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--- In , " marie " <mariereyes@...

Hello, When my son was maybe 2 1/2 yrs old, we had him evaluated

for autism at a big childrens hospital....they also told me he was

mildly autistic or actually they said pddnos....they also told me that

he may also be global dev delayed or mr...my world just stopped!

I knew that that couldn't be true and I was right...he is now 9yrs old,

maybe pddnos (I say that because most of his symptoms are gone for a

long time now) and has dyspraxia/apraxia. He attends regular

classroom, plays football on a team and has friends:) He gets mostly

A's in school and is most definitely not MR----do not believe

everything they say, when they don't have any/or alot of expressive

lang it is very hard for them to tell! Hang in there!

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Hi Marie-

I would do a stool analysis and throat culture to check for strep -

that could be causing the OCD. Treat with amoxicillin and then recheck

if the strep is in his gut (stool analysis - you can do this through

CPL or Quest). Treating gut strep was very effective for my son's OCD

behaviors. Also, a form of inositol called IP6 is effective for OCD at

1500 mg/day. If you google " OCD IP6 " or " OCD inositol hexaphosphate "

you'll see the studies.

It's good that your son forms quick social connections - that is one

big thing you don't have to work on.

For the sensory issues, I would do an IgG food panel and remove foods

that he is sensitive to - food sensitivities caused my daughter's

sensory issues. This was a quick fix for us.

To help with language, I recommend carnaware (carnaware.com, 4

caps/day) and liposomal glutathione (wellnesshealth.com, essential GSH

- 1/2 tsp twice a day). Also add multi-vitamin and mineral (without

copper) like Brainchild (brainchildnutritionals.com). Methyl B12

injections were very helpful for both my kids - you can get them

prescribed by a Dan doc or many DOs. Give oral folinic acid along with

the B12 injections.

I would also recommend that you consider ABA therapy. Depending on

which state you are in, you may be able to get funding through your

school district. A good first book on ABA is " Let Me Hear Your Voice "

by Maurice. ABA is a very helpful therapy, even if your children are

less severely affected than Maurice's children were.

Can you appeal to your insurance company for more speech and for OT?

Sometimes ins companies deny things initially just to see if the

customer will accept it. Talk to a case manager and have your child's

doctor write a rx for the therapies.

Don't listen to this geneticist. He doesn't know what's up with your

child, and there is no way that he can tell what your child's IQ is.

Forget about him and work as hard as you can - YOU can make a huge

difference in your child's outcome! Don't give up!!

>

> My son is 3 1/2. He says less than 5 words and those are only when

prompted. He has OCD

> behaviors and has been evaluated both educationaly and medically for

being on the asd. Both

> times they said he is just barely below due to the fact you can make

a social connection after

> he meets you pretty quick, His official diagnosis is global

developmental delay. I had a

> genetics specialist with a not so good bedside manner tell me it is

called that at age 3 but at

> age 5 it is mental retarted. All of his genetics came back normal,

although he has a history of

> plagiocephaly and just met the criteria for macrocephaly. Does this

sound like anyone else? I

> would love some input, this can be a lonely world sometimes when you

are surrounded by

> kids who are not special kids like ours. We are in speech but do to

my insurance we only get

> 26 visits a year and were just denied ot which he needs for sensory

issues. Any thoughts,

> comments would be nice

>

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Similar to another poster, I wanted to inquire ... is your son getting

services through your school district? He should be. gets

comprehensive (and wonderful) services through our school district (EI

before that) and we don't pay a cent (except taxes ;-) ).

The term " global developmental delay " at age 3 is really ... hit or

miss. Some kids catch up (hence the " delay " part) and others don't and

those kids will eventually be diagnosed as mentally retarded. HOWEVER,

with kids this age who are non-verbal ( or close to it), this suspicion

is often flat-out wrong. We had a psychologist suspect global delay (he

did NOT do cognitive testing), but less than a year later, had a

psycho-educational assessment for transition to school services and she

tested *above* average in intelligence. I would not put too much stock

in the globally delayed part just yet.

I hope that helps! This is so hard, isn't it?

Warm regards,

******************

(Rochester, NY)

Mom to , 3.4 years, Verbal Apraxia

& , 1.2 years (and babbling away!)

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Sent: Friday, September 22, 2006 1:16 AM

Subject: [ ] Just below ASD

My son is 3 1/2. He says less than 5 words and those are only when

prompted. He has OCD

behaviors and has been evaluated both educationaly and medically for

being on the asd. Both

times they said he is just barely below due to the fact you can make a

social connection after

he meets you pretty quick, His official diagnosis is global

developmental delay. I had a

genetics specialist with a not so good bedside manner tell me it is

called that at age 3 but at

age 5 it is mental retarted. All of his genetics came back normal,

although he has a history of

plagiocephaly and just met the criteria for macrocephaly. Does this

sound like anyone else? I

would love some input, this can be a lonely world sometimes when you are

surrounded by

kids who are not special kids like ours. We are in speech but do to my

insurance we only get

26 visits a year and were just denied ot which he needs for sensory

issues. Any thoughts,

comments would be nice

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--- In , " marie " <mariereyes@...

Hello, When my son was maybe 2 1/2 yrs old, we had him evaluated

for autism at a big childrens hospital....they also told me he was

mildly autistic or actually they said pddnos....they also told me that

he may also be global dev delayed or mr...my world just stopped!

I knew that that couldn't be true and I was right...he is now 9yrs old,

maybe pddnos (I say that because most of his symptoms are gone for a

long time now) and has dyspraxia/apraxia. He attends regular

classroom, plays football on a team and has friends:) He gets mostly

A's in school and is most definitely not MR----do not believe

everything they say, when they don't have any/or alot of expressive

lang it is very hard for them to tell! Hang in there!

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Hi ,

Why is the copper a problem? ( " Also add multi-vitamin and mineral

(without copper) like Brainchild (brainchildnutritionals.com). "

> >

> > My son is 3 1/2. He says less than 5 words and those are only

when

> prompted. He has OCD

> > behaviors and has been evaluated both educationaly and medically

for

> being on the asd. Both

> > times they said he is just barely below due to the fact you can

make

> a social connection after

> > he meets you pretty quick, His official diagnosis is global

> developmental delay. I had a

> > genetics specialist with a not so good bedside manner tell me it

is

> called that at age 3 but at

> > age 5 it is mental retarted. All of his genetics came back

normal,

> although he has a history of

> > plagiocephaly and just met the criteria for macrocephaly. Does

this

> sound like anyone else? I

> > would love some input, this can be a lonely world sometimes when

you

> are surrounded by

> > kids who are not special kids like ours. We are in speech but do

to

> my insurance we only get

> > 26 visits a year and were just denied ot which he needs for

sensory

> issues. Any thoughts,

> > comments would be nice

> >

>

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Hi Marie-

I would do a stool analysis and throat culture to check for strep -

that could be causing the OCD. Treat with amoxicillin and then recheck

if the strep is in his gut (stool analysis - you can do this through

CPL or Quest). Treating gut strep was very effective for my son's OCD

behaviors. Also, a form of inositol called IP6 is effective for OCD at

1500 mg/day. If you google " OCD IP6 " or " OCD inositol hexaphosphate "

you'll see the studies.

It's good that your son forms quick social connections - that is one

big thing you don't have to work on.

For the sensory issues, I would do an IgG food panel and remove foods

that he is sensitive to - food sensitivities caused my daughter's

sensory issues. This was a quick fix for us.

To help with language, I recommend carnaware (carnaware.com, 4

caps/day) and liposomal glutathione (wellnesshealth.com, essential GSH

- 1/2 tsp twice a day). Also add multi-vitamin and mineral (without

copper) like Brainchild (brainchildnutritionals.com). Methyl B12

injections were very helpful for both my kids - you can get them

prescribed by a Dan doc or many DOs. Give oral folinic acid along with

the B12 injections.

I would also recommend that you consider ABA therapy. Depending on

which state you are in, you may be able to get funding through your

school district. A good first book on ABA is " Let Me Hear Your Voice "

by Maurice. ABA is a very helpful therapy, even if your children are

less severely affected than Maurice's children were.

Can you appeal to your insurance company for more speech and for OT?

Sometimes ins companies deny things initially just to see if the

customer will accept it. Talk to a case manager and have your child's

doctor write a rx for the therapies.

Don't listen to this geneticist. He doesn't know what's up with your

child, and there is no way that he can tell what your child's IQ is.

Forget about him and work as hard as you can - YOU can make a huge

difference in your child's outcome! Don't give up!!

>

> My son is 3 1/2. He says less than 5 words and those are only when

prompted. He has OCD

> behaviors and has been evaluated both educationaly and medically for

being on the asd. Both

> times they said he is just barely below due to the fact you can make

a social connection after

> he meets you pretty quick, His official diagnosis is global

developmental delay. I had a

> genetics specialist with a not so good bedside manner tell me it is

called that at age 3 but at

> age 5 it is mental retarted. All of his genetics came back normal,

although he has a history of

> plagiocephaly and just met the criteria for macrocephaly. Does this

sound like anyone else? I

> would love some input, this can be a lonely world sometimes when you

are surrounded by

> kids who are not special kids like ours. We are in speech but do to

my insurance we only get

> 26 visits a year and were just denied ot which he needs for sensory

issues. Any thoughts,

> comments would be nice

>

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Similar to another poster, I wanted to inquire ... is your son getting

services through your school district? He should be. gets

comprehensive (and wonderful) services through our school district (EI

before that) and we don't pay a cent (except taxes ;-) ).

The term " global developmental delay " at age 3 is really ... hit or

miss. Some kids catch up (hence the " delay " part) and others don't and

those kids will eventually be diagnosed as mentally retarded. HOWEVER,

with kids this age who are non-verbal ( or close to it), this suspicion

is often flat-out wrong. We had a psychologist suspect global delay (he

did NOT do cognitive testing), but less than a year later, had a

psycho-educational assessment for transition to school services and she

tested *above* average in intelligence. I would not put too much stock

in the globally delayed part just yet.

I hope that helps! This is so hard, isn't it?

Warm regards,

******************

(Rochester, NY)

Mom to , 3.4 years, Verbal Apraxia

& , 1.2 years (and babbling away!)

________________________________

From:

[mailto: ] On Behalf Of marie

Sent: Friday, September 22, 2006 1:16 AM

Subject: [ ] Just below ASD

My son is 3 1/2. He says less than 5 words and those are only when

prompted. He has OCD

behaviors and has been evaluated both educationaly and medically for

being on the asd. Both

times they said he is just barely below due to the fact you can make a

social connection after

he meets you pretty quick, His official diagnosis is global

developmental delay. I had a

genetics specialist with a not so good bedside manner tell me it is

called that at age 3 but at

age 5 it is mental retarted. All of his genetics came back normal,

although he has a history of

plagiocephaly and just met the criteria for macrocephaly. Does this

sound like anyone else? I

would love some input, this can be a lonely world sometimes when you are

surrounded by

kids who are not special kids like ours. We are in speech but do to my

insurance we only get

26 visits a year and were just denied ot which he needs for sensory

issues. Any thoughts,

comments would be nice

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Hi ,

Why is the copper a problem? ( " Also add multi-vitamin and mineral

(without copper) like Brainchild (brainchildnutritionals.com). "

> >

> > My son is 3 1/2. He says less than 5 words and those are only

when

> prompted. He has OCD

> > behaviors and has been evaluated both educationaly and medically

for

> being on the asd. Both

> > times they said he is just barely below due to the fact you can

make

> a social connection after

> > he meets you pretty quick, His official diagnosis is global

> developmental delay. I had a

> > genetics specialist with a not so good bedside manner tell me it

is

> called that at age 3 but at

> > age 5 it is mental retarted. All of his genetics came back

normal,

> although he has a history of

> > plagiocephaly and just met the criteria for macrocephaly. Does

this

> sound like anyone else? I

> > would love some input, this can be a lonely world sometimes when

you

> are surrounded by

> > kids who are not special kids like ours. We are in speech but do

to

> my insurance we only get

> > 26 visits a year and were just denied ot which he needs for

sensory

> issues. Any thoughts,

> > comments would be nice

> >

>

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In children with ASD (and this was true for my daughter with apraxia

also), copper is often too high, particularly relative to zinc levels.

I definitely would not give copper without testing levels and making

sure that my child needed it.

> > >

> > > My son is 3 1/2. He says less than 5 words and those are only

> when

> > prompted. He has OCD

> > > behaviors and has been evaluated both educationaly and medically

> for

> > being on the asd. Both

> > > times they said he is just barely below due to the fact you can

> make

> > a social connection after

> > > he meets you pretty quick, His official diagnosis is global

> > developmental delay. I had a

> > > genetics specialist with a not so good bedside manner tell me it

> is

> > called that at age 3 but at

> > > age 5 it is mental retarted. All of his genetics came back

> normal,

> > although he has a history of

> > > plagiocephaly and just met the criteria for macrocephaly. Does

> this

> > sound like anyone else? I

> > > would love some input, this can be a lonely world sometimes when

> you

> > are surrounded by

> > > kids who are not special kids like ours. We are in speech but do

> to

> > my insurance we only get

> > > 26 visits a year and were just denied ot which he needs for

> sensory

> > issues. Any thoughts,

> > > comments would be nice

> > >

> >

>

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In children with ASD (and this was true for my daughter with apraxia

also), copper is often too high, particularly relative to zinc levels.

I definitely would not give copper without testing levels and making

sure that my child needed it.

> > >

> > > My son is 3 1/2. He says less than 5 words and those are only

> when

> > prompted. He has OCD

> > > behaviors and has been evaluated both educationaly and medically

> for

> > being on the asd. Both

> > > times they said he is just barely below due to the fact you can

> make

> > a social connection after

> > > he meets you pretty quick, His official diagnosis is global

> > developmental delay. I had a

> > > genetics specialist with a not so good bedside manner tell me it

> is

> > called that at age 3 but at

> > > age 5 it is mental retarted. All of his genetics came back

> normal,

> > although he has a history of

> > > plagiocephaly and just met the criteria for macrocephaly. Does

> this

> > sound like anyone else? I

> > > would love some input, this can be a lonely world sometimes when

> you

> > are surrounded by

> > > kids who are not special kids like ours. We are in speech but do

> to

> > my insurance we only get

> > > 26 visits a year and were just denied ot which he needs for

> sensory

> > issues. Any thoughts,

> > > comments would be nice

> > >

> >

>

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Thanks - I know it's an ingrediant (in trace amounts) in many

multivits and I was wondering if I should avoid it.

> > > >

> > > > My son is 3 1/2. He says less than 5 words and those are

only

> > when

> > > prompted. He has OCD

> > > > behaviors and has been evaluated both educationaly and

medically

> > for

> > > being on the asd. Both

> > > > times they said he is just barely below due to the fact you

can

> > make

> > > a social connection after

> > > > he meets you pretty quick, His official diagnosis is global

> > > developmental delay. I had a

> > > > genetics specialist with a not so good bedside manner tell

me it

> > is

> > > called that at age 3 but at

> > > > age 5 it is mental retarted. All of his genetics came back

> > normal,

> > > although he has a history of

> > > > plagiocephaly and just met the criteria for macrocephaly.

Does

> > this

> > > sound like anyone else? I

> > > > would love some input, this can be a lonely world sometimes

when

> > you

> > > are surrounded by

> > > > kids who are not special kids like ours. We are in speech

but do

> > to

> > > my insurance we only get

> > > > 26 visits a year and were just denied ot which he needs for

> > sensory

> > > issues. Any thoughts,

> > > > comments would be nice

> > > >

> > >

> >

>

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Thanks - I know it's an ingrediant (in trace amounts) in many

multivits and I was wondering if I should avoid it.

> > > >

> > > > My son is 3 1/2. He says less than 5 words and those are

only

> > when

> > > prompted. He has OCD

> > > > behaviors and has been evaluated both educationaly and

medically

> > for

> > > being on the asd. Both

> > > > times they said he is just barely below due to the fact you

can

> > make

> > > a social connection after

> > > > he meets you pretty quick, His official diagnosis is global

> > > developmental delay. I had a

> > > > genetics specialist with a not so good bedside manner tell

me it

> > is

> > > called that at age 3 but at

> > > > age 5 it is mental retarted. All of his genetics came back

> > normal,

> > > although he has a history of

> > > > plagiocephaly and just met the criteria for macrocephaly.

Does

> > this

> > > sound like anyone else? I

> > > > would love some input, this can be a lonely world sometimes

when

> > you

> > > are surrounded by

> > > > kids who are not special kids like ours. We are in speech

but do

> > to

> > > my insurance we only get

> > > > 26 visits a year and were just denied ot which he needs for

> > sensory

> > > issues. Any thoughts,

> > > > comments would be nice

> > > >

> > >

> >

>

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I don't understand how they can diagnos a child that young unless the symtpms

are evident. PDD-NOS means they are unsure....

Can you please elaborate on globally dev. delay?

I am getting my endorsement / masters in autism...any info would be helpful

for me to research.

Thank you!!!!

Tonya

ritas2boys <gingras440@...> wrote:

--- In , " marie " <mariereyes@...

Hello, When my son was maybe 2 1/2 yrs old, we had him evaluated

for autism at a big childrens hospital....they also told me he was

mildly autistic or actually they said pddnos....they also told me that

he may also be global dev delayed or mr...my world just stopped!

I knew that that couldn't be true and I was right...he is now 9yrs old,

maybe pddnos (I say that because most of his symptoms are gone for a

long time now) and has dyspraxia/apraxia. He attends regular

classroom, plays football on a team and has friends:) He gets mostly

A's in school and is most definitely not MR----do not believe

everything they say, when they don't have any/or alot of expressive

lang it is very hard for them to tell! Hang in there!

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PDD-NOS is the dx whenever a child meets the criteria for a prevasive

developmental disorder, but doesn't fit the definition of a specific

PDD. I've never associated the dx with a lack of certainty, though

certainly it indicates less severity than an autism diagnosis.

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>

> I don't understand how they can diagnos a child that young unless

the symtpms are evident. PDD-NOS means they are unsure....

>

> Can you please elaborate on globally dev. delay?

>

> I am getting my endorsement / masters in autism...any info would

be helpful for me to research.

>

> Thank you!!!!

> Tonya

>

Hi Tonya....they can and do diagnos kids at around age two. Our

first pdd dx came when my son was about 20 months old....he had

stopped babbling, became extremely picky with foods, and was self-

stimming.

He also seemed social, lovable and warm. They gave him dx of pddnos.

(later when he was around 4 he got dx of apraxia.) He is not global

dev delayed but when he was 2 they thought he may possably

be...which some people think is the same as MR.

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I don't understand how they can diagnos a child that young unless the symtpms

are evident. PDD-NOS means they are unsure....

Can you please elaborate on globally dev. delay?

I am getting my endorsement / masters in autism...any info would be helpful

for me to research.

Thank you!!!!

Tonya

ritas2boys <gingras440@...> wrote:

--- In , " marie " <mariereyes@...

Hello, When my son was maybe 2 1/2 yrs old, we had him evaluated

for autism at a big childrens hospital....they also told me he was

mildly autistic or actually they said pddnos....they also told me that

he may also be global dev delayed or mr...my world just stopped!

I knew that that couldn't be true and I was right...he is now 9yrs old,

maybe pddnos (I say that because most of his symptoms are gone for a

long time now) and has dyspraxia/apraxia. He attends regular

classroom, plays football on a team and has friends:) He gets mostly

A's in school and is most definitely not MR----do not believe

everything they say, when they don't have any/or alot of expressive

lang it is very hard for them to tell! Hang in there!

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PDD-NOS is the dx whenever a child meets the criteria for a prevasive

developmental disorder, but doesn't fit the definition of a specific

PDD. I've never associated the dx with a lack of certainty, though

certainly it indicates less severity than an autism diagnosis.

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>

> I don't understand how they can diagnos a child that young unless

the symtpms are evident. PDD-NOS means they are unsure....

>

> Can you please elaborate on globally dev. delay?

>

> I am getting my endorsement / masters in autism...any info would

be helpful for me to research.

>

> Thank you!!!!

> Tonya

>

Hi Tonya....they can and do diagnos kids at around age two. Our

first pdd dx came when my son was about 20 months old....he had

stopped babbling, became extremely picky with foods, and was self-

stimming.

He also seemed social, lovable and warm. They gave him dx of pddnos.

(later when he was around 4 he got dx of apraxia.) He is not global

dev delayed but when he was 2 they thought he may possably

be...which some people think is the same as MR.

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Laurie Mom to Mic 5 yrs old ds/asd. I dont think a child has to be non social to

be considered asd. Mic is a very social little boy and always has been. He likes

people and kids but doesnt play with them appropiately. He has plenty of OCD

behaviors, I would find another doctor. Maybe mild asd but not just below. I

know of several asd kids in Mics school that are social and you have to be dxed

asd to be in that school. Something just doesnt seem right here.Mic is

considered moderately autistic because we do have the social part we just fit

most all the rest of the criteria. If you get a diagnosis your services will be

much better. I have seen children severely autistic change into normal happy

social talking kids using ABA. I just wanted tp put my 2 cents in here. Mic

would be considered globally delayed but thats not a clear dx is it. I hope you

find some answers. Laurie

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Ditto - my son with ASD is very social. He also likes people but

doesn't play with them appropriately. Lack of social interest is not

necessary for an ASD dx. My son has also benefitted greatly from ABA.

>

> Laurie Mom to Mic 5 yrs old ds/asd. I dont think a child has to be

non social to be considered asd. Mic is a very social little boy and

always has been. He likes people and kids but doesnt play with them

appropiately. He has plenty of OCD behaviors, I would find another

doctor. Maybe mild asd but not just below. I know of several asd kids

in Mics school that are social and you have to be dxed asd to be in

that school. Something just doesnt seem right here.Mic is considered

moderately autistic because we do have the social part we just fit

most all the rest of the criteria. If you get a diagnosis your

services will be much better. I have seen children severely autistic

change into normal happy social talking kids using ABA. I just wanted

tp put my 2 cents in here. Mic would be considered globally delayed

but thats not a clear dx is it. I hope you find some answers. Laurie

>

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I don't think this is uncommon--to give a diagnosis of PDD NOS when

they are uncertain of diagnosis. Many people feel that when PDD

gets dropped when the child is older it means the diagnosis was

incorrect to begin with. (Is this what happened with your child?)

I've been told that when parents push for a diagnosis doctors fall

back on PDD NOS.

> >

> > I don't understand how they can diagnos a child that young

unless

> the symtpms are evident. PDD-NOS means they are unsure....

> >

> > Can you please elaborate on globally dev. delay?

> >

> > I am getting my endorsement / masters in autism...any info

would

> be helpful for me to research.

> >

> > Thank you!!!!

> > Tonya

> >

> Hi Tonya....they can and do diagnos kids at around age two. Our

> first pdd dx came when my son was about 20 months old....he had

> stopped babbling, became extremely picky with foods, and was

self-

> stimming.

> He also seemed social, lovable and warm. They gave him dx of

pddnos.

> (later when he was around 4 he got dx of apraxia.) He is not

global

> dev delayed but when he was 2 they thought he may possably

> be...which some people think is the same as MR.

>

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I think this is controversial. The cornerstone of autism is a

failure to relate socially (according to the original definition).

Some would argue that a child who is social is not truly autistic.

Autism is not supposed to be curable, so again, many would argue

that a child who " overcomes " autism was not autistic to begin with.

Some parents seem satisfied that their child's ASD diagnosis fits in

spite of the child's social interest and affection. Other parents

feel their child has been mislabeled. I've also read there are

different models to diagnos ASD and PDD, clinical, educational and

behavioral (the last two might be one in the same and are more

liberal). I find all of this really confusing. Why wouldn't there

be a standard model for diagnosis and a fixed criteria?

For those parents whose children have been diagnosed with ASD and

PDD, but who are social and affectionate, I wonder what type of

professional made the diagnosis, and what model did they use?

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> Laurie Mom to Mic 5 yrs old ds/asd. I dont think a child has to be

non social to be considered asd. Mic is a very social little boy and

always has been. He likes people and kids but doesnt play with them

appropiately. He has plenty of OCD behaviors, I would find another

doctor. Maybe mild asd but not just below. I know of several asd

kids in Mics school that are social and you have to be dxed asd to

be in that school. Something just doesnt seem right here.Mic is

considered moderately autistic because we do have the social part we

just fit most all the rest of the criteria. If you get a diagnosis

your services will be much better. I have seen children severely

autistic change into normal happy social talking kids using ABA. I

just wanted tp put my 2 cents in here. Mic would be considered

globally delayed but thats not a clear dx is it. I hope you find

some answers. Laurie

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Laurie Mom to Mic 5 yrs old ds/asd. I dont think a child has to be non social to

be considered asd. Mic is a very social little boy and always has been. He likes

people and kids but doesnt play with them appropiately. He has plenty of OCD

behaviors, I would find another doctor. Maybe mild asd but not just below. I

know of several asd kids in Mics school that are social and you have to be dxed

asd to be in that school. Something just doesnt seem right here.Mic is

considered moderately autistic because we do have the social part we just fit

most all the rest of the criteria. If you get a diagnosis your services will be

much better. I have seen children severely autistic change into normal happy

social talking kids using ABA. I just wanted tp put my 2 cents in here. Mic

would be considered globally delayed but thats not a clear dx is it. I hope you

find some answers. Laurie

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