Re: considering implants

January 5, 2008

Well, I can't tell you what to do, but I will say that I have been sick with an autoimmune illness relating to a history of implants now for over 15 years. The first question that I have been routinely asked at every Rheumatologist I have seen is, "Does anyone in your family have any autoimmune disease?" Of course the answer is yes....

I studied to be an RN, lacking two courses of completing my degree. I still knew little about the problems people face with autoimmune disorders or the pain they suffer with. I thought arthritis was something that old people got and it caused some pain in their joints... Well, at 48, I got the message loud and clear... It is definitely NOT the pain you hear about in the Advil ads on television and it is definitely NOT just in the joints...

Further, once the immune system makes autoantibodies against various tissues in your body, it will always be programmed (so to speak) to do this. Removal of foreign devices does not guarantee that your problems will go away... Autoantibodies remain-these are the crux of various autoimmune disorders. These levels can rise and fall with flareups of the diseases they cause.

My implants were removed 15 years ago. The leakage and rupture has affected my health to a degree I could never have imagined. My daughter, following in my footsteps, also got implants. When health issues became a problem, her Neurologist got the implant package insert, which said something to the effect that if the patient developed autoimmune issues (cannot recall exact wording), the implants should be removed... The letter he wrote to her insurance company, stating this, was enough to get them to pay for explantation-something I don't think most insurances will pay for now...

Think long and hard about this... You may not have the shapely figure that Hollywood and Cosmo promote, but I bet you are healthy and in good shape and can do anything you feel like doing... Many

us would gladly trade with you...

I am 29 with two kids, bra size a 32B (very small . I would like

>implants but I am scared. RA runs in my family, my mom and grandma. I

>have 5 friends with implants and they are all very happy. I just dont

>know what to do.

>

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January 5, 2008

Well, I can't tell you what to do, but I will say that I have been sick with an autoimmune illness relating to a history of implants now for over 15 years. The first question that I have been routinely asked at every Rheumatologist I have seen is, "Does anyone in your family have any autoimmune disease?" Of course the answer is yes....

I studied to be an RN, lacking two courses of completing my degree. I still knew little about the problems people face with autoimmune disorders or the pain they suffer with. I thought arthritis was something that old people got and it caused some pain in their joints... Well, at 48, I got the message loud and clear... It is definitely NOT the pain you hear about in the Advil ads on television and it is definitely NOT just in the joints...

Further, once the immune system makes autoantibodies against various tissues in your body, it will always be programmed (so to speak) to do this. Removal of foreign devices does not guarantee that your problems will go away... Autoantibodies remain-these are the crux of various autoimmune disorders. These levels can rise and fall with flareups of the diseases they cause.

My implants were removed 15 years ago. The leakage and rupture has affected my health to a degree I could never have imagined. My daughter, following in my footsteps, also got implants. When health issues became a problem, her Neurologist got the implant package insert, which said something to the effect that if the patient developed autoimmune issues (cannot recall exact wording), the implants should be removed... The letter he wrote to her insurance company, stating this, was enough to get them to pay for explantation-something I don't think most insurances will pay for now...

Think long and hard about this... You may not have the shapely figure that Hollywood and Cosmo promote, but I bet you are healthy and in good shape and can do anything you feel like doing... Many

us would gladly trade with you...

I am 29 with two kids, bra size a 32B (very small . I would like

>implants but I am scared. RA runs in my family, my mom and grandma. I

>have 5 friends with implants and they are all very happy. I just dont

>know what to do.

>

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January 5, 2008

In a message dated 1/5/08 8:33:20 PM, dana.plummer@... writes:

I just wonder why so many people ignore all these bad things that can

happen. I have been condsidering this for over 5 years and I get

close and then get scared.

Why? Well, I think it is because big breasts are promoted by Hollywood and various publications to an unbelievable degree. It has gotten to the point where small-breasted women are treated like this is an abnormal condition, even by doctors. There is a medical term for this, something like hypomammarymania.... :)

Also, women who have had children sometimes have a rude awakening. The "perk" that was there in our little A and B cups has migrated south of the Equator...

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January 5, 2008

In a message dated 1/5/08 8:33:20 PM, dana.plummer@... writes:

I just wonder why so many people ignore all these bad things that can

happen. I have been condsidering this for over 5 years and I get

close and then get scared.

Why? Well, I think it is because big breasts are promoted by Hollywood and various publications to an unbelievable degree. It has gotten to the point where small-breasted women are treated like this is an abnormal condition, even by doctors. There is a medical term for this, something like hypomammarymania.... :)

Also, women who have had children sometimes have a rude awakening. The "perk" that was there in our little A and B cups has migrated south of the Equator...

**************Start the year off right. Easy ways to stay in shape. http://body.aol.com/fitness/winter-exercise?NCID=aolcmp00300000002489

January 6, 2008

As you can tell by my email address, I once thought I wanted a BA too. (about a month ago now actually) But I've been following these posts, and I've learned to appreciate my health. Now I'm joining these women in ridding my body of toxins and unnecessary flora (in my case- major yeast overgrowth due to long-term antibiotic use and sugar addiction), and I'm doing so with my natural breasts. I've really learned to see them in a new light. Stay on the board for a while- read the posts and see if you feel different about your breasts in general.Every time I read a story of explant (www.explantation.com has many stories) I feel so relieved for the

women when they get them out. It just feels like a happy ending. So why start the scary story if you have the happy ending now? Read the stories here (saline support), there (www.explantation.com), and on these posts and see how you're feeling. It might alter the way you view your own body that you have right now. considering implants

I am 29 with two kids, bra size a 32B (very small . I would like

implants but I am scared. RA runs in my family, my mom and grandma. I

have 5 friends with implants and they are all very happy. I just dont

know what to do.

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January 6, 2008

As you can tell by my email address, I once thought I wanted a BA too. (about a month ago now actually) But I've been following these posts, and I've learned to appreciate my health. Now I'm joining these women in ridding my body of toxins and unnecessary flora (in my case- major yeast overgrowth due to long-term antibiotic use and sugar addiction), and I'm doing so with my natural breasts. I've really learned to see them in a new light. Stay on the board for a while- read the posts and see if you feel different about your breasts in general.Every time I read a story of explant (www.explantation.com has many stories) I feel so relieved for the

women when they get them out. It just feels like a happy ending. So why start the scary story if you have the happy ending now? Read the stories here (saline support), there (www.explantation.com), and on these posts and see how you're feeling. It might alter the way you view your own body that you have right now. considering implants

I am 29 with two kids, bra size a 32B (very small . I would like

implants but I am scared. RA runs in my family, my mom and grandma. I

have 5 friends with implants and they are all very happy. I just dont

know what to do.

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January 6, 2008

Dana,

Everyone who gets implants is individual, and it also depends on how

long your friends have had them.

Some women are immediate responders, they become ill very quickly.

Some women are slower responders, 6-8 years on average. Sometimes

they have symptoms along the way, but they never contribute them to implants.

Some women can go longer, I have a sister in law who had them for

many years, has problems now but refuses to see that the implants are

causing them.

Check our archives for stores on women and implants. There are so

many who have had problems. It is so hard to get the truth from

doctors anymore.

Ask specific questions once you read some of the past stories.

I am sure you will hear from women who have had big problems and

thought they would be ok with implants. Many also had friends with

implants who seemingly had no problems.

Lynda

At 06:58 PM 1/5/2008, you wrote:

>I am 29 with two kids, bra size a 32B (very small . I would like

>implants but I am scared. RA runs in my family, my mom and grandma. I

>have 5 friends with implants and they are all very happy. I just dont

>know what to do.

>

January 6, 2008

Dana,

Everyone who gets implants is individual, and it also depends on how

long your friends have had them.

Some women are immediate responders, they become ill very quickly.

Some women are slower responders, 6-8 years on average. Sometimes

they have symptoms along the way, but they never contribute them to implants.

Some women can go longer, I have a sister in law who had them for

many years, has problems now but refuses to see that the implants are

causing them.

Check our archives for stores on women and implants. There are so

many who have had problems. It is so hard to get the truth from

doctors anymore.

Ask specific questions once you read some of the past stories.

I am sure you will hear from women who have had big problems and

thought they would be ok with implants. Many also had friends with

implants who seemingly had no problems.

Lynda

At 06:58 PM 1/5/2008, you wrote:

>I am 29 with two kids, bra size a 32B (very small . I would like

>implants but I am scared. RA runs in my family, my mom and grandma. I

>have 5 friends with implants and they are all very happy. I just dont

>know what to do.

>

January 6, 2008

I know you will get alot of feedback from the others on here. I can share with you a little of what has happened to me. I am 26 and had always wanted implants. Like you I was a very small B cup and I also have 2 very small children. After having my kids, I wanted implants even more.....I went in to get them after many years of looking into it. I had my implanting surgery in March 2007. Within a month I started to have digestion problems....this was just the beginning for me. As the next few months went on, I started to get more and more symptoms that included, headaches, fatigue, muscle twiching, brain fog, tingling in my arms, hands, legs and feet, memory

problems....the list goes on. I acted quick and got my implants removed at the end of Nov. 2007. I count my blessing because I only seem to have very mild affects of these symptoms. There are many people on here who struggle much more than I do. I wish I could go back to that day and tunred around and ran. It was a huge financial burden and put my health at risk. I am in the process of detoxing and trying to change my diet so I can recover fully. I feel I can get my full health back!!!!

I also know several people who have implants and seem not to have any problems - they are very happy with them. However, they may develope some problems in the future. Sometimes, it is like you are fine one day and the next day you wake up and wonder what happened to you overnight. Some of my symptoms were that sudden!!!!

I will also point out that aside from my symptoms, my breast never felt natural, I had some numbness in my right breast and always felt like I had a pulled muscle across my right breast. It also felt like sleeping on rocks, even though I did not have any capsular contractors or anything....

Please, be happy for your health and cherish it.

Beth

considering implants

I am 29 with two kids, bra size a 32B (very small . I would like implants but I am scared. RA runs in my family, my mom and grandma. I have 5 friends with implants and they are all very happy. I just dont know what to do.

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January 6, 2008

I know you will get alot of feedback from the others on here. I can share with you a little of what has happened to me. I am 26 and had always wanted implants. Like you I was a very small B cup and I also have 2 very small children. After having my kids, I wanted implants even more.....I went in to get them after many years of looking into it. I had my implanting surgery in March 2007. Within a month I started to have digestion problems....this was just the beginning for me. As the next few months went on, I started to get more and more symptoms that included, headaches, fatigue, muscle twiching, brain fog, tingling in my arms, hands, legs and feet, memory

problems....the list goes on. I acted quick and got my implants removed at the end of Nov. 2007. I count my blessing because I only seem to have very mild affects of these symptoms. There are many people on here who struggle much more than I do. I wish I could go back to that day and tunred around and ran. It was a huge financial burden and put my health at risk. I am in the process of detoxing and trying to change my diet so I can recover fully. I feel I can get my full health back!!!!

I also know several people who have implants and seem not to have any problems - they are very happy with them. However, they may develope some problems in the future. Sometimes, it is like you are fine one day and the next day you wake up and wonder what happened to you overnight. Some of my symptoms were that sudden!!!!

I will also point out that aside from my symptoms, my breast never felt natural, I had some numbness in my right breast and always felt like I had a pulled muscle across my right breast. It also felt like sleeping on rocks, even though I did not have any capsular contractors or anything....

Please, be happy for your health and cherish it.

Beth

considering implants

I am 29 with two kids, bra size a 32B (very small . I would like implants but I am scared. RA runs in my family, my mom and grandma. I have 5 friends with implants and they are all very happy. I just dont know what to do.

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January 6, 2008

I want to be happy with my natural breats, I just don't know how. I

feel like I can never find bathing suits or anything that fits. i am

5'1 " 100lbs. If I would get them, I would still want to be a 32B,

does the size you get make any difference in possible problems. I'm

sorry I am just doing all the research I can so I can make a

decision. Right now I am just getting more scared.

>

> As you can tell by my email address, I once thought I wanted a BA

too. (about a month ago now actually) But I've been following these

posts, and I've learned to appreciate my health. Now I'm joining

these women in ridding my body of toxins and unnecessary flora (in my

case- major yeast overgrowth due to long-term antibiotic use and

sugar addiction), and I'm doing so with my natural breasts. I've

really learned to see them in a new light. Stay on the board for a

while- read the posts and see if you feel different about your

breasts in general.

>

> Every time I read a story of explant (www.explantation.com has many

stories) I feel so relieved for the women when they get them out. It

just feels like a happy ending. So why start the scary story if you

have the happy ending now?

>

> Read the stories here (saline support), there

(www.explantation.com), and on these posts and see how you're

feeling. It might alter the way you view your own body that you have

right now.

>

> considering implants

>

> I am 29 with two kids, bra size a 32B (very small .

I would like

>

> implants but I am scared. RA runs in my family, my mom and

grandma. I

>

> have 5 friends with implants and they are all very happy. I just

dont

>

> know what to do.

>

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