Re: Scared in Florida

July 26, 2006

LOL! Sorry you had to experience that; but the way you said it was

hilarious! An instant enema!

W

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R.D. Abernathy wrote:

> Nope. However, I had an apple today and let's just say if you need an instant

enema, the apple will do it. As the saying goes, " An apple a day will keep the

doctor away. "

>

July 26, 2006

I'm going to have to try that. I have the chocolate protein powder

and put bananas in it. Where did you get the strawberry? They told

me that I have to find a powder that has at least 21 grams of

protein and less than 110

calories.

> > > > > >>

> > > > > >> Jessie,

> > > > > >> I am so very sorry you have had such a hard time. I

> wish

> > > you

> > > > > > had hit

> > > > > >> those kids at your old job with your car! Are you

still

> > > haveing

> > > > > > problems

> > > > > >> now? Welcome to the group, I really look forward to

> > hearing

> > > that

> > > > > > your doing

> > > > > >> better. Take care.

> > > > > >>

> > > > > >> Mike T

> > > > > >>

> > > > > >> Scared in Florida

> > > > > >>

> > > > > >> > Hi I'm new to the group and was glad to find a

group

> > that

> > > has

> > > > > > been

> > > > > >> > through or going through the same as me. I had my

WLS

> > > 5/4/06

> > > > and

> > > > > > had a

> > > > > >> > hard time from the get go. I new that there would

be

> > pain

> > > but

> > > > > > nothing

> > > > > >> > like that. For the first few days my husband had to

> > help me

> > > out

> > > > > > of bed

> > > > > >> > and take care of our 3 kids and all the household

> > stuff. I

> > > went

> > > > > > to

> > > > > >> > work 3 weeks after surgey. There a couple of new

kids

> > that

> > > the

> > > > > > manager

> > > > > >> > hired put salt in my water after I just taken

mylanta

> > and

> > > got

> > > > > > horribly

> > > > > >> > sick. So I quit there. Went to go see my uncle in

> Texas

> > > (heart

> > > > > > attack)

> > > > > >> > and started throwing up blood and was admitted to

the

> > > hospital

> > > > > > for 2

> > > > > >> > weeks with a bleeding ulcer. Got back home and

> couldn't

> > keep

> > > > > > anything

> > > > > >> > down not even my meds and now I have to have a EGD-

> > dilation

> > > > done

> > > > > >> > because of a stricture. My husband doesn't really

> > > understand

> > > > how

> > > > > > I

> > > > > >> > feel and I know he tries but its not the same as

> > talking to

> > > > > > someone

> > > > > >> > who has had WLS. I knew that there were risks in

> having

> > the

> > > WLS

> > > > > > done

> > > > > >> > but I didn't realize that I would get hit by them

all

> > at

> > > once.

> > > > > > Thanks

> > > > > >> > for reading Jessie

> > > > > >> >

> > > > > >> > We are a very active support group.

> > > > > >> > If the email becomes overwhelming,

> > > > > >> > please change your setting to NO EMAIL!

> > > > > >> > Please contact Group Creator

> > > > > >> > Robyn@

> > > > > >> >

July 26, 2006

Oh I know how you feel. I had the same experience with watermelon. My

mother-in-law has WLS last year and I was horrified to se her eat chocolate

cupcakes with extra chocolate frosting. I got sick for her just watching. And

she would devour peach after peach--I ended up leaving the house all together.

" R.D. Abernathy " wrote: Nope. However, I had

an apple today and let's just say if you need an instant enema, the apple will

do it. As the saying goes, " An apple a day will keep the doctor away. "

Scared in Florida

> > > >>

> > > >> > Hi I'm new to the group and was glad to find a group

that

> has

> > > > been

> > > >> > through or going through the same as me. I had my WLS

> 5/4/06

> > and

> > > > had a

> > > >> > hard time from the get go. I new that there would be

pain

> but

> > > > nothing

> > > >> > like that. For the first few days my husband had to

help me

> out

> > > > of bed

> > > >> > and take care of our 3 kids and all the household

stuff. I

> went

> > > > to

> > > >> > work 3 weeks after surgey. There a couple of new kids

that

> the

> > > > manager

> > > >> > hired put salt in my water after I just taken mylanta

and

> got

> > > > horribly

> > > >> > sick. So I quit there. Went to go see my uncle in Texas

> (heart

> > > > attack)

> > > >> > and started throwing up blood and was admitted to the

> hospital

> > > > for 2

> > > >> > weeks with a bleeding ulcer. Got back home and couldn't

keep

> > > > anything

> > > >> > down not even my meds and now I have to have a EGD-

dilation

> > done

> > > >> > because of a stricture. My husband doesn't really

> understand

> > how

> > > > I

> > > >> > feel and I know he tries but its not the same as

talking to

> > > > someone

> > > >> > who has had WLS. I knew that there were risks in having

the

> WLS

> > > > done

> > > >> > but I didn't realize that I would get hit by them all

at

> once.

> > > > Thanks

> > > >> > for reading Jessie

> > > >> >

> > > >> > We are a very active support group.

> > > >> > If the email becomes overwhelming,

> > > >> > please change your setting to NO EMAIL!

> > > >> > Please contact Group Creator

> > > >> > Robyn@

> > > >> >

July 26, 2006

Hi Chele,

I am going through the University of Michigan program. The surgeon is

Birkmeyer. I still have to go through the nutritional

consultations and the psych evals, plus get insurance approval. My

first meeting is next Tuesday. I don't have a date yet, but hopefully

this will all go fairly quickly. The absolute earliest is 5 weeks, but

with my luck it will be more like 5 months.

Are veggies like broccoli and corn OK after several months post-op? I

know there are issues with brocoli causing gas, but is it too fibrous

for the pouch? Broccoli, corn and squash are my favorites.

in MI

My surgeon's

> > group tells

> > > patients not to drink carbonated beverages

> >

> === message truncated ===

>

> __________________________________________________

>

July 26, 2006

I'm only 3 monhs post op and can't tell you how veggies act on my somach--I'm to

scared to tell you the truth.Military paid for mine and it was kinda rushed

cause my gallbladder was riddled with gallstones. The one thing that sticks out

the most in my mind about the whole process was the psych eval. We had to pay

$350 for that and all it was for me was a 10 minute conversation with a doc and

30 minutes on a computer answering true false questions! The only thing that I

could think was that I could have talked on the phone with the doc and done the

answers online at home and saved a 45 minute drive and would only have been out

$50. Go figure.

W wrote: Hi Chele,

I am going through the University of Michigan program. The surgeon is

Birkmeyer. I still have to go through the nutritional

consultations and the psych evals, plus get insurance approval. My

first meeting is next Tuesday. I don't have a date yet, but hopefully

this will all go fairly quickly. The absolute earliest is 5 weeks, but

with my luck it will be more like 5 months.

Are veggies like broccoli and corn OK after several months post-op? I

know there are issues with brocoli causing gas, but is it too fibrous

for the pouch? Broccoli, corn and squash are my favorites.

in MI

My surgeon's

> > group tells

> > > patients not to drink carbonated beverages

> >

> === message truncated ===

>

> __________________________________________________

>

July 26, 2006

I got it at the vitamin store, but GNC carries it also (for alot

more$) It has 100 calories and 23 grams of protein... I'll see if I

can't find the brand!

> > > > > > >>

> > > > > > >> Jessie,

> > > > > > >> I am so very sorry you have had such a hard time. I

> > wish

> > > > you

> > > > > > > had hit

> > > > > > >> those kids at your old job with your car! Are you

> still

> > > > haveing

> > > > > > > problems

> > > > > > >> now? Welcome to the group, I really look forward to

> > > hearing

> > > > that

> > > > > > > your doing

> > > > > > >> better. Take care.

> > > > > > >>

> > > > > > >> Mike T

> > > > > > >>

> > > > > > >> Scared in Florida

> > > > > > >>

> > > > > > >> > Hi I'm new to the group and was glad to find a

> group

> > > that

> > > > has

> > > > > > > been

> > > > > > >> > through or going through the same as me. I had my

> WLS

> > > > 5/4/06

> > > > > and

> > > > > > > had a

> > > > > > >> > hard time from the get go. I new that there would

> be

> > > pain

> > > > but

> > > > > > > nothing

> > > > > > >> > like that. For the first few days my husband had

to

> > > help me

> > > > out

> > > > > > > of bed

> > > > > > >> > and take care of our 3 kids and all the household

> > > stuff. I

> > > > went

> > > > > > > to

> > > > > > >> > work 3 weeks after surgey. There a couple of new

> kids

> > > that

> > > > the

> > > > > > > manager

> > > > > > >> > hired put salt in my water after I just taken

> mylanta

> > > and

> > > > got

> > > > > > > horribly

> > > > > > >> > sick. So I quit there. Went to go see my uncle in

> > Texas

> > > > (heart

> > > > > > > attack)

> > > > > > >> > and started throwing up blood and was admitted to

> the

> > > > hospital

> > > > > > > for 2

> > > > > > >> > weeks with a bleeding ulcer. Got back home and

> > couldn't

> > > keep

> > > > > > > anything

> > > > > > >> > down not even my meds and now I have to have a

EGD-

> > > dilation

> > > > > done

> > > > > > >> > because of a stricture. My husband doesn't really

> > > > understand

> > > > > how

> > > > > > > I

> > > > > > >> > feel and I know he tries but its not the same as

> > > talking to

> > > > > > > someone

> > > > > > >> > who has had WLS. I knew that there were risks in

> > having

> > > the

> > > > WLS

> > > > > > > done

> > > > > > >> > but I didn't realize that I would get hit by them

> all

> > > at

> > > > once.

> > > > > > > Thanks

> > > > > > >> > for reading Jessie

> > > > > > >> >

> > > > > > >> > We are a very active support group.

> > > > > > >> > If the email becomes overwhelming,

> > > > > > >> > please change your setting to NO EMAIL!

> > > > > > >> > Please contact Group Creator

> > > > > > >> > Robyn@

> > > > > > >> >

July 27, 2006

My surgeon basically told a group of us (at 3 months post-op) that we

could eat virtually anything we wanted. This was a warning more than

bragging that we had to be cautious to eat healthy food.

I eat broccoli very often (almost every day). I don't have much for

gas issues with it but I'm a guy, we're pigs, gas is expected from a

guy I guess. I've eaten corn on the cob and off. Squash is great too.

One thing about fibrous veggies though, they're quite filling, so get

your protein in first.

Mike

My surgeon's

> > > group tells

> > > > patients not to drink carbonated beverages

> > >

> > === message truncated ===

> >

> > __________________________________________________

> >

July 27, 2006

My mother was a social worker with a hard fought/worked MSW so I

can't say too many bad things about the psych/mental field. The few

classes I took in college on psych seemed to clue in on those really

interested in the field as they were the ones who seemed to be able

to APPLY the learning to their own life experiences (sort of like

potential police recruits understanding a lot about breaking the law

from experience in their CJ courses).

It seems to be a great field if you don't want to deal in

quantifiable measures. Don't get me wrong I went to a psychiatrist

for years and he really helped me when I needed it. But even he

seemed to consistently be experimenting with me (and I'd assume

others) with new meds, new dosages, fewer sessions, more sessions,

etc., etc. Maybe there's a method to the madness but it almost seems

that it takes a psych to figure out a psych.

I took a similar test. My surgeon's on staff MSW said it indicated

that the only negative was I might pester or ask for a lot of support

post-op. Excuse me? For starters I live alone Charlie and then

there's the whole point that you're cutting up my freaking body

buddy, you bet I'm going to have questions. What about all the money

you're getting for this too? Finally, my surgeon is the one

scheduling recurring appointments at infinitum. Can you tell I was

somewhat taken aback by this tract of results?

Mike in GR

My surgeon's

> > > group tells

> > > > patients not to drink carbonated beverages

> > >

> > === message truncated ===

> >

> > __________________________________________________

> >

July 27, 2006

Hi,

Broccoli is a gas induced nightmare for me, I can do

squashes, beans and yes 1/2 ear of sweet corn (Im

careful when trying new things like the sweet corn).

It is how you cook it as well, I grill most veggies or

roast them. I make a awesome butternut soup, and crab

bisque. Protein is the key, and if you pack them with

protein its all good! I experimented with a cold

soup...a cucumber chicken with dill, it was heavenly

and perfect for using the summers bounty!

--- Mike wrote:

> My surgeon basically told a group of us (at 3 months

> post-op) that we

> could eat virtually anything we wanted. This was a

> warning more than

> bragging that we had to be cautious to eat healthy

> food.

>

> I eat broccoli very often (almost every day). I

> don't have much for

> gas issues with it but I'm a guy, we're pigs, gas is

> expected from a

> guy I guess. I've eaten corn on the cob and off.

> Squash is great too.

> One thing about fibrous veggies though, they're

> quite filling, so get

> your protein in first.

>

> Mike

>

> > > > >

> > > > > Restaurant orders are a great question. I've

> sort

> > > > of developed it

> > > > > into a plan of attack if you will. I tend to

> over

> > > > analyze things and

> > > > > am very competitive/aggressive with some

> things.

> > > > I've tried to apply

> > > > > that to eating and weight loss now.

> > > > >

> > > > > Ok so I walk into a restaurant with my

> family or

> > > > friends and we're

> > > > > going to sit down. I can't stand smoke

> > > > anywhere/anytime so bars are a

> > > > > problem from the get go. But sometimes if

> I'm far

> > > > enough away I'm

> > > > > okay. Once we're seated I rarely order

> anything to

> > > > drink but

> > > > > occasionally will get a water and very

> rarely an

> > > > iced tea

> > > > > (because " real " drinks are pushing $2.50 a

> drink,

> > > > MERCY). I think

> > > > > drink the water quickly as I know I'm not

> supposed

> > > > to drink 15

> > > > > minutes before eating. Quite often in a sit

> down

> > > > restaurant it takes

> > > > > that long for the wait staff to take and

> return

> > > > with our order. Most

> > > > > of the time though I don't order a drink and

> try

> > > > to drink before I

> > > > > even leave for the restaurant. Not ordering

> a

> > > > drink seems to really

> > > > > confuse a lot of wait staff. I usually get,

> > > > " Nothing? Nothing to

> > > > > drink? " . That's right buddy, nothing.

> > > > >

> > > > > Ordering food can be tough. I usually go

> straight

> > > > for a breast of

> > > > > chicken. Often these come with a cheese on

> them or

> > > > Codon Bleu type or

> > > > > something. That's not so terrible for an

> > > > occasional dinner. I always

> > > > > get sauces off to the side if at all. I

> always

> > > > have fries/chips

> > > > > turned into steamed broccoli (or some other

> veggie

> > > > if I must).

> > > > > Usually ordering something like this, a full

> meal

> > > > type of thing,

> > > > > results in having a good half of it left

> over to

> > > > take home for lunch

> > > > > at work the next day.

> > > > >

> > > > > If I'm not as hungry or, I should say, use

> my new

> > > > brain and realize I

> > > > > can only eat half a " normal " meal then I

> order

> > > > something different.

> > > > > I've tried going with soups but often

> they're

=== message truncated ===

__________________________________________________

July 27, 2006

Yeah-I can understand the frusration. The doc was telling me that he wanted to

make sure that I wouldn't get depressed then the computer quiz was asking if I

see dead people, do I believe in spirits then asked me I I would like to be a

florist or a postman. I don't know the logic in that.

Mike wrote: My mother was a social worker with a

hard fought/worked MSW so I

can't say too many bad things about the psych/mental field. The few

classes I took in college on psych seemed to clue in on those really

interested in the field as they were the ones who seemed to be able

to APPLY the learning to their own life experiences (sort of like

potential police recruits understanding a lot about breaking the law

from experience in their CJ courses).

It seems to be a great field if you don't want to deal in

quantifiable measures. Don't get me wrong I went to a psychiatrist

for years and he really helped me when I needed it. But even he

seemed to consistently be experimenting with me (and I'd assume

others) with new meds, new dosages, fewer sessions, more sessions,

etc., etc. Maybe there's a method to the madness but it almost seems

that it takes a psych to figure out a psych.

I took a similar test. My surgeon's on staff MSW said it indicated

that the only negative was I might pester or ask for a lot of support

post-op. Excuse me? For starters I live alone Charlie and then

there's the whole point that you're cutting up my freaking body

buddy, you bet I'm going to have questions. What about all the money

you're getting for this too? Finally, my surgeon is the one

scheduling recurring appointments at infinitum. Can you tell I was

somewhat taken aback by this tract of results?

Mike in GR

My surgeon's

> > > group tells

> > > > patients not to drink carbonated beverages

> > >

> > === message truncated ===

> >

> > __________________________________________________

> >

July 27, 2006

In a message dated 7/27/2006 6:53:10 AM Eastern Daylight Time,

purplepony_00@... writes:

and crab

bisque.

Would you share the receipe with us?

Thanks,

Kathy

July 27, 2006

One thing I have noticed with the different posts left is that some people who

have had WLS do well because they make an effort to change. Seems some think

they can go back to eating as they did before. I have been on my liver

shrinking diet for 3 days so far and even though I get hungry, I keep telling

myself this is for the better and when I get the " head hungries " , I can force

them away by saying, nope, I can do better. I am so excited about this and

can't wait to start losing.

Patty

Date of Change - Aug 8th

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July 27, 2006

My husband thought that this would be a quick fix for me that I would just eat

less of the same foods that I use to eat and that everything would be fine. Now

that I have changed almost all of the foods and drink liquids that he says are

nasty its a little battle every night when I cook dinner. Its kinda funny. I

cook dinner for him nd my 3 girls and admist all of that I also incorporate food

I can eat and when he takes a bite the faces he makes is so funny. Like they

told me that WLS is a tool. You still have to change the way you eat and start

getting active.

Patty wrote: One thing I have noticed with

the different posts left is that some people who have had WLS do well because

they make an effort to change. Seems some think they can go back to eating as

they did before. I have been on my liver shrinking diet for 3 days so far and

even though I get hungry, I keep telling myself this is for the better and when

I get the " head hungries " , I can force them away by saying, nope, I can do

better. I am so excited about this and can't wait to start losing.

Patty

Date of Change - Aug 8th

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July 27, 2006

That's a big part of it Patty! If I get " hungry " I tell myself...nope

not gonna give in. You've worked to hard for what you have and you're

not giving up! I think about what I'm going to look like. All the fun

I'll have laying w/ my daughter. The fun of buying new clothes. It

keeps me in check!

W

380/337/160

Patty wrote:

> One thing I have noticed with the different posts left is that some people who

have had WLS do well because they make an effort to change. Seems some think

they can go back to eating as they did before. I have been on my liver

shrinking diet for 3 days so far and even though I get hungry, I keep telling

myself this is for the better and when I get the " head hungries " , I can force

them away by saying, nope, I can do better. I am so excited about this and

can't wait to start losing.

>

> Patty

> Date of Change - Aug 8th

>

July 27, 2006

Kathy,

Here you go! Enjoy and it is super easy and so good! I

didnt add the celery, but I do use it every now and

then (1-2 ribs) saute with the onion. I have made

homemade croutons and added when served (family loves

them)

2T Butter

1T Onion, finely chopped

1/4c chopped carrot

1T Parsley, finely chopped

1 1/2 cups Crabmeat, chopped

2t Flour

2c Chicken broth

2c Cream, light

Pinch or 2 of cayenne pepper

Salt

Few grinds of black pepper

In a saucepan, melt the butter. Add the onion and

carrot and cook slowly until golden.

Add the crabmeat and parsley and cook over low heat

stirring constantly

(about 4 minutes). Add the flour, stir to blend and

cook for 3 minutes

more. Stir in the chicken broth and simmer gently

for 20 minutes. KEEP PAN

PARTIALLY COVERED. Add the cream and cayenne

pepper. Heat & add salt to

taste. Makes 5 cups.

--- CropKitty@... wrote:

> In a message dated 7/27/2006 6:53:10 AM Eastern

> Daylight Time,

> purplepony_00@... writes:

> and crab

> bisque.

> Would you share the receipe with us?

>

> Thanks,

> Kathy

>

> [Non-text portions of this message have been

> removed]

>

__________________________________________________

July 27, 2006

,

I get sick every time I eat broccoli. I chew it up real well, but it never

fails, it always comes back up. It also makes my chest hurt for hours before it

comes up. So, I avoid broccoli like the plague now. Maybe down the road I'll

be able to tolerate it better.

in Virginia

299/246/150 (finally back on the downward path after nearly a 2 week standstill)

Lap RNY: 5/3/06

Re: Scared in Florida

Hi Chele,

I am going through the University of Michigan program. The surgeon is

Birkmeyer. I still have to go through the nutritional

consultations and the psych evals, plus get insurance approval. My

first meeting is next Tuesday. I don't have a date yet, but hopefully

this will all go fairly quickly. The absolute earliest is 5 weeks, but

with my luck it will be more like 5 months.

Are veggies like broccoli and corn OK after several months post-op? I

know there are issues with brocoli causing gas, but is it too fibrous

for the pouch? Broccoli, corn and squash are my favorites.

in MI

My surgeon's

> > group tells

> > > patients not to drink carbonated beverages

> >

> === message truncated ===

>

> __________________________________________________

>

July 27, 2006

,

Sorry you have to deal with all of this and are getting no support. We

all know its not some quick fix, and we have to work very hard

still......Take care

Mike T

Re: Re: Scared in Florida

> My husband thought that this would be a quick fix for me that I would just

> eat less of the same foods that I use to eat and that everything would be

> fine. Now that I have changed almost all of the foods and drink liquids

> that he says are nasty its a little battle every night when I cook dinner.

> Its kinda funny. I cook dinner for him nd my 3 girls and admist all of

> that I also incorporate food I can eat and when he takes a bite the faces

> he makes is so funny. Like they told me that WLS is a tool. You still have

> to change the way you eat and start getting active.

>

> Patty wrote: One thing I have

> noticed with the different posts left is that some people who have had WLS

> do well because they make an effort to change. Seems some think they can

> go back to eating as they did before. I have been on my liver shrinking

> diet for 3 days so far and even though I get hungry, I keep telling myself

> this is for the better and when I get the " head hungries " , I can force

> them away by saying, nope, I can do better. I am so excited about this and

> can't wait to start losing.

>

> Patty

> Date of Change - Aug 8th

>

> ---------------------------------

> Groups are talking. We & acute;re listening. Check out the handy changes to

> Yahoo! Groups.

>

July 27, 2006

Mike,

I love the walmart surgar free fruit punch and raspberry ice tea!

You are right about them being almost too sweet...I was happy when I

added more water and they tasted great! Now it tastes better and I get

more water in!!

Laurel

July 27, 2006

The fruit punch is probably my fave. And I mix it in a 20oz bottle of

water & it's not so bad. 16oz just isn't enough.

W

380/337/160

Laurie wrote:

> Mike,

>

> I love the walmart surgar free fruit punch and raspberry ice tea!

> You are right about them being almost too sweet...I was happy when I

> added more water and they tasted great! Now it tastes better and I get

> more water in!!

> Laurel

>

July 27, 2006

Thanks--talking online with other people that has WLS really helps. I know that

this is an off question but has anyone noticed that you sneeze differently after

WLS? Also I can't seem to get to sleep its like I have instant insomnia!

Mike Tune wrote: ,

Sorry you have to deal with all of this and are getting no support. We

all know its not some quick fix, and we have to work very hard

still......Take care

Mike T

Re: Re: Scared in Florida

> My husband thought that this would be a quick fix for me that I would just

> eat less of the same foods that I use to eat and that everything would be

> fine. Now that I have changed almost all of the foods and drink liquids

> that he says are nasty its a little battle every night when I cook dinner.

> Its kinda funny. I cook dinner for him nd my 3 girls and admist all of

> that I also incorporate food I can eat and when he takes a bite the faces

> he makes is so funny. Like they told me that WLS is a tool. You still have

> to change the way you eat and start getting active.

>

> Patty wrote: One thing I have

> noticed with the different posts left is that some people who have had WLS

> do well because they make an effort to change. Seems some think they can

> go back to eating as they did before. I have been on my liver shrinking

> diet for 3 days so far and even though I get hungry, I keep telling myself

> this is for the better and when I get the " head hungries " , I can force

> them away by saying, nope, I can do better. I am so excited about this and

> can't wait to start losing.

>

> Patty

> Date of Change - Aug 8th

>

> ---------------------------------

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>

July 27, 2006

You guys are driving me crazy........I used to love fruit punch and I cant

find the sugar free FP your talking about! I'm going to hunt some down

though!

Mike T

Re: Re: Scared in Florida

> The fruit punch is probably my fave. And I mix it in a 20oz bottle of

> water & it's not so bad. 16oz just isn't enough.

>

> W

> 380/337/160

>

> Laurie wrote:

>> Mike,

>>

>> I love the walmart surgar free fruit punch and raspberry ice tea!

>> You are right about them being almost too sweet...I was happy when I

>> added more water and they tasted great! Now it tastes better and I get

>> more water in!!

>> Laurel

>>

>

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>

July 27, 2006

The SF Fruit punch I have is a wal mart brand.Sold near Crystal

Light.Maybe that is the kind the others use?

Kim

RNY 6/23/06

298/260/135

>

> You guys are driving me crazy........I used to love fruit punch

and I cant

> find the sugar free FP your talking about! I'm going to hunt some

down

> though!

>

> Mike T

>

July 28, 2006

Weird! It's even for sale on ebay.

http://cgi.ebay.com/CRYSTAL-LIGHT-DRINK-MIX-FRUIT-PUNCH-Sugar-Free-8-

qts_W0QQitemZ270011363629QQihZ017QQcategoryZ31821QQcmdZViewItem

Actually that's not such a bad price even including shipping. I'm

going to have to see if my local Walmarts have their own brand.

Mike

> >> Mike,

> >>

> >> I love the walmart surgar free fruit punch and raspberry ice

tea!

> >> You are right about them being almost too sweet...I was happy

when I

> >> added more water and they tasted great! Now it tastes better and

I get

> >> more water in!!

> >> Laurel

> >>

> >

> > We are a very active support group.

> > If the email becomes overwhelming,

> > please change your setting to NO EMAIL!

> > Please contact Group Creator

> > Robyn@...

> >

July 28, 2006

I have not experienced either one or atleast noticed the sneezing. I sleep

better now.

Ellison wrote:

Thanks--talking online with other people that has WLS really helps. I

know that this is an off question but has anyone noticed that you sneeze

differently after WLS? Also I can't seem to get to sleep its like I have instant

insomnia!

Mike Tune wrote: ,

Sorry you have to deal with all of this and are getting no support. We

all know its not some quick fix, and we have to work very hard

still......Take care

Mike T

Re: Re: Scared in Florida

> My husband thought that this would be a quick fix for me that I would just

> eat less of the same foods that I use to eat and that everything would be

> fine. Now that I have changed almost all of the foods and drink liquids

> that he says are nasty its a little battle every night when I cook dinner.

> Its kinda funny. I cook dinner for him nd my 3 girls and admist all of

> that I also incorporate food I can eat and when he takes a bite the faces

> he makes is so funny. Like they told me that WLS is a tool. You still have

> to change the way you eat and start getting active.

>

> Patty wrote: One thing I have

> noticed with the different posts left is that some people who have had WLS

> do well because they make an effort to change. Seems some think they can

> go back to eating as they did before. I have been on my liver shrinking

> diet for 3 days so far and even though I get hungry, I keep telling myself

> this is for the better and when I get the " head hungries " , I can force

> them away by saying, nope, I can do better. I am so excited about this and

> can't wait to start losing.

>

> Patty

> Date of Change - Aug 8th

>

> ---------------------------------

> Groups are talking. We & acute;re listening. Check out the handy changes to

> Yahoo! Groups.

>

July 28, 2006

I have found that I cannot do raw broccoli, corn, and frozen veggies.

Chele' wrote:

Hi,

Broccoli is a gas induced nightmare for me, I can do

squashes, beans and yes 1/2 ear of sweet corn (Im

careful when trying new things like the sweet corn).

It is how you cook it as well, I grill most veggies or

roast them. I make a awesome butternut soup, and crab

bisque. Protein is the key, and if you pack them with

protein its all good! I experimented with a cold

soup...a cucumber chicken with dill, it was heavenly

and perfect for using the summers bounty!

--- Mike wrote:

> My surgeon basically told a group of us (at 3 months

> post-op) that we

> could eat virtually anything we wanted. This was a

> warning more than

> bragging that we had to be cautious to eat healthy

> food.

>

> I eat broccoli very often (almost every day). I

> don't have much for

> gas issues with it but I'm a guy, we're pigs, gas is

> expected from a

> guy I guess. I've eaten corn on the cob and off.

> Squash is great too.

> One thing about fibrous veggies though, they're

> quite filling, so get

> your protein in first.

>

> Mike

>

> > > > >

> > > > > Restaurant orders are a great question. I've

> sort

> > > > of developed it

> > > > > into a plan of attack if you will. I tend to

> over

> > > > analyze things and

> > > > > am very competitive/aggressive with some

> things.

> > > > I've tried to apply

> > > > > that to eating and weight loss now.

> > > > >

> > > > > Ok so I walk into a restaurant with my

> family or

> > > > friends and we're

> > > > > going to sit down. I can't stand smoke

> > > > anywhere/anytime so bars are a

> > > > > problem from the get go. But sometimes if

> I'm far

> > > > enough away I'm

> > > > > okay. Once we're seated I rarely order

> anything to

> > > > drink but

> > > > > occasionally will get a water and very

> rarely an

> > > > iced tea

> > > > > (because " real " drinks are pushing $2.50 a

> drink,

> > > > MERCY). I think

> > > > > drink the water quickly as I know I'm not

> supposed

> > > > to drink 15

> > > > > minutes before eating. Quite often in a sit

> down

> > > > restaurant it takes

> > > > > that long for the wait staff to take and

> return

> > > > with our order. Most

> > > > > of the time though I don't order a drink and

> try

> > > > to drink before I

> > > > > even leave for the restaurant. Not ordering

> a

> > > > drink seems to really

> > > > > confuse a lot of wait staff. I usually get,

> > > > " Nothing? Nothing to

> > > > > drink? " . That's right buddy, nothing.

> > > > >

> > > > > Ordering food can be tough. I usually go

> straight

> > > > for a breast of

> > > > > chicken. Often these come with a cheese on

> them or

> > > > Codon Bleu type or

> > > > > something. That's not so terrible for an

> > > > occasional dinner. I always

> > > > > get sauces off to the side if at all. I

> always

> > > > have fries/chips

> > > > > turned into steamed broccoli (or some other

> veggie

> > > > if I must).

> > > > > Usually ordering something like this, a full

> meal

> > > > type of thing,

> > > > > results in having a good half of it left

> over to

> > > > take home for lunch

> > > > > at work the next day.

> > > > >

> > > > > If I'm not as hungry or, I should say, use

> my new

> > > > brain and realize I

> > > > > can only eat half a " normal " meal then I

> order

> > > > something different.

> > > > > I've tried going with soups but often

> they're

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