Flax Seed Oil

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Hello Sharon!

Thought this would interest you.

Don't understand all of this yet [brain fog - too late - still must finish

church

bulletin tonight!!!], but will study it later.

Iona

BU007@... wrote:

> Hi Everyone,

> On June 1, Lee (MLHowe) wrote a post describing how she has been

> taking flax seed oil and feels that it has made a significant improvement in

> her eye involvement symptoms associated with Grave's disease.

> I was very interested in this post and the subsequent posts and today

> I've spent a couple hours researching flax seed oil to see how it might be

> connected to the eye or to the thyroid. While I wasn't able to find anything

> directly related to either, I did run across some interesting information

> which may connect it to the nutrition of the thyroid.

> We have seen that selenium is critically important in the health of

> the thyroid and I ran across studies which have connected selenium nutrition

> with flax seed oil (flax seed is the same as linseed).

> As we have talked about before, selenium and vitamin E work together.

> Animal researchers have found a disease in animals called nutritional

> degenerative myopathy and this disease has been studied for many years.

> Myopathy is a disease of the muscles (cardiomyopathy is a degeneration of the

> heart muscles). The disease is also called " white muscle disease " because

> the muscles lose their red color. I will get back to this whiteness of the

> muscles later.

> Researchers can create myopathy by putting animals on a diet

> deficient in vitamin E and selenium. Interestingly if the researchers then

> feed these deficient animals polyunsaturated vegetable oils, especially

> flaxseed (usually called linseed) oil, then the myopathy increases in

> severity. Before you get worried about consuming flaxseed oil, let's look at

> other information.

> Some farm animals eat plants grown in high selenium soils and get

> selenium toxicity. Other animals that are deficient in selenium are often

> given selenium shots and researchers have found that it's relatively easy to

> give animals too much selenium and induce selenium toxicity. The difference

> between too little selenium and too much selenium is sometimes not very great.

> However, researchers have found that flaxseed oil can protect animals

> from selenium toxicity when the animals ingest too much selenium. They have

> isolated two substances, linustatin and neolinustatin, from flaxseed that

> appear to be the substances which provide the protection from selenium

> toxicity. Unfortunately the research on these two substances has not

> progressed beyond their identification.

> This evidence from these studies is, on the surface, very confusing

> and contradictory, since flax seems to both induce a selenium deficiency and

> to also protect against selenium toxicity. This is very similar to what

> we've seen over and over again: one nutrient may cause a deficiency of

> another and yet, on the other hand, may prevent the other nutrient from

> becoming toxic. This fits the pattern of what we've seen as nutrients that

> work together. (Copper depletes zinc, yet protects from excess zinc, and

> vice versa. B-12 depletes iron, yet protects from iron overload. Etc.)

> I think that there is something in flaxseed oil (it may be the

> linustatin and/or neolinustatin) that enables selenium to be better utilized

> in the body. Without this necessary lipid component, selenium may not be

> well utilized, and could even be toxic. Could a deficiency of this lipid

> component contribute to hyperT? I don't know but it's an interesting

> possibility.

> In past research, I've found that consumption of polyunsaturarated

> fats (PUFAs) increases a copper deficiency and may contribute to thyroid

> disease. This is why increasing the consumption of saturated fats (from

> meat) helps at least the hyperT side of the thyroid problems (because it

> causes you to consume less PUFAs). Now we see that PUFA consumption will

> also increase the severity of a selenium deficiency. I've found some

> evidence in the literature of a copper-selenium interaction and this may be a

> connecting link.

> Getting back to the " white muscle disease " , I'm wondering that if

> selenium deficiency is the cause and there is a connection between selenium

> and copper (perhaps a selenium deficiency causes a copper deficiency), then

> maybe the white muscle condition is from a copper deficiency in the muscles

> (lack of hemoglobin from a copper deficiency). We've seen that in hyperT

> (which appears to be caused by selenium and copper deficiencies), there is a

> wasting of the muscles (catabolism). Is there a connection between this

> myopathy of " white muscle disease " and hyperT? It's intriguing.

> It looks like there is a connection between flaxseed oil and selenium

> metabolism (and of course there could be other connections to the thyroid).

> If my thinking on this is correct, then the effects of taking flaxseed oil

> will depend upon your selenium and copper status. If you are taking both

> selenium and copper, or at least are not deficient in either, then flaxseed

> oil should be a benefit to your thyroid condition because it will assist the

> selenium and copper utilization. However, if you are deficient in either

> selenium or copper, then taking flaxseed oil could make this deficiency worse

> and increase the severity of your thyroid condition. Has anyone had any

> negative effects from flax, and were you taking copper and selenium at the

> time?

> I have used flaxseed oil and usually used it on salads either alone

> or mixed with olive oil. However, I can't say that I noticed any effects

> either way, but then I was pretty well recovered from hyperT before I tried

> it.

> Some researchers seemed to find differences between females and males

> in the effects from flaxseed oil. However, there wasn't enough information

> to draw any conclusions. It's possible that females need more of this type

> of fat than males. I'll continue to search for more information and will let

> you know if I find anything significant. I've included a paper on the

> nutritional components of flaxseed oil at the end. (I'm also interested in

> the part about " raising urinary thiocyanate excretion 2.2-fold " since the

> thiol groups (sulfur) are the active parts of PTU and tapazole which control

> the excess production of thyroid hormone.)

>

> STUDY:

> " Although high alpha-linolenic acid flaxseed (Linum usitatissimum) is one of

> the richest dietary sources of alpha-linolenic acid and is also a good source

> of soluble fibre mucilage, it is relatively unstudied in human nutrition.

> Healthy female volunteers consumed 50 g ground, raw flaxseed/d for 4 weeks

> which provided 12-13% of energy intake (24-25 g/100 g total fat). Flaxseed

> raised alpha-linolenic acid and long-chain n-3 fatty acids in both plasma and

> erythrocyte lipids, as well as raising urinary thiocyanate excretion

> 2.2-fold. Flaxseed also lowered serum total cholesterol by 9% and

> low-density-lipoprotein-cholesterol by 18%. Changes in plasma alpha-linolenic

> acid were equivalent when 12 g alpha-linolenic acid/d was provided as raw

> flaxseed flour (50 g/d) or flaxseed oil (20 g/d) suggesting high

> bioavailability of alpha-linolenic acid from ground flaxseed. Test meals

> containing 50 g carbohydrate from flaxseed or 25 g flaxseed mucilage each

> significantly decreased postprandial blood glucose responses by 27%.

> Malondialdehyde levels in muffins containing 15 g flaxseed oil or flour/kg

> were similar to those in wheat-flour muffins. Cyanogenic glycosides

> (linamarin, linustatin, neolinustatin) were highest in extracted flaxseed

> mucilage but were not detected in baked muffins containing 150 g flaxseed/kg.

> We conclude that up to 50 g high-alpha-linolenic acid flaxseed/d is

> palatable, safe and may be nutritionally beneficial in humans by raising n-3

> fatty acids in plasma and erythrocytes and by decreasing postprandial glucose

> responses. "

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Hello!

I can't tell you what you should do in your case, but in my case, it wouldn't be

a very good idea. Even

exercise right now is very hard for me. I get breathless and my heart rate goes

up and may be irregular.

I'm better than I was, but still have a long way to go yet.

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> Is it really a good idea to increase your heart rate with hyperthyroid? Has

anyone checked with a Dr.?

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[Guest guest]

I know this oil is excellent when taken internally, but seems to me all

benefits are lost when it is heated.

in T.O.

Does anyone have experience/knowledge of flax seed oil in soap? SAP

value,

benefits to skin in soap, lather ability. I have access to some of this

oil, but

can't try it until I have more info. TIA.

Vera

Fleur de lis Botanicals

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Kit Keyes [kit.keyes@...] wrote:

>

> I eat cheap fish oil supplements ...

heres a tip for fish oil supps, EFAs break down very quickly in light or air,

many sups are poorly made, break open a capsule, if it tastes rancid or sour

take it back and get a refund, its worthless.

Deus

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Essential fatty acids. In layman's terms, which is about all I can understand myself with some things, is that this "good fat" will actually help you lose bad fat. Fat is necessary as you know, to things like skin, and tendons, etc. And if your body can trust you to take in a little fat everyday and trust you to take in proper nutrients for energy and muscle building, then it will shed the fat it is holding in reserve.

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> My mother cannot have cottage cheese or yoghurt. Can anyone advise

> if there is another way she can take the flax seed oil so that she

> can benefit?

>

> Jackie

Yes, I tbsp of FSO with 1 capsule of Bio San Companion Nutrients

available from...

www.naturesdistributors.com

lotecq

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Transcript of a tape on Budwig is at:

http://www.public.usit.net/spinner/Flax1.html

They talk about Nature's Distributors in Arizona, 1-800-624-7114, has a

product called " Companion Nutrients " that are capsules containing dried

sulfurated proteins and enzymes which activate the essential fatty acids.

They guarantee that one capsule will activate one Tbsp. of oil.

Melinda Wiman

www.cancure.org

Cancer Cure Foundation

[ ] Flax Seed Oil

> My mother cannot have cottage cheese or yoghurt. Can anyone advise

> if there is another way she can take the flax seed oil so that she

> can benefit?

>

> Jackie

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Thanks to everyone who sent information.

Jackie

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Hi --

I take flax seed oil with a mixture of organic soy milk, organic basmati rice milk, oatmilk, peaches, bananas, mangos and lots of other good things.

It is made by Odwalla, comes in quart or half gallon sizes and has 7 grams of protein. I have read that you can take flax seed oil with either soy or rice milk if you don't want to use dairy products.

This is a delicious way to take it.

Best wishes,

DJ

[Guest guest]

Thanks for this information - how many times a day would she need to take this? And is this a beneficial as taking it naturally?

[ ] Re: Flax Seed Oil

> My mother cannot have cottage cheese or yoghurt. Can anyone advise > if there is another way she can take the flax seed oil so that she > can benefit? > > JackieYes, I tbsp of FSO with 1 capsule of Bio San Companion Nutrients available from...www.naturesdistributors.comlotecqLearn more about cancer:http://home.online.no/~dusan/diseases/cancer/http://home.online.no/~dusan/diseases/cancer/faq.htmhttp://www.geocities.com/~mycleanse/http://www.geocities.com/HotSprings/1158You are receiving this email because you elected to subscribe to the egroups.

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Yes ! Margaret ,

It was I . 14 days now , I still see improvements , behavior and his

skin , and the dry scalp are fading out . This information was given

from a mother of a 22 yr .old DS son, who had psorasis . I add Flax

seed oil daily (1tbs) to his diet . It must be hi-lignan cool

pressed, virgin , raw flax oil , organic high quality lignan

available at a good health store . Trying it out for 3 months . It is

also mentioned that it can reduce Attention Deficit and depression .

The only medication my son is taking is Trazadone to help with his

sleep . He is also taking a Multi-vitamin/Multi-mineral formula .

Once we finish this dietary supplement . I'm MIGHT contact

Mannatech , a multi-level marketing company that has some excellent

products for the immune system . Some Autistic and Down's Syndrome

kids have been taking several PhtyoBears (one of the Mannatech

products , they taste like GummiBears) a day with pretty amazing

results . They're completely safe and worth looking into .

Supplements could be expensive , results seen are wonderful , health

is more important . It makes one of the best minerals . I too , had

to find ways for my son to not get dehydrated . He hates drinking

water . What has worked are watered down 100% cranberry juice , rice

milk , alot of the sugar free Lemon or Lime Naturally Flavored

Sparkling Water Bev. When very active Gatorade . Every now and then

he'll drink a very cold bottled water with a straw . Luck with the

vitamins that you purchased , make sure no artificial sweetners,

colors or flavors . But, remember every body system is different and

what I had mentioned worked for my son . I'm going to stop

yapping away . Take Care .

Irma , 12, DS/ASD.

> >> Irma....is it you that was going to try the flax seed oil?

Someone

> was telling us how good it is. K-Mart had vitamins on sale, so I

bought a

> bottle of them. Guess the way I look at it, it can't

hurt........can it

> Joan?!?!?

> Take care, Everyone.

> Margaret

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[Guest guest]

Thanx - its pretty good stuff!

Rita

FLax seed oil

I read an articl on flax seed oil.I went and got some about 3 weeks

ago. I had ance really bad and eveything I tried would not clear it

up.After 3 weeks my face has cleared up,my hubby couldn't belive the

difference in my face.Just thought I would pass that along to eveyone.

Saphire

[Guest guest]

'd have to agree with this, atleast in my case. A few weeks after I

started taking Udo's oil, my skin totally cleared up. I don't have

BAD skin, but I get one or two zits around TOM and they leave little

marks on my skin for a long time. So, this is a VERY good thing.

Astra

> Thanx - its pretty good stuff!

> Rita

> FLax seed oil

>

>

> I read an articl on flax seed oil.I went and got some about 3

weeks

> ago. I had ance really bad and eveything I tried would not clear

it

> up.After 3 weeks my face has cleared up,my hubby couldn't belive

the

> difference in my face.Just thought I would pass that along to

eveyone.

>

>

>

> Saphire

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

I give my daughter 2 teaspoons a day and she weighs 24 pounds and she is

2.ne

[Guest guest]

or too much.

i was taking a teaspoon a day (115lbs)

buy as small a bottle as possible, goes rancid suprisingly quickly,

even if refrigerated

>

>

> How much Flax are you all giving?

>

> I've heard people say this has helped? We give him about three

> teaspoons a day.

>

> Is that not enough?

>

> He's 2 1/2 and about 33 pounds.

[Guest guest]

My daughters speech improved dramatically of flax oil.She went from speaking

one word to so words in less than a month!ne

[Guest guest]

Sorry! I meant to say 30 words and not so words! I can't type today!!!ne

[Guest guest]

Okay.

Thos who said it worked . . . I guess you just saw fewer behaviors ...

because that was something that when we add it I don't see any

difference, but I keep giving him because it's an EFA and he doesn't get

much other fat.

[ ] Re: Flax Seed Oil

or too much.

i was taking a teaspoon a day (115lbs)

buy as small a bottle as possible, goes rancid suprisingly quickly,

even if refrigerated

>

>

> How much Flax are you all giving?

>

> I've heard people say this has helped? We give him about three

> teaspoons a day.

>

> Is that not enough?

>

> He's 2 1/2 and about 33 pounds.

[Guest guest]

I had great success using flax oil anywhere you'd use normal oil (but don't

cook with it, use after heating food). I put it on pasta with some salt,

garlic powder, sometimes soy margarine or on salad. It actually has a

pleasant kind of nutty taste. I now also buy flax seeds whole and grind them

and mix in his cereal. It's helped alot with his constipation.

In a message dated 8/2/2002 1:21:58 PM Eastern Daylight Time,

rlegg@... writes:

> for the cross-postings !!! After reading several of the postings about

> flax-seed oil I have decided to try it with my 4yr old daughter. I went

> with the liquid because the gel cap looked so big, I didn't think she would

> sallow. I can barely hide a small clonidine pill in applesauce without her

> finding it. This afternoon, I tried mixing one tablespoon with a good amt

> of pudding (i thought I could hide the taste). WRONG !! After giving her

> about 3 bites, she spit it out at me. She doesn't have any eating problems &

> will eat just about anything but she can be really stubborn. I have tried

> to disquise chocolate soy milk (1/4) with her regular chocolate milk (3/4) &

> now she refuses to drink any of the milk (normal milk -- no soy). Does any

> one of any ideas that would help with masking the smell & helping with

> content of the oilyness with different foods. Any suggestions would be

> appreciate it. I hope I can figure something out. If not, I just wasted $20

> !! Thanks for any suggestions !!

>

[Guest guest]

> Sorry for the cross-postings !!! After reading several of the

postings about flax-seed oil I have decided to try it with my 4yr old

daughter. I went with the liquid because the gel cap looked so big, I

didn't think she would sallow. I can barely hide a small clonidine

pill in applesauce without her finding it. This afternoon, I tried

mixing one tablespoon with a good amt of pudding (i thought I could

hide the taste). WRONG !! After giving her about 3 bites, she spit it

out at me. She doesn't have any eating problems & will eat just about

anything but she can be really stubborn. I have tried to disquise

chocolate soy milk (1/4) with her regular chocolate milk (3/4) & now

she refuses to drink any of the milk (normal milk -- no soy). Does any

one of any ideas that would help with masking the smell & helping with

content of the oilyness with different foods. Any suggestions would

be appreciate it. I hope I can figure something out. If not, I just

wasted $20 !! Thanks for any suggestions !!

>

Hi

My daughter used to find the medicine in all of her food, too. Didn't

matter if it was disguised in pudding or soup--she caught on and then

refused to eat the pudding or soup at any other time, even if there

was no medicine!

A couple of things we did that worked--we found a pharmacist who would

add different flavours, etc to the medicine, so it was unfamiliar. We

stopped hiding the medicine and just gave it to her " straight " . As

soon as she got it in her mouth we praised her for being a big girl

and the second she swallowed, we popped a Skittle or jelly bean in her

mouth.

She doesn't get candy very often, so it was a treat--and it helped

mask the aftertaste.

We've also given her 1/2 a freeze pop, then given her some medicine,

then given the other 1/2 of the freezie. The cold numbs her taste

buds and then she doesn't taste the medicine.

My daughter is 5 and she will take any liquid medicine or vitamin

(including cod liver oil). She doesn't like it, but we don't get the

eating problems or tantrums anymore.

Good luck!

Leanne

>

>

[Guest guest]

I don't have any suggestions other than maybe put it on toast? That's how I

eat it....For her, that might not work.

What about buying Flax Seed? Then you can grind them and cook them into

just about anything....

Good Luck!

Penny

flax seed oil

Sorry for the cross-postings !!! After reading several of the postings

about flax-seed oil I have decided to try it with my 4yr old daughter. I

went with the liquid because the gel cap looked so big, I didn't think she

would sallow. I can barely hide a small clonidine pill in applesauce without

her finding it. This afternoon, I tried mixing one tablespoon with a good

amt of pudding (i thought I could hide the taste). WRONG !! After giving

her about 3 bites, she spit it out at me. She doesn't have any eating

problems & will eat just about anything but she can be really stubborn. I

have tried to disquise chocolate soy milk (1/4) with her regular chocolate

milk (3/4) & now she refuses to drink any of the milk (normal milk -- no

soy). Does any one of any ideas that would help with masking the smell &

helping with content of the oilyness with different foods. Any suggestions

would be appreciate it. I hope I can figure something out. If not, I just

wasted $20 !! Thanks for any suggestions !!

[Guest guest]

I do take flax oil - 1 TBLSP a day. It really helps keep me feeling full

longer, along with all the other health benefits.

Park

Flax Seed Oil

Do you take it? Recommend it?

I hate fish so someone advised me to take some daily??

Any advice would be great!

Also, do you take Betagen? Recommend it?

THANKS!

[Guest guest]

I used to take it, I preferred Canola oil though (it helped immensely with my

eczema). But now I take salmon oil capsules about three times a day. Many

people have raved about UDO's oil (UDO's is the brand) and swear by that. I

would recommend *some* EFA supplement especially if you aren't big on eating

fish (even tuna??) since the benefits are great.

nortina

Flax Seed Oil

Do you take it? Recommend it?

I hate fish so someone advised me to take some daily??

Any advice would be great!

Also, do you take Betagen? Recommend it?

THANKS!

[Guest guest]

Hi Cheryl!

First of all - WOW - you are doing great on the program! 15 lbs in 5 weeks is

awesome!

Secondly, I wanted to tell you my kids are the same way! I give them their

cereal in the morning and all they want is my oatmeal or my egg white/potato/ham

breakfast casserole! It is expensive to eat healthily - I can sympathize.

Anyway, way to go and welcome to our group!

Park

Flax Seed Oil

Hi, I am new to this group and have been reading your posts for about

a week. They have been both helpful and entertaining! I have been

doing BFL for about 5 weeks now and have lost 15 lbs. My husband is

doing it with me so it has been great for support and accountability.

I am also a nursing mom so I feel like I have an ace in the pocket

for calorie, and hopefully, fat burning. At first I was worried that

I was eating to much but I guess it is all working as it should.

My question is with the flax seed oil. I hadn't heard of it before

reading this weeks posts. Is it okay to eat the natural form of flax

seed? I don't care much for suppliments and would like to keep it as

natural and inexpensive as possible. There is flax seed in Uncle

Sam's cereal. I am also a stay at home, homeschooling mom of 4 and

would like to incorporate more healthy eating into their diets and

cut down on the sugar. I would love any suggestions. I have found

that a sort of " reverse psychology " works as I've made meals and

snacks for my husband and have told the kids it's not for them...it

was our " health " food so they are dying to eat our stuff ( it has

been too expensive for everyone to eat that way and I am trying to

figure out how to swing it). Anyway, the other day I cooked some

winter squash, which we never eat besides it not looking to good, and

I was asking who wanted to try it. My meat and potato eating 4yr old

inquires " is it healthy, mom? " I said yes, so he wanted to try it.

How's that for going against the old 'I'm not going to try it 'cause

it is good for you'?

Well, I didn't mean to write a book! Thanks for reading and for any

input!!

Cheryl

[Guest guest]

> My question is with the flax seed oil. I hadn't heard of it before

> reading this weeks posts. Is it okay to eat the natural form of flax

> seed?

Yup, as long as it's ground up! Then you get the benefit of tons of

fiber, too. The whole seeds look like tiny black/dark brown pumpkin

seed and are undigestible. Ground up, it looks like a very course flour

or grain. When ground, it releases all the good oils for you to use!

> natural and inexpensive as possible. There is flax seed in Uncle

> Sam's cereal.

Probably not as much as you really need tho. 1 tablespoon of the oil has

the same EFAs as 7.5 tablespoons of flaxseed meal. And I really wouldn't

recommend over 1/4 cup a day of the meal just for, uhm, digestive reasons.

My newest way of eating flax is to take about 3oz of extra firm tofu and

mash it with a fork, add some splenda and cinnamon, and microwave for 50

seconds. Remove, add 1 Tablespoon of flaxseed meal, nuke for another 20

seconds. The texture is a little weird, but it's kind of like a very

lumpy oatmeal to me. Pair up with a small piece of fruit and you're good

to go!

Other way I've eaten it is to take 1/4c and just add nearly-boiling water

and a bunch of sugar-free maple syrup to cream-of-wheat consistency.

Or to add flaxseed meal to egg whites and flavorings, bake lightly, to

make a sort of dense muffin-thing.

BTW, you can buy ground flaxseed, usually in the 'health food' section of

your grocery store, a bulk section, or a co-op. I usually get Bob's

Redmill brand. As soon as you get it home, dump the contents into a

tupperware container and store it in the freezer to keep fresh, as the

good oils, the ones we're after, can go rancid fairly easily.

Oh, and ONE OTHER WAY! (hah, I love my flax!) is to get the omega-3 rich

eggs. They're a little more pricy, but the important thing is to EAT THE

YOLK on these: that's where the good stuff is. If you just eat the

whites, yer wasting money! So maybe use one whole egg of the omega-3

stuff and then get the rest of your egg whites from egg beaters or cheaper

eggs.

> How's that for going against the old 'I'm not going to try it 'cause

> it is good for you'?

Heh, funny thing is, I was thinking about this old habit this morning as I

was eating the above-mentioned crazy-health-nut mush and thinking about

how far I've come from the bowls of frootloops in college. My

boyfriend, of course, won't touch ANY of my food that has the word

" organic " on the packaging. Hey, more for me! But often I can sneak good

healthy stuff into meals that I make and he won't even notice, as long as

I don't tell him!

-- gnat!