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I have always been that way even with franks or hot dogs I liked. But these

taste pretty

good and do not bother me at all. I am for that.

I have never been a cook and with all this talk about food tonight, I threw a

box of

Dreamfields elbows; a can of chicken noodle soup; Cut up a few of the ham chunks

into

smaller pieces and added from a bag of broccoli/coldslaw some of that. It is

very tasty

and for me a good choice. I hate veggys mostly and I even like the broccoli cut

in

slivers like it is. I just recently found that at Fred Meyer's here in the area.

ml

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>

> I think it's interesting that you say most franks upset your stomach because

since childhood, I have immediately " lost " any franks, bologna, cold cuts, etc.

that I eat. I can do deli meats if they are really cut from, say, a real piece

of beef or a real turkey breast, but the " roll " stuff I cannot do. My theory

about that is that I'm allergic or sensitive to some kind of binder they put

into such stuff. But, I have never heard anyone else say the same thing.

>

> ml wrote:I have found that having Butchers bun size

franks with chicken and pork from Safeway and

> Morrell cubed ham pieces that are packaged well and you can just cut a

part of the

> sealed package and then put in another bag and it keeps well and already to

eat. I like

> the franks because these particular ones don't upset my stomach, most do.

These are not

> perfect choices but much better than the unmentionables I want. You have to

find what

> you can tolerate and like at least to a degree. You could also put these in

with Dream

> Fields. You can have cheese on hand easy to cut or cut it up in pieces and

keep in a bag

> ready to go.

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I have always been that way even with franks or hot dogs I liked. But these

taste pretty

good and do not bother me at all. I am for that.

I have never been a cook and with all this talk about food tonight, I threw a

box of

Dreamfields elbows; a can of chicken noodle soup; Cut up a few of the ham chunks

into

smaller pieces and added from a bag of broccoli/coldslaw some of that. It is

very tasty

and for me a good choice. I hate veggys mostly and I even like the broccoli cut

in

slivers like it is. I just recently found that at Fred Meyer's here in the area.

ml

wrote:

>

> I think it's interesting that you say most franks upset your stomach because

since childhood, I have immediately " lost " any franks, bologna, cold cuts, etc.

that I eat. I can do deli meats if they are really cut from, say, a real piece

of beef or a real turkey breast, but the " roll " stuff I cannot do. My theory

about that is that I'm allergic or sensitive to some kind of binder they put

into such stuff. But, I have never heard anyone else say the same thing.

>

> ml wrote:I have found that having Butchers bun size

franks with chicken and pork from Safeway and

> Morrell cubed ham pieces that are packaged well and you can just cut a

part of the

> sealed package and then put in another bag and it keeps well and already to

eat. I like

> the franks because these particular ones don't upset my stomach, most do.

These are not

> perfect choices but much better than the unmentionables I want. You have to

find what

> you can tolerate and like at least to a degree. You could also put these in

with Dream

> Fields. You can have cheese on hand easy to cut or cut it up in pieces and

keep in a bag

> ready to go.

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I have always been that way even with franks or hot dogs I liked. But these

taste pretty

good and do not bother me at all. I am for that.

I have never been a cook and with all this talk about food tonight, I threw a

box of

Dreamfields elbows; a can of chicken noodle soup; Cut up a few of the ham chunks

into

smaller pieces and added from a bag of broccoli/coldslaw some of that. It is

very tasty

and for me a good choice. I hate veggys mostly and I even like the broccoli cut

in

slivers like it is. I just recently found that at Fred Meyer's here in the area.

ml

wrote:

>

> I think it's interesting that you say most franks upset your stomach because

since childhood, I have immediately " lost " any franks, bologna, cold cuts, etc.

that I eat. I can do deli meats if they are really cut from, say, a real piece

of beef or a real turkey breast, but the " roll " stuff I cannot do. My theory

about that is that I'm allergic or sensitive to some kind of binder they put

into such stuff. But, I have never heard anyone else say the same thing.

>

> ml wrote:I have found that having Butchers bun size

franks with chicken and pork from Safeway and

> Morrell cubed ham pieces that are packaged well and you can just cut a

part of the

> sealed package and then put in another bag and it keeps well and already to

eat. I like

> the franks because these particular ones don't upset my stomach, most do.

These are not

> perfect choices but much better than the unmentionables I want. You have to

find what

> you can tolerate and like at least to a degree. You could also put these in

with Dream

> Fields. You can have cheese on hand easy to cut or cut it up in pieces and

keep in a bag

> ready to go.

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Cappie, I think your back is much worse than mine. My arms and hands are

more trouble now and it's harder to use my rollator some days. Happy to

hear weight loss did you some good. Sorry about your pain.

Thanks for reminding me about the marinated veggies. Those are easy and

quick when hungry.

Laurel

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Cappie, I think your back is much worse than mine. My arms and hands are

more trouble now and it's harder to use my rollator some days. Happy to

hear weight loss did you some good. Sorry about your pain.

Thanks for reminding me about the marinated veggies. Those are easy and

quick when hungry.

Laurel

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Cappie, I think your back is much worse than mine. My arms and hands are

more trouble now and it's harder to use my rollator some days. Happy to

hear weight loss did you some good. Sorry about your pain.

Thanks for reminding me about the marinated veggies. Those are easy and

quick when hungry.

Laurel

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There are all sorts of meals available from mail order but I haven't tried

them yet. I do order my groceries from Safeway on the computer and it's

great. For a $9.95 delivery fee, they shop and deliver. My food arrives

with refrigerated items together and frozen food ,also. I just have him set

freezer food into my freezer and lately ordered very little refrigerated

food since I can't reach much in there.

Just google meal delivery and you will find places. I have a catalog or two

but can't reach them right now. Let me know if you don't find any.

Laurel

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There are all sorts of meals available from mail order but I haven't tried

them yet. I do order my groceries from Safeway on the computer and it's

great. For a $9.95 delivery fee, they shop and deliver. My food arrives

with refrigerated items together and frozen food ,also. I just have him set

freezer food into my freezer and lately ordered very little refrigerated

food since I can't reach much in there.

Just google meal delivery and you will find places. I have a catalog or two

but can't reach them right now. Let me know if you don't find any.

Laurel

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There are all sorts of meals available from mail order but I haven't tried

them yet. I do order my groceries from Safeway on the computer and it's

great. For a $9.95 delivery fee, they shop and deliver. My food arrives

with refrigerated items together and frozen food ,also. I just have him set

freezer food into my freezer and lately ordered very little refrigerated

food since I can't reach much in there.

Just google meal delivery and you will find places. I have a catalog or two

but can't reach them right now. Let me know if you don't find any.

Laurel

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Hi Laurel,

Sounds like you are having a rough time. Here in NC we have a

program called Meals on Wheels. Everyday a meal is delivered to

anyone who can't prepare their own meals. You might check with

Social Services and see if a program similar to that is available in

your area.

Hope you get to feeling better........ I know how hard it can be when

your back is out and you are by yourself.......

Take care...

in NC

> Thanks, Helen. I'll try some of the Life Choice meals. What is

> Dreamfields?

>

> Two of my three daughters live close to me. One has a chronically

ill baby

> and my other daughter helps her along with working full time with a

child of

> her own. I try very hard not to accept her help. I did when I

couldn't

> move at all but now that I'm doing better I want to find ways to

manage by

> myself. I didn't let my daughters know how bad this was until I

was better.

> My not local daughter told me she'd hire home health help if it

happens

> again but I was really okay alone except for not being able to get

meals and

> don't want someone hanging out. I can move better now and could

cook to

> freeze but can't stand or sit so trying to figure ways to prepare

food at

> bedside so I can stock my freezer. My back gets worse any time I

try to

> even do something as simple as fix a sandwich or heat soup. I can

barely

> reach anything in the frig since I can't bend.

>

> Laurel

>

>

>

> >

> > I have used several varieties of the Life choice meals which are

> > basically meat/chicken and a veggie or two in a sauce. If I cook

up an

> > ounce, dry, of Dreamfields and mix it with a dinner, I have two

lunches

> > from one box. OTOH, I don't like a big lunch. Yet, I found the

low

> > carb Lean Quisine and WW skimpy. I have had a couple of Dr.

Atkins's

> > meals, yuck. However, I do like those little pizzas for lunch.

> >

> > Laurel, does your daughter have time to do any cooking for you?

> >

> > Helen

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Hi Laurel,

Sounds like you are having a rough time. Here in NC we have a

program called Meals on Wheels. Everyday a meal is delivered to

anyone who can't prepare their own meals. You might check with

Social Services and see if a program similar to that is available in

your area.

Hope you get to feeling better........ I know how hard it can be when

your back is out and you are by yourself.......

Take care...

in NC

> Thanks, Helen. I'll try some of the Life Choice meals. What is

> Dreamfields?

>

> Two of my three daughters live close to me. One has a chronically

ill baby

> and my other daughter helps her along with working full time with a

child of

> her own. I try very hard not to accept her help. I did when I

couldn't

> move at all but now that I'm doing better I want to find ways to

manage by

> myself. I didn't let my daughters know how bad this was until I

was better.

> My not local daughter told me she'd hire home health help if it

happens

> again but I was really okay alone except for not being able to get

meals and

> don't want someone hanging out. I can move better now and could

cook to

> freeze but can't stand or sit so trying to figure ways to prepare

food at

> bedside so I can stock my freezer. My back gets worse any time I

try to

> even do something as simple as fix a sandwich or heat soup. I can

barely

> reach anything in the frig since I can't bend.

>

> Laurel

>

>

>

> >

> > I have used several varieties of the Life choice meals which are

> > basically meat/chicken and a veggie or two in a sauce. If I cook

up an

> > ounce, dry, of Dreamfields and mix it with a dinner, I have two

lunches

> > from one box. OTOH, I don't like a big lunch. Yet, I found the

low

> > carb Lean Quisine and WW skimpy. I have had a couple of Dr.

Atkins's

> > meals, yuck. However, I do like those little pizzas for lunch.

> >

> > Laurel, does your daughter have time to do any cooking for you?

> >

> > Helen

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Things are better since I can get off my bed without gasping most of the

time. :o) We do have meals on wheels and my mother received it before

going into assisted living. It never occured to me I could get it when I

was at my worst. I do plan to look into it so I know what to do if it gets

that bad again.

Laurel

> Sounds like you are having a rough time. Here in NC we have a

> program called Meals on Wheels. Everyday a meal is delivered to

> anyone who can't prepare their own meals. You might check with

> Social Services and see if a program similar to that is available in

> your area.

>

> Hope you get to feeling better........ I know how hard it can be when

> your back is out and you are by yourself.......

>

> Take care...

>

> in NC

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Things are better since I can get off my bed without gasping most of the

time. :o) We do have meals on wheels and my mother received it before

going into assisted living. It never occured to me I could get it when I

was at my worst. I do plan to look into it so I know what to do if it gets

that bad again.

Laurel

> Sounds like you are having a rough time. Here in NC we have a

> program called Meals on Wheels. Everyday a meal is delivered to

> anyone who can't prepare their own meals. You might check with

> Social Services and see if a program similar to that is available in

> your area.

>

> Hope you get to feeling better........ I know how hard it can be when

> your back is out and you are by yourself.......

>

> Take care...

>

> in NC

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Things are better since I can get off my bed without gasping most of the

time. :o) We do have meals on wheels and my mother received it before

going into assisted living. It never occured to me I could get it when I

was at my worst. I do plan to look into it so I know what to do if it gets

that bad again.

Laurel

> Sounds like you are having a rough time. Here in NC we have a

> program called Meals on Wheels. Everyday a meal is delivered to

> anyone who can't prepare their own meals. You might check with

> Social Services and see if a program similar to that is available in

> your area.

>

> Hope you get to feeling better........ I know how hard it can be when

> your back is out and you are by yourself.......

>

> Take care...

>

> in NC

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In a message dated 3/19/05 6:24:53 AM Eastern Standard Time, cappie@...

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>

>This food is usually prepared from surplus food from the Agriculture

>Dept of the government. It is worse than hospital food, & meant to keep

>poor people from starvation not control a diabetic's disease.

>>>>>>

Around here, meals on wheels gets most of its food donated from area

restaurants. There's often no rhyme or reason for what the meals consist of,

but they

generally contain protein, vegetable, and starch. The quality is quite high.

The major complaint is that there's no delivery on weekends. I guess it

depends on where you are.

Stacey

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In a message dated 3/19/05 6:24:53 AM Eastern Standard Time, cappie@...

writes:

>

>This food is usually prepared from surplus food from the Agriculture

>Dept of the government. It is worse than hospital food, & meant to keep

>poor people from starvation not control a diabetic's disease.

>>>>>>

Around here, meals on wheels gets most of its food donated from area

restaurants. There's often no rhyme or reason for what the meals consist of,

but they

generally contain protein, vegetable, and starch. The quality is quite high.

The major complaint is that there's no delivery on weekends. I guess it

depends on where you are.

Stacey

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in NC: have you ever seen or eaten a meal from " Meals on Wheels " ?

I have & I call them " carbs on wheels " . They are full of starchy,

overcooked, tasteless food that is absolutely terrible for a diabetic.

This food is usually prepared from surplus food from the Agriculture

Dept of the government. It is worse than hospital food, & meant to keep

poor people from starvation not control a diabetic's disease.

cappie

Greater Boston Area

T-2 10/02 1/05 A1c: 5.4 = 115 mean glu

50-100 carb diet, walking, Metformin

ALA/EPO, Coq10, B12, ALC, Vit C

Cal/mag, low dose Biotin, full spectrum E,

Chromium P, Policosanol, fish oil cap,

fresh flax seed, multi vitamin,

Lovastatin 20 mg, Enalapril 10 mg

3/05:140 lbs (highest weight 309),

5' tall /age 67,

cappie@...

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> in NC: have you ever seen or eaten a meal from " Meals on Wheels " ?

> I have & I call them " carbs on wheels " . They are full of starchy,

> overcooked, tasteless food that is absolutely terrible for a diabetic.

>

> This food is usually prepared from surplus food from the Agriculture

> Dept of the government. It is worse than hospital food, & meant to

keep poor people from starvation not control a diabetic's disease.

>

Hi Cappie

You live in a big country; so do I. You had a bad experience.

My local " meals on wheels " is an excellent service. It is not intended

so much for the poor as for those in exactly Laurel's circumstances -

those unable to cook for themselves.

Generally, most (but not all) of their customers are elderly. I have a

couple of friends who are volunteer deliverers.

You may be correct in Laurel's case - but by advising that all of

America's " meals on wheels " are the same, you may be causing someone

to deny themselves a valuable service.

It certainly wouldn't hurt for her to check them out as a trial - she

could always cancel if they are as you say. But even a carby meal can

be worthwhile if you have the discipline to scrape off the gravy and

throw the spuds in the bin, but eat the meat and greens.

It couldn't be much worse than her present diet.

Cheers Alan, T2, Australia.

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> in NC: have you ever seen or eaten a meal from " Meals on Wheels " ?

> I have & I call them " carbs on wheels " . They are full of starchy,

> overcooked, tasteless food that is absolutely terrible for a diabetic.

>

> This food is usually prepared from surplus food from the Agriculture

> Dept of the government. It is worse than hospital food, & meant to

keep poor people from starvation not control a diabetic's disease.

>

Hi Cappie

You live in a big country; so do I. You had a bad experience.

My local " meals on wheels " is an excellent service. It is not intended

so much for the poor as for those in exactly Laurel's circumstances -

those unable to cook for themselves.

Generally, most (but not all) of their customers are elderly. I have a

couple of friends who are volunteer deliverers.

You may be correct in Laurel's case - but by advising that all of

America's " meals on wheels " are the same, you may be causing someone

to deny themselves a valuable service.

It certainly wouldn't hurt for her to check them out as a trial - she

could always cancel if they are as you say. But even a carby meal can

be worthwhile if you have the discipline to scrape off the gravy and

throw the spuds in the bin, but eat the meat and greens.

It couldn't be much worse than her present diet.

Cheers Alan, T2, Australia.

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> in NC: have you ever seen or eaten a meal from " Meals on Wheels " ?

> I have & I call them " carbs on wheels " . They are full of starchy,

> overcooked, tasteless food that is absolutely terrible for a diabetic.

>

> This food is usually prepared from surplus food from the Agriculture

> Dept of the government. It is worse than hospital food, & meant to

keep poor people from starvation not control a diabetic's disease.

>

Hi Cappie

You live in a big country; so do I. You had a bad experience.

My local " meals on wheels " is an excellent service. It is not intended

so much for the poor as for those in exactly Laurel's circumstances -

those unable to cook for themselves.

Generally, most (but not all) of their customers are elderly. I have a

couple of friends who are volunteer deliverers.

You may be correct in Laurel's case - but by advising that all of

America's " meals on wheels " are the same, you may be causing someone

to deny themselves a valuable service.

It certainly wouldn't hurt for her to check them out as a trial - she

could always cancel if they are as you say. But even a carby meal can

be worthwhile if you have the discipline to scrape off the gravy and

throw the spuds in the bin, but eat the meat and greens.

It couldn't be much worse than her present diet.

Cheers Alan, T2, Australia.

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Everything in Moderation - Except Laughter.

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Alan: In this country the service is under the Dept of Agriculture, the

foods are basically the same everywhere because the bottom line is what

matters to the government.

I live in an elderly housing complex which uses this service all the

time & use the local elder ctr which also serves this food. The food is

not any different here in this city than it was where I received it. In

fact we had one woman who was using this service & was a diabetic who

was completely out of control & her visiting nurse told her NOT to eat

the meals anymore. They arranged for her to receive the diabetic

version of the meals & the nurse was horrified at what they contained.

This old woman is now in a nursing home & probably eating just as

badly there unfortunately.

Perhaps in your country things are different but unfortunately this is

how it is here,

cappie

Greater Boston Area

T-2 10/02 1/05 A1c: 5.4 = 115 mean glu

50-100 carb diet, walking, Metformin

ALA/EPO, Coq10, B12, ALC, Vit C

Cal/mag, low dose Biotin, full spectrum E,

Chromium P, Policosanol, fish oil cap,

fresh flax seed, multi vitamin,

Lovastatin 20 mg, Enalapril 10 mg

3/05:140 lbs (highest weight 309),

5' tall /age 67,

cappie@...

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> Perhaps in your country things are different but unfortunately

> this is how it is here,

>

Fair enough. I won't start any international flames on it:-)

Cheers, Alan

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> Perhaps in your country things are different but unfortunately

> this is how it is here,

>

Fair enough. I won't start any international flames on it:-)

Cheers, Alan

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An elderly friend of mine got Meals on Wheels after her hip replacement. She

does not have diabetes. But she too complained that the meals were starchy

and full of fat.

It makes sense, as mashed potatoes are a " comfort food " and it's a lot

cheaper to provide a bit of meat, a lot of mashed potatoes and frozen peas,

and a piece of cake than it is to provide more meat, fresh greens, and

fruit.

The " town suppers " often put on around here as fund raisers are the same.

Starchy and buttery.

Gretchen

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An elderly friend of mine got Meals on Wheels after her hip replacement. She

does not have diabetes. But she too complained that the meals were starchy

and full of fat.

It makes sense, as mashed potatoes are a " comfort food " and it's a lot

cheaper to provide a bit of meat, a lot of mashed potatoes and frozen peas,

and a piece of cake than it is to provide more meat, fresh greens, and

fruit.

The " town suppers " often put on around here as fund raisers are the same.

Starchy and buttery.

Gretchen

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