Guest guest Posted August 2, 2004 Report Share Posted August 2, 2004 Stacey: Hi! I don't mean to butt in, but I seen your posts on METHADONE!!! I have been taking Methadone for pain now for almost 4 years now. When I first started taking it, I felt so bad from all the side effects, ( But I was on a higher dose). So my doctor backed off the dosage and I was able to take it. As of right now, I take 40 mgs 4 to 5 times a day for RSD. Believe me it is the BEST DRUG I have ever taken for the RSD PAIN. My doctor won't take me off of it. In stead he will just increase the dosage. My doctor told me that you don't get a high from this drug, and he is right! You don't feel the narcotic feeling, like you are in another world. (DIZZY and ALL) Ha! But I just wanted to tell you that this is a very good medicine for RSD pain. I will never go off of it, and I am not addicted to it. You can't get addicted to this med, yeah it is Heroin, but not the same as the real drug. I swear by it for the pain, it is the BEST for pain control. I am going to the doctor today about my break-thru pain, I have taken the fentanyl patch but I started itching so bad, that I had to stop. Has anyone ever taken DEMAROL (sp?) for the pain? I am wondering!! My doctor wants me to think about the MORPHINE PUMP, but I am scared to have this done, because I can't fight infections, I have no spleen. I hope you have a pain free day! JanetMOLLYPEAR1@... wrote: HI I have a question. Has anyone taken methadone for rsd pain? if so how was it or is it? I thought methadone was for junkies. Stacey Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 2, 2004 Report Share Posted August 2, 2004 Janet, I was reading your response about the methadone - I agree, it is the best thing I've had so far. I'm still in a great deal of pain but it is better than the Oxycontin. I saw that your doctor wants you to consider a morphine pump, but you are worried because you can't fight infections. I had asked my doctor about this option and he told me that the morphine pump was no better than taking the pill, but the complications from surgery are way more than the actual benefit from the pump. He said they use it mostly for people who cannot take the oral pill for whatever reason, but it offered the same relief. If you can't fight off infections I would give it some serious thought and ask some more questions about it....just a thought.<hugs> Lori Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 3, 2004 Report Share Posted August 3, 2004 -------Original Message------- .. Has anyone ever taken DEMAROL (sp?) for the pain? I am wondering!! Janet========================================================== Janet, Demerol is GREAT when given as an injection.....whenever I would get a flare, that is what I would get in the ER. But, Demerol is being banned in all ER's because the Dope Addicts are enjoying the immediate Highs they get from it. Tonia ____________________________________________________ IncrediMail - Email has finally evolved - Click Here Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 3, 2004 Report Share Posted August 3, 2004 Demerol by injection can be really helpful but it's my understanding that in order for it to be effective when taken orally that you need much higher doses. Barbaraiowa97 wrote: -------Original Message------- .. Has anyone ever taken DEMAROL (sp?) for the pain? I am wondering!! Janet========================================================== Janet, Demerol is GREAT when given as an injection.....whenever I would get a flare, that is what I would get in the ER. But, Demerol is being banned in all ER's because the Dope Addicts are enjoying the immediate Highs they get from it. Tonia ____________________________________________________ IncrediMail - Email has finally evolved - Click Here Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 3, 2004 Report Share Posted August 3, 2004 Methadone can be a really helpful pain med. It's a synthetic narcotic (yes your body can become dependent on it) that acts to relieve pain without giving a "high." They use it also for narcotic addictions because it is a narcotic antagonist (acts against heroin and other opoid substances). BarbaraJanet Underwood wrote: Stacey: Hi! I don't mean to butt in, but I seen your posts on METHADONE!!! I have been taking Methadone for pain now for almost 4 years now. When I first started taking it, I felt so bad from all the side effects, ( But I was on a higher dose). So my doctor backed off the dosage and I was able to take it. As of right now, I take 40 mgs 4 to 5 times a day for RSD. Believe me it is the BEST DRUG I have ever taken for the RSD PAIN. My doctor won't take me off of it. In stead he will just increase the dosage. My doctor told me that you don't get a high from this drug, and he is right! You don't feel the narcotic feeling, like you are in another world. (DIZZY and ALL) Ha! But I just wanted to tell you that this is a very good medicine for RSD pain. I will never go off of it, and I am not addicted to it. You can't get addicted to this med, yeah it is Heroin, but not the same as the real drug. I swear by it for the pain, it is the BEST for pain control. I am going to the docto! r today about my break-thru pain, I have taken the fentanyl patch but I started itching so bad, that I had to stop. Has anyone ever taken DEMAROL (sp?) for the pain? I am wondering!! My doctor wants me to think about the MORPHINE PUMP, but I am scared to have this done, because I can't fight infections, I have no spleen. I hope you have a pain free day! JanetMOLLYPEAR1@... wrote: HI I have a question. Has anyone taken methadone for rsd pain? if so how was it or is it? I thought methadone was for junkies. Stacey Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 3, 2004 Report Share Posted August 3, 2004 Lori: Hi! I seen my doctor yesterday about the Morphine Pump, I have been trying to convince him that the pump is not good for me. Years ago, after my first daughter was born I developed a blood disease, called ITP for short. Problems with platelets. I had to have the spleen removed. Ever since then I have had trouble with sickness and injuries and infections. It seems I get everything now, can't fiqure this out. But anyway, I finally have talked him out of the Morphine Pump, I cannot fight infections, and he even said that is was possible that when they put the lead in the spinal cord, that I could have one hell of a infection. No way, I almost died from the spinal cord stimulator, I was told I would have no trouble. Instead I had a horrible time, with a fever 103 degrees and they let me out of the hospital with this fever and I had to go to my doctor just to get better. I had pneumonia and this is one thing I can NEVER have with no spleen. So I guess you are on Methadone also, and it does good for you, that is great. He put me on Loracet for the break-thru pain, I have been on this for over a year, but have not had them for sometime now, maybe this time it will work. Sure hope so, I am so tired of taking meds. My teeth are falling out because of the meds, keep my mouth dry. I now have to have dentures and now I am looking out surgery in my mouth. I have to be in the hospital so they can pull them all out together. I will be very very sick, I am NOT looking forward to this. JanetAlwayzLoRi@... wrote: Janet, I was reading your response about the methadone - I agree, it is the best thing I've had so far. I'm still in a great deal of pain but it is better than the Oxycontin. I saw that your doctor wants you to consider a morphine pump, but you are worried because you can't fight infections. I had asked my doctor about this option and he told me that the morphine pump was no better than taking the pill, but the complications from surgery are way more than the actual benefit from the pump. He said they use it mostly for people who cannot take the oral pill for whatever reason, but it offered the same relief. If you can't fight off infections I would give it some serious thought and ask some more questions about it....just a thought.<hugs> Lori Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 20, 2004 Report Share Posted August 20, 2004 In a message dated 8/20/2004 2:19:05 PM Eastern Standard Time, tigger57ri@... writes: > I've been self treating. I'm hoping to get into see a new doc and was > wondering how I explain that I've been self treating and feel better on thyroid > meds. > Go to a new doctor...when they ask about your prescriptions, tell them you take Armour...that you had had a high TSH at last testing...no need to mention you put yourself on the prescription. Cindi Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 20, 2004 Report Share Posted August 20, 2004 In a message dated 8/20/2004 3:30:53 PM Eastern Standard Time, saltillo@... writes: > I had TSH of 2.4 > for years and was hypo. Nobody bothered to do a T4 and T3 test, or > any other investigation. yep..same here...for 15 years I was over 2...and hypo. cindi Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 20, 2004 Report Share Posted August 20, 2004 In a message dated 8/20/2004 3:30:53 PM Eastern Standard Time, saltillo@... writes: > I had TSH of 2.4 > for years and was hypo. Nobody bothered to do a T4 and T3 test, or > any other investigation. yep..same here...for 15 years I was over 2...and hypo. cindi Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 20, 2004 Report Share Posted August 20, 2004 > I've been self treating. I'm hoping to get into see a new doc and >was wondering how I explain that I've been self treating and feel >better on thyroid meds. Often, you don't need to explain anything. Just tell the new doc that you are on such-and-such amount of Armour and have been so for awhile and are doing great.........or that you have been so for awhile but need to try a bit more........etc. > I totally wasted my time earlier today at a docs office. She >spoke to me like I was a complete idiot. When I told her I've been >highly symptomatic of hypo and told her my TSH was 3.3, she said >that was fine and she wouldn't treat me either for thyroid. " Complete idiot " could not have described this bimbo better!! Janie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 20, 2004 Report Share Posted August 20, 2004 In a message dated 8/20/2004 5:12:35 PM Eastern Standard Time, kirkland@... writes: > In April, an Endo told me that T3 > was a narcotic, that I was addicted and that I would need to wean off > slowly b/c I wouldn't be able to handle sudenly stopping it. > hehe...well, the difference it makes in how I feel....well, I suppose it is like a narcotic to me. Cindi Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 20, 2004 Report Share Posted August 20, 2004 If you were in Houston, I'd think we have the same Endo. I went to this woman who is on the top doc list on 's site, and what a joke. I've never been talked down to like that in my life for self medicating. I wanted to punch her square in her nose! lol. I honestly don't think I've ever felt as brow beaten as I did on our first appt. She was furious that I was taking Armour, and on how I'd gained the bottle of it. You'd have thought I was a child in a candy store who just couldn't resist and she was a warden. I had honestly decided that she just liked hearing herself talk as she told me I had no business taking such a drug, and told me how 'unstable' it was, blah blah. I'm not sure it's a noble gesture to actually admit that you're self medicating. You've never heard the likes of the ranting and raving this dr did when I was honest about how I obtain it. She demanded to know how I got that prescription. Then I was informed that it was illegal to get this drug this way. She then told me that drug addicts would love to see Cocaine be legal, but it's just not good for us? I never could figure out the correlation between Cocaine and Armour Thyroid? Unless she determined that I am taking Armour just to 'feel good' without good reason. SandyE~Houston Original Message: ----------------- From: Tigger tigger57ri@... Date: Fri, 20 Aug 2004 14:18:28 -0400 To: thyroid , NaturalThyroidHormones Subject: Question <html><body> <tt> I've been self treating. I'm hoping to get into see a new doc and was wondering how I explain that I've been self treating and feel better on thyroid meds. <BR> <BR> I totally wasted my time earlier today at a docs office. She spoke to me like I was a complete idiot. When I told her I've been highly symptomatic of hypo and told her my TSH was 3.3, she said that was fine and she wouldn't treat me either for thyroid. I also saw her because I have fallen numerous times and am concerned about that, however, I believe it's a part of the fibromyalgia that I have.<BR> <BR> As usual, I'm open for any thoughts.<BR> Hugs,<BR> Tigger<BR> <BR> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 20, 2004 Report Share Posted August 20, 2004 > As usual, I'm open for any thoughts. > Hugs, > Tigger I get so mad when I hear about doctors like that. I had TSH of 2.4 for years and was hypo. Nobody bothered to do a T4 and T3 test, or any other investigation. My TSH was 3.0 when I had practically no T4 in my blood. I regret I didn't treat myself 8 years ago. I would have been so much better off. Instead, I trusted those stupid cruel doctors. So when I finally got treatment, it caused me so much suffering from the years of low thyroid and low adrenal. I could have avoided major surgery had I had treatment early on. There was an excellent Life Extension Magazine article about a year ago on research showing how people with TSH above 2.0 go on to get overt hypothyroidism within the next 10 to 20 years. There is plenty of evidence supporting early treatment rather than waiting untill it fully develops. In fact treating early reduces the amount of auto- antibodies that develop. They tend to get worse as it is allowed to continue. Also, if the thyroid problem is auto-immune related, which most women's are, treating early can actually cure the person after 6-8 years because it lowers auto-antibodies so much that they loose the message to attack. I have run across people on the tropical traditions coconut oil newsgroup who have been treating themselves for years and years and are doing just fine. They just use symptoms. Tish Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 20, 2004 Report Share Posted August 20, 2004 > As usual, I'm open for any thoughts. > Hugs, > Tigger I get so mad when I hear about doctors like that. I had TSH of 2.4 for years and was hypo. Nobody bothered to do a T4 and T3 test, or any other investigation. My TSH was 3.0 when I had practically no T4 in my blood. I regret I didn't treat myself 8 years ago. I would have been so much better off. Instead, I trusted those stupid cruel doctors. So when I finally got treatment, it caused me so much suffering from the years of low thyroid and low adrenal. I could have avoided major surgery had I had treatment early on. There was an excellent Life Extension Magazine article about a year ago on research showing how people with TSH above 2.0 go on to get overt hypothyroidism within the next 10 to 20 years. There is plenty of evidence supporting early treatment rather than waiting untill it fully develops. In fact treating early reduces the amount of auto- antibodies that develop. They tend to get worse as it is allowed to continue. Also, if the thyroid problem is auto-immune related, which most women's are, treating early can actually cure the person after 6-8 years because it lowers auto-antibodies so much that they loose the message to attack. I have run across people on the tropical traditions coconut oil newsgroup who have been treating themselves for years and years and are doing just fine. They just use symptoms. Tish Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 20, 2004 Report Share Posted August 20, 2004 She then told me that drug addicts would love to see Cocaine be legal, but it's just not good for us? I never could figure out the correlation between Cocaine and Armour Thyroid? Unless she determined that I am taking Armour just to 'feel good' without good reason. SandyE~Houston Hey.maybe we should start snorting the amour! LOL nne Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 20, 2004 Report Share Posted August 20, 2004 Just go to a new doc and tell them you are on Armour and it's doing great. Don't mention that you did it yourself. He/She will assume some doc prescribed it. If they ask which doc put you on it, say, " hmmmmmmmm, you know, I can't remember! " Blessings, Debbie K. Question I've been self treating. I'm hoping to get into see a new doc and was wondering how I explain that I've been self treating and feel better on thyroid meds. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 20, 2004 Report Share Posted August 20, 2004 Just go to a new doc and tell them you are on Armour and it's doing great. Don't mention that you did it yourself. He/She will assume some doc prescribed it. If they ask which doc put you on it, say, " hmmmmmmmm, you know, I can't remember! " Blessings, Debbie K. Question I've been self treating. I'm hoping to get into see a new doc and was wondering how I explain that I've been self treating and feel better on thyroid meds. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 20, 2004 Report Share Posted August 20, 2004 You may not remember me telling this. In April, an Endo told me that T3 was a narcotic, that I was addicted and that I would need to wean off slowly b/c I wouldn't be able to handle sudenly stopping it. stupid....stupid....stupid!!!! Blessings, Debbie K. RE: Question She then told me that drug addicts would love to see Cocaine be legal, but it's just not good for us? I never could figure out the correlation between Cocaine and Armour Thyroid? Unless she determined that I am taking Armour just to 'feel good' without good reason. SandyE~Houston Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 20, 2004 Report Share Posted August 20, 2004 You may not remember me telling this. In April, an Endo told me that T3 was a narcotic, that I was addicted and that I would need to wean off slowly b/c I wouldn't be able to handle sudenly stopping it. stupid....stupid....stupid!!!! Blessings, Debbie K. RE: Question She then told me that drug addicts would love to see Cocaine be legal, but it's just not good for us? I never could figure out the correlation between Cocaine and Armour Thyroid? Unless she determined that I am taking Armour just to 'feel good' without good reason. SandyE~Houston Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 20, 2004 Report Share Posted August 20, 2004 ahahahahaha. Well, if that is the case, then we are hooked! Where on earth do these dr's get their info from? I mentioned to my pcp the other day when I had bloodwork done that I was so disgusted with Endo's who look at TSH, determine it's the only important thing on the menu and dose me with that. She listened intently (maybe a good sign) cuz I'm just not sure I'm going to line one more Endo's pocketbook with my hard earned money or my insurance money. Unbeliveable! I'm glad you reposted this Debbie, cuz I apparently did not see this when it was originally posted! What humor these Endo's have! heh. SandyE~Houston RE: Question She then told me that drug addicts would love to see Cocaine be legal, but it's just not good for us? I never could figure out the correlation between Cocaine and Armour Thyroid? Unless she determined that I am taking Armour just to 'feel good' without good reason. SandyE~Houston Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 20, 2004 Report Share Posted August 20, 2004 ahahahahaha. Well, if that is the case, then we are hooked! Where on earth do these dr's get their info from? I mentioned to my pcp the other day when I had bloodwork done that I was so disgusted with Endo's who look at TSH, determine it's the only important thing on the menu and dose me with that. She listened intently (maybe a good sign) cuz I'm just not sure I'm going to line one more Endo's pocketbook with my hard earned money or my insurance money. Unbeliveable! I'm glad you reposted this Debbie, cuz I apparently did not see this when it was originally posted! What humor these Endo's have! heh. SandyE~Houston RE: Question She then told me that drug addicts would love to see Cocaine be legal, but it's just not good for us? I never could figure out the correlation between Cocaine and Armour Thyroid? Unless she determined that I am taking Armour just to 'feel good' without good reason. SandyE~Houston Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 20, 2004 Report Share Posted August 20, 2004 SnOrT & OiNk! lol. :-) SandyE~Houston RE: Question She then told me that drug addicts would love to see Cocaine be legal, but it's just not good for us? I never could figure out the correlation between Cocaine and Armour Thyroid? Unless she determined that I am taking Armour just to 'feel good' without good reason. SandyE~Houston Hey.maybe we should start snorting the amour! LOL nne Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 20, 2004 Report Share Posted August 20, 2004 SnOrT & OiNk! lol. :-) SandyE~Houston RE: Question She then told me that drug addicts would love to see Cocaine be legal, but it's just not good for us? I never could figure out the correlation between Cocaine and Armour Thyroid? Unless she determined that I am taking Armour just to 'feel good' without good reason. SandyE~Houston Hey.maybe we should start snorting the amour! LOL nne Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 20, 2004 Report Share Posted August 20, 2004 SnOrT & OiNk! lol. :-) SandyE~Houston RE: Question She then told me that drug addicts would love to see Cocaine be legal, but it's just not good for us? I never could figure out the correlation between Cocaine and Armour Thyroid? Unless she determined that I am taking Armour just to 'feel good' without good reason. SandyE~Houston Hey.maybe we should start snorting the amour! LOL nne Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 20, 2004 Report Share Posted August 20, 2004 A narcotic! If it is a narcotic, then the doc would have to list his/her D.E.A. number on the form. Why would a hormone be a narcotic? Is synthroid a narcotic? I thought Armour came from pigs. Is bacon a narcotic? Is that why people like sausage so much? I am feeling obnoxious. Peg RE: Question You may not remember me telling this. In April, an Endo told me that T3 was a narcotic, that I was addicted and that I would need to wean off slowly b/c I wouldn't be able to handle sudenly stopping it. stupid....stupid....stupid!!!! Blessings, Debbie K. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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