Re: old diets

[Guest guest]

Okay, I will jump in. How many remember the old Grey

sheet in Overeaters Anonymous or the Orange sheet or

the blue sheet. 12 years well spent. I learned to

cope with a lot but also learned how to have *fat

serenity* and could not keep my weight off.

I still love the 12 step program and use many tools

and steps daily. But, without this surgery I never

could have kept on. I do not attend meetings but love

the ideas.

Rita

__________________________________________________

[Guest guest]

I've been wracking my brain trying to remember the name of that first diet

soda that came out in the fifties I think it was. It was vile....but I

remember drinking it like crazy because it was fizzy...and didn't have

calories in it.

My mom took me to my first diet doctor at age 10. I started my own

starvation type diet at age 8, and mother said she was so proud of me...I

can't even imagine. I've seen pictures of me at age 8, and I wasn't even

fat!! Mother was fat, but was projecting herself on me. By age 10, I was fat

from my attempts at dieting early on. I got into the heavy diet drugs at age

12....and was given speed by my doctor through my pregnancy when I was 17

years old to keep from gaining weight in pregnancy!! I gained about 12 lbs.

It's amazing the baby was normal. I was really addicted to amphetimines

getting to the point that I needed to take them just to feel normal. That

was scary!! And in the days before " drug rehab " or doctors even taking note

of such things. I kicked that habit on my own...and was sick for a long,

long time. I was so tired all the time I could barely lift my head off the

pillow. I still dieted though..as if my life depended on it. I used to look

at people heavier than me...and say to myself...there but for a thousand

diets goes I! But now I know in retrospect that in a few years..there

because of a thousand diets would go I!! I guess we have all lined a lot of

doctors wallets and also the diet industry. I'm glad we have finally found

an answer for all these years of abuse. It's just all so sad.

Regards~

Jacque

> My father was a wholesale soda distributer and we had diet soda when it

> first came out...and I do remember sucryl too !!!! I still prefer the taste

> of sacharine (like sweet & low) to the newer Equal products...just doesn't

> taste the same !!

>

[Guest guest]

I've been wracking my brain trying to remember the name of that first diet

soda that came out in the fifties I think it was. It was vile....but I

remember drinking it like crazy because it was fizzy...and didn't have

calories in it.

My mom took me to my first diet doctor at age 10. I started my own

starvation type diet at age 8, and mother said she was so proud of me...I

can't even imagine. I've seen pictures of me at age 8, and I wasn't even

fat!! Mother was fat, but was projecting herself on me. By age 10, I was fat

from my attempts at dieting early on. I got into the heavy diet drugs at age

12....and was given speed by my doctor through my pregnancy when I was 17

years old to keep from gaining weight in pregnancy!! I gained about 12 lbs.

It's amazing the baby was normal. I was really addicted to amphetimines

getting to the point that I needed to take them just to feel normal. That

was scary!! And in the days before " drug rehab " or doctors even taking note

of such things. I kicked that habit on my own...and was sick for a long,

long time. I was so tired all the time I could barely lift my head off the

pillow. I still dieted though..as if my life depended on it. I used to look

at people heavier than me...and say to myself...there but for a thousand

diets goes I! But now I know in retrospect that in a few years..there

because of a thousand diets would go I!! I guess we have all lined a lot of

doctors wallets and also the diet industry. I'm glad we have finally found

an answer for all these years of abuse. It's just all so sad.

Regards~

Jacque

> My father was a wholesale soda distributer and we had diet soda when it

> first came out...and I do remember sucryl too !!!! I still prefer the taste

> of sacharine (like sweet & low) to the newer Equal products...just doesn't

> taste the same !!

>

[Guest guest]

I've been wracking my brain trying to remember the name of that first diet

soda that came out in the fifties I think it was. It was vile....but I

remember drinking it like crazy because it was fizzy...and didn't have

calories in it.

My mom took me to my first diet doctor at age 10. I started my own

starvation type diet at age 8, and mother said she was so proud of me...I

can't even imagine. I've seen pictures of me at age 8, and I wasn't even

fat!! Mother was fat, but was projecting herself on me. By age 10, I was fat

from my attempts at dieting early on. I got into the heavy diet drugs at age

12....and was given speed by my doctor through my pregnancy when I was 17

years old to keep from gaining weight in pregnancy!! I gained about 12 lbs.

It's amazing the baby was normal. I was really addicted to amphetimines

getting to the point that I needed to take them just to feel normal. That

was scary!! And in the days before " drug rehab " or doctors even taking note

of such things. I kicked that habit on my own...and was sick for a long,

long time. I was so tired all the time I could barely lift my head off the

pillow. I still dieted though..as if my life depended on it. I used to look

at people heavier than me...and say to myself...there but for a thousand

diets goes I! But now I know in retrospect that in a few years..there

because of a thousand diets would go I!! I guess we have all lined a lot of

doctors wallets and also the diet industry. I'm glad we have finally found

an answer for all these years of abuse. It's just all so sad.

Regards~

Jacque

> My father was a wholesale soda distributer and we had diet soda when it

> first came out...and I do remember sucryl too !!!! I still prefer the taste

> of sacharine (like sweet & low) to the newer Equal products...just doesn't

> taste the same !!

>

[Guest guest]

I remember Weight Watchers being so shame based too. I remember re-joining

for the umpteenth time...and the " leader " looking at my weight at about 190

something..and saying.. " Oh WHY do we do these things to ourselves?? " I just

wanted to have the earth open up and swallow me at that point. I had been

such a bad, bad girl!!

Regards~

Jacque

[Guest guest]

I remember Weight Watchers being so shame based too. I remember re-joining

for the umpteenth time...and the " leader " looking at my weight at about 190

something..and saying.. " Oh WHY do we do these things to ourselves?? " I just

wanted to have the earth open up and swallow me at that point. I had been

such a bad, bad girl!!

Regards~

Jacque

[Guest guest]

That is so true .I was a lifge time weight watcher I got to goal in 1969 ha

that didn't last long..I also did nutri system 2x's gained that all back

and took " Great " diet pills all my life and was still fat.I spent more of

my life FAT then thin.I am going to have to live to be an old lady to be

thinner more than I was fat and I am all ready old(58),but thin

)))))))))))) Pam MacVittie

1999-279

2001-121

-158

At 06:32 AM 12/19/2001 -0500, hwd112 wrote:

>My first diet was total fasting for two weeks. It makes me sad to

>remember it.

>It must have been around 1968/69. My uncle was a big diet doctor on Long

>Island. He believe that it was healthier for obese people to loose the weight

>quickly than stay fat. But I was only 15 and about 40 pounds

>overweight. I ate

>nothing for two weeks but too various pills (uppers, mostly) and spent two

>weeks

>high. That was before nutritional supplements. I lost 25 pounds. I remember

>the first day back on food - I had my first huge binge, eating potato chips,

>cake, anything I could stuff down, and got really sick. I think I gained back

>the weight immediately, and then some. That was the beginning of the

>yo-yo life

>that eventually brought me up to 350 lbs. Plus, I was then stealing diet

>pills

>from my mother's drawer, and continued to take them on and off for years. My

>uncle became rich as women came from all over to be treated by him. The whole

>thing makes me angry to think about.

>

>Helene

>RNY 12/22/99

>350/160

>

>

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[Guest guest]

HEY! Does anyone remember an " exercise " place called Gloria Marshell (or

Something or other.... can't remember the last name) during the mid to late

70's? They used to put you on one of those machines that JIGGLED you with a

belt... and then there was a table that did different things..... LOL

Instruments of torture!!! PLUS you were supposed to follow their diet! I

paid MEGA bucks to try that and NOTHING happened. They said they could

Sculpt your body. ROTFL.......

Debbie in Gig Harbor

Dr. Weber for Original RNY (1/22/1999)

and Revision (2/16/2001)transected stomach

starting weight 320

lowest weight 200

current weight 213 (down from 267before revision)

original by-pass 70cm

revision to 170cm

[Guest guest]

In a message dated 12/19/01 7:35:44 PM US Eastern Standard Time,

vitalady@... writes:

> OH YES! Eileen Feather &

OK, now I'm into this.

I went to a similar place in California in the 1980 called " Venus de Milo. "

No kidding.

The first day I was there the sweet young thing who was showing me around

said something like " And we can guarantee that, if you follow our program,

you will lose 20 pounds in three weeks. " I wittily said to her " What are you

gonna do, cut off my arms? " Whereupon she said, deadly serious, in a

horrified voice " Oh, no! We don't cut off ANYBODY's arms! "

I am not making this up.

hugs,

Ann

[Guest guest]

How about Tab? Yuuuuuuuuuuck. I rather like Diet Rite, esp as opposed to

NO carbonation at all. LOL!

My mom & g-ma were death on sugar, but I didn't care, since I only wanted

things butter would melt on. They had candy hidden everywhere. Go to pull

out a clean towel & unleash an avalanche of stash. Sigh. Put them all away,

pretend I never saw 'em, but I forgot anyway. I didn't graze and rarely had

those things. Sugar items did not interest me at all until 2 yrs post-op.

It's odd that as much as my female relatives fought ( & lost ) the battle

with sugar, THEY became diabetic, but stayed under 200#. My main form of

sugar was milk, but I never quite got diabetes & I was the only one to reach

Morbid status.

Thanks,

www.vitalady.com

Re: Re: old diets

> Gads, a depressing walk down memory lane... diet rite soda was THE drink,

> talk about seeds of sugar fear. That's probably a good thing tho.

>

> hugzzz

> flo

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

How about Tab? Yuuuuuuuuuuck. I rather like Diet Rite, esp as opposed to

NO carbonation at all. LOL!

My mom & g-ma were death on sugar, but I didn't care, since I only wanted

things butter would melt on. They had candy hidden everywhere. Go to pull

out a clean towel & unleash an avalanche of stash. Sigh. Put them all away,

pretend I never saw 'em, but I forgot anyway. I didn't graze and rarely had

those things. Sugar items did not interest me at all until 2 yrs post-op.

It's odd that as much as my female relatives fought ( & lost ) the battle

with sugar, THEY became diabetic, but stayed under 200#. My main form of

sugar was milk, but I never quite got diabetes & I was the only one to reach

Morbid status.

Thanks,

www.vitalady.com

Re: Re: old diets

> Gads, a depressing walk down memory lane... diet rite soda was THE drink,

> talk about seeds of sugar fear. That's probably a good thing tho.

>

> hugzzz

> flo

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

In San Diego it wasn't Eileen anything... I distinctly remember Gloria

something or other. They did get bought out, but I can't remember by who.

LOL I have CRS syndrome so bad.........

Debbie in Gig Harbor

Dr. Weber for Original RNY (1/22/1999)

and Revision (2/16/2001)transected stomach

starting weight 320

lowest weight 200

current weight 213 (down from 267before revision)

original by-pass 70cm

revision to 170cm

[Guest guest]

In San Diego it wasn't Eileen anything... I distinctly remember Gloria

something or other. They did get bought out, but I can't remember by who.

LOL I have CRS syndrome so bad.........

Debbie in Gig Harbor

Dr. Weber for Original RNY (1/22/1999)

and Revision (2/16/2001)transected stomach

starting weight 320

lowest weight 200

current weight 213 (down from 267before revision)

original by-pass 70cm

revision to 170cm

[Guest guest]

You are both right...Eileen Feather AND Gloria Marshall...are you ringing my

chimes..haha!! I didn't go to either...but do remember their ads and being

extremely curious. Jack LaLanne had his Gyms back then too...I remember

watching my mom get beat up by those silly machines...and could never figure

out how they would break loose fat...and if they did..where it would go

afterwards. Yuck!

Regards~

Jacque

> In San Diego it wasn't Eileen anything... I distinctly remember Gloria

> something or other. They did get bought out, but I can't remember by who.

> LOL I have CRS syndrome so bad.........

>

[Guest guest]

OH YES! Eileen Feather & it was bought out by Golden Venus. I can't believe

I did that in the 70's. I didn't have the gas money OR the bridge toll for

the bridge and still, I WENT.

The sweat things they had? Plastic balloons that they wrapped around your

thigh or middle or arm and then you moved around for awhile and sweat off a

few inches. It was great, til you showered, of course and rehydrated. What a

gimmick.

And yeah, those rolling barrels, they were supposed to break down the fat so

when you exercised, the fat fell right off.

And someone stole my CUTEST sandals out of the dressing room!

Thanks,

www.vitalady.com

Re: old diets

> LOL, I remember going there with my MOM and I thought it was the dumbest

> thing I ever watched . . .there was also a barrel made of nobby wooden

dowels

> that went around at different speeds beating whatever part of your body

you

> put by it! I remember thinking it was awful to get older and put yourself

> through such stuff! I think the place was called Eileen Feathers Figure

> Salon! The same family that later brought us the Cambridge diet.

> ) Vicki

>

> In a message dated 12/19/2001 3:30:06 PM Pacific Standard Time,

> ldybostons@... writes:

>

> > HEY! Does anyone remember an " exercise " place called Gloria Marshall (or

> > Something or other.... can't remember the last name) during the mid to

late

> > 70's? They used to put you on one of those machines that JIGGLED you

with a

> > belt... and then there was a table that did different things..... LOL

> > Instruments of torture!!! PLUS you were supposed to follow their diet!

I

> > paid MEGA bucks to try that and NOTHING happened. They said they could

> > Sculpt your body. ROTFL.......

> >

> > Debbie in Gig Harbor

>

> Homepage: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Graduate-OSSG

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> Unsubscribe: mailto:Graduate-OSSG-unsubscribe

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[Guest guest]

OH YES! Eileen Feather & it was bought out by Golden Venus. I can't believe

I did that in the 70's. I didn't have the gas money OR the bridge toll for

the bridge and still, I WENT.

The sweat things they had? Plastic balloons that they wrapped around your

thigh or middle or arm and then you moved around for awhile and sweat off a

few inches. It was great, til you showered, of course and rehydrated. What a

gimmick.

And yeah, those rolling barrels, they were supposed to break down the fat so

when you exercised, the fat fell right off.

And someone stole my CUTEST sandals out of the dressing room!

Thanks,

www.vitalady.com

Re: old diets

> LOL, I remember going there with my MOM and I thought it was the dumbest

> thing I ever watched . . .there was also a barrel made of nobby wooden

dowels

> that went around at different speeds beating whatever part of your body

you

> put by it! I remember thinking it was awful to get older and put yourself

> through such stuff! I think the place was called Eileen Feathers Figure

> Salon! The same family that later brought us the Cambridge diet.

> ) Vicki

>

> In a message dated 12/19/2001 3:30:06 PM Pacific Standard Time,

> ldybostons@... writes:

>

> > HEY! Does anyone remember an " exercise " place called Gloria Marshall (or

> > Something or other.... can't remember the last name) during the mid to

late

> > 70's? They used to put you on one of those machines that JIGGLED you

with a

> > belt... and then there was a table that did different things..... LOL

> > Instruments of torture!!! PLUS you were supposed to follow their diet!

I

> > paid MEGA bucks to try that and NOTHING happened. They said they could

> > Sculpt your body. ROTFL.......

> >

> > Debbie in Gig Harbor

>

> Homepage: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Graduate-OSSG

>

> Unsubscribe: mailto:Graduate-OSSG-unsubscribe

>

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

I remember those .My friend and I would go do that then go out and have a

hot fudge sundae.LOL.Pam MacVittie

1999-279

2001-121

-158

At 03:28 PM 12/19/2001 -0800, Debbie McNeice wrote:

>HEY! Does anyone remember an " exercise " place called Gloria Marshell (or

>Something or other.... can't remember the last name) during the mid to late

>70's? They used to put you on one of those machines that JIGGLED you with a

>belt... and then there was a table that did different things..... LOL

>Instruments of torture!!! PLUS you were supposed to follow their diet! I

>paid MEGA bucks to try that and NOTHING happened. They said they could

>Sculpt your body. ROTFL.......

>

>Debbie in Gig Harbor

>Dr. Weber for Original RNY (1/22/1999)

>and Revision (2/16/2001)transected stomach

>starting weight 320

>lowest weight 200

>current weight 213 (down from 267before revision)

>original by-pass 70cm

>revision to 170cm

>

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>Homepage: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Graduate-OSSG

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[Guest guest]

I remember those .My friend and I would go do that then go out and have a

hot fudge sundae.LOL.Pam MacVittie

1999-279

2001-121

-158

At 03:28 PM 12/19/2001 -0800, Debbie McNeice wrote:

>HEY! Does anyone remember an " exercise " place called Gloria Marshell (or

>Something or other.... can't remember the last name) during the mid to late

>70's? They used to put you on one of those machines that JIGGLED you with a

>belt... and then there was a table that did different things..... LOL

>Instruments of torture!!! PLUS you were supposed to follow their diet! I

>paid MEGA bucks to try that and NOTHING happened. They said they could

>Sculpt your body. ROTFL.......

>

>Debbie in Gig Harbor

>Dr. Weber for Original RNY (1/22/1999)

>and Revision (2/16/2001)transected stomach

>starting weight 320

>lowest weight 200

>current weight 213 (down from 267before revision)

>original by-pass 70cm

>revision to 170cm

>

>

>

>

>

>

>Homepage: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Graduate-OSSG

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[Guest guest]

I have to agree with this happening in my own life also. After many many years

of dieting up to 373 lbs, I stopped dieting, accepted that I would always be fat

and just ate what I wanted, when I wanted...and remained at or near that weight

for years, until deciding on the gastric bypass. I didn't lose by eating when I

wanted, but I didn't gain either.

Chrissie

shihtzumom@...

http://users.snip.net/~shihtzumom

My WLS Journey: http://www.fastway.to/chrissieswls/

or http://millennium.fortunecity.com/doddington/691/WLS/this_is_me.htm

----- Original Message ----- From: shrinkin2000

To: Graduate-OSSG ...snip... After years of the grapefruit &

eggs, the salads, the pills,

I decided to be a happy fat chick and eat whatever I wanted. I

actually hung in at about 300 lbs for many years and was a healthy

(making my doctors mad) fat person. ...snip...

[Guest guest]

The first " diet " I can remember being on was pure speed. It was

prescribed to me at the ripe ole age of 10.

I remember taking one that the first morning, and going to school

STONED!! My eyes looked like platters. Those of you here who have met

me should know that I talk a mile a minute...typical East Coaster.

Well, that day I was ZOOOMIN!

Mom took one look at me when I got home and dumped them down the toilet.

Darn..they were fun! hehe

The other drastic thing that they did to me was put me in a " hospital "

for 3 months. I had to finish 8th grade there...no graduation for me.

They did nothing to teach us how to eat..just fed us. LOTS of lamb

chops for some ungodly reason. It was in Philadelphia, and there was a

rough bunch of kids there. I was knocked out with a vase, and chased

with a broken bottle.

They were very naive there. They controlled your food, but there was an

open coffee pot with sugar next to it, a milk machine, and a baby food

cabinet with no lock (you know you are desperate when you're excited

sneaking baby food!). Oh..and the snack cabinet was locked, but you

cold pull it out and stick your hand in and snitch cookies.

I did lose 40 lbs, but gained it all back as soon as I was paroled...er

released.

Blessings,

Lou

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

I am in shape. Round's a shape...

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

2 Years, 3 months Post Op ~ Loss: 322 Pounds!

Starting Wt.: 530

Current Wt.: 208

http://www.ptl4wls.com

" I have heard your prayer, I have seen your tears. Surely..I will heal

you. " 2 Kings 20:5

[Guest guest]

The first " diet " I can remember being on was pure speed. It was

prescribed to me at the ripe ole age of 10.

I remember taking one that the first morning, and going to school

STONED!! My eyes looked like platters. Those of you here who have met

me should know that I talk a mile a minute...typical East Coaster.

Well, that day I was ZOOOMIN!

Mom took one look at me when I got home and dumped them down the toilet.

Darn..they were fun! hehe

The other drastic thing that they did to me was put me in a " hospital "

for 3 months. I had to finish 8th grade there...no graduation for me.

They did nothing to teach us how to eat..just fed us. LOTS of lamb

chops for some ungodly reason. It was in Philadelphia, and there was a

rough bunch of kids there. I was knocked out with a vase, and chased

with a broken bottle.

They were very naive there. They controlled your food, but there was an

open coffee pot with sugar next to it, a milk machine, and a baby food

cabinet with no lock (you know you are desperate when you're excited

sneaking baby food!). Oh..and the snack cabinet was locked, but you

cold pull it out and stick your hand in and snitch cookies.

I did lose 40 lbs, but gained it all back as soon as I was paroled...er

released.

Blessings,

Lou

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

I am in shape. Round's a shape...

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

2 Years, 3 months Post Op ~ Loss: 322 Pounds!

Starting Wt.: 530

Current Wt.: 208

http://www.ptl4wls.com

" I have heard your prayer, I have seen your tears. Surely..I will heal

you. " 2 Kings 20:5

[Guest guest]

Remember the pig face mask from TOPS that you had to wear at the meetings if you

had gained weight?

----- Original Message ----- From: Rita Weisburgh

...snip...How many remember the old Grey sheet in Overeaters Anonymous or the

Orange sheet or the blue sheet. ...snip...

[Guest guest]

Don't remember the name, but I do remember going to a place with those

machines...and the one with the little rolling pin thingies that you laid over

and it rolled around..for your abs, I guess. And the puny little model-type

aerobics instructors in the tight little exercise suits that made you want to

die because there was no way you could keep up. Death was preferable to the

lack of oxygen from trying to do the things she expected. But, if you didn't do

it, you were totally embarassed and out of place for NOT doing it. And if you

stopped going, you were a total failure at life, so you kept going until you

just didn't care anymore, and accepted that you WERE a failure.....one more

time.

Chrissie

RE: old diets

HEY! Does anyone remember an " exercise " place called Gloria Marshell (or

Something or other.... can't remember the last name) during the mid to late

70's? They used to put you on one of those machines that JIGGLED you with a

belt... and then there was a table that did different things..... LOL

Instruments of torture!!! PLUS you were supposed to follow their diet! I

paid MEGA bucks to try that and NOTHING happened. They said they could

Sculpt your body. ROTFL.......

Debbie in Gig Harbor

Dr. Weber for Original RNY (1/22/1999)

and Revision (2/16/2001)transected stomach

starting weight 320

lowest weight 200

current weight 213 (down from 267before revision)

original by-pass 70cm

revision to 170cm

Homepage: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Graduate-OSSG

Unsubscribe: mailto:Graduate-OSSG-unsubscribe

[Guest guest]

The TOPS I belonged to in Japan (on base) didn't have a pig mask, but we had

a little piggy figurine we had to take home for the week and bring back with

us!

Debbie in Gig Harbor

Dr. Weber for Original RNY (1/22/1999)

and Revision (2/16/2001)transected stomach

starting weight 320

lowest weight 200

current weight 213 (down from 267before revision)

original by-pass 70cm

revision to 170cm

[Guest guest]

What a trip down memory lane this is! More like a nightmare! HEHEHE

Debbie in Gig Harbor

Dr. Weber for Original RNY (1/22/1999)

and Revision (2/16/2001)transected stomach

starting weight 320

lowest weight 200

current weight 213 (down from 267before revision)

original by-pass 70cm

revision to 170cm