Re: A Confession....

July 8, 2003

Speaking of threats to fertility I am sure this surgery is definetly

one I have had a period yet...in 13 months. I got one at 3 months

post partum, right after the surgery then nothing...

Not that I am complaining (its the breastfeeding too but

Shiloh

July 8, 2003

Speaking of threats to fertility I am sure this surgery is definetly

one I have had a period yet...in 13 months. I got one at 3 months

post partum, right after the surgery then nothing...

Not that I am complaining (its the breastfeeding too but

Shiloh

July 8, 2003

Speaking of threats to fertility I am sure this surgery is definetly

one I have had a period yet...in 13 months. I got one at 3 months

post partum, right after the surgery then nothing...

Not that I am complaining (its the breastfeeding too but

Shiloh

July 8, 2003

Yes give people terminology they can't discuss

But I think you meant maxillofacial surgery...

=oh yeah and I can't spell either!

I am more conservative in what I tell people now,

most people don't ask their doc questions when its them on the table.

We here are defn over educated!

Shiloh

July 8, 2003

Yes give people terminology they can't discuss

But I think you meant maxillofacial surgery...

=oh yeah and I can't spell either!

I am more conservative in what I tell people now,

most people don't ask their doc questions when its them on the table.

We here are defn over educated!

Shiloh

July 8, 2003

Well he gets points for being supportive at least. I think all

significant others seem to have a hard time being as supportive as we

need them to be leading up to the surgery. It is such an obsessive

thing. That's one reasons this board is so great. You can obsess

all you want here (I do).

Yes, I am from Texas, grew up in San , college in College

Station. Now I live in Alabama. I miss Texas, especially the food.

I have to make Mexican food, Chicken Fried steak etc myself if I want

good stuff.

Keep us updated on how things are going for you.

> > Alison,

> >

> > I am so sorry to hear that your family is not supporting you in

> > this. I have come to learn how important it is to have support

and

> > how lucky I am that all of my family and friends are there for

me.

> > Even my mother who I think belives I am crazy to do this is

driving

> > from Texas to Alabama to take care of me and my kids.

> >

> > Has you husband gone to the doctor with you? This seems to have

> > changed other peoples outlook on your decision. I know another

> girl

> > on the board said her mom (I think) changed her tune when she

went

> to

> > the surgeon with her and heard what was needed. Maybe also if

you

> > take care of the endometriosis first, your husband will have a

> > different outlook on the whole thing. I am sure he is just

scared

> > for you and believes the best way to protect you is to tell you

not

> > to do it.

> >

> > I am sure there are post-oppers here that can add to this, but I

am

> > thinking that during recovery you probably don't want any of

these

> > negative people around you.

> >

> > Good luck with whatever you decide and come here anytime you need

> > support.

> >

July 8, 2003

Well he gets points for being supportive at least. I think all

significant others seem to have a hard time being as supportive as we

need them to be leading up to the surgery. It is such an obsessive

thing. That's one reasons this board is so great. You can obsess

all you want here (I do).

Yes, I am from Texas, grew up in San , college in College

Station. Now I live in Alabama. I miss Texas, especially the food.

I have to make Mexican food, Chicken Fried steak etc myself if I want

good stuff.

Keep us updated on how things are going for you.

> > Alison,

> >

> > I am so sorry to hear that your family is not supporting you in

> > this. I have come to learn how important it is to have support

and

> > how lucky I am that all of my family and friends are there for

me.

> > Even my mother who I think belives I am crazy to do this is

driving

> > from Texas to Alabama to take care of me and my kids.

> >

> > Has you husband gone to the doctor with you? This seems to have

> > changed other peoples outlook on your decision. I know another

> girl

> > on the board said her mom (I think) changed her tune when she

went

> to

> > the surgeon with her and heard what was needed. Maybe also if

you

> > take care of the endometriosis first, your husband will have a

> > different outlook on the whole thing. I am sure he is just

scared

> > for you and believes the best way to protect you is to tell you

not

> > to do it.

> >

> > I am sure there are post-oppers here that can add to this, but I

am

> > thinking that during recovery you probably don't want any of

these

> > negative people around you.

> >

> > Good luck with whatever you decide and come here anytime you need

> > support.

> >

July 8, 2003

=I think all significant others seem to have a hard time being as

supportive as we need them to be leading up to the surgery.

mine found it tough when he told people at work I was in hospital

with a broken jaw...someone actually asked him if he did it -lol

It is such an obsessive thing.

nokidding.

Nothing like Chicken Fried Steak - with cheese on it!!!

I worked for Dell in Austin so I hear you on the tex mex.

Shiloh

July 8, 2003

=I think all significant others seem to have a hard time being as

supportive as we need them to be leading up to the surgery.

mine found it tough when he told people at work I was in hospital

with a broken jaw...someone actually asked him if he did it -lol

It is such an obsessive thing.

nokidding.

Nothing like Chicken Fried Steak - with cheese on it!!!

I worked for Dell in Austin so I hear you on the tex mex.

Shiloh

July 8, 2003

=I think all significant others seem to have a hard time being as

supportive as we need them to be leading up to the surgery.

mine found it tough when he told people at work I was in hospital

with a broken jaw...someone actually asked him if he did it -lol

It is such an obsessive thing.

nokidding.

Nothing like Chicken Fried Steak - with cheese on it!!!

I worked for Dell in Austin so I hear you on the tex mex.

Shiloh

July 8, 2003

I ask a lot, A LOT of questions... I tole you, my surgeon didn't band

me because first, he thought I could get away with it (and i did) and

second, " You like to talk a lot. A LOT! And I'd hate to think of you

straining against those bands. " Wish that my ortho had later been as

considerate! -- but not really. ;~) )

But speaking of fat, Maxillofillio sounds more like that swell Greek

pastry dough! Yummm!

Best,

C.

> Yes give people terminology they can't discuss

>

> But I think you meant maxillofacial surgery...

> =oh yeah and I can't spell either!

>

> I am more conservative in what I tell people now,

> most people don't ask their doc questions when its them on the

table.

> We here are defn over educated!

> Shiloh

July 8, 2003

I ask a lot, A LOT of questions... I tole you, my surgeon didn't band

me because first, he thought I could get away with it (and i did) and

second, " You like to talk a lot. A LOT! And I'd hate to think of you

straining against those bands. " Wish that my ortho had later been as

considerate! -- but not really. ;~) )

But speaking of fat, Maxillofillio sounds more like that swell Greek

pastry dough! Yummm!

Best,

C.

> Yes give people terminology they can't discuss

>

> But I think you meant maxillofacial surgery...

> =oh yeah and I can't spell either!

>

> I am more conservative in what I tell people now,

> most people don't ask their doc questions when its them on the

table.

> We here are defn over educated!

> Shiloh

July 8, 2003

I ask a lot, A LOT of questions... I tole you, my surgeon didn't band

me because first, he thought I could get away with it (and i did) and

second, " You like to talk a lot. A LOT! And I'd hate to think of you

straining against those bands. " Wish that my ortho had later been as

considerate! -- but not really. ;~) )

But speaking of fat, Maxillofillio sounds more like that swell Greek

pastry dough! Yummm!

Best,

C.

> Yes give people terminology they can't discuss

>

> But I think you meant maxillofacial surgery...

> =oh yeah and I can't spell either!

>

> I am more conservative in what I tell people now,

> most people don't ask their doc questions when its them on the

table.

> We here are defn over educated!

> Shiloh

July 8, 2003

I have heard about that thing of folks suspecting the battered wife

syndrome. I still think the best answer to that one is, coming from

the person who's had the surgery, either:

1. Don't inquire too closely. We had a really bizarre sexual

experience.

or, 2. For general queries that are none of anybody's business, and

especially to children,

I had an encounter with a rabid moose. But I'm fine now.

C.

> =I think all significant others seem to have a hard time being as

> supportive as we need them to be leading up to the surgery.

>

> mine found it tough when he told people at work I was in hospital

> with a broken jaw...someone actually asked him if he did it -lol

>

> It is such an obsessive thing.

> nokidding.

>

> Nothing like Chicken Fried Steak - with cheese on it!!!

> I worked for Dell in Austin so I hear you on the tex mex.

> Shiloh

July 8, 2003

I have heard about that thing of folks suspecting the battered wife

syndrome. I still think the best answer to that one is, coming from

the person who's had the surgery, either:

1. Don't inquire too closely. We had a really bizarre sexual

experience.

or, 2. For general queries that are none of anybody's business, and

especially to children,

I had an encounter with a rabid moose. But I'm fine now.

C.

> =I think all significant others seem to have a hard time being as

> supportive as we need them to be leading up to the surgery.

>

> mine found it tough when he told people at work I was in hospital

> with a broken jaw...someone actually asked him if he did it -lol

>

> It is such an obsessive thing.

> nokidding.

>

> Nothing like Chicken Fried Steak - with cheese on it!!!

> I worked for Dell in Austin so I hear you on the tex mex.

> Shiloh

July 8, 2003

Or you start a really long unrelated story but keep telling them the

point is comming up...see it all started in 1974, I was on the way

to school, hey did I ever tell you about the time in, oh yeah I was

trying to get to the point......

Or offer to show them the slide show!

Or tell them you are part of a new reality tv show (orth. survivor)

Or say in a very low voice, I'd rather not get into the specifics

and wisper something

Shiloh

Battered wife lol, he'd never hit my 50k face now

> > =I think all significant others seem to have a hard time being

as

> > supportive as we need them to be leading up to the surgery.

> >

> > mine found it tough when he told people at work I was in

hospital

> > with a broken jaw...someone actually asked him if he did it -lol

> >

> > It is such an obsessive thing.

> > nokidding.

> >

> > Nothing like Chicken Fried Steak - with cheese on it!!!

> > I worked for Dell in Austin so I hear you on the tex mex.

> > Shiloh

July 8, 2003

Or you start a really long unrelated story but keep telling them the

point is comming up...see it all started in 1974, I was on the way

to school, hey did I ever tell you about the time in, oh yeah I was

trying to get to the point......

Or offer to show them the slide show!

Or tell them you are part of a new reality tv show (orth. survivor)

Or say in a very low voice, I'd rather not get into the specifics

and wisper something

Shiloh

Battered wife lol, he'd never hit my 50k face now

> > =I think all significant others seem to have a hard time being

as

> > supportive as we need them to be leading up to the surgery.

> >

> > mine found it tough when he told people at work I was in

hospital

> > with a broken jaw...someone actually asked him if he did it -lol

> >

> > It is such an obsessive thing.

> > nokidding.

> >

> > Nothing like Chicken Fried Steak - with cheese on it!!!

> > I worked for Dell in Austin so I hear you on the tex mex.

> > Shiloh

July 8, 2003

Or you start a really long unrelated story but keep telling them the

point is comming up...see it all started in 1974, I was on the way

to school, hey did I ever tell you about the time in, oh yeah I was

trying to get to the point......

Or offer to show them the slide show!

Or tell them you are part of a new reality tv show (orth. survivor)

Or say in a very low voice, I'd rather not get into the specifics

and wisper something

Shiloh

Battered wife lol, he'd never hit my 50k face now

> > =I think all significant others seem to have a hard time being

as

> > supportive as we need them to be leading up to the surgery.

> >

> > mine found it tough when he told people at work I was in

hospital

> > with a broken jaw...someone actually asked him if he did it -lol

> >

> > It is such an obsessive thing.

> > nokidding.

> >

> > Nothing like Chicken Fried Steak - with cheese on it!!!

> > I worked for Dell in Austin so I hear you on the tex mex.

> > Shiloh

July 8, 2003

Hi Cammie. As always you know just the right things to say, if only

everyone could be as supportive as you (sigh).

Ok, I just had an evil chuckle, picturing my brother-in-law trying to

enjoy that steak on the 4th with no teeth. I'm sick in the head.

Hey, he's the one that said he wouldn't do this even if he couldn't

chew!

So, my surgery has finally been rescheduled after 5 long months, it

will be in the end of August. I am relieved and ready to have it

overwith.

Speaking of Mexican food, a little over a month to fit all of it in

that I can. Didn't waste any time either, had it for dinner

tonight.

Take care!

Alison

> Ohhh, geez. I just wish that folks (and that includes family) could

> find a way to be supportive of their loved ones in their time of

need.

>

> Why is it important to rank the surgeries in order of importance?

You

> apparently need repairs in two areas, and if you and your doctors

are

> in agreement about the sequence in which things should happen, that

> would be good enough for me. And aren't you fortunate that one does

> not contradict the other! THEN you and yours might have to make a

> choice. And especially are you fortunate if you have insurance or

> other provisions that will cover the financial aspects.

>

> Hey, guilt, I believe, is seldom a productive feeling. Try as best

> you can to ditch it, and get on with living and enjoying those you

> love. Including yourself.

>

> You are blessed with -- is it two? -- children you apparently very

> much want, and you may want more. (I do not have a clue about the

> threat from laparascopy, or not doing laparascopy, to fertility;

> sorry. I do know that it can make some surgical procedures soooo

much

> easier for the patient that it is truly a miracle of modern

July 8, 2003

Hi Cammie. As always you know just the right things to say, if only

everyone could be as supportive as you (sigh).

Ok, I just had an evil chuckle, picturing my brother-in-law trying to

enjoy that steak on the 4th with no teeth. I'm sick in the head.

Hey, he's the one that said he wouldn't do this even if he couldn't

chew!

So, my surgery has finally been rescheduled after 5 long months, it

will be in the end of August. I am relieved and ready to have it

overwith.

Speaking of Mexican food, a little over a month to fit all of it in

that I can. Didn't waste any time either, had it for dinner

tonight.

Take care!

Alison

> Ohhh, geez. I just wish that folks (and that includes family) could

> find a way to be supportive of their loved ones in their time of

need.

>

> Why is it important to rank the surgeries in order of importance?

You

> apparently need repairs in two areas, and if you and your doctors

are

> in agreement about the sequence in which things should happen, that

> would be good enough for me. And aren't you fortunate that one does

> not contradict the other! THEN you and yours might have to make a

> choice. And especially are you fortunate if you have insurance or

> other provisions that will cover the financial aspects.

>

> Hey, guilt, I believe, is seldom a productive feeling. Try as best

> you can to ditch it, and get on with living and enjoying those you

> love. Including yourself.

>

> You are blessed with -- is it two? -- children you apparently very

> much want, and you may want more. (I do not have a clue about the

> threat from laparascopy, or not doing laparascopy, to fertility;

> sorry. I do know that it can make some surgical procedures soooo

much

> easier for the patient that it is truly a miracle of modern

July 8, 2003

It is a very demanding time on spouses too. I'm sure he never feels

like he says the right thing...even when he's trying.

I'm a native Pennsylvanian, have been in Texas for 7 years though.

The food is absolutely incredible here. I guess this isn't the best

place to be discussing food, is it?

> > > Alison,

> > >

> > > I am so sorry to hear that your family is not supporting you in

> > > this. I have come to learn how important it is to have support

> and

> > > how lucky I am that all of my family and friends are there for

> me.

> > > Even my mother who I think belives I am crazy to do this is

> driving

> > > from Texas to Alabama to take care of me and my kids.

> > >

> > > Has you husband gone to the doctor with you? This seems to

have

> > > changed other peoples outlook on your decision. I know another

> > girl

> > > on the board said her mom (I think) changed her tune when she

> went

> > to

> > > the surgeon with her and heard what was needed. Maybe also if

> you

> > > take care of the endometriosis first, your husband will have a

> > > different outlook on the whole thing. I am sure he is just

> scared

> > > for you and believes the best way to protect you is to tell you

> not

> > > to do it.

> > >

> > > I am sure there are post-oppers here that can add to this, but

I

> am

> > > thinking that during recovery you probably don't want any of

> these

> > > negative people around you.

> > >

> > > Good luck with whatever you decide and come here anytime you

need

> > > support.

> > >

July 8, 2003

It is a very demanding time on spouses too. I'm sure he never feels

like he says the right thing...even when he's trying.

I'm a native Pennsylvanian, have been in Texas for 7 years though.

The food is absolutely incredible here. I guess this isn't the best

place to be discussing food, is it?

> > > Alison,

> > >

> > > I am so sorry to hear that your family is not supporting you in

> > > this. I have come to learn how important it is to have support

> and

> > > how lucky I am that all of my family and friends are there for

> me.

> > > Even my mother who I think belives I am crazy to do this is

> driving

> > > from Texas to Alabama to take care of me and my kids.

> > >

> > > Has you husband gone to the doctor with you? This seems to

have

> > > changed other peoples outlook on your decision. I know another

> > girl

> > > on the board said her mom (I think) changed her tune when she

> went

> > to

> > > the surgeon with her and heard what was needed. Maybe also if

> you

> > > take care of the endometriosis first, your husband will have a

> > > different outlook on the whole thing. I am sure he is just

> scared

> > > for you and believes the best way to protect you is to tell you

> not

> > > to do it.

> > >

> > > I am sure there are post-oppers here that can add to this, but

I

> am

> > > thinking that during recovery you probably don't want any of

> these

> > > negative people around you.

> > >

> > > Good luck with whatever you decide and come here anytime you

need

> > > support.

> > >

July 8, 2003

It is a very demanding time on spouses too. I'm sure he never feels

like he says the right thing...even when he's trying.

I'm a native Pennsylvanian, have been in Texas for 7 years though.

The food is absolutely incredible here. I guess this isn't the best

place to be discussing food, is it?

> > > Alison,

> > >

> > > I am so sorry to hear that your family is not supporting you in

> > > this. I have come to learn how important it is to have support

> and

> > > how lucky I am that all of my family and friends are there for

> me.

> > > Even my mother who I think belives I am crazy to do this is

> driving

> > > from Texas to Alabama to take care of me and my kids.

> > >

> > > Has you husband gone to the doctor with you? This seems to

have

> > > changed other peoples outlook on your decision. I know another

> > girl

> > > on the board said her mom (I think) changed her tune when she

> went

> > to

> > > the surgeon with her and heard what was needed. Maybe also if

> you

> > > take care of the endometriosis first, your husband will have a

> > > different outlook on the whole thing. I am sure he is just

> scared

> > > for you and believes the best way to protect you is to tell you

> not

> > > to do it.

> > >

> > > I am sure there are post-oppers here that can add to this, but

I

> am

> > > thinking that during recovery you probably don't want any of

> these

> > > negative people around you.

> > >

> > > Good luck with whatever you decide and come here anytime you

need

> > > support.

> > >

July 8, 2003

Keep that brother in law image going strong. He just hasn't a clue...

Fun to think of him trying to gum a steak.

But I do believe that for the occasion I'd make it maybe a flank

steak, instead of a filet. Or bottom round. Or maybe even shoulder.

And let him gum it, greasy and cold. While you eat a delicately

cooked and seasoned chicken fried steak, with the utmost delicacy.

(But that won't, alas, be the week post op. Wish I could offer

better...) You'll do fine. And hey -- Mexican has traditionally been

one of the most successful for post-op blending. Mix in some beans,

and rice, and salsa, and, if you want it, cheese or cheese soup, and

whiz away. (Whiz as in with a blender, until you get an edible,

slurpable texture.)

C.

July 8, 2003