question

[Guest guest]

It all depends on your pituitary. If it is hypersensitive to you

adding thyroid or not working properly (low TSH) it will drop too

low in it's production of TSH and slow thyroid output too much. But,

if it is functioning normally, taking low levels of thyroid should

not make you go more hypo.

Tish

____________________

> Hi all,

>

> If a person as currently at 1gr of armour, working his way up to

2grs

> or 3, and he goes up too slow. Would you get hypo again even if

the

> 1gr was helping? If so, how slow would you have to go to get hypo

> before uping your dose? Did I make any sense?

>

>

[Guest guest]

It all depends on your pituitary. If it is hypersensitive to you

adding thyroid or not working properly (low TSH) it will drop too

low in it's production of TSH and slow thyroid output too much. But,

if it is functioning normally, taking low levels of thyroid should

not make you go more hypo.

Tish

____________________

> Hi all,

>

> If a person as currently at 1gr of armour, working his way up to

2grs

> or 3, and he goes up too slow. Would you get hypo again even if

the

> 1gr was helping? If so, how slow would you have to go to get hypo

> before uping your dose? Did I make any sense?

>

>

[Guest guest]

In a message dated 9/27/2004 10:32:07 AM Eastern Standard Time,

zinared@... writes:

> He raised it to 2 grains...I have

> been taking 2 grains now for 2 weeks. I have alot more energy than I

> did.....I haven't lost any weight....He said he thought I would lose

> w/in a week to 2 weeks....I called and talked w/the nurse this

> morning. She said(after discussing w/DR.) that she would call in

> prescription for Synthroid and to take 1 grain of armour w/it...

NOoooooo. Why don't you just up the Armour? What is your Free T3 and Free

T4. These docs will do anything to get someone on $ynthroid.

Cindi

[Guest guest]

In a message dated 9/27/2004 10:32:07 AM Eastern Standard Time,

zinared@... writes:

> He raised it to 2 grains...I have

> been taking 2 grains now for 2 weeks. I have alot more energy than I

> did.....I haven't lost any weight....He said he thought I would lose

> w/in a week to 2 weeks....I called and talked w/the nurse this

> morning. She said(after discussing w/DR.) that she would call in

> prescription for Synthroid and to take 1 grain of armour w/it...

NOoooooo. Why don't you just up the Armour? What is your Free T3 and Free

T4. These docs will do anything to get someone on $ynthroid.

Cindi

[Guest guest]

In a message dated 9/27/2004 12:23:32 PM Eastern Standard Time,

jaybriggs@... writes:

>

> Just wanted to chime in here and say that I have NEVER HEARD OF

> ANYONE losing weight after only 2 weeks of thyroid meds of any kind!

>

>

I agree with this. I think it takes quite a while to get the metabolism

balanced...and even then, I think losing weight can be difficult for a thyroid

patient. I'll take this opportunity to recommend Shoman's new book " The

Thyroid Diet " which tackles this issue.

Cindi

[Guest guest]

In a message dated 9/27/2004 12:23:32 PM Eastern Standard Time,

jaybriggs@... writes:

>

> Just wanted to chime in here and say that I have NEVER HEARD OF

> ANYONE losing weight after only 2 weeks of thyroid meds of any kind!

>

>

I agree with this. I think it takes quite a while to get the metabolism

balanced...and even then, I think losing weight can be difficult for a thyroid

patient. I'll take this opportunity to recommend Shoman's new book " The

Thyroid Diet " which tackles this issue.

Cindi

[Guest guest]

In a message dated 9/27/2004 12:23:32 PM Eastern Standard Time,

jaybriggs@... writes:

>

> Just wanted to chime in here and say that I have NEVER HEARD OF

> ANYONE losing weight after only 2 weeks of thyroid meds of any kind!

>

>

I agree with this. I think it takes quite a while to get the metabolism

balanced...and even then, I think losing weight can be difficult for a thyroid

patient. I'll take this opportunity to recommend Shoman's new book " The

Thyroid Diet " which tackles this issue.

Cindi

[Guest guest]

Hi Zina and yes, we remember you, dear one. Sure glad to read you

found a doc to prescribe Armour. Zina, Armour is not a weight loss

pill, and for your doc to say that you would start losing weight in

two weeks implies it. What Armour does, WHEN you find your optimal

dose, is return your metabolism to normal, and that can take time,

not two weeks. Then, combined with exercise and low-glycemic eating,

your chances of losing weight are MUCH greater!

Armrou is also initially a diuretic, and you might notice that.

And as far as reducing your Armour to one grain and adding the

Synthroid, BIG MISTAKE, Zina. Tell the doc that you want to stay on

the 2 grains Armour, and slowly increase the ARMOUR. It's the T3 and

T2 in Armour that will help you, NOT the sole T4 in Synthroid.

Armour contains T3 and T4. T3 is fairly immediate, and that is why

you are feeling a bit better. But T4 is not immediate. It's a

storage hormone that is meant to convert to T3. But it can take at

least 3-4 weeks before you begin noticing the effects of the buildup

of the T4. SO....it's wise to stick with that 2 grains another few

weeks. If you feel you still have symptoms of hypo, you can raise

again--perhaps to 2 1/2 grains, and hold that a few weeks. Etc.

Janie

s > I don't know if y'all remember me...I was a ww leader and lost

my job

> because of weight gain because of my thyroid. I found a Dr. from

this

> site. After 2 yrs of having Hashimotos(or longer) and not being

> treated..he treated me. I started on 1 grain of Armour. I took

that

> for 1 month....no major changes....He raised it to 2 grains...I

have

> been taking 2 grains now for 2 weeks. I have alot more energy than

I

> did.....I haven't lost any weight....He said he thought I would

lose

> w/in a week to 2 weeks....I called and talked w/the nurse this

> morning. She said(after discussing w/DR.) that she would call in

> prescription for Synthroid and to take 1 grain of armour

w/it...She

> may have said 50mg of Synthroid(does that sound right??) anyway I

am

> suppose to call her back and let her know... do I want to continue

as

> is or try this for the weightloss...What do y'all think and why

would

> this make a difference for me??? Thank you, Zina

[Guest guest]

Hi Zina and yes, we remember you, dear one. Sure glad to read you

found a doc to prescribe Armour. Zina, Armour is not a weight loss

pill, and for your doc to say that you would start losing weight in

two weeks implies it. What Armour does, WHEN you find your optimal

dose, is return your metabolism to normal, and that can take time,

not two weeks. Then, combined with exercise and low-glycemic eating,

your chances of losing weight are MUCH greater!

Armrou is also initially a diuretic, and you might notice that.

And as far as reducing your Armour to one grain and adding the

Synthroid, BIG MISTAKE, Zina. Tell the doc that you want to stay on

the 2 grains Armour, and slowly increase the ARMOUR. It's the T3 and

T2 in Armour that will help you, NOT the sole T4 in Synthroid.

Armour contains T3 and T4. T3 is fairly immediate, and that is why

you are feeling a bit better. But T4 is not immediate. It's a

storage hormone that is meant to convert to T3. But it can take at

least 3-4 weeks before you begin noticing the effects of the buildup

of the T4. SO....it's wise to stick with that 2 grains another few

weeks. If you feel you still have symptoms of hypo, you can raise

again--perhaps to 2 1/2 grains, and hold that a few weeks. Etc.

Janie

s > I don't know if y'all remember me...I was a ww leader and lost

my job

> because of weight gain because of my thyroid. I found a Dr. from

this

> site. After 2 yrs of having Hashimotos(or longer) and not being

> treated..he treated me. I started on 1 grain of Armour. I took

that

> for 1 month....no major changes....He raised it to 2 grains...I

have

> been taking 2 grains now for 2 weeks. I have alot more energy than

I

> did.....I haven't lost any weight....He said he thought I would

lose

> w/in a week to 2 weeks....I called and talked w/the nurse this

> morning. She said(after discussing w/DR.) that she would call in

> prescription for Synthroid and to take 1 grain of armour

w/it...She

> may have said 50mg of Synthroid(does that sound right??) anyway I

am

> suppose to call her back and let her know... do I want to continue

as

> is or try this for the weightloss...What do y'all think and why

would

> this make a difference for me??? Thank you, Zina

[Guest guest]

Hi Zina and yes, we remember you, dear one. Sure glad to read you

found a doc to prescribe Armour. Zina, Armour is not a weight loss

pill, and for your doc to say that you would start losing weight in

two weeks implies it. What Armour does, WHEN you find your optimal

dose, is return your metabolism to normal, and that can take time,

not two weeks. Then, combined with exercise and low-glycemic eating,

your chances of losing weight are MUCH greater!

Armrou is also initially a diuretic, and you might notice that.

And as far as reducing your Armour to one grain and adding the

Synthroid, BIG MISTAKE, Zina. Tell the doc that you want to stay on

the 2 grains Armour, and slowly increase the ARMOUR. It's the T3 and

T2 in Armour that will help you, NOT the sole T4 in Synthroid.

Armour contains T3 and T4. T3 is fairly immediate, and that is why

you are feeling a bit better. But T4 is not immediate. It's a

storage hormone that is meant to convert to T3. But it can take at

least 3-4 weeks before you begin noticing the effects of the buildup

of the T4. SO....it's wise to stick with that 2 grains another few

weeks. If you feel you still have symptoms of hypo, you can raise

again--perhaps to 2 1/2 grains, and hold that a few weeks. Etc.

Janie

s > I don't know if y'all remember me...I was a ww leader and lost

my job

> because of weight gain because of my thyroid. I found a Dr. from

this

> site. After 2 yrs of having Hashimotos(or longer) and not being

> treated..he treated me. I started on 1 grain of Armour. I took

that

> for 1 month....no major changes....He raised it to 2 grains...I

have

> been taking 2 grains now for 2 weeks. I have alot more energy than

I

> did.....I haven't lost any weight....He said he thought I would

lose

> w/in a week to 2 weeks....I called and talked w/the nurse this

> morning. She said(after discussing w/DR.) that she would call in

> prescription for Synthroid and to take 1 grain of armour

w/it...She

> may have said 50mg of Synthroid(does that sound right??) anyway I

am

> suppose to call her back and let her know... do I want to continue

as

> is or try this for the weightloss...What do y'all think and why

would

> this make a difference for me??? Thank you, Zina

[Guest guest]

Thank you so much for answering! I have been on Armour for 6 weeks

now...only on 2 grains for 2 weeks, before that I was on 1 grain for

4 weeks....my dr. said (at my last appt 2 weeks ago) that my body

made T-4 but it didn't regulate it or something like that....he also

said w/my diet that I have been on and the exercise I do that w/in a

couple of weeks (which makes a total of 6 weeks on armour) that I

should start losing(he didn't say fast, but said I should see a

difference)... He is totally all about taking armour so that is why I

was wondering what he thought would be the benefit of taking

both...If you can understand my ramblings..LOL please help! Thanks,

Zina

> Hi Zina and yes, we remember you, dear one. Sure glad to read you

> found a doc to prescribe Armour. Zina, Armour is not a weight loss

> pill, and for your doc to say that you would start losing weight in

> two weeks implies it. What Armour does, WHEN you find your optimal

> dose, is return your metabolism to normal, and that can take time,

> not two weeks. Then, combined with exercise and low-glycemic

eating,

> your chances of losing weight are MUCH greater!

>

> Armrou is also initially a diuretic, and you might notice that.

>

> And as far as reducing your Armour to one grain and adding the

> Synthroid, BIG MISTAKE, Zina. Tell the doc that you want to stay on

> the 2 grains Armour, and slowly increase the ARMOUR. It's the T3

and

> T2 in Armour that will help you, NOT the sole T4 in Synthroid.

>

> Armour contains T3 and T4. T3 is fairly immediate, and that is why

> you are feeling a bit better. But T4 is not immediate. It's a

> storage hormone that is meant to convert to T3. But it can take at

> least 3-4 weeks before you begin noticing the effects of the

buildup

> of the T4. SO....it's wise to stick with that 2 grains another few

> weeks. If you feel you still have symptoms of hypo, you can raise

> again--perhaps to 2 1/2 grains, and hold that a few weeks. Etc.

>

> Janie

>

>

> s > I don't know if y'all remember me...I was a ww leader and lost

> my job

> > because of weight gain because of my thyroid. I found a Dr. from

> this

> > site. After 2 yrs of having Hashimotos(or longer) and not being

> > treated..he treated me. I started on 1 grain of Armour. I took

> that

> > for 1 month....no major changes....He raised it to 2 grains...I

> have

> > been taking 2 grains now for 2 weeks. I have alot more energy

than

> I

> > did.....I haven't lost any weight....He said he thought I would

> lose

> > w/in a week to 2 weeks....I called and talked w/the nurse this

> > morning. She said(after discussing w/DR.) that she would call in

> > prescription for Synthroid and to take 1 grain of armour

> w/it...She

> > may have said 50mg of Synthroid(does that sound right??) anyway I

> am

> > suppose to call her back and let her know... do I want to

continue

> as

> > is or try this for the weightloss...What do y'all think and why

> would

> > this make a difference for me??? Thank you, Zina

[Guest guest]

Thank you so much for answering! I have been on Armour for 6 weeks

now...only on 2 grains for 2 weeks, before that I was on 1 grain for

4 weeks....my dr. said (at my last appt 2 weeks ago) that my body

made T-4 but it didn't regulate it or something like that....he also

said w/my diet that I have been on and the exercise I do that w/in a

couple of weeks (which makes a total of 6 weeks on armour) that I

should start losing(he didn't say fast, but said I should see a

difference)... He is totally all about taking armour so that is why I

was wondering what he thought would be the benefit of taking

both...If you can understand my ramblings..LOL please help! Thanks,

Zina

> Hi Zina and yes, we remember you, dear one. Sure glad to read you

> found a doc to prescribe Armour. Zina, Armour is not a weight loss

> pill, and for your doc to say that you would start losing weight in

> two weeks implies it. What Armour does, WHEN you find your optimal

> dose, is return your metabolism to normal, and that can take time,

> not two weeks. Then, combined with exercise and low-glycemic

eating,

> your chances of losing weight are MUCH greater!

>

> Armrou is also initially a diuretic, and you might notice that.

>

> And as far as reducing your Armour to one grain and adding the

> Synthroid, BIG MISTAKE, Zina. Tell the doc that you want to stay on

> the 2 grains Armour, and slowly increase the ARMOUR. It's the T3

and

> T2 in Armour that will help you, NOT the sole T4 in Synthroid.

>

> Armour contains T3 and T4. T3 is fairly immediate, and that is why

> you are feeling a bit better. But T4 is not immediate. It's a

> storage hormone that is meant to convert to T3. But it can take at

> least 3-4 weeks before you begin noticing the effects of the

buildup

> of the T4. SO....it's wise to stick with that 2 grains another few

> weeks. If you feel you still have symptoms of hypo, you can raise

> again--perhaps to 2 1/2 grains, and hold that a few weeks. Etc.

>

> Janie

>

>

> s > I don't know if y'all remember me...I was a ww leader and lost

> my job

> > because of weight gain because of my thyroid. I found a Dr. from

> this

> > site. After 2 yrs of having Hashimotos(or longer) and not being

> > treated..he treated me. I started on 1 grain of Armour. I took

> that

> > for 1 month....no major changes....He raised it to 2 grains...I

> have

> > been taking 2 grains now for 2 weeks. I have alot more energy

than

> I

> > did.....I haven't lost any weight....He said he thought I would

> lose

> > w/in a week to 2 weeks....I called and talked w/the nurse this

> > morning. She said(after discussing w/DR.) that she would call in

> > prescription for Synthroid and to take 1 grain of armour

> w/it...She

> > may have said 50mg of Synthroid(does that sound right??) anyway I

> am

> > suppose to call her back and let her know... do I want to

continue

> as

> > is or try this for the weightloss...What do y'all think and why

> would

> > this make a difference for me??? Thank you, Zina

[Guest guest]

Thank you so much for answering! I have been on Armour for 6 weeks

now...only on 2 grains for 2 weeks, before that I was on 1 grain for

4 weeks....my dr. said (at my last appt 2 weeks ago) that my body

made T-4 but it didn't regulate it or something like that....he also

said w/my diet that I have been on and the exercise I do that w/in a

couple of weeks (which makes a total of 6 weeks on armour) that I

should start losing(he didn't say fast, but said I should see a

difference)... He is totally all about taking armour so that is why I

was wondering what he thought would be the benefit of taking

both...If you can understand my ramblings..LOL please help! Thanks,

Zina

> Hi Zina and yes, we remember you, dear one. Sure glad to read you

> found a doc to prescribe Armour. Zina, Armour is not a weight loss

> pill, and for your doc to say that you would start losing weight in

> two weeks implies it. What Armour does, WHEN you find your optimal

> dose, is return your metabolism to normal, and that can take time,

> not two weeks. Then, combined with exercise and low-glycemic

eating,

> your chances of losing weight are MUCH greater!

>

> Armrou is also initially a diuretic, and you might notice that.

>

> And as far as reducing your Armour to one grain and adding the

> Synthroid, BIG MISTAKE, Zina. Tell the doc that you want to stay on

> the 2 grains Armour, and slowly increase the ARMOUR. It's the T3

and

> T2 in Armour that will help you, NOT the sole T4 in Synthroid.

>

> Armour contains T3 and T4. T3 is fairly immediate, and that is why

> you are feeling a bit better. But T4 is not immediate. It's a

> storage hormone that is meant to convert to T3. But it can take at

> least 3-4 weeks before you begin noticing the effects of the

buildup

> of the T4. SO....it's wise to stick with that 2 grains another few

> weeks. If you feel you still have symptoms of hypo, you can raise

> again--perhaps to 2 1/2 grains, and hold that a few weeks. Etc.

>

> Janie

>

>

> s > I don't know if y'all remember me...I was a ww leader and lost

> my job

> > because of weight gain because of my thyroid. I found a Dr. from

> this

> > site. After 2 yrs of having Hashimotos(or longer) and not being

> > treated..he treated me. I started on 1 grain of Armour. I took

> that

> > for 1 month....no major changes....He raised it to 2 grains...I

> have

> > been taking 2 grains now for 2 weeks. I have alot more energy

than

> I

> > did.....I haven't lost any weight....He said he thought I would

> lose

> > w/in a week to 2 weeks....I called and talked w/the nurse this

> > morning. She said(after discussing w/DR.) that she would call in

> > prescription for Synthroid and to take 1 grain of armour

> w/it...She

> > may have said 50mg of Synthroid(does that sound right??) anyway I

> am

> > suppose to call her back and let her know... do I want to

continue

> as

> > is or try this for the weightloss...What do y'all think and why

> would

> > this make a difference for me??? Thank you, Zina

[Guest guest]

Just wanted to chime in here and say that I have NEVER HEARD OF

ANYONE losing weight after only 2 weeks of thyroid meds of any kind!

I have fought my weight all of my life - probably mostly bec of a low

thyroid problem - and it has taken me months and months and months to

see any weight loss, and that is being on 2 grains of armour thyroid

a day, adding phentermine diet pills and taking myself off of birth

control pills. I have finally lost 11 lbs but it has taken more than

14 weeks to get 11 lbs off, and that was only after finally starting

to lose after being on the armour thyroid for 10 months.

And for the record, I eat around 1000 to 1200 calories a day, drink

way more than 64 oz of water a day, do a lot of walking, etc etc etc.

To lose weight with a low thyroid (in my professional opinion LOL)

takes a lot of work and time.

Shomon's books on The Thryoid Diet seem to say the same thing to

me and basically say that someone with a low thyroid (that is being

treated) should expect to lose about 1 pound a month.

sorry - just the facts as I know them - maybe others have a different

experience with their weight loss.

But I would definitely not stop taking armour thyroid to switch to a

different thyroid med! I'm thinking of buying stock in armour

thyroid myself! LOL

take care,

> In a message dated 9/27/2004 10:32:07 AM Eastern Standard Time,

> zinared@y... writes:

>

> > He raised it to 2 grains...I have

> > been taking 2 grains now for 2 weeks. I have alot more energy

than I

> > did.....I haven't lost any weight....He said he thought I would

lose

> > w/in a week to 2 weeks....I called and talked w/the nurse this

> > morning. She said(after discussing w/DR.) that she would call in

> > prescription for Synthroid and to take 1 grain of armour w/it...

>

> NOoooooo. Why don't you just up the Armour? What is your Free T3

and Free

> T4. These docs will do anything to get someone on $ynthroid.

> Cindi

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Just wanted to chime in here and say that I have NEVER HEARD OF

ANYONE losing weight after only 2 weeks of thyroid meds of any kind!

I have fought my weight all of my life - probably mostly bec of a low

thyroid problem - and it has taken me months and months and months to

see any weight loss, and that is being on 2 grains of armour thyroid

a day, adding phentermine diet pills and taking myself off of birth

control pills. I have finally lost 11 lbs but it has taken more than

14 weeks to get 11 lbs off, and that was only after finally starting

to lose after being on the armour thyroid for 10 months.

And for the record, I eat around 1000 to 1200 calories a day, drink

way more than 64 oz of water a day, do a lot of walking, etc etc etc.

To lose weight with a low thyroid (in my professional opinion LOL)

takes a lot of work and time.

Shomon's books on The Thryoid Diet seem to say the same thing to

me and basically say that someone with a low thyroid (that is being

treated) should expect to lose about 1 pound a month.

sorry - just the facts as I know them - maybe others have a different

experience with their weight loss.

But I would definitely not stop taking armour thyroid to switch to a

different thyroid med! I'm thinking of buying stock in armour

thyroid myself! LOL

take care,

> In a message dated 9/27/2004 10:32:07 AM Eastern Standard Time,

> zinared@y... writes:

>

> > He raised it to 2 grains...I have

> > been taking 2 grains now for 2 weeks. I have alot more energy

than I

> > did.....I haven't lost any weight....He said he thought I would

lose

> > w/in a week to 2 weeks....I called and talked w/the nurse this

> > morning. She said(after discussing w/DR.) that she would call in

> > prescription for Synthroid and to take 1 grain of armour w/it...

>

> NOoooooo. Why don't you just up the Armour? What is your Free T3

and Free

> T4. These docs will do anything to get someone on $ynthroid.

> Cindi

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Just wanted to chime in here and say that I have NEVER HEARD OF

ANYONE losing weight after only 2 weeks of thyroid meds of any kind!

I have fought my weight all of my life - probably mostly bec of a low

thyroid problem - and it has taken me months and months and months to

see any weight loss, and that is being on 2 grains of armour thyroid

a day, adding phentermine diet pills and taking myself off of birth

control pills. I have finally lost 11 lbs but it has taken more than

14 weeks to get 11 lbs off, and that was only after finally starting

to lose after being on the armour thyroid for 10 months.

And for the record, I eat around 1000 to 1200 calories a day, drink

way more than 64 oz of water a day, do a lot of walking, etc etc etc.

To lose weight with a low thyroid (in my professional opinion LOL)

takes a lot of work and time.

Shomon's books on The Thryoid Diet seem to say the same thing to

me and basically say that someone with a low thyroid (that is being

treated) should expect to lose about 1 pound a month.

sorry - just the facts as I know them - maybe others have a different

experience with their weight loss.

But I would definitely not stop taking armour thyroid to switch to a

different thyroid med! I'm thinking of buying stock in armour

thyroid myself! LOL

take care,

> In a message dated 9/27/2004 10:32:07 AM Eastern Standard Time,

> zinared@y... writes:

>

> > He raised it to 2 grains...I have

> > been taking 2 grains now for 2 weeks. I have alot more energy

than I

> > did.....I haven't lost any weight....He said he thought I would

lose

> > w/in a week to 2 weeks....I called and talked w/the nurse this

> > morning. She said(after discussing w/DR.) that she would call in

> > prescription for Synthroid and to take 1 grain of armour w/it...

>

> NOoooooo. Why don't you just up the Armour? What is your Free T3

and Free

> T4. These docs will do anything to get someone on $ynthroid.

> Cindi

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Hi Zina. Hmmm. Can't figure out what your Doc was trying to tell

you, but know this: your thyroid makes T4, T3, T2, T1 and

calcitonin. Armour gives you the exact same hormones! Synthroid, on

the other hand, ONLY gives you T4, which is a storage hormone. That

is ONE of the reasons why Synthroid, by itself, doesn't work well,

and ESPECIALLY for weight loss. Synthroid doesn't directly give you

any of the others!! You will get plenty of T4 in the Armour, PLUS

the other important direct hormones.

Don't look at your doc as if he knows all. Docs do NOT know all. And

when it comes to thyroid, they are SORELY ignorant. Patients have

become FAR more knowledgeable when it comes to thyroid and

medications.

Yes, if you stay on the Armour, and work to find that optimal dose,

you will lose weight. Remember that the optimal dose will put your

free T3 at the top of the range, if not over, and your TSH will be

suppressed.

Janie

(

> Thank you so much for answering! I have been on Armour for 6 weeks

> now...only on 2 grains for 2 weeks, before that I was on 1 grain

for

> 4 weeks....my dr. said (at my last appt 2 weeks ago) that my body

> made T-4 but it didn't regulate it or something like that....he

also

> said w/my diet that I have been on and the exercise I do that w/in

a

> couple of weeks (which makes a total of 6 weeks on armour) that I

> should start losing(he didn't say fast, but said I should see a

> difference)... He is totally all about taking armour so that is

why I

> was wondering what he thought would be the benefit of taking

> both...If you can understand my ramblings..LOL please help!

Thanks,

> Zina

>

[Guest guest]

Hi Zina. Hmmm. Can't figure out what your Doc was trying to tell

you, but know this: your thyroid makes T4, T3, T2, T1 and

calcitonin. Armour gives you the exact same hormones! Synthroid, on

the other hand, ONLY gives you T4, which is a storage hormone. That

is ONE of the reasons why Synthroid, by itself, doesn't work well,

and ESPECIALLY for weight loss. Synthroid doesn't directly give you

any of the others!! You will get plenty of T4 in the Armour, PLUS

the other important direct hormones.

Don't look at your doc as if he knows all. Docs do NOT know all. And

when it comes to thyroid, they are SORELY ignorant. Patients have

become FAR more knowledgeable when it comes to thyroid and

medications.

Yes, if you stay on the Armour, and work to find that optimal dose,

you will lose weight. Remember that the optimal dose will put your

free T3 at the top of the range, if not over, and your TSH will be

suppressed.

Janie

(

> Thank you so much for answering! I have been on Armour for 6 weeks

> now...only on 2 grains for 2 weeks, before that I was on 1 grain

for

> 4 weeks....my dr. said (at my last appt 2 weeks ago) that my body

> made T-4 but it didn't regulate it or something like that....he

also

> said w/my diet that I have been on and the exercise I do that w/in

a

> couple of weeks (which makes a total of 6 weeks on armour) that I

> should start losing(he didn't say fast, but said I should see a

> difference)... He is totally all about taking armour so that is

why I

> was wondering what he thought would be the benefit of taking

> both...If you can understand my ramblings..LOL please help!

Thanks,

> Zina

>

[Guest guest]

Hi Zina. Hmmm. Can't figure out what your Doc was trying to tell

you, but know this: your thyroid makes T4, T3, T2, T1 and

calcitonin. Armour gives you the exact same hormones! Synthroid, on

the other hand, ONLY gives you T4, which is a storage hormone. That

is ONE of the reasons why Synthroid, by itself, doesn't work well,

and ESPECIALLY for weight loss. Synthroid doesn't directly give you

any of the others!! You will get plenty of T4 in the Armour, PLUS

the other important direct hormones.

Don't look at your doc as if he knows all. Docs do NOT know all. And

when it comes to thyroid, they are SORELY ignorant. Patients have

become FAR more knowledgeable when it comes to thyroid and

medications.

Yes, if you stay on the Armour, and work to find that optimal dose,

you will lose weight. Remember that the optimal dose will put your

free T3 at the top of the range, if not over, and your TSH will be

suppressed.

Janie

(

> Thank you so much for answering! I have been on Armour for 6 weeks

> now...only on 2 grains for 2 weeks, before that I was on 1 grain

for

> 4 weeks....my dr. said (at my last appt 2 weeks ago) that my body

> made T-4 but it didn't regulate it or something like that....he

also

> said w/my diet that I have been on and the exercise I do that w/in

a

> couple of weeks (which makes a total of 6 weeks on armour) that I

> should start losing(he didn't say fast, but said I should see a

> difference)... He is totally all about taking armour so that is

why I

> was wondering what he thought would be the benefit of taking

> both...If you can understand my ramblings..LOL please help!

Thanks,

> Zina

>

[Guest guest]

In a message dated 9/27/2004 5:35:13 PM Eastern Standard Time,

saltillo@... writes:

> This is just my personal opinion, but if you got up to 3 grains, I

> think your life would change dramatically. It did for me and I lost

> weight, too.

>

chiming in...i started losing the weight at 3 1/2 grains.

cindi

[Guest guest]

In a message dated 9/27/2004 5:35:13 PM Eastern Standard Time,

saltillo@... writes:

> This is just my personal opinion, but if you got up to 3 grains, I

> think your life would change dramatically. It did for me and I lost

> weight, too.

>

chiming in...i started losing the weight at 3 1/2 grains.

cindi

[Guest guest]

In a message dated 9/27/2004 5:35:13 PM Eastern Standard Time,

saltillo@... writes:

> This is just my personal opinion, but if you got up to 3 grains, I

> think your life would change dramatically. It did for me and I lost

> weight, too.

>

chiming in...i started losing the weight at 3 1/2 grains.

cindi

[Guest guest]

> was wondering what he thought would be the benefit of taking

> both...If you can understand my ramblings..LOL please help!

Thanks,

> Zina

_______________

I can't think of one. I think that would give you a lower thyroid

dose since about 74 mcg Synthroid is equal to 1 grain of Armour.

So, it seems to me he is lowering your overall dose. Especially if

you want to loose weight, you need to make sure you have good levels

of T3.

This is just my personal opinion, but if you got up to 3 grains, I

think your life would change dramatically. It did for me and I lost

weight, too.

Tish

[Guest guest]

> was wondering what he thought would be the benefit of taking

> both...If you can understand my ramblings..LOL please help!

Thanks,

> Zina

_______________

I can't think of one. I think that would give you a lower thyroid

dose since about 74 mcg Synthroid is equal to 1 grain of Armour.

So, it seems to me he is lowering your overall dose. Especially if

you want to loose weight, you need to make sure you have good levels

of T3.

This is just my personal opinion, but if you got up to 3 grains, I

think your life would change dramatically. It did for me and I lost

weight, too.

Tish

[Guest guest]

I hear ya! and I'm thinkin about it!

I was was trying to get myself off of birth control pills for 3

months before doing anything different - just trying to figure out

what exactly is affecting what!

and then will probably have the Free T3 and Free T4 run and see what

the numbers are.

thanks!

> In a message dated 9/27/2004 5:35:13 PM Eastern Standard Time,

> saltillo@g... writes:

>

> > This is just my personal opinion, but if you got up to 3 grains,

I

> > think your life would change dramatically. It did for me and I

lost

> > weight, too.

> >

>

> chiming in...i started losing the weight at 3 1/2 grains.

> cindi

>

>

>