Guest guest Posted February 23, 2005 Report Share Posted February 23, 2005 Yogurt, imnho, should always be bought plain. And free of additives. Mix in your own condiments. I like to put a dab of yogurt on top of small pieces of fruit and then put cinnamon on top of, or mixed into the yogurt. Maybe some nutmeg too. Helen Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 23, 2005 Report Share Posted February 23, 2005 Hi Helen, If I might jump in here. Lol I can't handle eating plain yogurt. I prefer fruity yogurt and I have found a brand here that is FF and SF, has 10-12g of carbs. I also love the strawberry cheesecake flavor too. I know you can make these flavors yourself. And I love to cook and be creative, but with all I have, I just don't feel up to doing much anymore so I try to cut corners where I can. I do cook almost everyday, some nights the family gets sandwiches. I had my first sandwich last night using lettuce as a wrap. It was pretty good actually. Tommie _____ Yogurt, imnho, should always be bought plain. And free of additives. Mix in your own condiments. I like to put a dab of yogurt on top of small pieces of fruit and then put cinnamon on top of, or mixed into the yogurt. Maybe some nutmeg too. Helen Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 24, 2005 Report Share Posted February 24, 2005 DaVinci lowcarb syrups made with Splenda. Where do you find these? Certain part of the grocery store? Or are they at a special store? I love yogurt with out pieces of fruit in it. Last night I actually found Dreamfields Pasta at my local grocery and some low-carb wraps. I even bought some of the Low Carb Milk, I had some this morning and it has a slight different taste to it, but it's not bad and I can handle it my cereal. I also bought Dr. Bernstein's book yesterday. I'm really getting into all this now, I just wished I had started 4 yrs ago, I can't imagine how much better I would be now. Helen, I even used your advise again, that you gave Tommie and bought some Green Tea, I have never tried Tea before, I've always smelled it and hated it, but I made some last night and put in the fridge. I do plan on trying it tonight after it's nice and cold. I guess I'm a little scared I won't like it, but I'm so wanting to get away from the diet Soda. I'm trying to wean myself off the caffeine, if I don't have it I still get headaches, and if I do have it, it does have the effect to spike my BG readings. I also hate water, I can drink it if it's Ice cold, but that's the only time. I've listed below the last couple weeks of my BG readings, I see my doctor again March 7th, I would just like some of your thoughts, if they still seem a little high on average? Do you think I could talk to the doctor to stop taking Glipzide? Some times I do get in the 60's before lunch. I'm type 2, 34yrs old, 1000 mg 2 times a day of Metaformin, and 5 mg Glipzide once a day. Thank you for allowing me to read all of your posts, I have learned a great deal from all of you. Feb 24th: Pre B 110 Post B 116 Feb 23rd: Pre B 117 Pre L 72 Pre D 95 Post D 95 Feb 22nd: Pre B 160 Pre L 71 Pre D 109 Feb 21st: Pre B 152 Pre L 81 Pre D 100 Post D 136 Feb 20th: Pre B 125 Pre D 99 Feb 19th: Pre B 111 Pre D 78 Bed 155 Feb 18th: Pre B 135 Pre L 73 Pre D 169 Feb 17th: Pre B 104 Pre L 75 Pre D 98 Feb 16th: Pre B 104 Pre L 72 Pre D 78 Post D 97 Feb 15th: Pre B 94 Pre L 73 Pre D 149 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 24, 2005 Report Share Posted February 24, 2005 Hi, T ommie...well, think about this. You say you " can't handle eating plain yogurt " . If it was a matter of losing your sight or not eating plain yogurt...would the choice become easier? I can see you're fighting giving up your favorite foods and that's totally understandable. We've all been through this. But give it a try. Buy some plain yogurt and then buy some DaVinci lowcarb syrups made with Splenda. They come in all kinds of nifty flavors. My standard dessert (and this would work for breakfast too) is a mixture, half ricotta (less carbs than cottage cheese) and half plain yogurt. Then I add a splash of any flavor DaVinci syrup -- right now I'm liking Kalua or peppermint (but not together) -- and a few sliced berries: Frozen strawberries from Trader Joe's (no sugar added!) during the winter, fresh raspberries, strawberries or blueberries during the summer. The key word here is a FEW. It really satisfies. You're going to have to change your eating habits if you ever want to get your BGs down to where they won't cause harm to your body. But I can assure you -- if you do this now, this time next year it won't hurt at all, smile. And you'll have all your body parts in good working condition, which is the payoff. Vicki RE: yogurt > > > Hi Helen, > > If I might jump in here. Lol I can't handle eating plain yogurt. I > prefer > fruity yogurt and I have found a brand here that is FF and SF, has > 10-12g of > carbs. I also love the strawberry cheesecake flavor too. I know you > can make > these flavors yourself. And I love to cook and be creative, but with > all I > have, I just don't feel up to doing much anymore so I try to cut > corners > where I can. I do cook almost everyday, some nights the family gets > sandwiches. I had my first sandwich last night using lettuce as a > wrap. It > was pretty good actually. > > Tommie > _____ > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 24, 2005 Report Share Posted February 24, 2005 In the summer, plain yogurt is also delicious with fresh cucumber slices and lots of garlic. Gretchen Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 24, 2005 Report Share Posted February 24, 2005 Well, I get them at my local lowcarb store, which stocks them all. But I realize not everyone has a lowcarb store handy. You might find them at a large local chain; some Safeway stores carries them around here. You could ask your store manager if they'll stock t hem. They're also available online. Here's the URL for their site. You can also get them through online lowcarb stores, of which there are many, just do a Google search. http://www.davincigourmet.com/729.html?flashdetect=YES Vicki Re: yogurt > > > DaVinci lowcarb syrups made with Splenda. > Where do you find these? Certain part of the grocery store? Or are > they at a > special store? > I love yogurt with out pieces of fruit in it. > > Last night I actually found Dreamfields Pasta at my local grocery and > some > low-carb wraps. I even bought some of the Low Carb Milk, I had some > this > morning and it has a slight different taste to it, but it's not bad > and I can > handle it my cereal. I also bought Dr. Bernstein's book yesterday. I'm > really > getting into all this now, I just wished I had started 4 yrs ago, I > can't > imagine how much better I would be now. > > Helen, I even used your advise again, that you gave Tommie and bought > some > Green Tea, I have never tried Tea before, I've always smelled it and > hated it, > but I made some last night and put in the fridge. I do plan on trying > it > tonight after it's nice and cold. I guess I'm a little scared I won't > like it, > but I'm so wanting to get away from the diet Soda. I'm trying to wean > myself > off the caffeine, if I don't have it I still get headaches, and if I > do have > it, it does have the effect to spike my BG readings. I also hate > water, I can > drink it if it's Ice cold, but that's the only time. > > I've listed below the last couple weeks of my BG readings, I see my > doctor > again March 7th, I would just like some of your thoughts, if they > still seem a > little high on average? Do you think I could talk to the doctor to > stop > taking Glipzide? Some times I do get in the 60's before lunch. > > I'm type 2, 34yrs old, 1000 mg 2 times a day of Metaformin, and 5 mg Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 24, 2005 Report Share Posted February 24, 2005 Has anyone else tried the CarbDown yogurt or smoothies? I had tried the smoothie a while back & found it so disgusting that I threw it out. Today I bought a container of blueberry yogurt. Same thing--the taste is ok but the texture is both slimey & gummy & chalky to me. I ate about 2 spoonsful & out it went. cappie Greater Boston Area T-2 10/02 1/05 A1c: 5.4 = 115 mean glu 50-100 carb diet, walking, Metformin ALA/EPO, Coq10, B12, ALC, Vit C Cal/mag, low dose Biotin, full spectrum E, Chromium P, Policosanol, fish oil cap, fresh flax seed, multi vitamin, Lovastatin 20 mg, Enalapril 10 mg 2/05:143 lbs (highest weight 309), 5' tall /age 67, cappie@... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 24, 2005 Report Share Posted February 24, 2005 Cappie - I have tried both made by Hood - the Smoothie I find quite good. The yogurt I usually add a few nuts or a couple of pieces of fruit and stir it up. I find it quite satisfying for the number of carbs you are getting YMMV Barb in NH Has anyone else tried the CarbDown yogurt or smoothies? cappie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 24, 2005 Report Share Posted February 24, 2005 cappie@... wrote: > Has anyone else tried the CarbDown yogurt or smoothies? I've been getting the Dannon Carb Control yogurt - 3g each little carton. Tastes just like yogurt to me - but I'm not a yogurt person - just like a little allowable dessert. CarolR Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 24, 2005 Report Share Posted February 24, 2005 cappie@... wrote: > Has anyone else tried the CarbDown yogurt or smoothies? I've been getting the Dannon Carb Control yogurt - 3g each little carton. Tastes just like yogurt to me - but I'm not a yogurt person - just like a little allowable dessert. CarolR Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 24, 2005 Report Share Posted February 24, 2005 Tommie - a rule of thumb, which is just a starting point and certainly not true for everyone, is that each gram of carbohydrate will raise your blood sugar by five points. So if you start with a bg of 165 and eat 12 grams of carbohydrate you will raise your bg 60 points, for an ending number of 165+60 = 225. Then you need to know how many points each unit of insulin will bring the bg back down. If that number is 20 points, then to get to a bg of 100 you would need to dose 3 units just for the 12 carbs and another 3.25 units to correct the original 165. If each unit of insulin brings your bg down by 10 points you'd have to double the dose. There's a book called " Using Insulin " recommended to me by someone on this list which is very good for starting points, and discusses how to figure dosing for basal and for meals. It's based on your weight and some other factors, and of course those results need to be tested and tested again in order to arrive at an individual dosing regimen. I got it at Amazon.com. CarolR CarolR Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 24, 2005 Report Share Posted February 24, 2005 Tommie - a rule of thumb, which is just a starting point and certainly not true for everyone, is that each gram of carbohydrate will raise your blood sugar by five points. So if you start with a bg of 165 and eat 12 grams of carbohydrate you will raise your bg 60 points, for an ending number of 165+60 = 225. Then you need to know how many points each unit of insulin will bring the bg back down. If that number is 20 points, then to get to a bg of 100 you would need to dose 3 units just for the 12 carbs and another 3.25 units to correct the original 165. If each unit of insulin brings your bg down by 10 points you'd have to double the dose. There's a book called " Using Insulin " recommended to me by someone on this list which is very good for starting points, and discusses how to figure dosing for basal and for meals. It's based on your weight and some other factors, and of course those results need to be tested and tested again in order to arrive at an individual dosing regimen. I got it at Amazon.com. CarolR CarolR Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 24, 2005 Report Share Posted February 24, 2005 Good idea, Carol. Boy, I wish there was a formula that worked like that for type 1s :-( Vicki Re: yogurt > > Tommie - a rule of thumb, which is just a starting point and certainly > not true for everyone, is that each gram of carbohydrate will raise > your > blood sugar by five points. So if you start with a bg of 165 and eat > 12 > grams of carbohydrate you will raise your bg 60 points, for an ending > number of 165+60 = 225. Then you need to know how many points each > unit > of insulin will bring the bg back down. If that number is 20 points, > then to get to a bg of 100 you would need to dose 3 units just for the > 12 carbs and another 3.25 units to correct the original 165. If each > unit of insulin brings your bg down by 10 points you'd have to double > the dose. There's a book called " Using Insulin " recommended to me by > someone on this list which is very good for starting points, and > discusses how to figure dosing for basal and for meals. It's based on > your weight and some other factors, and of course those results need > to > be tested and tested again in order to arrive at an individual dosing > regimen. I got it at Amazon.com. > > CarolR > > CarolR > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 24, 2005 Report Share Posted February 24, 2005 My daughter eats them. I like mixing my own. Christy > Has anyone else tried the CarbDown yogurt or smoothies? > > I had tried the smoothie a while back & found it so disgusting that I > threw it out. > > Today I bought a container of blueberry yogurt. Same thing--the taste > is ok but the texture is both slimey & gummy & chalky to me. I ate > about 2 spoonsful & out it went. > > > cappie > Greater Boston Area > T-2 10/02 1/05 A1c: 5.4 = 115 mean glu > 50-100 carb diet, walking, Metformin > > ALA/EPO, Coq10, B12, ALC, Vit C > Cal/mag, low dose Biotin, full spectrum E, > Chromium P, Policosanol, fish oil cap, > fresh flax seed, multi vitamin, > Lovastatin 20 mg, Enalapril 10 mg > > 2/05:143 lbs (highest weight 309), > 5' tall /age 67, > cappie@w... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 24, 2005 Report Share Posted February 24, 2005 My daughter eats them. I like mixing my own. Christy > Has anyone else tried the CarbDown yogurt or smoothies? > > I had tried the smoothie a while back & found it so disgusting that I > threw it out. > > Today I bought a container of blueberry yogurt. Same thing--the taste > is ok but the texture is both slimey & gummy & chalky to me. I ate > about 2 spoonsful & out it went. > > > cappie > Greater Boston Area > T-2 10/02 1/05 A1c: 5.4 = 115 mean glu > 50-100 carb diet, walking, Metformin > > ALA/EPO, Coq10, B12, ALC, Vit C > Cal/mag, low dose Biotin, full spectrum E, > Chromium P, Policosanol, fish oil cap, > fresh flax seed, multi vitamin, > Lovastatin 20 mg, Enalapril 10 mg > > 2/05:143 lbs (highest weight 309), > 5' tall /age 67, > cappie@w... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 24, 2005 Report Share Posted February 24, 2005 I do eat plain fat free organic yogurt all the time but I just wondered what the CatbDown would taste like since the milk/dairy drink is tolerable. I won't be eating it again I can tell you that. cappie Greater Boston Area T-2 10/02 1/05 A1c: 5.4 = 115 mean glu 50-100 carb diet, walking, Metformin ALA/EPO, Coq10, B12, ALC, Vit C Cal/mag, low dose Biotin, full spectrum E, Chromium P, Policosanol, fish oil cap, fresh flax seed, multi vitamin, Lovastatin 20 mg, Enalapril 10 mg 2/05:143 lbs (highest weight 309), 5' tall /age 67, cappie@... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 24, 2005 Report Share Posted February 24, 2005 Well, it doesn't work as a formula, like I said, it's just a starting point. But I had to read that book and do those calculations before I could even begin to understand Ron Sebol's tutorials. So for that, at least, it was helpful. Also helps to have a baseline to work from. CarolR whimsy2 wrote: > Good idea, Carol. > Boy, I wish there was a formula that worked like that for type 1s :-( > Vicki Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 24, 2005 Report Share Posted February 24, 2005 > Today I bought a container of blueberry yogurt. Same thing--the taste > is ok but the texture is both slimey & gummy & chalky to me. I ate > about 2 spoonsful & out it went. I find that when one has been eating real food for a while, many prepared foods taste terrible. Especially the dairy foods. Makes one realize what one had been accepting as food. One thing I've done to make those LC yogurts edible (I like to try new things, but so far I haven't bought any brand twice) is to add water, shake it up, and add a bit of whatever sweetener one prefers. There's plenty of flavoring to extend it this way, and it improves the texture (to my mind). Then one has a fruity drink. Mostly I make my own yogurt. Much cheaper this way. Gretchen Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 24, 2005 Report Share Posted February 24, 2005 Hi Gretchen, How do you make your own yogurt? I wouldn't know where to start. I've never eaten plain yogurt beyond the first taste, but I guess the key is doctor it up. Which I will give a try. Are grape nuts bad for us? They are cheaper than nuts and would be great with a small amt in some yogurt. Tommie * Mostly I make my own yogurt. Much cheaper this way. Gretchen Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 24, 2005 Report Share Posted February 24, 2005 Carol, I haven't even worked with Ron yet. Having to slow down here as I got so overwhelmed. So, right now I am focusing on my food and then work from there. There are so many aspects of diabetes, you feel like you have to take it all one at ones. But as with anything else in life, there are priorities in the different levels of our care. Medicare pays for a Podiatrist visit every 10 wks for diabetic foot checks. I'm setting up my appts tomorrow. The doc even cuts your nails. So it will be like a treat to go see him. Tommie _____ From: Carol Sent: Thursday, February 24, 2005 7:36 PM To: diabetes_int Subject: Re: yogurt Well, it doesn't work as a formula, like I said, it's just a starting point. But I had to read that book and do those calculations before I could even begin to understand Ron Sebol's tutorials. So for that, at least, it was helpful. Also helps to have a baseline to work from. CarolR whimsy2 wrote: > Good idea, Carol. > Boy, I wish there was a formula that worked like that for type 1s :-( > Vicki Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 24, 2005 Report Share Posted February 24, 2005 I think you're doing fine. I couldn't even read Ron's stuff until I had a way better handle on the insulin thing. I had to read three books before I even felt educated enough to read HIS stuff. CarolR Tommie wrote: > Carol, > I haven't even worked with Ron yet. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 24, 2005 Report Share Posted February 24, 2005 I think you're doing fine. I couldn't even read Ron's stuff until I had a way better handle on the insulin thing. I had to read three books before I even felt educated enough to read HIS stuff. CarolR Tommie wrote: > Carol, > I haven't even worked with Ron yet. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 24, 2005 Report Share Posted February 24, 2005 Gretchen: I wonder if one could use the CarbDown dairy drink to make yogurt? cappie Greater Boston Area T-2 10/02 1/05 A1c: 5.4 = 115 mean glu 50-100 carb diet, walking, Metformin ALA/EPO, Coq10, B12, ALC, Vit C Cal/mag, low dose Biotin, full spectrum E, Chromium P, Policosanol, fish oil cap, fresh flax seed, multi vitamin, Lovastatin 20 mg, Enalapril 10 mg 2/05:143 lbs (highest weight 309), 5' tall /age 67, cappie@... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 24, 2005 Report Share Posted February 24, 2005 Ah yes the Greeks make the cuke, garlic & yogurt dish at all their get-togethers all the time not just in summer. My mother in law uses those long thin " English " cukes cause they have so few seeds. cappie Greater Boston Area T-2 10/02 1/05 A1c: 5.4 = 115 mean glu 50-100 carb diet, walking, Metformin ALA/EPO, Coq10, B12, ALC, Vit C Cal/mag, low dose Biotin, full spectrum E, Chromium P, Policosanol, fish oil cap, fresh flax seed, multi vitamin, Lovastatin 20 mg, Enalapril 10 mg 2/05:143 lbs (highest weight 309), 5' tall /age 67, cappie@... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 24, 2005 Report Share Posted February 24, 2005 For the answer to your question about whether Grape Nuts were okay, I went to the USDA website to check it out and surprisingly, it wasn't there. However, I searched a little further and found this website: http://www.carbohydrate-guide.com/ According to them, 1 ounce of Grape Nuts -- which is 1/4 cup -- has 23 carbs. So I would say they're not very good for diabetics, OTOH...you could try it for yourself. Check your BG before eating...then eat a measured amount with a measured amount of milk. Test an hour and 2 hours later. Then you'll know how it affects YOU. Vicki RE: yogurt > > Hi Gretchen, > > > > How do you make your own yogurt? I wouldn't know where to start. I've > never > eaten plain yogurt beyond the first taste, but I guess the key is > doctor it > up. Which I will give a try. Are grape nuts bad for us? They are > cheaper > than nuts and would be great with a small amt in some yogurt. > > > > Tommie > > > > * > Mostly I make my own yogurt. Much cheaper this way. > > Gretchen > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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