is certainly a life changing journey and although I am not having > issues with food or about food at this point, the emotional side of > this journey can be overwhelming on most days. > > I I can truly say I have no friends and maybe I did not have any from > the beginning but it just has become crystle clear post surgery. > > Thanks for listening.> > Pam Marsh-Feb 8th w/Dr. Park & Dr. Baggs (KP Rich.)(3 months post op)> 182-40 pounds post surgery (67.5 total)> Goal: 130 (52 pounds to go)

May 12, 2005

Sue, you area sweetie. The thing about your addiction

though is that you give it back. I think your post

was sweet and I thank you.

I have to get ready to leave for my 12 week post op

apt at KP Richmond. I think all is well but I am

anxious to see what my labs say.

I will post tomorrow as the apt is from 2:00-4:00.

Pam Marsh

--- Randy Mendez mendez6@...> wrote:

> Dear Uncle Timmy and Pam,

> Thank you for sharing. When Randy and I divorced and

> remarried, I think we went through our second

> adolescence then (the really icky part!!!!).

> However, I never grew up! My addiction, I'm sure I

> have an addictive personality, is not substance

> based, maybe not even food based. I am addicted, and

> I am not trying to be cute, it's real, to those dumb

> stuffed animal machines. I collect hundreds of them,

> for no real reason than the " hunt " and give them

> away to whatever kids I see at work (lucky for me I

> work at a K-8 school, lots of kids to give the

> animals to!!) and Also to " collections " , currently I

> " collect " little houses...right now I have about a

> thousand...really! (lighthouses and birdhouses

> included). Because my parents were substance

> dependent, I will not ever give my self the chance

> to use drugs or alcohol or tobacco, not prudish,

> just paranoid! (my grown kids know about my parents,

> so they know I will kick their a** if they even

> think about trying any of that!)I wonder what the

> future holds for Randy and I, our baby is 17 right

> now, so he will soon be moving away to college. The

> rest of the family is close but we don't see them

> daily.... reliving our adolescence without the crap

> we already worked through years ago sounds

> yummy!!!!!! Maybe this is a great thread for posties

> and pre-ops to write about.... Knowing that these

> hormonal surges happen as the weight melts off, the

> hormones we used to have hugging our fat has no

> where to go but CRAZY! Do we get promiscuous? Sexy?

> Daring? YEP, YEP and YEP.... new lovers, tattoos,

> piercings, vacations we never dreamed of, marathons

> we never thought we would run, happiness and freedom

> we never thought we would find. What is good to say

> YES to spontaneously and what should we take a

> minute to think about? This could be one of the most

> important discussions we have ever had. Thanks PAM

> and UNCLE TIMMY!

> Lovingly yours!

> Sue

>

> Uncle Timmy n01un0@...> wrote:

> A lot of us " Posties " seem to be experiencing

> relationship issues.

> I've decided that I'm suffering from remedial

> adolescence. It't

> tough going through that whole phase (new and scary

> body, new

> emotions, finding our identities and our place in

> the world, etc.)

> in middle age!

>

> I don't have any magic answers. I've been

> blindsided by emotions

> lately. I've been bouncing from elation one minute

> to crying jags

> the next. Everything that used to be stuffed down

> with food and

> buried under a mountain of fat is bubbling up to the

> surface.

>

> As for feeling that you don't have any friends Pat,

> you have all of

> us! Big cyber-hug!

>

> Uncle Timmy -234

>

> > I know I have posted before about spending more

> " me " time, and

> about

> > the fact that the people I used to go to lunch

> with exclude me now

> > (which I am alright about that now). I have

> finally accepted the

> > coming and going of people (whether they are

> friends or not) but

> > yesterday just took be by surprise.

> >

> > I was going on a errand for one of my attorneys

> and on the way I

> saw

> > one of my coworkers (I also consider us friends)

> and so I yelled

> out to

> > her " come walk with me " (we were going one block

> away and this was

> her

> > response " Hell no, I aint walking with your skinny

> ass " . I said

> what.

> > She said you are looking too cute and skinny for

> my fat ass to be

> > walking with you. You will be getting so much

> attention. I said

> you

> > need to quit. I told her I was just telling

> someone that I have

> no

> > friends now that no one wants to do lunch or

> anything anymore.

> She got

> > approved for the surgery around April 7th I think

> and is waiting

> for

> > her orientation.

> >

> > Well, as we proceeded to walk this coffee guy (has

> a coffee stand)

> > waved (I was not looking) and she yelled out to

> him " hey " and he

> said

> > no I am talking to her. I thought that was so

> rude. She said you

> > don't even know who she is do you and he said no

> but she is hella

> > fine. After she told him who I was he said oh my

> gosh. Then he

> did

> > apologize to my friend. I felt so bad because it

> was not so long

> ago

> > when I was receiving that very same treatment. It

> really boggles

> my

> > mind because I don't see a skinny me. I know I

> have curves (a

> great

> > figure I might add) but I don't see such a

> difference. I stared

> out at

> > 249.5 and I weigh 182 as of this morning. I know

> that is 67.5

> pounds

> > but its hard for my brain to mesh it all together

> to see that big

> of a

> > difference. Maybe in time.

> >

> > This is certainly a life changing journey and

> although I am not

> having

> > issues with food or about food at this point, the

> emotional side

> of

> > this journey can be overwhelming on most days.

> >

> > I I can truly say I have no friends and maybe I

> did not have any

> from

> > the beginning but it just has become crystle clear

> post surgery.

> >

> > Thanks for listening.

> >

> > Pam Marsh-Feb 8th w/Dr. Park & Dr. Baggs (KP

> Rich.)(3 months post

> op)

> > 182-40 pounds post surgery (67.5 total)

> > Goal: 130 (52 pounds to go)

>

> ---------------------------------

>

May 12, 2005

Pam, I guess I don't understand people a lot, but lots of times people will

be jealous instead of being happy for their friends. I have never been

thin, I have always been the fat girl with the pretty face and hair. Even

with that, I have never felt jealous of my friends, and I have had a lot of

little friends, with my best friend being a little Japanese woman with

curves, a pretty face and pretty black hair that I wish was mine! Oh

sometimes I might think that I wish I was smaller and more petite, but

still I didn't envy my friends what they had. Guess I'm unusual, but I

just don't know why others aren't like that. In this society we seem to

make such superficial judgments on how a person looks or whatever! One day

you'll probably just make different friends, and I hope that day comes soon

for you, loneliness is never fun. Big cyber hugs, LaWanda At 08:04 AM

5/12/05, you wrote:

>I know I have posted before about spending more " me " time, and about

>the fact that the people I used to go to lunch with exclude me now

>(which I am alright about that now). I have finally accepted the

>coming and going of people (whether they are friends or not) but

>yesterday just took be by surprise.

>

>I was going on a errand for one of my attorneys and on the way I saw

>one of my coworkers (I also consider us friends) and so I yelled out to

>her " come walk with me " (we were going one block away and this was her

>response " Hell no, I aint walking with your skinny ass " . I said what.

>She said you are looking too cute and skinny for my fat ass to be

>walking with you. You will be getting so much attention. I said you

>need to quit. I told her I was just telling someone that I have no

>friends now that no one wants to do lunch or anything anymore. She got

>approved for the surgery around April 7th I think and is waiting for

>her orientation.

>

>Well, as we proceeded to walk this coffee guy (has a coffee stand)

>waved (I was not looking) and she yelled out to him " hey " and he said

>no I am talking to her. I thought that was so rude. She said you

>don't even know who she is do you and he said no but she is hella

>fine. After she told him who I was he said oh my gosh. Then he did

>apologize to my friend. I felt so bad because it was not so long ago

>when I was receiving that very same treatment. It really boggles my

>mind because I don't see a skinny me. I know I have curves (a great

>figure I might add) but I don't see such a difference. I stared out at

>249.5 and I weigh 182 as of this morning. I know that is 67.5 pounds

>but its hard for my brain to mesh it all together to see that big of a

>difference. Maybe in time.

>

>This is certainly a life changing journey and although I am not having

>issues with food or about food at this point, the emotional side of

>this journey can be overwhelming on most days.

>

>I I can truly say I have no friends and maybe I did not have any from

>the beginning but it just has become crystle clear post surgery.

>

>Thanks for listening.

>

>Pam Marsh-Feb 8th w/Dr. Park & Dr. Baggs (KP Rich.)(3 months post op)

>182-40 pounds post surgery (67.5 total)

>Goal: 130 (52 pounds to go)

>

May 12, 2005

OMG Uncle Timmy

You have definitely hit what Im going through on the head. Im

experiencing the same exact thing.

Huggles

> > I know I have posted before about spending more " me " time, and

> about

> > the fact that the people I used to go to lunch with exclude me

now

> > (which I am alright about that now). I have finally accepted the

> > coming and going of people (whether they are friends or not) but

> > yesterday just took be by surprise.

> >

> > I was going on a errand for one of my attorneys and on the way I

> saw

> > one of my coworkers (I also consider us friends) and so I yelled

> out to

> > her " come walk with me " (we were going one block away and this

was

> her

> > response " Hell no, I aint walking with your skinny ass " . I said

> what.

> > She said you are looking too cute and skinny for my fat ass to be

> > walking with you. You will be getting so much attention. I said

> you

> > need to quit. I told her I was just telling someone that I have

> no

> > friends now that no one wants to do lunch or anything anymore.

> She got

> > approved for the surgery around April 7th I think and is waiting

> for

> > her orientation.

> >

> > Well, as we proceeded to walk this coffee guy (has a coffee

stand)

> > waved (I was not looking) and she yelled out to him " hey " and he

> said

> > no I am talking to her. I thought that was so rude. She said

you

> > don't even know who she is do you and he said no but she is hella

> > fine. After she told him who I was he said oh my gosh. Then he

> did

> > apologize to my friend. I felt so bad because it was not so long

> ago

> > when I was receiving that very same treatment. It really boggles

> my

> > mind because I don't see a skinny me. I know I have curves (a

> great

> > figure I might add) but I don't see such a difference. I stared

> out at

> > 249.5 and I weigh 182 as of this morning. I know that is 67.5

> pounds

> > but its hard for my brain to mesh it all together to see that big

> of a

> > difference. Maybe in time.

> >

> > This is certainly a life changing journey and although I am not

> having

> > issues with food or about food at this point, the emotional side

> of

> > this journey can be overwhelming on most days.

> >

> > I I can truly say I have no friends and maybe I did not have any

> from

> > the beginning but it just has become crystle clear post surgery.

> >

> > Thanks for listening.

> >

> > Pam Marsh-Feb 8th w/Dr. Park & Dr. Baggs (KP Rich.)(3 months post

> op)

> > 182-40 pounds post surgery (67.5 total)

> > Goal: 130 (52 pounds to go)

May 12, 2005

OMG Uncle Timmy and Pam

You have definitely hit what Im going through on the head. Im

experiencing the same exact thing.

Huggles

> > I know I have posted before about spending more " me " time, and

> about

> > the fact that the people I used to go to lunch with exclude me

now

> > (which I am alright about that now). I have finally accepted the

> > coming and going of people (whether they are friends or not) but

> > yesterday just took be by surprise.

> >

> > I was going on a errand for one of my attorneys and on the way I

> saw

> > one of my coworkers (I also consider us friends) and so I yelled

> out to

> > her " come walk with me " (we were going one block away and this

was

> her

> > response " Hell no, I aint walking with your skinny ass " . I said

> what.

> > She said you are looking too cute and skinny for my fat ass to be

> > walking with you. You will be getting so much attention. I said

> you

> > need to quit. I told her I was just telling someone that I have

> no

> > friends now that no one wants to do lunch or anything anymore.

> She got

> > approved for the surgery around April 7th I think and is waiting

> for

> > her orientation.

> >

> > Well, as we proceeded to walk this coffee guy (has a coffee

stand)

> > waved (I was not looking) and she yelled out to him " hey " and he

> said

> > no I am talking to her. I thought that was so rude. She said

you

> > don't even know who she is do you and he said no but she is hella

> > fine. After she told him who I was he said oh my gosh. Then he

> did

> > apologize to my friend. I felt so bad because it was not so long

> ago

> > when I was receiving that very same treatment. It really boggles

> my

> > mind because I don't see a skinny me. I know I have curves (a

> great

> > figure I might add) but I don't see such a difference. I stared

> out at

> > 249.5 and I weigh 182 as of this morning. I know that is 67.5

> pounds

> > but its hard for my brain to mesh it all together to see that big

> of a

> > difference. Maybe in time.

> >

> > This is certainly a life changing journey and although I am not

> having

> > issues with food or about food at this point, the emotional side

> of

> > this journey can be overwhelming on most days.

> >

> > I I can truly say I have no friends and maybe I did not have any

> from

> > the beginning but it just has become crystle clear post surgery.

> >

> > Thanks for listening.

> >

> > Pam Marsh-Feb 8th w/Dr. Park & Dr. Baggs (KP Rich.)(3 months post

> op)

> > 182-40 pounds post surgery (67.5 total)

> > Goal: 130 (52 pounds to go)

May 12, 2005

OMG Uncle Timmy and Pam

You have definitely hit what Im going through on the head. Im

experiencing the same exact thing.

Huggles

> > I know I have posted before about spending more " me " time, and

> about

> > the fact that the people I used to go to lunch with exclude me

now

> > (which I am alright about that now). I have finally accepted the

> > coming and going of people (whether they are friends or not) but

> > yesterday just took be by surprise.

> >

> > I was going on a errand for one of my attorneys and on the way I

> saw

> > one of my coworkers (I also consider us friends) and so I yelled

> out to

> > her " come walk with me " (we were going one block away and this

was

> her

> > response " Hell no, I aint walking with your skinny ass " . I said

> what.

> > She said you are looking too cute and skinny for my fat ass to be

> > walking with you. You will be getting so much attention. I said

> you

> > need to quit. I told her I was just telling someone that I have

> no

> > friends now that no one wants to do lunch or anything anymore.

> She got

> > approved for the surgery around April 7th I think and is waiting

> for

> > her orientation.

> >

> > Well, as we proceeded to walk this coffee guy (has a coffee

stand)

> > waved (I was not looking) and she yelled out to him " hey " and he

> said

> > no I am talking to her. I thought that was so rude. She said

you

> > don't even know who she is do you and he said no but she is hella

> > fine. After she told him who I was he said oh my gosh. Then he

> did

> > apologize to my friend. I felt so bad because it was not so long

> ago

> > when I was receiving that very same treatment. It really boggles

> my

> > mind because I don't see a skinny me. I know I have curves (a

> great

> > figure I might add) but I don't see such a difference. I stared

> out at

> > 249.5 and I weigh 182 as of this morning. I know that is 67.5

> pounds

> > but its hard for my brain to mesh it all together to see that big

> of a

> > difference. Maybe in time.

> >

> > This is certainly a life changing journey and although I am not

> having

> > issues with food or about food at this point, the emotional side

> of

> > this journey can be overwhelming on most days.

> >

> > I I can truly say I have no friends and maybe I did not have any

> from

> > the beginning but it just has become crystle clear post surgery.

> >

> > Thanks for listening.

> >

> > Pam Marsh-Feb 8th w/Dr. Park & Dr. Baggs (KP Rich.)(3 months post

> op)

> > 182-40 pounds post surgery (67.5 total)

> > Goal: 130 (52 pounds to go)

May 12, 2005

Pam,

Excuse my French and my bluntness, but some people are just going to

turn into total assholes. It's an unfortunate side effect of this

surgery. I lost my best friend from high-school over this surgery,

and that was before I even had it! Watching someone else start to

receive attention is a huge thorn in the paw for some of these

people. I say, screw 'em...they weren't worth having as friends in

the first place. I've replaced my old best friend with plenty of new

true friends that I really enjoy spending time with (including not 1

but 2 " best " friends). I understand that there is some mourning

involved, but trust me, it gets better.

In the meantime, it would be great to meet you for lunch someday

since you're so close by.

pascha =)

-130 lbs.

> I know I have posted before about spending more " me " time, and

about

> the fact that the people I used to go to lunch with exclude me now

> (which I am alright about that now). I have finally accepted the

> coming and going of people (whether they are friends or not) but

> yesterday just took be by surprise.

>

> I was going on a errand for one of my attorneys and on the way I

saw

> one of my coworkers (I also consider us friends) and so I yelled

out to

> her " come walk with me " (we were going one block away and this was

her

> response " Hell no, I aint walking with your skinny ass " . I said

what.

> She said you are looking too cute and skinny for my fat ass to be

> walking with you. You will be getting so much attention. I said

you

> need to quit. I told her I was just telling someone that I have no

> friends now that no one wants to do lunch or anything anymore. She

got

> approved for the surgery around April 7th I think and is waiting

for

> her orientation.

>

> Well, as we proceeded to walk this coffee guy (has a coffee stand)

> waved (I was not looking) and she yelled out to him " hey " and he

said

> no I am talking to her. I thought that was so rude. She said you

> don't even know who she is do you and he said no but she is hella

> fine. After she told him who I was he said oh my gosh. Then he

did

> apologize to my friend. I felt so bad because it was not so long

ago

> when I was receiving that very same treatment. It really boggles

my

> mind because I don't see a skinny me. I know I have curves (a

great

> figure I might add) but I don't see such a difference. I stared

out at

> 249.5 and I weigh 182 as of this morning. I know that is 67.5

pounds

> but its hard for my brain to mesh it all together to see that big

of a

> difference. Maybe in time.

>

> This is certainly a life changing journey and although I am not

having

> issues with food or about food at this point, the emotional side of

> this journey can be overwhelming on most days.

>

> I I can truly say I have no friends and maybe I did not have any

from

> the beginning but it just has become crystle clear post surgery.

>

> Thanks for listening.

>

> Pam Marsh-Feb 8th w/Dr. Park & Dr. Baggs (KP Rich.)(3 months post

op)

> 182-40 pounds post surgery (67.5 total)

> Goal: 130 (52 pounds to go)

May 12, 2005

Pam,

Yes!! I think september is a great month to get together at the

beach here! I will look at the poll and see what date worked for

most people, i do think it was in september!! I can't wait to meet

you all

> > > I know I have posted before about spending more

> > " me " time, and

> > about

> > > the fact that the people I used to go to lunch

> > with exclude me now

> > > (which I am alright about that now). I have

> > finally accepted the

> > > coming and going of people (whether they are

> > friends or not) but

> > > yesterday just took be by surprise.

> > >

> > > I was going on a errand for one of my attorneys

> > and on the way I

> > saw

> > > one of my coworkers (I also consider us friends)

> > and so I yelled

> > out to

> > > her " come walk with me " (we were going one block

> > away and this was

> > her

> > > response " Hell no, I aint walking with your skinny

> > ass " . I said

> > what.

> > > She said you are looking too cute and skinny for

> > my fat ass to be

> > > walking with you. You will be getting so much

> > attention. I said

> > you

> > > need to quit. I told her I was just telling

> > someone that I have no

> > > friends now that no one wants to do lunch or

> > anything anymore. She

> > got

> > > approved for the surgery around April 7th I think

> > and is waiting

> > for

> > > her orientation.

> > >

> > > Well, as we proceeded to walk this coffee guy (has

> > a coffee stand)

> > > waved (I was not looking) and she yelled out to

> > him " hey " and he

> > said

> > > no I am talking to her. I thought that was so

> > rude. She said you

> > > don't even know who she is do you and he said no

> > but she is hella

> > > fine. After she told him who I was he said oh my

> > gosh. Then he

> > did

> > > apologize to my friend. I felt so bad because it

> > was not so long

> > ago

> > > when I was receiving that very same treatment. It

> > really boggles

> > my

> > > mind because I don't see a skinny me. I know I

> > have curves (a

> > great

> > > figure I might add) but I don't see such a

> > difference. I stared

> > out at

> > > 249.5 and I weigh 182 as of this morning. I know

> > that is 67.5

> > pounds

> > > but its hard for my brain to mesh it all together

> > to see that big

> > of a

> > > difference. Maybe in time.

> > >

> > > This is certainly a life changing journey and

> > although I am not

> > having

> > > issues with food or about food at this point, the

> > emotional side of

> > > this journey can be overwhelming on most days.

> > >

> > > I I can truly say I have no friends and maybe I

> > did not have any

> > from

> > > the beginning but it just has become crystle clear

> > post surgery.

> > >

> > > Thanks for listening.

> > >

> > > Pam Marsh-Feb 8th w/Dr. Park & Dr. Baggs (KP

> > Rich.)(3 months post

> > op)

> > > 182-40 pounds post surgery (67.5 total)

> > > Goal: 130 (52 pounds to go)

> >

>

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May 13, 2005

September works for me!!!!

> > > > I know I have posted before about spending more

> > > " me " time, and

> > > about

> > > > the fact that the people I used to go to lunch

> > > with exclude me now

> > > > (which I am alright about that now). I have

> > > finally accepted the

> > > > coming and going of people (whether they are

> > > friends or not) but

> > > > yesterday just took be by surprise.

> > > >

> > > > I was going on a errand for one of my attorneys

> > > and on the way I

> > > saw

> > > > one of my coworkers (I also consider us friends)

> > > and so I yelled

> > > out to

> > > > her " come walk with me " (we were going one block

> > > away and this was

> > > her

> > > > response " Hell no, I aint walking with your skinny

> > > ass " . I said

> > > what.

> > > > She said you are looking too cute and skinny for

> > > my fat ass to be

> > > > walking with you. You will be getting so much

> > > attention. I said

> > > you

> > > > need to quit. I told her I was just telling

> > > someone that I have no

> > > > friends now that no one wants to do lunch or

> > > anything anymore. She

> > > got

> > > > approved for the surgery around April 7th I think

> > > and is waiting

> > > for

> > > > her orientation.

> > > >

> > > > Well, as we proceeded to walk this coffee guy (has

> > > a coffee stand)

> > > > waved (I was not looking) and she yelled out to

> > > him " hey " and he

> > > said

> > > > no I am talking to her. I thought that was so

> > > rude. She said you

> > > > don't even know who she is do you and he said no

> > > but she is hella

> > > > fine. After she told him who I was he said oh my

> > > gosh. Then he

> > > did

> > > > apologize to my friend. I felt so bad because it

> > > was not so long

> > > ago

> > > > when I was receiving that very same treatment. It

> > > really boggles

> > > my

> > > > mind because I don't see a skinny me. I know I

> > > have curves (a

> > > great

> > > > figure I might add) but I don't see such a

> > > difference. I stared

> > > out at

> > > > 249.5 and I weigh 182 as of this morning. I know

> > > that is 67.5

> > > pounds

> > > > but its hard for my brain to mesh it all together

> > > to see that big

> > > of a

> > > > difference. Maybe in time.

> > > >

> > > > This is certainly a life changing journey and

> > > although I am not

> > > having

> > > > issues with food or about food at this point, the

> > > emotional side of

> > > > this journey can be overwhelming on most days.

> > > >

> > > > I I can truly say I have no friends and maybe I

> > > did not have any

> > > from

> > > > the beginning but it just has become crystle clear

> > > post surgery.

> > > >

> > > > Thanks for listening.

> > > >

> > > > Pam Marsh-Feb 8th w/Dr. Park & Dr. Baggs (KP

> > > Rich.)(3 months post

> > > op)

> > > > 182-40 pounds post surgery (67.5 total)

> > > > Goal: 130 (52 pounds to go)

> > >

> >

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May 13, 2005

Pascha, I would love to meet you to. Let me know what

works for you. I walk the lake on Tuesdays and

Thursdays so I would love to meet you on Monday,

Wednesday or Fridays. Just let me know. I am so

excited.

Thanks for your support.

Pam Marsh

--- octopascha octopascha@...> wrote:

> Pam,

>

> Excuse my French and my bluntness, but some people

> are just going to

> turn into total assholes. It's an unfortunate side

> effect of this

> surgery. I lost my best friend from high-school

> over this surgery,

> and that was before I even had it! Watching someone

> else start to

> receive attention is a huge thorn in the paw for

> some of these

> people. I say, screw 'em...they weren't worth

> having as friends in

> the first place. I've replaced my old best friend

> with plenty of new

> true friends that I really enjoy spending time with

> (including not 1

> but 2 " best " friends). I understand that there is

> some mourning

> involved, but trust me, it gets better.

> In the meantime, it would be great to meet you for

> lunch someday

> since you're so close by.

> pascha =)

> -130 lbs.

>

> > I know I have posted before about spending more

> " me " time, and

> about

> > the fact that the people I used to go to lunch

> with exclude me now

> > (which I am alright about that now). I have

> finally accepted the

> > coming and going of people (whether they are

> friends or not) but

> > yesterday just took be by surprise.

> >

> > I was going on a errand for one of my attorneys

> and on the way I

> saw

> > one of my coworkers (I also consider us friends)

> and so I yelled

> out to

> > her " come walk with me " (we were going one block

> away and this was

> her

> > response " Hell no, I aint walking with your skinny

> ass " . I said

> what.

> > She said you are looking too cute and skinny for

> my fat ass to be

> > walking with you. You will be getting so much

> attention. I said

> you

> > need to quit. I told her I was just telling

> someone that I have no

> > friends now that no one wants to do lunch or

> anything anymore. She

> got

> > approved for the surgery around April 7th I think

> and is waiting

> for

> > her orientation.

> >

> > Well, as we proceeded to walk this coffee guy (has

> a coffee stand)

> > waved (I was not looking) and she yelled out to

> him " hey " and he

> said

> > no I am talking to her. I thought that was so

> rude. She said you

> > don't even know who she is do you and he said no

> but she is hella

> > fine. After she told him who I was he said oh my

> gosh. Then he

> did

> > apologize to my friend. I felt so bad because it

> was not so long

> ago

> > when I was receiving that very same treatment. It

> really boggles

> my

> > mind because I don't see a skinny me. I know I

> have curves (a

> great

> > figure I might add) but I don't see such a

> difference. I stared

> out at

> > 249.5 and I weigh 182 as of this morning. I know

> that is 67.5

> pounds

> > but its hard for my brain to mesh it all together

> to see that big

> of a

> > difference. Maybe in time.

> >

> > This is certainly a life changing journey and

> although I am not

> having

> > issues with food or about food at this point, the

> emotional side of

> > this journey can be overwhelming on most days.

> >

> > I I can truly say I have no friends and maybe I

> did not have any

> from

> > the beginning but it just has become crystle clear

> post surgery.

> >

> > Thanks for listening.

> >

> > Pam Marsh-Feb 8th w/Dr. Park & Dr. Baggs (KP

> Rich.)(3 months post

> op)

> > 182-40 pounds post surgery (67.5 total)

> > Goal: 130 (52 pounds to go)

>

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I think what made me really break down in my apt. was

the fact that I never verbally said what was wrong or

that I was hurt about the losses. I only wrote it

here. It sounds so different when you say it. I mean

you hear it and it makes it real. Its easy to deny it

when you write it...but when you say it...out

loud...you are acknowledging it and you become

vulnerable for sure because now the world knows it

(those that heard you say it) and you worry..who will

try and take advantage of this and who will step up to

the plate and really be there to help me get through

this process.

Nonetheless, I needed to add this because I left it

off of my earlier post about my three month apt.

Thanks again. You all are a bunch of pretty darn

special people. Take care.

Pam Marsh

--- Diane Duenas brendadiane64@...>

wrote:

> OMG Uncle Timmy and Pam

>

> You have definitely hit what Im going through on the

> head. Im

> experiencing the same exact thing.

>

> Huggles

>

> > > I know I have posted before about spending more

> " me " time, and

> > about

> > > the fact that the people I used to go to lunch

> with exclude me

> now

> > > (which I am alright about that now). I have

> finally accepted the

> > > coming and going of people (whether they are

> friends or not) but

> > > yesterday just took be by surprise.

> > >

> > > I was going on a errand for one of my attorneys

> and on the way I

> > saw

> > > one of my coworkers (I also consider us friends)

> and so I yelled

> > out to

> > > her " come walk with me " (we were going one block

> away and this

> was

> > her

> > > response " Hell no, I aint walking with your

> skinny ass " . I said

> > what.

> > > She said you are looking too cute and skinny for

> my fat ass to be

> > > walking with you. You will be getting so much

> attention. I said

> > you

> > > need to quit. I told her I was just telling

> someone that I have

> > no

> > > friends now that no one wants to do lunch or

> anything anymore.

> > She got

> > > approved for the surgery around April 7th I

> think and is waiting

> > for

> > > her orientation.

> > >

> > > Well, as we proceeded to walk this coffee guy

> (has a coffee

> stand)

> > > waved (I was not looking) and she yelled out to

> him " hey " and he

> > said

> > > no I am talking to her. I thought that was so

> rude. She said

> you

> > > don't even know who she is do you and he said no

> but she is hella

> > > fine. After she told him who I was he said oh

> my gosh. Then he

> > did

> > > apologize to my friend. I felt so bad because

> it was not so long

> > ago

> > > when I was receiving that very same treatment.

> It really boggles

> > my

> > > mind because I don't see a skinny me. I know I

> have curves (a

> > great

> > > figure I might add) but I don't see such a

> difference. I stared

> > out at

> > > 249.5 and I weigh 182 as of this morning. I

> know that is 67.5

> > pounds

> > > but its hard for my brain to mesh it all

> together to see that big

> > of a

> > > difference. Maybe in time.

> > >

> > > This is certainly a life changing journey and

> although I am not

> > having

> > > issues with food or about food at this point,

> the emotional side

> > of

> > > this journey can be overwhelming on most days.

> > >

> > > I I can truly say I have no friends and maybe I

> did not have any

> > from

> > > the beginning but it just has become crystle

> clear post surgery.

> > >

> > > Thanks for listening.

> > >

> > > Pam Marsh-Feb 8th w/Dr. Park & Dr. Baggs (KP

> Rich.)(3 months post

> > op)

> > > 182-40 pounds post surgery (67.5 total)

> > > Goal: 130 (52 pounds to go)

>

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May 13, 2005

LaWanda, I never have been jealous my friends either.

I always said that " what God has for me, its for me

and what He has given to others, its for them and not

me " . I have always felt like if you can't be happy

for your friends and stany with and by them, then who

is going to. I have just learned in life not to keep

a lot of friends. Maybe one or two and that is it. I

did this because of things that happened as a child.

It seemed my friends (so called friends) always did

something to hurt me. So the fear still thrives and

controlls at best. I don't have family out here. I

ma originally from North Carolina and my husband is

from Jamaica (not Jamaica New York). We met in the

Navy.

I am not sure why people do the things they do but I

know in my heart that its going to be okay. I am sure

I drive my poor husband crazy but he is the best

because he knows and understands and he definitely

keeps me thinking about positive stuff just like all

you. This is just a morning process that I have to go

through.

Thanks LaWanda for your support.

--- LaWanda Ezell konfuzed@...> wrote:

> Pam, I guess I don't understand people a lot, but

> lots of times people will

> be jealous instead of being happy for their friends.

> I have never been

> thin, I have always been the fat girl with the

> pretty face and hair. Even

> with that, I have never felt jealous of my friends,

> and I have had a lot of

> little friends, with my best friend being a little

> Japanese woman with

> curves, a pretty face and pretty black hair that I

> wish was mine! Oh

> sometimes I might think that I wish I was smaller

> and more petite, but

> still I didn't envy my friends what they had. Guess

> I'm unusual, but I

> just don't know why others aren't like that. In

> this society we seem to

> make such superficial judgments on how a person

> looks or whatever! One day

> you'll probably just make different friends, and I

> hope that day comes soon

> for you, loneliness is never fun. Big cyber hugs,

> LaWanda At 08:04 AM

> 5/12/05, you wrote:

> >I know I have posted before about spending more

> " me " time, and about

> >the fact that the people I used to go to lunch with

> exclude me now

> >(which I am alright about that now). I have

> finally accepted the

> >coming and going of people (whether they are

> friends or not) but

> >yesterday just took be by surprise.

> >

> >I was going on a errand for one of my attorneys and

> on the way I saw

> >one of my coworkers (I also consider us friends)

> and so I yelled out to

> >her " come walk with me " (we were going one block

> away and this was her

> >response " Hell no, I aint walking with your skinny

> ass " . I said what.

> >She said you are looking too cute and skinny for my

> fat ass to be

> >walking with you. You will be getting so much

> attention. I said you

> >need to quit. I told her I was just telling

> someone that I have no

> >friends now that no one wants to do lunch or

> anything anymore. She got

> >approved for the surgery around April 7th I think

> and is waiting for

> >her orientation.

> >

> >Well, as we proceeded to walk this coffee guy (has

> a coffee stand)

> >waved (I was not looking) and she yelled out to him

> " hey " and he said

> >no I am talking to her. I thought that was so

> rude. She said you

> >don't even know who she is do you and he said no

> but she is hella

> >fine. After she told him who I was he said oh my

> gosh. Then he did

> >apologize to my friend. I felt so bad because it

> was not so long ago

> >when I was receiving that very same treatment. It

> really boggles my

> >mind because I don't see a skinny me. I know I

> have curves (a great

> >figure I might add) but I don't see such a

> difference. I stared out at

> >249.5 and I weigh 182 as of this morning. I know

> that is 67.5 pounds

> >but its hard for my brain to mesh it all together

> to see that big of a

> >difference. Maybe in time.

> >

> >This is certainly a life changing journey and

> although I am not having

> >issues with food or about food at this point, the

> emotional side of

> >this journey can be overwhelming on most days.

> >

> >I I can truly say I have no friends and maybe I did

> not have any from

> >the beginning but it just has become crystle clear

> post surgery.

> >

> >Thanks for listening.

> >

> >Pam Marsh-Feb 8th w/Dr. Park & Dr. Baggs (KP

> Rich.)(3 months post op)

> >182-40 pounds post surgery (67.5 total)

> >Goal: 130 (52 pounds to go)

> >

May 13, 2005

Pam..

I find it hard to believe that anyone would turn their back on you...your spirit remains the same, regardless of the shape of the shell in which it dwells. Your body is just starting to reflect more accurately the "you" that is inside. I'm so sorry you are experiencing this kind of treatment. You certainly don't deserve it, and it really pains me to hear that you are being mistreated.

Well, the other one who teased you about not wanting to be seen with you will soon experience the same thing. That will wake her up and will create a bond between the two of you. Nothing like going on a life-altering journey together to create a bond. I mean...look at how important we are all to one another.

I must say that I will be quite shocked if I start being treated differently by my true friends once I am thinner. After all, I'm such a loud mouthed attention grabber now that they are used to me stealing their thunder, anyway. LOL. But, what I am saying is that I imagine it would be shocking and very hurtful.

What I would suggest? If they mean a lot to you...give them time to adjust. You eating your tiny portions may make them feel embarrassed about their own eating. Or, maybe...is it possible that they don't want to tempt you while you are on this journey, so they are trying to "protect" you from being exposed to all of the crap they shove down their gullets at lunch? That's giving them the greatest benefit of the doubt, of course...but maybe that's the case?

You have your family. And you have me, Pam. I'd be happy to go with you to lunch from time to time. (As you know...I hardly ever get to leave my desk or get away from meetings to actually take a real lunch...but when I do...hey. Count me in.) Also, I'd like to walk the lake with you, too. I'll bring some shoes and try to keep a change of clothes at work, and maybe we can start doing that. I have Pilates on Monday and Wednesday during the day....but I can handle a couple more days of walking. I'd love to share that time with you, anyway...so it would be killing two birds with one stone.

Sorry I have been silent for a while. I was up in the Northwest on a business trip, and came back to a massive to the ceiling pile of work upon my return. Woe is me.

Anyway...we all want people who genuinely care about us in our corner. People that will be with us, and there fr us, no matter what. So, although it is difficult to go through...in a way, your friendships are being purified by fire. When the fire has finished burning, the chaff will blow away. You don't need chaff in your life. Those same people who reject you now are the ones who, under the disguise of friendship, were always looking out for number one. That's obvious, or they would be more supportive now. You want people in your life that love you, ,treat you well, support you...and want nothing but good things for you. And you know what? you deserve that. Don't settle for less.

I love you Sweetie petey....don't lose heart. And by the way...I'm happy to be seen with you and Pascha...even though you are both ultra-babelicious chippies!!!

RobynnPamela A Marsh wrote:

Pascha, I would love to meet you to. Let me know whatworks for you. I walk the lake on Tuesdays andThursdays so I would love to meet you on Monday,Wednesday or Fridays. Just let me know. I am soexcited.Thanks for your support.Pam Marsh--- octopascha wrote:> Pam,> > Excuse my French and my bluntness, but some people> are just going to > turn into total assholes. It's an unfortunate side> effect of this > surgery. I lost my best friend from high-school> over this surgery, > and that was before I even had it! Watching someone> else start to > receive attention is a huge thorn in the paw for> some of these > people. I say, screw 'em...they weren't worth> having as friends in

> the first place. I've replaced my old best friend> with plenty of new > true friends that I really enjoy spending time with> (including not 1 > but 2 "best" friends). I understand that there is> some mourning > involved, but trust me, it gets better.> In the meantime, it would be great to meet you for> lunch someday > since you're so close by. > pascha =)> -130 lbs. > > > > I know I have posted before about spending more> "me" time, and > about > > the fact that the people I used to go to lunch> with exclude me now > > (which I am alright about that now). I have> finally accepted the > > coming and going of people (whether they are> friends or

not) but > > yesterday just took be by surprise.> > > > I was going on a errand for one of my attorneys> and on the way I > saw > > one of my coworkers (I also consider us friends)> and so I yelled > out to > > her "come walk with me" (we were going one block> away and this was > her > > response "Hell no, I aint walking with your skinny> ass". I said > what. > > She said you are looking too cute and skinny for> my fat ass to be > > walking with you. You will be getting so much> attention. I said > you > > need to quit. I told her I was just telling> someone that I have no > > friends now that no one wants to do lunch or> anything anymore. She > got > > approved for the surgery around April 7th I think> and is waiting > for >

> her orientation.> > > > Well, as we proceeded to walk this coffee guy (has> a coffee stand) > > waved (I was not looking) and she yelled out to> him "hey" and he > said > > no I am talking to her. I thought that was so> rude. She said you > > don't even know who she is do you and he said no> but she is hella > > fine. After she told him who I was he said oh my> gosh. Then he > did > > apologize to my friend. I felt so bad because it> was not so long > ago > > when I was receiving that very same treatment. It> really boggles > my > > mind because I don't see a skinny me. I know I> have curves (a > great > > figure I might add) but I don't see such a> difference. I stared > out at > > 249.5 and I weigh 182 as of this

morning. I know> that is 67.5 > pounds > > but its hard for my brain to mesh it all together> to see that big > of a > > difference. Maybe in time.> > > > This is certainly a life changing journey and> although I am not > having > > issues with food or about food at this point, the> emotional side of > > this journey can be overwhelming on most days. > > > > I I can truly say I have no friends and maybe I> did not have any > from > > the beginning but it just has become crystle clear> post surgery. > > > > Thanks for listening.> > > > Pam Marsh-Feb 8th w/Dr. Park & Dr. Baggs (KP> Rich.)(3 months post > op)> > 182-40 pounds post surgery (67.5 total)> > Goal: 130 (52 pounds to go)> > >

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Me, too. Diane Duenas wrote:

September works for me!!!!> > > > I know I have posted before about spending more> > > "me" time, and > > > about > > > > the fact that the people I used to go to lunch> > > with exclude me now > > > > (which I am alright about that now). I have> > > finally accepted the > > > > coming and going of people (whether they are> > > friends or not) but > > > > yesterday just took be by surprise.> > > > > > > > I was going on a errand for

one of my attorneys> > > and on the way I > > > saw > > > > one of my coworkers (I also consider us friends)> > > and so I yelled > > > out to > > > > her "come walk with me" (we were going one block> > > away and this was > > > her > > > > response "Hell no, I aint walking with your skinny> > > ass". I said > > > what. > > > > She said you are looking too cute and skinny for> > > my fat ass to be > > > > walking with you. You will be getting so much> > > attention. I said > > > you > > > > need to quit. I told her I was just telling> > > someone that I have no > > > > friends now that no one wants to do lunch or> > > anything anymore. She > > > got > >

> > approved for the surgery around April 7th I think> > > and is waiting > > > for > > > > her orientation.> > > > > > > > Well, as we proceeded to walk this coffee guy (has> > > a coffee stand) > > > > waved (I was not looking) and she yelled out to> > > him "hey" and he > > > said > > > > no I am talking to her. I thought that was so> > > rude. She said you > > > > don't even know who she is do you and he said no> > > but she is hella > > > > fine. After she told him who I was he said oh my> > > gosh. Then he > > > did > > > > apologize to my friend. I felt so bad because it> > > was not so long > > > ago > > > > when I was receiving that very same

treatment. It> > > really boggles > > > my > > > > mind because I don't see a skinny me. I know I> > > have curves (a > > > great > > > > figure I might add) but I don't see such a> > > difference. I stared > > > out at > > > > 249.5 and I weigh 182 as of this morning. I know> > > that is 67.5 > > > pounds > > > > but its hard for my brain to mesh it all together> > > to see that big > > > of a > > > > difference. Maybe in time.> > > > > > > > This is certainly a life changing journey and> > > although I am not > > > having > > > > issues with food or about food at this point, the> > > emotional side of > > > > this journey can be overwhelming on

most days. > > > > > > > > I I can truly say I have no friends and maybe I> > > did not have any > > > from > > > > the beginning but it just has become crystle clear> > > post surgery. > > > > > > > > Thanks for listening.> > > > > > > > Pam Marsh-Feb 8th w/Dr. Park & Dr. Baggs (KP> > > Rich.)(3 months post > > > op)> > > > 182-40 pounds post surgery (67.5 total)> > > > Goal: 130 (52 pounds to go)> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Yahoo! Mail> > Stay connected, organized, and protected. Take the tour:> > http://tour.mail.yahoo.com/mailtour.html

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I don't see it Robynn, maybe some day. I can't wait

until you have your surgery to see your response...but

then again, you are not going to have a problem

because you are one of the most confident people I

know and that is a great thing. Again, thank you and

I forgot to say to you that I am sorry about the pile

and I hope you can see the light at the end of the

tunnel before long.

Are you close with your 10%. I hope so and I wish you

well with it.

Pam Marsh

--- Robynn VanPatten robynnsf@...> wrote:

> Exsqueeeeeeeze me??? Have you LOOKED in a mirror

> yet, or what? You are a super ultra-babelicous

> chippy!!!

>

> Kisses,

> Robynn

>

> Pamela A Marsh sweetnlow20012001@...> wrote:

> Thank you Robynn. I would love to walk the lake

> with

> you and Pascha and I would do lunch with you as

> well.

>

> I don't know a thing about being ultra-babelicious

> > chippies!!! but someday I hope to be there.

>

> Big hug to you.

>

> Pam Marsh

>

> --- Robynn VanPatten robynnsf@...> wrote:

>

> > Pam..

> >

> > I find it hard to believe that anyone would turn

> > their back on you...your spirit remains the same,

> > regardless of the shape of the shell in which it

> > dwells. Your body is just starting to reflect

> more

> > accurately the " you " that is inside. I'm so sorry

> > you are experiencing this kind of treatment. You

> > certainly don't deserve it, and it really pains me

> > to hear that you are being mistreated.

> >

> > Well, the other one who teased you about not

> wanting

> > to be seen with you will soon experience the same

> > thing. That will wake her up and will create a

> bond

> > between the two of you. Nothing like going on a

> > life-altering journey together to create a bond.

> I

> > mean...look at how important we are all to one

> > another.

> >

> > I must say that I will be quite shocked if I start

> > being treated differently by my true friends once

> I

> > am thinner. After all, I'm such a loud mouthed

> > attention grabber now that they are used to me

> > stealing their thunder, anyway. LOL. But, what I

> > am saying is that I imagine it would be shocking

> and

> > very hurtful.

> >

> > What I would suggest? If they mean a lot to

> > you...give them time to adjust. You eating your

> > tiny portions may make them feel embarrassed about

> > their own eating. Or, maybe...is it possible that

> > they don't want to tempt you while you are on this

> > journey, so they are trying to " protect " you from

> > being exposed to all of the crap they shove down

> > their gullets at lunch? That's giving them the

> > greatest benefit of the doubt, of course...but

> maybe

> > that's the case?

> >

> > You have your family. And you have me, Pam. I'd

> be

> > happy to go with you to lunch from time to time.

> > (As you know...I hardly ever get to leave my desk

> or

> > get away from meetings to actually take a real

> > lunch...but when I do...hey. Count me in.) Also,

> > I'd like to walk the lake with you, too. I'll

> bring

> > some shoes and try to keep a change of clothes at

> > work, and maybe we can start doing that. I have

> > Pilates on Monday and Wednesday during the

> > day....but I can handle a couple more days of

> > walking. I'd love to share that time with you,

> > anyway...so it would be killing two birds with one

> > stone.

> >

> > Sorry I have been silent for a while. I was up in

> > the Northwest on a business trip, and came back to

> a

> > massive to the ceiling pile of work upon my

> return.

> > Woe is me.

> >

> > Anyway...we all want people who genuinely care

> about

> > us in our corner. People that will be with us,

> and

> > there fr us, no matter what. So, although it is

> > difficult to go through...in a way, your

> friendships

> > are being purified by fire. When the fire has

> > finished burning, the chaff will blow away. You

> > don't need chaff in your life. Those same people

> > who reject you now are the ones who, under the

> > disguise of friendship, were always looking out

> for

> > number one. That's obvious, or they would be more

> > supportive now. You want people in your life that

> > love you, ,treat you well, support you...and want

> > nothing but good things for you. And you know

> what?

> > you deserve that. Don't settle for less.

> >

> > I love you Sweetie petey....don't lose heart. And

> > by the way...I'm happy to be seen with you and

> > Pascha...even though you are both

> ultra-babelicious

> > chippies!!!

> >

> > Robynn

> >

> > Pamela A Marsh sweetnlow20012001@...>

> wrote:

> > Pascha, I would love to meet you to. Let me know

> > what

> > works for you. I walk the lake on Tuesdays and

> > Thursdays so I would love to meet you on Monday,

> > Wednesday or Fridays. Just let me know. I am so

> > excited.

> >

> > Thanks for your support.

> >

> > Pam Marsh

> > --- octopascha octopascha@...> wrote:

> > > Pam,

> > >

> > > Excuse my French and my bluntness, but some

> people

> > > are just going to

> > > turn into total assholes. It's an unfortunate

> > side

> > > effect of this

> > > surgery. I lost my best friend from high-school

> > > over this surgery,

> > > and that was before I even had it! Watching

> > someone

> > > else start to

> > > receive attention is a huge thorn in the paw for

> > > some of these

> > > people. I say, screw 'em...they weren't worth

> > > having as friends in

> > > the first place. I've replaced my old best

> friend

> > > with plenty of new

> > > true friends that I really enjoy spending time

> > with

> > > (including not 1

> > > but 2 " best " friends). I understand that there

> is

> > > some mourning

> > > involved, but trust me, it gets better.

> > > In the meantime, it would be great to meet you

> for

> > > lunch someday

> > > since you're so close by.

> > > pascha =)

> > > -130 lbs.

> > >

> > > > I know I have posted before about spending

> more

> > > " me " time, and

> > > about

> > > > the fact that the people I used to go to lunch

> > > with exclude me now

> > > > (which I am alright about that now). I have

> > > finally accepted the

> > > > coming and going of people (whether they are

> > > friends or not) but

> > > > yesterday just took be by surprise.

> > > >

> > > > I was going on a errand for one of my

> attorneys

> > > and on the way I

> > > saw

> > > > one of my coworkers (I also consider us

> friends)

> > > and so I yelled

> > > out to

> > > > her " come walk with me " (we were going one

> block

> > > away and this was

> > > her

> > > > response " Hell no, I aint walking with your

> > skinny

> > > ass " . I said

> > > what.

> > > > She said you are looking too cute and skinny

> for

> > > my fat ass to be

> > > > walking with you. You will be getting so much

>

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May 13, 2005

I am struggling with the two most stubborn pounds on the face of the planet. I really need to get there!! So, I am trying to up the exercise a bit.

Besides, I need to get myself in decent shape so that I can meet my Internet Frenchman. He sent me an MP3 of his voice, reading me this incredibly seductive thing that he had written to me. Grrrrrrrrr. I was listening to it on my headset (off of my computer) when my client walked in. She actually said, and no I am not kidding, "Robynn...oh my God!! Do you have a fever, you look like you are going to pass out?!?! LEt me get you some water!!!!" If she only knew. : )

And so, I get back from my trip...and what is in my mail box? A package from , with a beautiful book of Beaudelaire's poetry (Mal des Fleurs). It was printed in 1940, and it is tiny, and fragile...the pages are made of silk. He wrote this wonderful note to me...very romantic.

OK. Can we say PAY DIRT? At this point, I wouldn't care if his pictures weren't real, and he looked like a three-armed sloth.. Yowza, yowza, yowza.

Oh, and then he also recorded his voice saying the words to the Jimi Hendrix/red Hot Chili Peppers song, "Fire". Ladies...you haven't lived until you hear a heavy French accent growling in your ear

"i only have a burning desire ...let me stand next to your fire...yeah baby, let me stand next to your fire ..."

OK...on that note...time for the cold shower.....

So, yeah...um...kinda been fun. And so now...I'd like to meet him...go to Paris...but I'm aiming to go in the Fall (my favorite time of year there)...and I'd like to be SIZZLING when I meet him...so that he can fully appreciate standing next to my fire. ; )

RobynnPamela A Marsh wrote:

I don't see it Robynn, maybe some day. I can't waituntil you have your surgery to see your response...butthen again, you are not going to have a problembecause you are one of the most confident people Iknow and that is a great thing. Again, thank you andI forgot to say to you that I am sorry about the pileand I hope you can see the light at the end of thetunnel before long.Are you close with your 10%. I hope so and I wish youwell with it.Pam Marsh--- Robynn VanPatten wrote:> Exsqueeeeeeeze me??? Have you LOOKED in a mirror> yet, or what? You are a super ultra-babelicous> chippy!!!> > Kisses,> Robynn> > Pamela A Marsh wrote:> Thank you Robynn. I would love

to walk the lake> with> you and Pascha and I would do lunch with you as> well. > > I don't know a thing about being ultra-babelicious> > chippies!!! but someday I hope to be there.> > Big hug to you.> > Pam Marsh> > --- Robynn VanPatten wrote:> > > Pam..> > > > I find it hard to believe that anyone would turn> > their back on you...your spirit remains the same,> > regardless of the shape of the shell in which it> > dwells. Your body is just starting to reflect> more> > accurately the "you" that is inside. I'm so sorry> > you are experiencing this kind of treatment. You> > certainly don't deserve it, and it really pains me> > to hear that you are being mistreated.> > > > Well, the other

one who teased you about not> wanting> > to be seen with you will soon experience the same> > thing. That will wake her up and will create a> bond> > between the two of you. Nothing like going on a> > life-altering journey together to create a bond. > I> > mean...look at how important we are all to one> > another.> > > > I must say that I will be quite shocked if I start> > being treated differently by my true friends once> I> > am thinner. After all, I'm such a loud mouthed> > attention grabber now that they are used to me> > stealing their thunder, anyway. LOL. But, what I> > am saying is that I imagine it would be shocking> and> > very hurtful.> > > > What I would suggest? If they mean a lot to> > you...give them time to

adjust. You eating your> > tiny portions may make them feel embarrassed about> > their own eating. Or, maybe...is it possible that> > they don't want to tempt you while you are on this> > journey, so they are trying to "protect" you from> > being exposed to all of the crap they shove down> > their gullets at lunch? That's giving them the> > greatest benefit of the doubt, of course...but> maybe> > that's the case?> > > > You have your family. And you have me, Pam. I'd> be> > happy to go with you to lunch from time to time. > > (As you know...I hardly ever get to leave my desk> or> > get away from meetings to actually take a real> > lunch...but when I do...hey. Count me in.) Also,> > I'd like to walk the lake with you, too. I'll> bring> > some

shoes and try to keep a change of clothes at> > work, and maybe we can start doing that. I have> > Pilates on Monday and Wednesday during the> > day....but I can handle a couple more days of> > walking. I'd love to share that time with you,> > anyway...so it would be killing two birds with one> > stone.> > > > Sorry I have been silent for a while. I was up in> > the Northwest on a business trip, and came back to> a> > massive to the ceiling pile of work upon my> return. > > Woe is me.> > > > Anyway...we all want people who genuinely care> about> > us in our corner. People that will be with us,> and> > there fr us, no matter what. So, although it is> > difficult to go through...in a way, your> friendships> > are being purified by fire.

When the fire has> > finished burning, the chaff will blow away. You> > don't need chaff in your life. Those same people> > who reject you now are the ones who, under the> > disguise of friendship, were always looking out> for> > number one. That's obvious, or they would be more> > supportive now. You want people in your life that> > love you, ,treat you well, support you...and want> > nothing but good things for you. And you know> what?> > you deserve that. Don't settle for less.> > > > I love you Sweetie petey....don't lose heart. And> > by the way...I'm happy to be seen with you and> > Pascha...even though you are both> ultra-babelicious> > chippies!!!> > > > Robynn> > > > Pamela A Marsh

> wrote:> > Pascha, I would love to meet you to. Let me know> > what> > works for you. I walk the lake on Tuesdays and> > Thursdays so I would love to meet you on Monday,> > Wednesday or Fridays. Just let me know. I am so> > excited.> > > > Thanks for your support.> > > > Pam Marsh> > --- octopascha wrote:> > > Pam,> > > > > > Excuse my French and my bluntness, but some> people> > > are just going to > > > turn into total assholes. It's an unfortunate> > side> > > effect of this > > > surgery. I lost my best friend from high-school> > > over this surgery, > > > and that was before I even had it! Watching> > someone>

> > else start to > > > receive attention is a huge thorn in the paw for> > > some of these > > > people. I say, screw 'em...they weren't worth> > > having as friends in > > > the first place. I've replaced my old best> friend> > > with plenty of new > > > true friends that I really enjoy spending time> > with> > > (including not 1 > > > but 2 "best" friends). I understand that there> is> > > some mourning > > > involved, but trust me, it gets better.> > > In the meantime, it would be great to meet you> for> > > lunch someday > > > since you're so close by. > > > pascha =)> > > -130 lbs. > > > > > > > > > > I know I have posted before about spending> more> > > "me" time, and > > > about > > > > the fact that the people I used to go to lunch> > > with exclude me now > > > > (which I am alright about that now). I have> > > finally accepted the > > > > coming and going of people (whether they are> > > friends or not) but > > > > yesterday just took be by surprise.> > > > > > > > I was going on a errand for one of my> attorneys> > > and on the way I > > > saw > > > > one of my coworkers (I also consider us> friends)> > > and so I yelled > > > out to > > > > her "come walk with me" (we were going one> block>

> > away and this was > > > her > > > > response "Hell no, I aint walking with your> > skinny> > > ass". I said > > > what. > > > > She said you are looking too cute and skinny> for> > > my fat ass to be > > > > walking with you. You will be getting so much> === message truncated === __________________________________ Yahoo! Mail Mobile Take Yahoo! Mail with you! Check email on your mobile phone. http://mobile.yahoo.com/learn/mail

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Okay...so it is two now. You will do it. I can't

wait to get your post saying that you have a surgery

date. It will happen and wether you had the surgery

or not by the time you meet he will be pleased

with you. You see, when people meet you, know one, at

least I hope not, are going to be so focused on what

you look like but rather...what you are saying. You

have a presence that commands attention and not a lot

of people possess that. Beautiful, sexy, sexy..oh and

did I say sexy...wise, patient and kind soul. You are

not the person I thought that you were and I am glad

that this surgery has brought us together. Can't wait

to hear more from you.

Pam Marsh

--- Robynn VanPatten robynnsf@...> wrote:

> I am struggling with the two most stubborn pounds on

> the face of the planet. I really need to get

> there!! So, I am trying to up the exercise a bit.

>

> Besides, I need to get myself in decent shape so

> that I can meet my Internet Frenchman. He sent me

> an MP3 of his voice, reading me this incredibly

> seductive thing that he had written to me.

> Grrrrrrrrr. I was listening to it on my headset

> (off of my computer) when my client walked in. She

> actually said, and no I am not kidding, " Robynn...oh

> my God!! Do you have a fever, you look like you are

> going to pass out?!?! LEt me get you some

> water!!!! " If she only knew. : )

>

> And so, I get back from my trip...and what is in my

> mail box? A package from , with a beautiful

> book of Beaudelaire's poetry (Mal des Fleurs). It

> was printed in 1940, and it is tiny, and

> fragile...the pages are made of silk. He wrote this

> wonderful note to me...very romantic.

>

> OK. Can we say PAY DIRT? At this point, I wouldn't

> care if his pictures weren't real, and he looked

> like a three-armed sloth.. Yowza, yowza, yowza.

> Oh, and then he also recorded his voice saying the

> words to the Jimi Hendrix/red Hot Chili Peppers

> song, " Fire " . Ladies...you haven't lived until you

> hear a heavy French accent growling in your ear

>

> " i only have a burning desire ...let me stand next

> to your fire...yeah baby, let me stand next to your

> fire ... "

>

> OK...on that note...time for the cold shower.....

>

> So, yeah...um...kinda been fun. And so now...I'd

> like to meet him...go to Paris...but I'm aiming to

> go in the Fall (my favorite time of year

> there)...and I'd like to be SIZZLING when I meet

> him...so that he can fully appreciate standing next

> to my fire. ; )

>

> Robynn

>

> Pamela A Marsh sweetnlow20012001@...> wrote:

> I don't see it Robynn, maybe some day. I can't wait

> until you have your surgery to see your

> response...but

> then again, you are not going to have a problem

> because you are one of the most confident people I

> know and that is a great thing. Again, thank you

> and

> I forgot to say to you that I am sorry about the

> pile

> and I hope you can see the light at the end of the

> tunnel before long.

>

> Are you close with your 10%. I hope so and I wish

> you

> well with it.

>

> Pam Marsh

> --- Robynn VanPatten robynnsf@...> wrote:

>

> > Exsqueeeeeeeze me??? Have you LOOKED in a mirror

> > yet, or what? You are a super ultra-babelicous

> > chippy!!!

> >

> > Kisses,

> > Robynn

> >

> > Pamela A Marsh sweetnlow20012001@...>

> wrote:

> > Thank you Robynn. I would love to walk the lake

> > with

> > you and Pascha and I would do lunch with you as

> > well.

> >

> > I don't know a thing about being ultra-babelicious

> > > chippies!!! but someday I hope to be there.

> >

> > Big hug to you.

> >

> > Pam Marsh

> >

> > --- Robynn VanPatten robynnsf@...>

> wrote:

> >

> > > Pam..

> > >

> > > I find it hard to believe that anyone would turn

> > > their back on you...your spirit remains the

> same,

> > > regardless of the shape of the shell in which it

> > > dwells. Your body is just starting to reflect

> > more

> > > accurately the " you " that is inside. I'm so

> sorry

> > > you are experiencing this kind of treatment.

> You

> > > certainly don't deserve it, and it really pains

> me

> > > to hear that you are being mistreated.

> > >

> > > Well, the other one who teased you about not

> > wanting

> > > to be seen with you will soon experience the

> same

> > > thing. That will wake her up and will create a

> > bond

> > > between the two of you. Nothing like going on a

> > > life-altering journey together to create a bond.

>

> > I

> > > mean...look at how important we are all to one

> > > another.

> > >

> > > I must say that I will be quite shocked if I

> start

> > > being treated differently by my true friends

> once

> > I

> > > am thinner. After all, I'm such a loud mouthed

> > > attention grabber now that they are used to me

> > > stealing their thunder, anyway. LOL. But, what

> I

> > > am saying is that I imagine it would be shocking

> > and

> > > very hurtful.

> > >

> > > What I would suggest? If they mean a lot to

> > > you...give them time to adjust. You eating your

> > > tiny portions may make them feel embarrassed

> about

> > > their own eating. Or, maybe...is it possible

> that

> > > they don't want to tempt you while you are on

> this

> > > journey, so they are trying to " protect " you

> from

> > > being exposed to all of the crap they shove down

> > > their gullets at lunch? That's giving them the

> > > greatest benefit of the doubt, of course...but

> > maybe

> > > that's the case?

> > >

> > > You have your family. And you have me, Pam.

> I'd

> > be

> > > happy to go with you to lunch from time to time.

>

> > > (As you know...I hardly ever get to leave my

> desk

> > or

> > > get away from meetings to actually take a real

> > > lunch...but when I do...hey. Count me in.)

> Also,

> > > I'd like to walk the lake with you, too. I'll

> > bring

> > > some shoes and try to keep a change of clothes

> at

> > > work, and maybe we can start doing that. I have

> > > Pilates on Monday and Wednesday during the

> > > day....but I can handle a couple more days of

> > > walking. I'd love to share that time with you,

> > > anyway...so it would be killing two birds with

> one

> > > stone.

> > >

> > > Sorry I have been silent for a while. I was up

> in

> > > the Northwest on a business trip, and came back

> to

> > a

> > > massive to the ceiling pile of work upon my

> > return.

> > > Woe is me.

> > >

> > > Anyway...we all want people who genuinely care

> > about

> > > us in our corner. People that will be with us,

> > and

> > > there fr us, no matter what. So, although it is

> > > difficult to go through...in a way, your

> > friendships

> > > are being purified by fire. When the fire has

> > > finished burning, the chaff will blow away. You

> > > don't need chaff in your life. Those same

> people

> > > who reject you now are the ones who, under the

> > > disguise of friendship, were always looking out

> > for

> > > number one. That's obvious, or they would be

> more

> > > supportive now. You want people in your life

> that

> > > love you, ,treat you well, support you...and

> want

> > > nothing but good things for you. And you know

> > what?

>

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May 13, 2005

You've discoverede a great thing about talk (as opposed to " just "

writing - That's important too!). The more you say whatever it is

( " I was abused " , " I was raped " , No one ever loved me " , " I'm

scared " , " I'm lonely " , " I'm an addict. " ) especially when you say it

to another human being, these things start to lose their power over

us. We start to rewire our brainboxes. You haven't left the

bariatric freeway, but it sounds like you've merged into the lane

many of us " Posties " drive in. Enjoy the ride!

Uncle Timmy -236

> > > > I know I have posted before about spending more

> > " me " time, and

> > > about

> > > > the fact that the people I used to go to lunch

> > with exclude me

> > now

> > > > (which I am alright about that now). I have

> > finally accepted the

> > > > coming and going of people (whether they are

> > friends or not) but

> > > > yesterday just took be by surprise.

> > > >

> > > > I was going on a errand for one of my attorneys

> > and on the way I

> > > saw

> > > > one of my coworkers (I also consider us friends)

> > and so I yelled

> > > out to

> > > > her " come walk with me " (we were going one block

> > away and this

> > was

> > > her

> > > > response " Hell no, I aint walking with your

> > skinny ass " . I said

> > > what.

> > > > She said you are looking too cute and skinny for

> > my fat ass to be

> > > > walking with you. You will be getting so much

> > attention. I said

> > > you

> > > > need to quit. I told her I was just telling

> > someone that I have

> > > no

> > > > friends now that no one wants to do lunch or

> > anything anymore.

> > > She got

> > > > approved for the surgery around April 7th I

> > think and is waiting

> > > for

> > > > her orientation.

> > > >

> > > > Well, as we proceeded to walk this coffee guy

> > (has a coffee

> > stand)

> > > > waved (I was not looking) and she yelled out to

> > him " hey " and he

> > > said

> > > > no I am talking to her. I thought that was so

> > rude. She said

> > you

> > > > don't even know who she is do you and he said no

> > but she is hella

> > > > fine. After she told him who I was he said oh

> > my gosh. Then he

> > > did

> > > > apologize to my friend. I felt so bad because

> > it was not so long

> > > ago

> > > > when I was receiving that very same treatment.

> > It really boggles

> > > my

> > > > mind because I don't see a skinny me. I know I

> > have curves (a

> > > great

> > > > figure I might add) but I don't see such a

> > difference. I stared

> > > out at

> > > > 249.5 and I weigh 182 as of this morning. I

> > know that is 67.5

> > > pounds

> > > > but its hard for my brain to mesh it all

> > together to see that big

> > > of a

> > > > difference. Maybe in time.

> > > >

> > > > This is certainly a life changing journey and

> > although I am not

> > > having

> > > > issues with food or about food at this point,

> > the emotional side

> > > of

> > > > this journey can be overwhelming on most days.

> > > >

> > > > I I can truly say I have no friends and maybe I

> > did not have any

> > > from

> > > > the beginning but it just has become crystle

> > clear post surgery.

> > > >

> > > > Thanks for listening.

> > > >

> > > > Pam Marsh-Feb 8th w/Dr. Park & Dr. Baggs (KP

> > Rich.)(3 months post

> > > op)

> > > > 182-40 pounds post surgery (67.5 total)

> > > > Goal: 130 (52 pounds to go)

> >

>

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I'm sorry, Robynn, but the title " Most Subborn Two Pounds on the

Planet " goes to the lump of grey jelly between my ears! (LOL!)

Uncle Timmy -236

> > > > > I know I have posted before about spending

> > more

> > > > " me " time, and

> > > > about

> > > > > the fact that the people I used to go to lunch

> > > > with exclude me now

> > > > > (which I am alright about that now). I have

> > > > finally accepted the

> > > > > coming and going of people (whether they are

> > > > friends or not) but

> > > > > yesterday just took be by surprise.

> > > > >

> > > > > I was going on a errand for one of my

> > attorneys

> > > > and on the way I

> > > > saw

> > > > > one of my coworkers (I also consider us

> > friends)

> > > > and so I yelled

> > > > out to

> > > > > her " come walk with me " (we were going one

> > block

> > > > away and this was

> > > > her

> > > > > response " Hell no, I aint walking with your

> > > skinny

> > > > ass " . I said

> > > > what.

> > > > > She said you are looking too cute and skinny

> > for

> > > > my fat ass to be

> > > > > walking with you. You will be getting so much

> >

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I think I posted this a time or two but no one replied

to it and its okay. Don't want to put anyone on the

spot but when are you and Robynn going to sit down and

write that best seller. I have learned so much from

you guys and all the other people on this site.

Pam Marsh

--- Uncle Timmy n01un0@...> wrote:

> You've discoverede a great thing about talk (as

> opposed to " just "

> writing - That's important too!). The more you say

> whatever it is

> ( " I was abused " , " I was raped " , No one ever loved

> me " , " I'm

> scared " , " I'm lonely " , " I'm an addict. " ) especially

> when you say it

> to another human being, these things start to lose

> their power over

> us. We start to rewire our brainboxes. You haven't

> left the

> bariatric freeway, but it sounds like you've merged

> into the lane

> many of us " Posties " drive in. Enjoy the ride!

>

> Uncle Timmy -236

>

> > > > > I know I have posted before about spending

> more

> > > " me " time, and

> > > > about

> > > > > the fact that the people I used to go to

> lunch

> > > with exclude me

> > > now

> > > > > (which I am alright about that now). I have

> > > finally accepted the

> > > > > coming and going of people (whether they are

> > > friends or not) but

> > > > > yesterday just took be by surprise.

> > > > >

> > > > > I was going on a errand for one of my

> attorneys

> > > and on the way I

> > > > saw

> > > > > one of my coworkers (I also consider us

> friends)

> > > and so I yelled

> > > > out to

> > > > > her " come walk with me " (we were going one

> block

> > > away and this

> > > was

> > > > her

> > > > > response " Hell no, I aint walking with your

> > > skinny ass " . I said

> > > > what.

> > > > > She said you are looking too cute and skinny

> for

> > > my fat ass to be

> > > > > walking with you. You will be getting so

> much

> > > attention. I said

> > > > you

> > > > > need to quit. I told her I was just telling

> > > someone that I have

> > > > no

> > > > > friends now that no one wants to do lunch or

> > > anything anymore.

> > > > She got

> > > > > approved for the surgery around April 7th I

> > > think and is waiting

> > > > for

> > > > > her orientation.

> > > > >

> > > > > Well, as we proceeded to walk this coffee

> guy

> > > (has a coffee

> > > stand)

> > > > > waved (I was not looking) and she yelled out

> to

> > > him " hey " and he

> > > > said

> > > > > no I am talking to her. I thought that was

> so

> > > rude. She said

> > > you

> > > > > don't even know who she is do you and he

> said no

> > > but she is hella

> > > > > fine. After she told him who I was he said

> oh

> > > my gosh. Then he

> > > > did

> > > > > apologize to my friend. I felt so bad

> because

> > > it was not so long

> > > > ago

> > > > > when I was receiving that very same

> treatment.

> > > It really boggles

> > > > my

> > > > > mind because I don't see a skinny me. I

> know I

> > > have curves (a

> > > > great

> > > > > figure I might add) but I don't see such a

> > > difference. I stared

> > > > out at

> > > > > 249.5 and I weigh 182 as of this morning. I

> > > know that is 67.5

> > > > pounds

> > > > > but its hard for my brain to mesh it all

> > > together to see that big

> > > > of a

> > > > > difference. Maybe in time.

> > > > >

> > > > > This is certainly a life changing journey

> and

> > > although I am not

> > > > having

> > > > > issues with food or about food at this

> point,

> > > the emotional side

> > > > of

> > > > > this journey can be overwhelming on most

> days.

> > > > >

> > > > > I I can truly say I have no friends and

> maybe I

>

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I don't know as I might be away in training in September. My husband is

going to Arkansas for ten months, to learn how to tach blind people how to

use their computers, and I am trying to decide if I want to go with him and

study something there or stay home and study something. I hate to leave my

house, but I think it would depress me terribly to be without Dan for that

long. Oh he'd get to come home for holidays, but that's all, and I'd

probably be able to go to see him a time or two, but that probably won't be

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