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Hmmm, good topic Alice & Jan, let's see:

Cambridge Diet, Liquid Protien (GAG is right!), Optifast (with that

horrible liquid potassium-ugh!), giant tablets (don't remember the

name-from Joe Weider maybe), Atkins, grapefruit, Pritikin, Sugar

Busters, Metrecal (I'm showing my age now!), Ayds (snuck them out of

my sister's drawer for candy),slim-fast, weight watchers, apple cider

vinegar, See's candy (ok I made that one up).....I'm sure there's

more but I can't remember-probably from brain damage caused by

excessive dieting!

Lori

fp/pann 291 to 140 lbs

> ......we should start a link on all the diets we have tried for

fun.... how

> about the " Cambridge Diet " ... the liquid and the " bars " .... Jan C.

3-11-98

> RNY

>

>

> Okay, I like this idea! My first diet was Ayds candies. My

subsequent

> " fun " diets included the grapefruit and egg diet, the cabbage soup

diet, and

> many more. How many of us went on the " liquid protein " diet that

was

> popular in the late 70's? Remember? A tablespoon or so of collagen

> protein - gaacked down, holding my breath, running away from myself

to

> escape the taste and smell, and nothing else AT ALL except no

calorie

> beverages. Don't ever tell me that I have no will power. I did

that one

> until I took off 40 pounds and kept dropping things, eventually

getting weak

> and dizzy.....

>

> So, what other " smart " things did you all do?

>

> Alice in NY

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In a message dated 12/19/01 6:34:05 AM Eastern Standard Time,

hwd.hwd@... writes:

> The whole

> thing makes me angry to think about.

>

I do not blame you for being angry. I know I am. I feel quite defrauded by

the entire diet industry (from the doc who gave a 12 year old diet pills to

the whole Weight Watchers scam -- how come they have no statistics???). I

work in a very regulated industry (education). We're self-regulated,

resulted by the states, and regulated by the feds. Between all three, we

have like a zillion consumer protection clauses. I cannot really understand

how the diet industry has no such regulation -- you can claim anything! No

matter the consequences. My discouragement with this is part of the reason

it took me so long to try surgery -- I was really convinced this was yet

another scam! It took me a long while to accept that it worked and a longer

time to have the courage to believe it just might work for me.

se

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In high school, when I was SOOOOOOOO fat at 130, my mom bribed me to lose

15#. So, I ate once/day. Cheese, lettuce on Hollywood bread? One glass of

milk or grape juice. For a month. It worked. Lost the 15'#, got my reward

and was forever launched on my cycle of starve and regain.

Did it again when I was 19, dropped 35# that time, got down to 119. Held off

almost a year.

Did it again when I was 27, again 35# that time, but only down to 135. Held

off almost 3 yrs. Good thing I had no labs during this time.

Did it again at 31, 60# this time (low of 125, but sick), got sick in there,

but held it off for 7 yrs more or less. Started with 6 meals/week, ended

with 5 meals/week and I use the term loosely. Pile of salad with a sprinkle

of cheese for protein & 2 croutons to make the protein complete. Yeah. SO

nutritionally sophisticated. LOL! But milk, always milk and coke. Sugar

was not the culprit in trend at the time. Fats were just coming into fashion

as the enemy. I was already using skim milk, so what'd I have to worry

about? ROTF! I can see your eyes bugging out, checking the incoming to be

sure it's ME saying this stuff.

Then the last time, NOTHING I did would make it go away. I could not stop

the onslaught when the regain began, either. Then I quit smoking and it

picked up speed. I constantly hurt myself from bumping into things that I

could slide by " yesterday " . Gained 70# in 9 months. Wow. I was lucky my

skin got out of the way!

Thanks,

www.vitalady.com

old diets

> ......we should start a link on all the diets we have tried for fun....

how

> about the " Cambridge Diet " ... the liquid and the " bars " .... Jan C. 3-11-98

> RNY

>

>

> Okay, I like this idea! My first diet was Ayds candies. My subsequent

> " fun " diets included the grapefruit and egg diet, the cabbage soup diet,

and

> many more. How many of us went on the " liquid protein " diet that was

> popular in the late 70's? Remember? A tablespoon or so of collagen

> protein - gaacked down, holding my breath, running away from myself to

> escape the taste and smell, and nothing else AT ALL except no calorie

> beverages. Don't ever tell me that I have no will power. I did that one

> until I took off 40 pounds and kept dropping things, eventually getting

weak

> and dizzy.....

>

> So, what other " smart " things did you all do?

>

> Alice in NY

>

>

> Homepage: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Graduate-OSSG

>

> Unsubscribe: mailto:Graduate-OSSG-unsubscribe

>

>

>

>

>

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OMG! Metrical! LOL! Then my whole diet history was a lie, cuz I LIKED

this stuff and my mom & grandma didn't stop me, but didn't make me take it,

either.

Ahhhhh, the seeds of being a chocolate " protein " lover were sewn early. And

fear of sugar was sewn early, but not label reading. I guess I should check

out some " diet " museum some day and check the sugar g in Ayds & Metrical,

huh? Wait. They weren't listed. LOL! My family used Sucaryl--the glass

bottle with the " drop " shaped top? I think it's still out there.

Thanks,

www.vitalady.com

Re: old diets

> Hmmm, good topic Alice & Jan, let's see:

> Cambridge Diet, Liquid Protien (GAG is right!), Optifast (with that

> horrible liquid potassium-ugh!), giant tablets (don't remember the

> name-from Joe Weider maybe), Atkins, grapefruit, Pritikin, Sugar

> Busters, Metrecal (I'm showing my age now!), Ayds (snuck them out of

> my sister's drawer for candy),slim-fast, weight watchers, apple cider

> vinegar, See's candy (ok I made that one up).....I'm sure there's

> more but I can't remember-probably from brain damage caused by

> excessive dieting!

>

> Lori

> fp/pann 291 to 140 lbs

>

>

> > ......we should start a link on all the diets we have tried for

> fun.... how

> > about the " Cambridge Diet " ... the liquid and the " bars " .... Jan C.

> 3-11-98

> > RNY

> >

> >

> > Okay, I like this idea! My first diet was Ayds candies. My

> subsequent

> > " fun " diets included the grapefruit and egg diet, the cabbage soup

> diet, and

> > many more. How many of us went on the " liquid protein " diet that

> was

> > popular in the late 70's? Remember? A tablespoon or so of collagen

> > protein - gaacked down, holding my breath, running away from myself

> to

> > escape the taste and smell, and nothing else AT ALL except no

> calorie

> > beverages. Don't ever tell me that I have no will power. I did

> that one

> > until I took off 40 pounds and kept dropping things, eventually

> getting weak

> > and dizzy.....

> >

> > So, what other " smart " things did you all do?

> >

> > Alice in NY

>

>

> Homepage: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Graduate-OSSG

>

> Unsubscribe: mailto:Graduate-OSSG-unsubscribe

>

>

>

>

>

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My first diet was total fasting for two weeks. It makes me sad to remember it.

It must have been around 1968/69. My uncle was a big diet doctor on Long

Island. He believe that it was healthier for obese people to loose the weight

quickly than stay fat. But I was only 15 and about 40 pounds overweight. I ate

nothing for two weeks but too various pills (uppers, mostly) and spent two weeks

high. That was before nutritional supplements. I lost 25 pounds. I remember

the first day back on food - I had my first huge binge, eating potato chips,

cake, anything I could stuff down, and got really sick. I think I gained back

the weight immediately, and then some. That was the beginning of the yo-yo life

that eventually brought me up to 350 lbs. Plus, I was then stealing diet pills

from my mother's drawer, and continued to take them on and off for years. My

uncle became rich as women came from all over to be treated by him. The whole

thing makes me angry to think about.

Helene

RNY 12/22/99

350/160

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Beverly Hills and Scarsdale, Atkins, Doctors Quick Weight Loss Clinic,

NUtraSystem, Craig, Lindora, yes Optifast . . .My own favorite the 8

diet . . .I ate 8 bites of 8 different foods everyday . ..then I lost count

and 8 everything in sight!

:o) Vicki

In a message dated 12/18/2001 10:21:36 PM Pacific Standard Time,

Loreli@... writes:

> Hmmm, good topic Alice & Jan, let's see:

> Cambridge Diet, Liquid Protien (GAG is right!), Optifast (with that

> horrible liquid potassium-ugh!), giant tablets (don't remember the

> name-from Joe Weider maybe), Atkins, grapefruit, Pritikin, Sugar

> Busters, Metrecal (I'm showing my age now!), Ayds (snuck them out of

> my sister's drawer for candy),slim-fast, weight watchers, apple cider

> vinegar, See's candy (ok I made that one up).....I'm sure there's

> more but I can't remember-probably from brain damage caused by

> excessive dieting!

>

> Lori

> fp/pann 291 to 140 lbs

>

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You hit it on the head, when I quit smoking I had taken a sedentary job for

the first time when nothing moved but the pencil I pushed and I began smoking

like a chimney so I quit and Lord, the weight just piled on and the REAL

struggle began, I jumped to 260, each time I'd loose I'd regain like a

freight train and add an extra 50 lbs.

In high school I was " FAT " at 165lbs at 5'8 " tall... well, compared to

Twiggie yeah. Society is moronic sometimes. There was NO ONE to tell me

just how beautiful I was

hugzzz

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Gads, a depressing walk down memory lane... diet rite soda was THE drink,

talk about seeds of sugar fear. That's probably a good thing tho.

hugzzz

flo

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Hey I forgot about Phen-Phen, lean cuisine, & TOPS !! there are probably others

too... amazing what we did to ourselves over the years... I started with the

diet doc & uppers when I was like 12 years old !!! It definitly started me on a

lifetime of diet struggles....

My father was a wholesale soda distributer and we had diet soda when it first

came out...and I do remember sucryl too !!!! I still prefer the taste of

sacharine (like sweet & low) to the newer Equal products...just doesn't taste

the same !!

Bonnie

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In a message dated 12/19/2001 3:33:14 AM Pacific Standard Time,

hwd.hwd@... writes:

> My

> uncle became rich as women came from all over to be treated by him. The

> whole

> thing makes me angry to think about.

>

I'm sorry, I just posted some doc bashing of those suckers in the 70's over

those dang diet pills. I hadnt read your post or I'd have been more gentle.

Those dang pills were very dangerous. I'm very angry too.

hugzzz

flo

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> So, what other " smart " things did you all do?

>

my families answer to dieting was a so called 'diet doctor'.

I started seeing him when I was in 7th grade. he gave you a shot of some

sort that had you peeing your brains out within about 20-30min. we could

barely make the drive back home! I have no idea what it was but diuretic

springs to mind. then we got the very best of 'uppers', speed,

amphetamines. one for before each meal. we lost tons of weight. of course at

some point you have to go off the lovely little black beauties and come back

to earth. then you regain the weight and repeat the process. I'm sure it was

about every two years we would go see Doc s. we'd see him regularly

which was weekly for our little stash of drugs and after about 6-12mon. we

had lost enough weight. than a year or two later we'd go again.

of course after my second trip to him, this was in the 70's!!! [sex, drugs,

rock 'n roll] I was in HS and many fellow students realized I had the

makings for a wonderful party - an evening on high - multiple black beauties

were quit a little money maker. well I digress.

as far as I know Doc s was still in business when I left NJ in 1989

but I believe he closed his officers shortly after that.

that was the best diet for actually dropping the pounds but the diet I

enjoyed and could stick to the best was my own chocolate and water diet. I

could live on hershey bars and water, it was great. see I didn't do the

popular ones like weight watchers, jenny craig, optifast. I made up my

own - something I knew I could stick too. the apple and chocolate milk diet

was a huge success too!

its no wonder my thyroid thinks it died and my metabolism can't win a race

with a turtle!

Sue

[swVA]

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Oh Yes, and . . .What about Jane Fonda??? The Queen of

perpetuating the myth of what an average 40 year old looks like! Oh OH Ogh

Oh! And what about Jazzercise??? And Weight Watchers. I used to fly in a

private plane from Phoenix up to Lake Havasu with the ladies that owned the

Arizona WW franchise. Yeah I was their success story, at my first meeting

somebody asked me when I made goal and how long did it take (I was a very fat

130 pounds in my mind.) What kills me is all these places let me join when

my weight problem was only between my ears! OH yeah, Anyone try hypnosis????

LOL, it was one more step towards morbid obesity.

:o) Vicki

In a message dated 12/19/2001 11:35:25 AM Pacific Standard Time,

JonnysGirl81@... writes:

> OK - I have a few more - on top of my friend Craig - I have had

other

> friends in weight loss as well - Simmon's Deal A Meal and Sweating

to

> the Oldies and my pal Powter - Start The Insanity - or was that Stop

> The Insanity! LOL! I remember my mom & her friends getting injections of

> pregnant women's urine - made you nauseous so you couldn't eat!

>

> So funny...the things we did to lose weight!

>

> Marjie

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<<My discouragement with this is part of the reason it took me so long to

try surgery -- I was really convinced this was yet another scam! It took me

a long while to accept that it worked and a longer time to have the courage

to believe it just might work for me.>>

I didn't have to be convinced but I do think all my past diet failures are

why my husband had no faith in this working for me. He watched me try diet

after diet after diet and many exercise programs as well, only to see me

lose almost nothing and just gain even more once I gave up.

About 4 yrs. prior to my WLS, I figured out that diets DON'T WORK and quit

them. Wonder of wonder, I quit gaining! No, I didn't lose much but to just

hold steady felt like a miracle for me and I resolved to just be happy where

I was. Of course, eventually health problems started popping up and I

reached desperation point where my serious look into surgery started.

It wasn't until I drug Matt's butt with me to some support group meetings

and he saw right before him the proof that surgery works that he was willing

to support me at all in this. And now of course, he is my biggest supporter!

He even carries my before & after pics around with him and shows them to

everyone who will let him. And he's been known to give them away to people

and I have to keep printing up more for him. LOL

And yes, I remember Aydes...my mom used to take them and I would sneak them

from her like they were candy. I didn't even have a weight problem then!

A. in Indy

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Diet pills from about age 10 until age19. By the time I was 17, I was so

whacked out from the diet pills and the harassment of being overweight, that I

was also on tranquilizers. Um, hm...diet pills (legal speed) AND tranquilizers.

I would either be up all night cleaning everything in sight or sleeping for

days. Those diet pills were eventually taken off the market. Between the pills

and during the pills were many many other diet programs....soup diets, 1000

calorie diets (from the same doc that gave me the diet pills). Later came weight

watchers, TOPS, liquid protein diets, fasting, Dexatrim. There was another over

the counter pill to speed you up too, the one college kids take to stay

awake...oh yeah, Vivarin, I think it was called. Lets not forget the shots. I

don't know what they were, maybe thyroid shots? I have probably forgotten a

bunch more. I've tried them all.

Chrissie

Surgery: August 31, 2000: Open RNY/GB Removal/hernia repair

Start: 373lbs Height 5'2 " BMI 70

8/16 Abdominoplasty(-8 lbs)/thigh lipectomy

11/6 - 186 BMI 34

total loss - 187 lbs

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You know what I tried all of those too, except , dont think I

ever tried him. Tried Craig and her buddy too, what a rip off!

grrrrrrr.

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You know what I tried all of those too, except , dont think I

ever tried him. Tried Craig and her buddy too, what a rip off!

grrrrrrr.

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LOL, I remember going there with my MOM and I thought it was the dumbest

thing I ever watched . . .there was also a barrel made of nobby wooden dowels

that went around at different speeds beating whatever part of your body you

put by it! I remember thinking it was awful to get older and put yourself

through such stuff! I think the place was called Eileen Feathers Figure

Salon! The same family that later brought us the Cambridge diet.

:o) Vicki

In a message dated 12/19/2001 3:30:06 PM Pacific Standard Time,

ldybostons@... writes:

> HEY! Does anyone remember an " exercise " place called Gloria Marshall (or

> Something or other.... can't remember the last name) during the mid to late

> 70's? They used to put you on one of those machines that JIGGLED you with a

> belt... and then there was a table that did different things..... LOL

> Instruments of torture!!! PLUS you were supposed to follow their diet! I

> paid MEGA bucks to try that and NOTHING happened. They said they could

> Sculpt your body. ROTFL.......

>

> Debbie in Gig Harbor

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LOL, I remember going there with my MOM and I thought it was the dumbest

thing I ever watched . . .there was also a barrel made of nobby wooden dowels

that went around at different speeds beating whatever part of your body you

put by it! I remember thinking it was awful to get older and put yourself

through such stuff! I think the place was called Eileen Feathers Figure

Salon! The same family that later brought us the Cambridge diet.

:o) Vicki

In a message dated 12/19/2001 3:30:06 PM Pacific Standard Time,

ldybostons@... writes:

> HEY! Does anyone remember an " exercise " place called Gloria Marshall (or

> Something or other.... can't remember the last name) during the mid to late

> 70's? They used to put you on one of those machines that JIGGLED you with a

> belt... and then there was a table that did different things..... LOL

> Instruments of torture!!! PLUS you were supposed to follow their diet! I

> paid MEGA bucks to try that and NOTHING happened. They said they could

> Sculpt your body. ROTFL.......

>

> Debbie in Gig Harbor

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Vicki! ROFLMAO!!! Wouldn't we all be one hell of a

group of spokemen for diet clubs!

judy

--- Haasevp@... wrote:

> Beverly Hills and Scarsdale, Atkins, Doctors Quick

> Weight Loss Clinic,

> NUtraSystem, Craig, Lindora, yes Optifast . .

> .My own favorite the 8

> diet . . .I ate 8 bites of 8 different foods

> everyday . ..then I lost count

> and 8 everything in sight!

> :o) Vicki

>

> In a message dated 12/18/2001 10:21:36 PM Pacific

> Standard Time,

> Loreli@... writes:

>

> > Hmmm, good topic Alice & Jan, let's see:

> > Cambridge Diet, Liquid Protien (GAG is right!),

> Optifast (with that

> > horrible liquid potassium-ugh!), giant tablets

> (don't remember the

> > name-from Joe Weider maybe), Atkins, grapefruit,

> Pritikin, Sugar

> > Busters, Metrecal (I'm showing my age now!), Ayds

> (snuck them out of

> > my sister's drawer for candy),slim-fast, weight

> watchers, apple cider

> > vinegar, See's candy (ok I made that one

> up).....I'm sure there's

> > more but I can't remember-probably from brain

> damage caused by

> > excessive dieting!

> >

> > Lori

> > fp/pann 291 to 140 lbs

> >

>

> Homepage:

> http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Graduate-OSSG

>

> Unsubscribe:

> mailto:Graduate-OSSG-unsubscribe

>

>

>

>

>

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OK - I have a few more - on top of my friend Craig - I have had other

friends in weight loss as well - Simmon's Deal A Meal and Sweating to

the Oldies and my pal Powter - Start The Insanity - or was that Stop The

Insanity! LOL! I remember my mom & her friends getting injections of pregnant

women's urine - made you nauseous so you couldn't eat!

So funny...the things we did to lose weight!

Marjie

judy davison wrote:

>Vicki! ROFLMAO!!! Wouldn't we all be one hell of a

>group of spokemen for diet clubs!

>judy

>--- Haasevp@... wrote:

>> Beverly Hills and Scarsdale, Atkins, Doctors Quick

>> Weight Loss Clinic,

>> NUtraSystem, Craig, Lindora, yes Optifast . .

>> .My own favorite the 8

>> diet . . .I ate 8 bites of 8 different foods

>> everyday . ..then I lost count

>> and 8 everything in sight!

>> :o) Vicki

>>

>> In a message dated 12/18/2001 10:21:36 PM Pacific

>> Standard Time,

>> Loreli@... writes:

>>

>> > Hmmm, good topic Alice & Jan, let's see:

>> > Cambridge Diet, Liquid Protien (GAG is right!),

>> Optifast (with that

>> > horrible liquid potassium-ugh!), giant tablets

>> (don't remember the

>> > name-from Joe Weider maybe), Atkins, grapefruit,

>> Pritikin, Sugar

>> > Busters, Metrecal (I'm showing my age now!), Ayds

>> (snuck them out of

>> > my sister's drawer for candy),slim-fast, weight

>> watchers, apple cider

>> > vinegar, See's candy (ok I made that one

>> up).....I'm sure there's

>> > more but I can't remember-probably from brain

>> damage caused by

>> > excessive dieting!

>> >

>> > Lori

>> > fp/pann 291 to 140 lbs

>> >

>>

>> Homepage:

>> http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Graduate-OSSG

>>

>> Unsubscribe:

>> mailto:Graduate-OSSG-unsubscribe

>>

>>

>>

>>

>>

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OK - I have a few more - on top of my friend Craig - I have had other

friends in weight loss as well - Simmon's Deal A Meal and Sweating to

the Oldies and my pal Powter - Start The Insanity - or was that Stop The

Insanity! LOL! I remember my mom & her friends getting injections of pregnant

women's urine - made you nauseous so you couldn't eat!

So funny...the things we did to lose weight!

Marjie

judy davison wrote:

>Vicki! ROFLMAO!!! Wouldn't we all be one hell of a

>group of spokemen for diet clubs!

>judy

>--- Haasevp@... wrote:

>> Beverly Hills and Scarsdale, Atkins, Doctors Quick

>> Weight Loss Clinic,

>> NUtraSystem, Craig, Lindora, yes Optifast . .

>> .My own favorite the 8

>> diet . . .I ate 8 bites of 8 different foods

>> everyday . ..then I lost count

>> and 8 everything in sight!

>> :o) Vicki

>>

>> In a message dated 12/18/2001 10:21:36 PM Pacific

>> Standard Time,

>> Loreli@... writes:

>>

>> > Hmmm, good topic Alice & Jan, let's see:

>> > Cambridge Diet, Liquid Protien (GAG is right!),

>> Optifast (with that

>> > horrible liquid potassium-ugh!), giant tablets

>> (don't remember the

>> > name-from Joe Weider maybe), Atkins, grapefruit,

>> Pritikin, Sugar

>> > Busters, Metrecal (I'm showing my age now!), Ayds

>> (snuck them out of

>> > my sister's drawer for candy),slim-fast, weight

>> watchers, apple cider

>> > vinegar, See's candy (ok I made that one

>> up).....I'm sure there's

>> > more but I can't remember-probably from brain

>> damage caused by

>> > excessive dieting!

>> >

>> > Lori

>> > fp/pann 291 to 140 lbs

>> >

>>

>> Homepage:

>> http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Graduate-OSSG

>>

>> Unsubscribe:

>> mailto:Graduate-OSSG-unsubscribe

>>

>>

>>

>>

>>

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Okay, I will jump in. How many remember the old Grey

sheet in Overeaters Anonymous or the Orange sheet or

the blue sheet. 12 years well spent. I learned to

cope with a lot but also learned how to have *fat

serenity* and could not keep my weight off.

I still love the 12 step program and use many tools

and steps daily. But, without this surgery I never

could have kept on. I do not attend meetings but love

the ideas.

Rita

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