Re: Breast vs. Formula

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In a message dated 6/1/99 4:04:02 PM Eastern Daylight Time,

naturebaby@... writes:

<< BTW I

have breastfed two children and still can't do the cradle hold. I think

that it is harder if you have large breasts, just as I can't nurse while

walking around. Don't beat yourself up it might not be the right hold for

you. >>

Wendi~

Thanks! It's good to see that I'm not the only one!! You're rather

experienced and can't do it, so I feel good. Perhaps it is the large breasts

that's the problem. Holden and I live in the football hold. It's rough at

night because I can't do the " lie down " position too well either.

About the LLLI.....I am really looking foward to getting involved in it. I

would volunteer my services as a freelance graphic artist to make fliers as

well as my time to drive all over posting info about the different leagues.

I don't think enough people know enough about it ;-) Good luck on you

becoming a leader! Is that a very hard thing to do?

~

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In a message dated 6/2/99 7:36:01 AM Eastern Daylight Time,

angehowe@... writes:

<< If you have been in

touch with LLL for support, maybe you could go and participate, offer to

help, make a donation, purchase a membership... and help make that Group be

able to afford to be more visible. >>

I look foward to my first meeting, which will be next Wednesday morning!!!!

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,

Love it!

Wendi

Re: Breast vs. Formula

At 05:04 AM 6/1/99 , you wrote:

>I am a proud breastfeeder and I will not hide or shut up for anyone.

>

>Wendi

LOL!! Sounds like a t-shirt logo: Im breastfeeding and I cant shut up! lol!

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Also the severe pain w.after birth contractions. They were enough to make ME

almost switch to formula. I would cry and cry, I was in so much pain =(**

But after those first couple weeks I was ok and we have now been

breastfeeding 3 months!!

Re: Breast vs. Formula

,

Does it matter? If it hurts and she doesn't like it and it's going to

prevent her from feeding her baby...it doesn't matter WHY.

It definitely does matter why. I have know a few bf women who almost

stopped because of pain and were completely ready to switch to formula.

They found out that the latch was wrong, fixed the problems and went on to

have extensive bf relationships. If you are having pain that you don't

think will ever go away you would stop doing what is causing you pain, but

if you knew that you could continue painfree by doing it different it would

give you hope.

Wendi

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In a message dated 6/4/99 6:14:46 PM Eastern Daylight Time,

angehowe@... writes:

<< Maybe there is a mechanism of birth that makes any after-birth contraction

less noticeable that is not there with an epidural. Maybe pitocin

interferes with it... I have no idea. Just wondering if choices made

during labor and birth might affect it.

>>

~

I was wondering the same thing because I don't remember having those " after

birth contractions " Now, I never got Holden for 4 hours after he was born

(reason number 189 for a home birth) because I needed to " recover " from my

operation...but even when we finally attempted to nurse I don't remember

having cramping or anything. I was also on pitocin. Perhaps having a

c-section makes a difference? However, I've heard that they are worse with

baby #2.

~

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My first was epi and pit and had no pains. My secodn was pit only not pain

meds and my pains were killers

Re: Breast vs. Formula

I only had the after-birth sort of pains/contractions for a day or so, and

only with my second. I dont know if it is related to the way I delivered

or what. nursed well in those short few weeks, but I dont remember

any pains after his birth (pitocin only). nursed infrequently after

she was born, but each time she nursed I had cramps that felt like she was

sucking my toes through my nipples... I started taking Tylenol and did fine

though. Those were the only pains after her birth (pit, epidural). After

was born (unmedicated), I expected to have those pains and was

relieved when they didnt happen.

Maybe there is a mechanism of birth that makes any after-birth contraction

less noticeable that is not there with an epidural. Maybe pitocin

interferes with it... I have no idea. Just wondering if choices made

during labor and birth might affect it.

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I had them REAL BAD. I lived on Motrin for a week!!!

Stevie~Mommy to a 10/10/96 & 2/22/99

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>I was virtually incapacitated with pain after Zaid was born. This went on

>for almost a week. The first four days were the worst. I had to take

>tylenol many times. I had him naturally at home so that wasn't it. I have

>heard that it is a matter of your uterus being more stretched. Was

>smaller than your other babies?

Oh, interesting! was 8-8, was 8-4, and was 7-0.

What about Kaija and Zaid?

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In a message dated 6/5/99 2:18:49 PM Pacific Daylight Time,

angehowe@... writes:

<< >I was virtually incapacitated with pain after Zaid was born. >>

Cade didn't nurse for a few days,so I think thats why my after pains werent

TOO bad. Just like really bad period cramps--I started pumping at 2 days post

until 4 days post, and I had to take alot of tylenol also. The nurses kept

asking " do you want something stronger " and I didn't, so I just took the

tylenol and dealt with it. The pains were gone by 4 days post, but i had

awful vaginal pain for almost 2 months. I didn't tear but the nurses and

midwife said I bruised REALLY bad and was actually black and blue( I didnt

look!!)and I cam home 3 dyas post(a day 1/2 before cade) and that night I was

working like crazy to ge my room and house ready, and pulled a muscle VERY

badly!!( I wasn't " taking it easy " I was lifting furniture after everyone

went to bed) so I couldn't sit down for a week almost, couldn't laugh for a

couple, couldn't sneeze or cough for a month!

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,

That was the reason I asked because Kaija was 6-4 and Zaid 7-12 so he stretched

me quite a bit more.

Wendi

Re: Breast vs. Formula

>I was virtually incapacitated with pain after Zaid was born. This went on

>for almost a week. The first four days were the worst. I had to take

>tylenol many times. I had him naturally at home so that wasn't it. I have

>heard that it is a matter of your uterus being more stretched. Was

>smaller than your other babies?

Oh, interesting! was 8-8, was 8-4, and was 7-0.

What about Kaija and Zaid?

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In a message dated 6/4/99 8:37:02 PM Eastern Daylight Time,

naturebaby@... writes:

<< Maybe there is a mechanism of birth that makes any after-birth contraction

less noticeable that is not there with an epidural. Maybe pitocin

interferes with it... I have no idea. Just wondering if choices made

during labor and birth might affect it.

>>

I didn't have any after birth contractions. I was induced with pitocin and

also had an epidural. Just my experience.

Dana : )