RE: re: Hospital Stay Ideas

[Guest guest]

WOW-

I don't see her posts that way at all! I don't eat popcorn or bars because I am trying to change my eating habits and those things will trigger munchy foods in me.............after all who can stop at one bar? I certainly can't.

But you old timers understand the ins and outs better then me. I read the posts, consult me book, and decide what will work for me. I think that is what is doing too but adding in stuff that works for her.

RE: re: Hospital Stay Ideas

> I am not spreading misinformation. I was simply replying to > someone that also eats the bars. That's all it was. If you go > back and read you'll see that is what I did. This is what > works for me and I've lost 23 pounds because of it. I am not > a doctor I don't recommend it. But that is what I do. I will > only mention it when people ask about it. -- You spread misinformation. You did over on Ami's group and nowyou're doing it here. This is why so many just added your messages to theirkillfilter or deleted them altogether. It's also why the group responded sonegatively to you before (and after) you were removed from it.Prime example is your message on the bars here -- you attribute statementsto Agatston that he did not make. He's never said you could have popcornduring P1, he's never said you could have meal replacement bars during phase1, he's never said you could use Atkins bars, and he's never said any ofthese things could be done on a daily basis. In fact, he's publicallystated exactly the opposite and done so time and time again. You've madesimilar such statements and the simple fact of the matter is that you arespreading inaccurate information.Several of us tried to help you on the Newbies group -- you weren'tinterested. Folks have already tried helping you here and you've alreadystarted arguing with them that they're wrong. Are you seeing a patternhere?Note the name of the group -- SBD "Getting It Right". The members of thisgroup want to do the SBD the right way. That means following the guidelinesof the diet as they've been developed -- not using their own version as theysee fit. This isn't the "SBD a la Carte" group.Reminder: The South Beach Diet is not low-carb. Nor is it low-fat. The South Beach Diet teaches you to rely on the right carbs and the right fats-the good ones - and enables you to live quite happily without the bad carbs and bad fats. For more on this Way Of Eating please read "The South Beach Diet" by Arthur Agatston, MD. ISBN 1-57954-814-8

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WOW-

I don't see her posts that way at all! I don't eat popcorn or bars because I am trying to change my eating habits and those things will trigger munchy foods in me.............after all who can stop at one bar? I certainly can't.

But you old timers understand the ins and outs better then me. I read the posts, consult me book, and decide what will work for me. I think that is what is doing too but adding in stuff that works for her.

RE: re: Hospital Stay Ideas

> I am not spreading misinformation. I was simply replying to > someone that also eats the bars. That's all it was. If you go > back and read you'll see that is what I did. This is what > works for me and I've lost 23 pounds because of it. I am not > a doctor I don't recommend it. But that is what I do. I will > only mention it when people ask about it. -- You spread misinformation. You did over on Ami's group and nowyou're doing it here. This is why so many just added your messages to theirkillfilter or deleted them altogether. It's also why the group responded sonegatively to you before (and after) you were removed from it.Prime example is your message on the bars here -- you attribute statementsto Agatston that he did not make. He's never said you could have popcornduring P1, he's never said you could have meal replacement bars during phase1, he's never said you could use Atkins bars, and he's never said any ofthese things could be done on a daily basis. In fact, he's publicallystated exactly the opposite and done so time and time again. You've madesimilar such statements and the simple fact of the matter is that you arespreading inaccurate information.Several of us tried to help you on the Newbies group -- you weren'tinterested. Folks have already tried helping you here and you've alreadystarted arguing with them that they're wrong. Are you seeing a patternhere?Note the name of the group -- SBD "Getting It Right". The members of thisgroup want to do the SBD the right way. That means following the guidelinesof the diet as they've been developed -- not using their own version as theysee fit. This isn't the "SBD a la Carte" group.Reminder: The South Beach Diet is not low-carb. Nor is it low-fat. The South Beach Diet teaches you to rely on the right carbs and the right fats-the good ones - and enables you to live quite happily without the bad carbs and bad fats. For more on this Way Of Eating please read "The South Beach Diet" by Arthur Agatston, MD. ISBN 1-57954-814-8

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WOW-

I don't see her posts that way at all! I don't eat popcorn or bars because I am trying to change my eating habits and those things will trigger munchy foods in me.............after all who can stop at one bar? I certainly can't.

But you old timers understand the ins and outs better then me. I read the posts, consult me book, and decide what will work for me. I think that is what is doing too but adding in stuff that works for her.

RE: re: Hospital Stay Ideas

> I am not spreading misinformation. I was simply replying to > someone that also eats the bars. That's all it was. If you go > back and read you'll see that is what I did. This is what > works for me and I've lost 23 pounds because of it. I am not > a doctor I don't recommend it. But that is what I do. I will > only mention it when people ask about it. -- You spread misinformation. You did over on Ami's group and nowyou're doing it here. This is why so many just added your messages to theirkillfilter or deleted them altogether. It's also why the group responded sonegatively to you before (and after) you were removed from it.Prime example is your message on the bars here -- you attribute statementsto Agatston that he did not make. He's never said you could have popcornduring P1, he's never said you could have meal replacement bars during phase1, he's never said you could use Atkins bars, and he's never said any ofthese things could be done on a daily basis. In fact, he's publicallystated exactly the opposite and done so time and time again. You've madesimilar such statements and the simple fact of the matter is that you arespreading inaccurate information.Several of us tried to help you on the Newbies group -- you weren'tinterested. Folks have already tried helping you here and you've alreadystarted arguing with them that they're wrong. Are you seeing a patternhere?Note the name of the group -- SBD "Getting It Right". The members of thisgroup want to do the SBD the right way. That means following the guidelinesof the diet as they've been developed -- not using their own version as theysee fit. This isn't the "SBD a la Carte" group.Reminder: The South Beach Diet is not low-carb. Nor is it low-fat. The South Beach Diet teaches you to rely on the right carbs and the right fats-the good ones - and enables you to live quite happily without the bad carbs and bad fats. For more on this Way Of Eating please read "The South Beach Diet" by Arthur Agatston, MD. ISBN 1-57954-814-8

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[Guest guest]

Then you aren't doing the South Beach Diet. You're doing your own

diet.

ann

> > They are basically unhealthy junk food. And are not phase one

> friendly. Might also be why the weightloss slowed down cuz you

> weren't really in phase one while eating these. Carol

> > Re: re: Hospital Stay Ideas

> >

> >

> >

> > I eat the Diet bars as well for dessert instead of the ricotta

> > desserts and jello. I did that all through phase 1. They are

> > definitely yummy. I just started using the Atkin's bars

because

> I

> > found them at a $1 store here so I went with those. They are

> wonderful!

> >

> >

> >

> >

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[Guest guest]

Then you aren't doing the South Beach Diet. You're doing your own

diet.

ann

> > They are basically unhealthy junk food. And are not phase one

> friendly. Might also be why the weightloss slowed down cuz you

> weren't really in phase one while eating these. Carol

> > Re: re: Hospital Stay Ideas

> >

> >

> >

> > I eat the Diet bars as well for dessert instead of the ricotta

> > desserts and jello. I did that all through phase 1. They are

> > definitely yummy. I just started using the Atkin's bars

because

> I

> > found them at a $1 store here so I went with those. They are

> wonderful!

> >

> >

> >

> >

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[Guest guest]

I can't find the websiter but it was posted on the other forum that

I was in and that's where I got it from so it has been a while. You

can find it in that. I know he says it's alright. Besides I lost all

that weight with the bars and everything so it couldn't have been

that bad for me otherwise he wouldn't put his stamp of approval. He

said even though whole foods are better these are just fun too. I'm

not on them anymore so can you please calm down and not jump down my

throat for the things I've done. I've been successful I'm still with

diet. I have lost 23 pounds in 29 days. I need to do a little

research to find the website where he says it but it was one of

those websites where he answers everyone's question.

> > Dr. Agaston does say that it is alright to do that and I've

> > been doing it since day 1. It works for me and I know my

> > weight loss hasn't slowed down because of that. I just lost 2

> > more pounds so I know it's not that. I'm down 23 pounds in 29

> > days and thrilled about it!

>

> -- Where have you seen that Agatston says it is ok to eat

meal

> replacement bars as desserts, every day, or during Phase 1? When

has he

> said that the Atkins bars are ok?

>

> It's great that you've lost weight however you've done it without

following

> the guidelines of the diet. Saying that you did such and such

without

> negative effect is one thing, saying that Agatston says it is ok

is an

> entirely different matter.

>

>

[Guest guest]

I can't find the websiter but it was posted on the other forum that

I was in and that's where I got it from so it has been a while. You

can find it in that. I know he says it's alright. Besides I lost all

that weight with the bars and everything so it couldn't have been

that bad for me otherwise he wouldn't put his stamp of approval. He

said even though whole foods are better these are just fun too. I'm

not on them anymore so can you please calm down and not jump down my

throat for the things I've done. I've been successful I'm still with

diet. I have lost 23 pounds in 29 days. I need to do a little

research to find the website where he says it but it was one of

those websites where he answers everyone's question.

> > Dr. Agaston does say that it is alright to do that and I've

> > been doing it since day 1. It works for me and I know my

> > weight loss hasn't slowed down because of that. I just lost 2

> > more pounds so I know it's not that. I'm down 23 pounds in 29

> > days and thrilled about it!

>

> -- Where have you seen that Agatston says it is ok to eat

meal

> replacement bars as desserts, every day, or during Phase 1? When

has he

> said that the Atkins bars are ok?

>

> It's great that you've lost weight however you've done it without

following

> the guidelines of the diet. Saying that you did such and such

without

> negative effect is one thing, saying that Agatston says it is ok

is an

> entirely different matter.

>

>

[Guest guest]

THIS IS MY LAST PAST TO YOU BECAUSE I DON'T WANT TO GET INTO. I MADE

MISTAKES IN THE PAST. I NO LONGER CHEAT. I WAS MAKING A COMMENT TO

SOMEONE THAT ALREADY EATS THEM IN THE GROUP. THEY SAID THEY WERE

GOOD. THAT'S ALL I SAID. I DON'T EAT THEM ANYMORE I AM DOING

EVERYTHING RIGHT SO PLEASE GET OFF MY CASE. I AM DONE RESPONDING TO

YOU.

> > I am not spreading misinformation. I was simply replying to

> > someone that also eats the bars. That's all it was. If you go

> > back and read you'll see that is what I did. This is what

> > works for me and I've lost 23 pounds because of it. I am not

> > a doctor I don't recommend it. But that is what I do. I will

> > only mention it when people ask about it.

>

> -- You spread misinformation. You did over on Ami's group

and now

> you're doing it here. This is why so many just added your

messages to their

> killfilter or deleted them altogether. It's also why the group

responded so

> negatively to you before (and after) you were removed from it.

>

> Prime example is your message on the bars here -- you attribute

statements

> to Agatston that he did not make. He's never said you could have

popcorn

> during P1, he's never said you could have meal replacement bars

during phase

> 1, he's never said you could use Atkins bars, and he's never said

any of

> these things could be done on a daily basis. In fact, he's

publically

> stated exactly the opposite and done so time and time again.

You've made

> similar such statements and the simple fact of the matter is that

you are

> spreading inaccurate information.

>

> Several of us tried to help you on the Newbies group -- you weren't

> interested. Folks have already tried helping you here and you've

already

> started arguing with them that they're wrong. Are you seeing a

pattern

> here?

>

> Note the name of the group -- SBD " Getting It Right " . The members

of this

> group want to do the SBD the right way. That means following the

guidelines

> of the diet as they've been developed -- not using their own

version as they

> see fit. This isn't the " SBD a la Carte " group.

[Guest guest]

THIS IS MY LAST PAST TO YOU BECAUSE I DON'T WANT TO GET INTO. I MADE

MISTAKES IN THE PAST. I NO LONGER CHEAT. I WAS MAKING A COMMENT TO

SOMEONE THAT ALREADY EATS THEM IN THE GROUP. THEY SAID THEY WERE

GOOD. THAT'S ALL I SAID. I DON'T EAT THEM ANYMORE I AM DOING

EVERYTHING RIGHT SO PLEASE GET OFF MY CASE. I AM DONE RESPONDING TO

YOU.

> > I am not spreading misinformation. I was simply replying to

> > someone that also eats the bars. That's all it was. If you go

> > back and read you'll see that is what I did. This is what

> > works for me and I've lost 23 pounds because of it. I am not

> > a doctor I don't recommend it. But that is what I do. I will

> > only mention it when people ask about it.

>

> -- You spread misinformation. You did over on Ami's group

and now

> you're doing it here. This is why so many just added your

messages to their

> killfilter or deleted them altogether. It's also why the group

responded so

> negatively to you before (and after) you were removed from it.

>

> Prime example is your message on the bars here -- you attribute

statements

> to Agatston that he did not make. He's never said you could have

popcorn

> during P1, he's never said you could have meal replacement bars

during phase

> 1, he's never said you could use Atkins bars, and he's never said

any of

> these things could be done on a daily basis. In fact, he's

publically

> stated exactly the opposite and done so time and time again.

You've made

> similar such statements and the simple fact of the matter is that

you are

> spreading inaccurate information.

>

> Several of us tried to help you on the Newbies group -- you weren't

> interested. Folks have already tried helping you here and you've

already

> started arguing with them that they're wrong. Are you seeing a

pattern

> here?

>

> Note the name of the group -- SBD " Getting It Right " . The members

of this

> group want to do the SBD the right way. That means following the

guidelines

> of the diet as they've been developed -- not using their own

version as they

> see fit. This isn't the " SBD a la Carte " group.

[Guest guest]

That's exactly what I was doing. I thought it was so much better

than what I was doing before. I realized I made a mistake and now in

phase 2 I'm doing everything right. My only night time snack now is

20 nuts. The second 2 weeks of phase 1 really helped a lot and now

I'm over cheating at all. I'm doing well now and people from other

forums were yelling at me because everything was wrong that I was

doing and now I'm still getting yelled at for doing what I did

before. I'm just going to ignore and let that be that.

Thanks for sticking up for me again. I appreciate it. It means a lot.

> WOW-

> I don't see her posts that way at all! I don't eat popcorn or

bars because I am trying to change my eating habits and those things

will trigger munchy foods in me.............after all who can stop

at one bar? I certainly can't.

>

> But you old timers understand the ins and outs better then me. I

read the posts, consult me book, and decide what will work for me.

I think that is what is doing too but adding in stuff that

works for her.

>

> RE: re: Hospital Stay Ideas

>

>

> > I am not spreading misinformation. I was simply replying to

> > someone that also eats the bars. That's all it was. If you go

> > back and read you'll see that is what I did. This is what

> > works for me and I've lost 23 pounds because of it. I am not

> > a doctor I don't recommend it. But that is what I do. I will

> > only mention it when people ask about it.

>

> -- You spread misinformation. You did over on Ami's

group and now

> you're doing it here. This is why so many just added your

messages to their

> killfilter or deleted them altogether. It's also why the group

responded so

> negatively to you before (and after) you were removed from it.

>

> Prime example is your message on the bars here -- you attribute

statements

> to Agatston that he did not make. He's never said you could

have popcorn

> during P1, he's never said you could have meal replacement bars

during phase

> 1, he's never said you could use Atkins bars, and he's never

said any of

> these things could be done on a daily basis. In fact, he's

publically

> stated exactly the opposite and done so time and time again.

You've made

> similar such statements and the simple fact of the matter is

that you are

> spreading inaccurate information.

>

> Several of us tried to help you on the Newbies group -- you

weren't

> interested. Folks have already tried helping you here and

you've already

> started arguing with them that they're wrong. Are you seeing a

pattern

> here?

>

> Note the name of the group -- SBD " Getting It Right " . The

members of this

> group want to do the SBD the right way. That means following

the guidelines

> of the diet as they've been developed -- not using their own

version as they

> see fit. This isn't the " SBD a la Carte " group.

>

>

>

> Reminder: The South Beach Diet is not low-carb. Nor is it low-

fat. The South Beach Diet teaches you to rely on the right carbs and

the right fats-the good ones - and enables you to live quite happily

without the bad carbs and bad fats.

>

> For more on this Way Of Eating please read " The South Beach

Diet " by Arthur Agatston, MD. ISBN 1-57954-814-8

>

>

>

> -------------------------------------------------------------------

-----------

>

[Guest guest]

That's exactly what I was doing. I thought it was so much better

than what I was doing before. I realized I made a mistake and now in

phase 2 I'm doing everything right. My only night time snack now is

20 nuts. The second 2 weeks of phase 1 really helped a lot and now

I'm over cheating at all. I'm doing well now and people from other

forums were yelling at me because everything was wrong that I was

doing and now I'm still getting yelled at for doing what I did

before. I'm just going to ignore and let that be that.

Thanks for sticking up for me again. I appreciate it. It means a lot.

> WOW-

> I don't see her posts that way at all! I don't eat popcorn or

bars because I am trying to change my eating habits and those things

will trigger munchy foods in me.............after all who can stop

at one bar? I certainly can't.

>

> But you old timers understand the ins and outs better then me. I

read the posts, consult me book, and decide what will work for me.

I think that is what is doing too but adding in stuff that

works for her.

>

> RE: re: Hospital Stay Ideas

>

>

> > I am not spreading misinformation. I was simply replying to

> > someone that also eats the bars. That's all it was. If you go

> > back and read you'll see that is what I did. This is what

> > works for me and I've lost 23 pounds because of it. I am not

> > a doctor I don't recommend it. But that is what I do. I will

> > only mention it when people ask about it.

>

> -- You spread misinformation. You did over on Ami's

group and now

> you're doing it here. This is why so many just added your

messages to their

> killfilter or deleted them altogether. It's also why the group

responded so

> negatively to you before (and after) you were removed from it.

>

> Prime example is your message on the bars here -- you attribute

statements

> to Agatston that he did not make. He's never said you could

have popcorn

> during P1, he's never said you could have meal replacement bars

during phase

> 1, he's never said you could use Atkins bars, and he's never

said any of

> these things could be done on a daily basis. In fact, he's

publically

> stated exactly the opposite and done so time and time again.

You've made

> similar such statements and the simple fact of the matter is

that you are

> spreading inaccurate information.

>

> Several of us tried to help you on the Newbies group -- you

weren't

> interested. Folks have already tried helping you here and

you've already

> started arguing with them that they're wrong. Are you seeing a

pattern

> here?

>

> Note the name of the group -- SBD " Getting It Right " . The

members of this

> group want to do the SBD the right way. That means following

the guidelines

> of the diet as they've been developed -- not using their own

version as they

> see fit. This isn't the " SBD a la Carte " group.

>

>

>

> Reminder: The South Beach Diet is not low-carb. Nor is it low-

fat. The South Beach Diet teaches you to rely on the right carbs and

the right fats-the good ones - and enables you to live quite happily

without the bad carbs and bad fats.

>

> For more on this Way Of Eating please read " The South Beach

Diet " by Arthur Agatston, MD. ISBN 1-57954-814-8

>

>

>

> -------------------------------------------------------------------

-----------

>

[Guest guest]

Yes, this is definitely spreading misinformation. If I had just

started this week, I would be so confused because of the nonsense

is claiming to be okay. None of this is okay for phase 1 and

she is just going to confuse new people into doing things the wrong

way. This group is for learning how to " do it right, " and to support

those who are doing it right, not for doing it wrong and confusing

new people.

ann

> > I am not spreading misinformation. I was simply replying to

> > someone that also eats the bars. That's all it was. If you go

> > back and read you'll see that is what I did. This is what

> > works for me and I've lost 23 pounds because of it. I am not

> > a doctor I don't recommend it. But that is what I do. I will

> > only mention it when people ask about it.

>

> -- You spread misinformation. You did over on Ami's group

and now

> you're doing it here. This is why so many just added your

messages to their

> killfilter or deleted them altogether. It's also why the group

responded so

> negatively to you before (and after) you were removed from it.

>

> Prime example is your message on the bars here -- you attribute

statements

> to Agatston that he did not make. He's never said you could have

popcorn

> during P1, he's never said you could have meal replacement bars

during phase

> 1, he's never said you could use Atkins bars, and he's never said

any of

> these things could be done on a daily basis. In fact, he's

publically

> stated exactly the opposite and done so time and time again.

You've made

> similar such statements and the simple fact of the matter is that

you are

> spreading inaccurate information.

>

> Several of us tried to help you on the Newbies group -- you weren't

> interested. Folks have already tried helping you here and you've

already

> started arguing with them that they're wrong. Are you seeing a

pattern

> here?

>

> Note the name of the group -- SBD " Getting It Right " . The members

of this

> group want to do the SBD the right way. That means following the

guidelines

> of the diet as they've been developed -- not using their own

version as they

> see fit. This isn't the " SBD a la Carte " group.

[Guest guest]

Yes, this is definitely spreading misinformation. If I had just

started this week, I would be so confused because of the nonsense

is claiming to be okay. None of this is okay for phase 1 and

she is just going to confuse new people into doing things the wrong

way. This group is for learning how to " do it right, " and to support

those who are doing it right, not for doing it wrong and confusing

new people.

ann

> > I am not spreading misinformation. I was simply replying to

> > someone that also eats the bars. That's all it was. If you go

> > back and read you'll see that is what I did. This is what

> > works for me and I've lost 23 pounds because of it. I am not

> > a doctor I don't recommend it. But that is what I do. I will

> > only mention it when people ask about it.

>

> -- You spread misinformation. You did over on Ami's group

and now

> you're doing it here. This is why so many just added your

messages to their

> killfilter or deleted them altogether. It's also why the group

responded so

> negatively to you before (and after) you were removed from it.

>

> Prime example is your message on the bars here -- you attribute

statements

> to Agatston that he did not make. He's never said you could have

popcorn

> during P1, he's never said you could have meal replacement bars

during phase

> 1, he's never said you could use Atkins bars, and he's never said

any of

> these things could be done on a daily basis. In fact, he's

publically

> stated exactly the opposite and done so time and time again.

You've made

> similar such statements and the simple fact of the matter is that

you are

> spreading inaccurate information.

>

> Several of us tried to help you on the Newbies group -- you weren't

> interested. Folks have already tried helping you here and you've

already

> started arguing with them that they're wrong. Are you seeing a

pattern

> here?

>

> Note the name of the group -- SBD " Getting It Right " . The members

of this

> group want to do the SBD the right way. That means following the

guidelines

> of the diet as they've been developed -- not using their own

version as they

> see fit. This isn't the " SBD a la Carte " group.

[Guest guest]

If cheating and doing things her way works for her, then she

shouldn't be posting about it here and swearing it's allowed when

it's not, and confusing new people.

ann

> WOW-

> I don't see her posts that way at all! I don't eat popcorn or

bars because I am trying to change my eating habits and those things

will trigger munchy foods in me.............after all who can stop

at one bar? I certainly can't.

>

> But you old timers understand the ins and outs better then me. I

read the posts, consult me book, and decide what will work for me.

I think that is what is doing too but adding in stuff that

works for her.

>

> RE: re: Hospital Stay Ideas

>

>

> > I am not spreading misinformation. I was simply replying to

> > someone that also eats the bars. That's all it was. If you go

> > back and read you'll see that is what I did. This is what

> > works for me and I've lost 23 pounds because of it. I am not

> > a doctor I don't recommend it. But that is what I do. I will

> > only mention it when people ask about it.

>

> -- You spread misinformation. You did over on Ami's

group and now

> you're doing it here. This is why so many just added your

messages to their

> killfilter or deleted them altogether. It's also why the group

responded so

> negatively to you before (and after) you were removed from it.

>

> Prime example is your message on the bars here -- you attribute

statements

> to Agatston that he did not make. He's never said you could

have popcorn

> during P1, he's never said you could have meal replacement bars

during phase

> 1, he's never said you could use Atkins bars, and he's never

said any of

> these things could be done on a daily basis. In fact, he's

publically

> stated exactly the opposite and done so time and time again.

You've made

> similar such statements and the simple fact of the matter is

that you are

> spreading inaccurate information.

>

> Several of us tried to help you on the Newbies group -- you

weren't

> interested. Folks have already tried helping you here and

you've already

> started arguing with them that they're wrong. Are you seeing a

pattern

> here?

>

> Note the name of the group -- SBD " Getting It Right " . The

members of this

> group want to do the SBD the right way. That means following

the guidelines

> of the diet as they've been developed -- not using their own

version as they

> see fit. This isn't the " SBD a la Carte " group.

>

>

>

> Reminder: The South Beach Diet is not low-carb. Nor is it low-

fat. The South Beach Diet teaches you to rely on the right carbs and

the right fats-the good ones - and enables you to live quite happily

without the bad carbs and bad fats.

>

> For more on this Way Of Eating please read " The South Beach

Diet " by Arthur Agatston, MD. ISBN 1-57954-814-8

>

>

>

> -------------------------------------------------------------------

-----------

>

[Guest guest]

If cheating and doing things her way works for her, then she

shouldn't be posting about it here and swearing it's allowed when

it's not, and confusing new people.

ann

> WOW-

> I don't see her posts that way at all! I don't eat popcorn or

bars because I am trying to change my eating habits and those things

will trigger munchy foods in me.............after all who can stop

at one bar? I certainly can't.

>

> But you old timers understand the ins and outs better then me. I

read the posts, consult me book, and decide what will work for me.

I think that is what is doing too but adding in stuff that

works for her.

>

> RE: re: Hospital Stay Ideas

>

>

> > I am not spreading misinformation. I was simply replying to

> > someone that also eats the bars. That's all it was. If you go

> > back and read you'll see that is what I did. This is what

> > works for me and I've lost 23 pounds because of it. I am not

> > a doctor I don't recommend it. But that is what I do. I will

> > only mention it when people ask about it.

>

> -- You spread misinformation. You did over on Ami's

group and now

> you're doing it here. This is why so many just added your

messages to their

> killfilter or deleted them altogether. It's also why the group

responded so

> negatively to you before (and after) you were removed from it.

>

> Prime example is your message on the bars here -- you attribute

statements

> to Agatston that he did not make. He's never said you could

have popcorn

> during P1, he's never said you could have meal replacement bars

during phase

> 1, he's never said you could use Atkins bars, and he's never

said any of

> these things could be done on a daily basis. In fact, he's

publically

> stated exactly the opposite and done so time and time again.

You've made

> similar such statements and the simple fact of the matter is

that you are

> spreading inaccurate information.

>

> Several of us tried to help you on the Newbies group -- you

weren't

> interested. Folks have already tried helping you here and

you've already

> started arguing with them that they're wrong. Are you seeing a

pattern

> here?

>

> Note the name of the group -- SBD " Getting It Right " . The

members of this

> group want to do the SBD the right way. That means following

the guidelines

> of the diet as they've been developed -- not using their own

version as they

> see fit. This isn't the " SBD a la Carte " group.

>

>

>

> Reminder: The South Beach Diet is not low-carb. Nor is it low-

fat. The South Beach Diet teaches you to rely on the right carbs and

the right fats-the good ones - and enables you to live quite happily

without the bad carbs and bad fats.

>

> For more on this Way Of Eating please read " The South Beach

Diet " by Arthur Agatston, MD. ISBN 1-57954-814-8

>

>

>

> -------------------------------------------------------------------

-----------

>

[Guest guest]

You don't get it. He's not " upset " because you ate some bars, and

some popcorn and stayed on phase 1 for four weeks and did things

your way. He's upset because you are telling everyone that SBD says

it's okay to do things the way you did it, when SBD does NOT say

that. If you feel the need to cheat and do it your way, do not come

here saying it's okay to do whatever you want. You will only confuse

new people who are trying to actually follow SBD. and Chuck

have provided pages and exact quotes from the book showing that you

are wrong. You have provided nothing to back up what you say,

because there is nothing to back it up.

ann

> > > Dr. Agaston does say that it is alright to do that and I've

> > > been doing it since day 1. It works for me and I know my

> > > weight loss hasn't slowed down because of that. I just lost 2

> > > more pounds so I know it's not that. I'm down 23 pounds in 29

> > > days and thrilled about it!

> >

> > -- Where have you seen that Agatston says it is ok to eat

> meal

> > replacement bars as desserts, every day, or during Phase 1?

When

> has he

> > said that the Atkins bars are ok?

> >

> > It's great that you've lost weight however you've done it

without

> following

> > the guidelines of the diet. Saying that you did such and such

> without

> > negative effect is one thing, saying that Agatston says it is ok

> is an

> > entirely different matter.

> >

> >

[Guest guest]

You don't get it. He's not " upset " because you ate some bars, and

some popcorn and stayed on phase 1 for four weeks and did things

your way. He's upset because you are telling everyone that SBD says

it's okay to do things the way you did it, when SBD does NOT say

that. If you feel the need to cheat and do it your way, do not come

here saying it's okay to do whatever you want. You will only confuse

new people who are trying to actually follow SBD. and Chuck

have provided pages and exact quotes from the book showing that you

are wrong. You have provided nothing to back up what you say,

because there is nothing to back it up.

ann

> > > Dr. Agaston does say that it is alright to do that and I've

> > > been doing it since day 1. It works for me and I know my

> > > weight loss hasn't slowed down because of that. I just lost 2

> > > more pounds so I know it's not that. I'm down 23 pounds in 29

> > > days and thrilled about it!

> >

> > -- Where have you seen that Agatston says it is ok to eat

> meal

> > replacement bars as desserts, every day, or during Phase 1?

When

> has he

> > said that the Atkins bars are ok?

> >

> > It's great that you've lost weight however you've done it

without

> following

> > the guidelines of the diet. Saying that you did such and such

> without

> > negative effect is one thing, saying that Agatston says it is ok

> is an

> > entirely different matter.

> >

> >

[Guest guest]

> I can't find the websiter but it was posted on the other

> forum that I was in and that's where I got it from so it has

> been a while. You can find it in that. I know he says it's

> alright.

No , it is NOT alright and no, he did NOT say those things.

> Besides I lost all that weight with the bars and

> everything so it couldn't have been that bad for me otherwise

> he wouldn't put his stamp of approval. He said even though

> whole foods are better these are just fun too. I'm not on

> them anymore so can you please calm down and not jump down my

> throat for the things I've done. I've been successful I'm

> still with diet. I have lost 23 pounds in 29 days. I need to

> do a little research to find the website where he says it but

> it was one of those websites where he answers everyone's question.

You have had success in spite of not following the diet. You should be

proud of your weightloss and the changes you've made in your diet. However,

you have no right recommending to others that they do the same and still

consider it the SBD, phase 1, etc. You never did P1 -- you jumped straight

into P2. That worked for you -- fine. But it is NOT the recommended way to

go. The meal bars are NOT to be eaten daily -- even according to Agatston.

He has repeatedly said that the meal bars are an occasional thing, as are

the rest of the items in the Kraft line. In fact, over on the other forum,

I posted the response from the SBD organization that touts their party line

on this.

And believe me -- I'm not jumping down your throat. I'm not even putting a

great deal of effort into the replies to your posts because it isn't

necessary. What I am trying to do is the same as I tried on the Newbies

group -- to get through to you that you haven't followed the diet and should

not recommend to others that they should go your route. Many of those who

come to the SBD have been struggling for years with little or no success.

Many are desperate for a solution, any solution. Many are also easily

swayed if they think they can keep old habits and still lose weight. They

do not need someone telling them these things and encouraging them back into

patterns that have proven unsuccessful in their past.

[Guest guest]

> I can't find the websiter but it was posted on the other

> forum that I was in and that's where I got it from so it has

> been a while. You can find it in that. I know he says it's

> alright.

No , it is NOT alright and no, he did NOT say those things.

> Besides I lost all that weight with the bars and

> everything so it couldn't have been that bad for me otherwise

> he wouldn't put his stamp of approval. He said even though

> whole foods are better these are just fun too. I'm not on

> them anymore so can you please calm down and not jump down my

> throat for the things I've done. I've been successful I'm

> still with diet. I have lost 23 pounds in 29 days. I need to

> do a little research to find the website where he says it but

> it was one of those websites where he answers everyone's question.

You have had success in spite of not following the diet. You should be

proud of your weightloss and the changes you've made in your diet. However,

you have no right recommending to others that they do the same and still

consider it the SBD, phase 1, etc. You never did P1 -- you jumped straight

into P2. That worked for you -- fine. But it is NOT the recommended way to

go. The meal bars are NOT to be eaten daily -- even according to Agatston.

He has repeatedly said that the meal bars are an occasional thing, as are

the rest of the items in the Kraft line. In fact, over on the other forum,

I posted the response from the SBD organization that touts their party line

on this.

And believe me -- I'm not jumping down your throat. I'm not even putting a

great deal of effort into the replies to your posts because it isn't

necessary. What I am trying to do is the same as I tried on the Newbies

group -- to get through to you that you haven't followed the diet and should

not recommend to others that they should go your route. Many of those who

come to the SBD have been struggling for years with little or no success.

Many are desperate for a solution, any solution. Many are also easily

swayed if they think they can keep old habits and still lose weight. They

do not need someone telling them these things and encouraging them back into

patterns that have proven unsuccessful in their past.

[Guest guest]

Dr. Agaston says on page 101 From a culinary point of view it's a

perfectly ACCEPTABLE diet, for 2 or 3 weeks. After that IT GETS A

LITTLE DULL. Meaning it's fine but you will possibly start getting

bored but you will be fine if you stay longer. That's what that

means. Which is why I stayed on it for 4 weeks! The popcorn was

wrong I know that and that is why I stopped it. I make sure I state

that when I say that I did that. That's all. I will no longer speak

on this matter. I will avoid all posts about this.

> > > > Dr. Agaston does say that it is alright to do that and I've

> > > > been doing it since day 1. It works for me and I know my

> > > > weight loss hasn't slowed down because of that. I just lost

2

> > > > more pounds so I know it's not that. I'm down 23 pounds in

29

> > > > days and thrilled about it!

> > >

> > > -- Where have you seen that Agatston says it is ok to

eat

> > meal

> > > replacement bars as desserts, every day, or during Phase 1?

> When

> > has he

> > > said that the Atkins bars are ok?

> > >

> > > It's great that you've lost weight however you've done it

> without

> > following

> > > the guidelines of the diet. Saying that you did such and such

> > without

> > > negative effect is one thing, saying that Agatston says it is

ok

> > is an

> > > entirely different matter.

> > >

> > >

[Guest guest]

Dr. Agaston says on page 101 From a culinary point of view it's a

perfectly ACCEPTABLE diet, for 2 or 3 weeks. After that IT GETS A

LITTLE DULL. Meaning it's fine but you will possibly start getting

bored but you will be fine if you stay longer. That's what that

means. Which is why I stayed on it for 4 weeks! The popcorn was

wrong I know that and that is why I stopped it. I make sure I state

that when I say that I did that. That's all. I will no longer speak

on this matter. I will avoid all posts about this.

> > > > Dr. Agaston does say that it is alright to do that and I've

> > > > been doing it since day 1. It works for me and I know my

> > > > weight loss hasn't slowed down because of that. I just lost

2

> > > > more pounds so I know it's not that. I'm down 23 pounds in

29

> > > > days and thrilled about it!

> > >

> > > -- Where have you seen that Agatston says it is ok to

eat

> > meal

> > > replacement bars as desserts, every day, or during Phase 1?

> When

> > has he

> > > said that the Atkins bars are ok?

> > >

> > > It's great that you've lost weight however you've done it

> without

> > following

> > > the guidelines of the diet. Saying that you did such and such

> > without

> > > negative effect is one thing, saying that Agatston says it is

ok

> > is an

> > > entirely different matter.

> > >

> > >

[Guest guest]

> THIS IS MY LAST PAST TO YOU BECAUSE I DON'T WANT TO GET INTO.

> I MADE MISTAKES IN THE PAST. I NO LONGER CHEAT. I WAS MAKING

> A COMMENT TO SOMEONE THAT ALREADY EATS THEM IN THE GROUP.

> THEY SAID THEY WERE GOOD. THAT'S ALL I SAID. I DON'T EAT THEM

> ANYMORE I AM DOING EVERYTHING RIGHT SO PLEASE GET OFF MY

> CASE. I AM DONE RESPONDING TO YOU.

Of course you are. This is how you respond to being challenged. --

you're spreading misinformation. You're encouraging folks to pick up bad

habits that worked for you but are not a part of this plan. I, and others,

have repeatedly tried to encourage you to go a different direction and yet

you resist. I'm glad you gave up the popcorn and the daily meal replacement

bars -- you will be much better off for those decisions. However, I'm still

concerned about the misinformation you post and your " recommendations " that

can lead others to failure.

The Getting It Right group is my home group. I may only be a member, but I

care a great deal for the people on this group. I want to see them succeed.

For that reason, I spend many hours posting to this group, trying to help

folks understand the diet. For that reason I put together a lengthy doc on

how to start on P1 and plan on putting together even more material to help

those who are new to the diet and have limited understanding of what they've

gotten themselves into. During the month of March, I sent nearly *500*

posts to this group and its members. That should show how much I care about

these people.

I will not sit back and watch as someone, like yourself, comes into this

group and slowly sabotages their efforts at succeeding on this diet. This

is why I will respond to your misinformation with the correct information.

I will, as always, support my statements with documentation, websites, and

citations to make sure anyone with even the slightest doubt of the validity

of my material can review and research it himself/herself.

The members of these groups come here for support and information on how to

be successful at moving to a healthier lifestyle, losing weight, and eating

well. That's what we're all here for and that's what I'll continue to do.

[Guest guest]

Everytime I state that I did those things I admit they are wrong. I

know they are wrong which is why I don't do them anymore. That's

all. I am very proud of myself. I stopped those awful things. That's

all I'm saying about this matter. He did say these things. But I am

done with this conversation period.

> > I can't find the websiter but it was posted on the other

> > forum that I was in and that's where I got it from so it has

> > been a while. You can find it in that. I know he says it's

> > alright.

>

> No , it is NOT alright and no, he did NOT say those things.

>

> > Besides I lost all that weight with the bars and

> > everything so it couldn't have been that bad for me otherwise

> > he wouldn't put his stamp of approval. He said even though

> > whole foods are better these are just fun too. I'm not on

> > them anymore so can you please calm down and not jump down my

> > throat for the things I've done. I've been successful I'm

> > still with diet. I have lost 23 pounds in 29 days. I need to

> > do a little research to find the website where he says it but

> > it was one of those websites where he answers everyone's

question.

>

> You have had success in spite of not following the diet. You

should be

> proud of your weightloss and the changes you've made in your

diet. However,

> you have no right recommending to others that they do the same and

still

> consider it the SBD, phase 1, etc. You never did P1 -- you jumped

straight

> into P2. That worked for you -- fine. But it is NOT the

recommended way to

> go. The meal bars are NOT to be eaten daily -- even according to

Agatston.

> He has repeatedly said that the meal bars are an occasional thing,

as are

> the rest of the items in the Kraft line. In fact, over on the

other forum,

> I posted the response from the SBD organization that touts their

party line

> on this.

>

> And believe me -- I'm not jumping down your throat. I'm not even

putting a

> great deal of effort into the replies to your posts because it

isn't

> necessary. What I am trying to do is the same as I tried on the

Newbies

> group -- to get through to you that you haven't followed the diet

and should

> not recommend to others that they should go your route. Many of

those who

> come to the SBD have been struggling for years with little or no

success.

> Many are desperate for a solution, any solution. Many are also

easily

> swayed if they think they can keep old habits and still lose

weight. They

> do not need someone telling them these things and encouraging them

back into

> patterns that have proven unsuccessful in their past.

>

>

[Guest guest]

Everytime I state that I did those things I admit they are wrong. I

know they are wrong which is why I don't do them anymore. That's

all. I am very proud of myself. I stopped those awful things. That's

all I'm saying about this matter. He did say these things. But I am

done with this conversation period.

> > I can't find the websiter but it was posted on the other

> > forum that I was in and that's where I got it from so it has

> > been a while. You can find it in that. I know he says it's

> > alright.

>

> No , it is NOT alright and no, he did NOT say those things.

>

> > Besides I lost all that weight with the bars and

> > everything so it couldn't have been that bad for me otherwise

> > he wouldn't put his stamp of approval. He said even though

> > whole foods are better these are just fun too. I'm not on

> > them anymore so can you please calm down and not jump down my

> > throat for the things I've done. I've been successful I'm

> > still with diet. I have lost 23 pounds in 29 days. I need to

> > do a little research to find the website where he says it but

> > it was one of those websites where he answers everyone's

question.

>

> You have had success in spite of not following the diet. You

should be

> proud of your weightloss and the changes you've made in your

diet. However,

> you have no right recommending to others that they do the same and

still

> consider it the SBD, phase 1, etc. You never did P1 -- you jumped

straight

> into P2. That worked for you -- fine. But it is NOT the

recommended way to

> go. The meal bars are NOT to be eaten daily -- even according to

Agatston.

> He has repeatedly said that the meal bars are an occasional thing,

as are

> the rest of the items in the Kraft line. In fact, over on the

other forum,

> I posted the response from the SBD organization that touts their

party line

> on this.

>

> And believe me -- I'm not jumping down your throat. I'm not even

putting a

> great deal of effort into the replies to your posts because it

isn't

> necessary. What I am trying to do is the same as I tried on the

Newbies

> group -- to get through to you that you haven't followed the diet

and should

> not recommend to others that they should go your route. Many of

those who

> come to the SBD have been struggling for years with little or no

success.

> Many are desperate for a solution, any solution. Many are also

easily

> swayed if they think they can keep old habits and still lose

weight. They

> do not need someone telling them these things and encouraging them

back into

> patterns that have proven unsuccessful in their past.

>

>

[Guest guest]

Everytime I state that I did those things I admit they are wrong. I

know they are wrong which is why I don't do them anymore. That's

all. I am very proud of myself. I stopped those awful things. That's

all I'm saying about this matter. He did say these things. But I am

done with this conversation period.

> > I can't find the websiter but it was posted on the other

> > forum that I was in and that's where I got it from so it has

> > been a while. You can find it in that. I know he says it's

> > alright.

>

> No , it is NOT alright and no, he did NOT say those things.

>

> > Besides I lost all that weight with the bars and

> > everything so it couldn't have been that bad for me otherwise

> > he wouldn't put his stamp of approval. He said even though

> > whole foods are better these are just fun too. I'm not on

> > them anymore so can you please calm down and not jump down my

> > throat for the things I've done. I've been successful I'm

> > still with diet. I have lost 23 pounds in 29 days. I need to

> > do a little research to find the website where he says it but

> > it was one of those websites where he answers everyone's

question.

>

> You have had success in spite of not following the diet. You

should be

> proud of your weightloss and the changes you've made in your

diet. However,

> you have no right recommending to others that they do the same and

still

> consider it the SBD, phase 1, etc. You never did P1 -- you jumped

straight

> into P2. That worked for you -- fine. But it is NOT the

recommended way to

> go. The meal bars are NOT to be eaten daily -- even according to

Agatston.

> He has repeatedly said that the meal bars are an occasional thing,

as are

> the rest of the items in the Kraft line. In fact, over on the

other forum,

> I posted the response from the SBD organization that touts their

party line

> on this.

>

> And believe me -- I'm not jumping down your throat. I'm not even

putting a

> great deal of effort into the replies to your posts because it

isn't

> necessary. What I am trying to do is the same as I tried on the

Newbies

> group -- to get through to you that you haven't followed the diet

and should

> not recommend to others that they should go your route. Many of

those who

> come to the SBD have been struggling for years with little or no

success.

> Many are desperate for a solution, any solution. Many are also

easily

> swayed if they think they can keep old habits and still lose

weight. They

> do not need someone telling them these things and encouraging them

back into

> patterns that have proven unsuccessful in their past.

>

>