Re: Issues with my daughter's Hanger helmet

March 31, 2006

Kirsten,

Let me know what they say if you get time. I appreciate it.

CAROLG

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Currently Laurel is out of her Hanger helmet, she has

> been

> > > VERY

> > > > > > sick

> > > > > > > with an ear infection and was in and out of her helmet

> over

> > > the

> > > > > > > weekend. When her fever would go up, we'd take it off

> > until

> > > it

> > > > > > came

> > > > > > > back down.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > I noticed that she was getting a pretty bad indentation

> on

> > > her

> > > > > left

> > > > > > > cheek from the helmet, so I changed her next

appointment

> > from

> > > > > April

> > > > > > > 3rd to tomorrow. It seemed to go away, so I put the

> helmet

> > > back

> > > > > on

> > > > > > > her. So last night I took it off for her bath and she

> had

> > a

> > > BIG

> > > > > > red

> > > > > > > mark on her cheek that didn't go away after an

hour...in

> > > fact,

> > > > > most

> > > > > > > of the mark is still there this morning! I'm not

> putting

> > the

> > > > > > helmet

> > > > > > > back on now until it's adjusted, plus I printed some

> > > pictures of

> > > > > > > what happened last night to show the ortho. It's

> > definitely

> > > a

> > > > > red

> > > > > > > mark and not a rash.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Anyway, I was doing a search of the boards to see if

> others

> > > had

> > > > > > this

> > > > > > > problem and I ran across some info that said that

Hanger

> > > Helmets

> > > > > > > were active ones and not passive? I was under the

> > impression

> > > > > that

> > > > > > > it was a passive one and that her head was supposed to

> grow

> > > into

> > > > > > > it? Did I just not ask the appropriate questions of

the

> > > ortho?

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > With all the issues my girl has had since getting the

> > helmet,

> > > > > I'm

> > > > > > > seriously doubting my decision to treat now. In my

head

> I

> > > know

> > > > > it

> > > > > > > will be for the best in the long run, but in my heart I

> hate

> > > > > > putting

> > > > > > > her through all of this.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Thanks for any input,

> > > > > > > Kirsten

> > > > > > > Mom to Laurel - Hanger Helmet 3.15.06

> > > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > >

> > > >

> > >

> >

>

March 31, 2006

OK, I just got off the phone with the nurse. She explained to me

that it is an active helmet, but that some people consider helmets

in general to be passive and that by active they mean surgery, or

some other form of invasive type procedure.

Also, I asked her about the foam inserts and she said that was

fine. She did ask who my ortho was and she said that if I'd told

her anyone but Greg that she might be worried, but that he is very

good. She said did say that I could come in to see Dr. Gordon if I

wanted to though. I told her that I think I'm going to see how this

go-round with the fitting goes and take it from there. I think I

just need to give it more time.

Thanks again for all the support, it really has made this whole

process easier.

Thanks,

Kirsten

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Currently Laurel is out of her Hanger helmet, she

has

> > been

> > > > VERY

> > > > > > > sick

> > > > > > > > with an ear infection and was in and out of her

helmet

> > over

> > > > the

> > > > > > > > weekend. When her fever would go up, we'd take it

off

> > > until

> > > > it

> > > > > > > came

> > > > > > > > back down.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > I noticed that she was getting a pretty bad

indentation

> > on

> > > > her

> > > > > > left

> > > > > > > > cheek from the helmet, so I changed her next

> appointment

> > > from

> > > > > > April

> > > > > > > > 3rd to tomorrow. It seemed to go away, so I put the

> > helmet

> > > > back

> > > > > > on

> > > > > > > > her. So last night I took it off for her bath and

she

> > had

> > > a

> > > > BIG

> > > > > > > red

> > > > > > > > mark on her cheek that didn't go away after an

> hour...in

> > > > fact,

> > > > > > most

> > > > > > > > of the mark is still there this morning! I'm not

> > putting

> > > the

> > > > > > > helmet

> > > > > > > > back on now until it's adjusted, plus I printed some

> > > > pictures of

> > > > > > > > what happened last night to show the ortho. It's

> > > definitely

> > > > a

> > > > > > red

> > > > > > > > mark and not a rash.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Anyway, I was doing a search of the boards to see if

> > others

> > > > had

> > > > > > > this

> > > > > > > > problem and I ran across some info that said that

> Hanger

> > > > Helmets

> > > > > > > > were active ones and not passive? I was under the

> > > impression

> > > > > > that

> > > > > > > > it was a passive one and that her head was supposed

to

> > grow

> > > > into

> > > > > > > > it? Did I just not ask the appropriate questions of

> the

> > > > ortho?

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > With all the issues my girl has had since getting

the

> > > helmet,

> > > > > > I'm

> > > > > > > > seriously doubting my decision to treat now. In my

> head

> > I

> > > > know

> > > > > > it

> > > > > > > > will be for the best in the long run, but in my

heart I

> > hate

> > > > > > > putting

> > > > > > > > her through all of this.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Thanks for any input,

> > > > > > > > Kirsten

> > > > > > > > Mom to Laurel - Hanger Helmet 3.15.06

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > >

> > > >

> > >

> >

>

March 31, 2006

OK, I just got off the phone with the nurse. She explained to me

that it is an active helmet, but that some people consider helmets

in general to be passive and that by active they mean surgery, or

some other form of invasive type procedure.

Also, I asked her about the foam inserts and she said that was

fine. She did ask who my ortho was and she said that if I'd told

her anyone but Greg that she might be worried, but that he is very

good. She said did say that I could come in to see Dr. Gordon if I

wanted to though. I told her that I think I'm going to see how this

go-round with the fitting goes and take it from there. I think I

just need to give it more time.

Thanks again for all the support, it really has made this whole

process easier.

Thanks,

Kirsten

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Currently Laurel is out of her Hanger helmet, she

has

> > been

> > > > VERY

> > > > > > > sick

> > > > > > > > with an ear infection and was in and out of her

helmet

> > over

> > > > the

> > > > > > > > weekend. When her fever would go up, we'd take it

off

> > > until

> > > > it

> > > > > > > came

> > > > > > > > back down.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > I noticed that she was getting a pretty bad

indentation

> > on

> > > > her

> > > > > > left

> > > > > > > > cheek from the helmet, so I changed her next

> appointment

> > > from

> > > > > > April

> > > > > > > > 3rd to tomorrow. It seemed to go away, so I put the

> > helmet

> > > > back

> > > > > > on

> > > > > > > > her. So last night I took it off for her bath and

she

> > had

> > > a

> > > > BIG

> > > > > > > red

> > > > > > > > mark on her cheek that didn't go away after an

> hour...in

> > > > fact,

> > > > > > most

> > > > > > > > of the mark is still there this morning! I'm not

> > putting

> > > the

> > > > > > > helmet

> > > > > > > > back on now until it's adjusted, plus I printed some

> > > > pictures of

> > > > > > > > what happened last night to show the ortho. It's

> > > definitely

> > > > a

> > > > > > red

> > > > > > > > mark and not a rash.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Anyway, I was doing a search of the boards to see if

> > others

> > > > had

> > > > > > > this

> > > > > > > > problem and I ran across some info that said that

> Hanger

> > > > Helmets

> > > > > > > > were active ones and not passive? I was under the

> > > impression

> > > > > > that

> > > > > > > > it was a passive one and that her head was supposed

to

> > grow

> > > > into

> > > > > > > > it? Did I just not ask the appropriate questions of

> the

> > > > ortho?

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > With all the issues my girl has had since getting

the

> > > helmet,

> > > > > > I'm

> > > > > > > > seriously doubting my decision to treat now. In my

> head

> > I

> > > > know

> > > > > > it

> > > > > > > > will be for the best in the long run, but in my

heart I

> > hate

> > > > > > > putting

> > > > > > > > her through all of this.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Thanks for any input,

> > > > > > > > Kirsten

> > > > > > > > Mom to Laurel - Hanger Helmet 3.15.06

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > >

> > > >

> > >

> >

>

March 31, 2006

Hello. I'm glad that the band seems to be fitting her better now.

The Orthotist saying that she will grow into it may just be referring

to the fact that in the beginning (and often after some foam is

remove during adjustments) they do have to grow into the band a bit.

This allows for the flatter areas to pop out as their head grows. It

sounds as if there are holding spots on her band though if

her " buldging " areas are coming in contact with it.

Sorry about the insensitive comment you got. I think it's pretty

rude for someone to say something about it when they really aren't

that educated about it.

Keep us updated.

Jen

(almost 20 mo), tort resolved, Hanger Band Grad

(4 years)

> > >

> > > Currently Laurel is out of her Hanger helmet, she has been VERY

> > sick

> > > with an ear infection and was in and out of her helmet over the

> > > weekend. When her fever would go up, we'd take it off until it

> > came

> > > back down.

> > >

> > > I noticed that she was getting a pretty bad indentation on her

> left

> > > cheek from the helmet, so I changed her next appointment from

> April

> > > 3rd to tomorrow. It seemed to go away, so I put the helmet

back

> on

> > > her. So last night I took it off for her bath and she had a

BIG

> > red

> > > mark on her cheek that didn't go away after an hour...in fact,

> most

> > > of the mark is still there this morning! I'm not putting the

> > helmet

> > > back on now until it's adjusted, plus I printed some pictures

of

> > > what happened last night to show the ortho. It's definitely a

> red

> > > mark and not a rash.

> > >

> > > Anyway, I was doing a search of the boards to see if others had

> > this

> > > problem and I ran across some info that said that Hanger

Helmets

> > > were active ones and not passive? I was under the impression

> that

> > > it was a passive one and that her head was supposed to grow

into

> > > it? Did I just not ask the appropriate questions of the ortho?

> > >

> > > With all the issues my girl has had since getting the helmet,

> I'm

> > > seriously doubting my decision to treat now. In my head I know

> it

> > > will be for the best in the long run, but in my heart I hate

> > putting

> > > her through all of this.

> > >

> > > Thanks for any input,

> > > Kirsten

> > > Mom to Laurel - Hanger Helmet 3.15.06

> > >

> >

>

March 31, 2006

Hello. I'm glad that the band seems to be fitting her better now.

The Orthotist saying that she will grow into it may just be referring

to the fact that in the beginning (and often after some foam is

remove during adjustments) they do have to grow into the band a bit.

This allows for the flatter areas to pop out as their head grows. It

sounds as if there are holding spots on her band though if

her " buldging " areas are coming in contact with it.

Sorry about the insensitive comment you got. I think it's pretty

rude for someone to say something about it when they really aren't

that educated about it.

Keep us updated.

Jen

(almost 20 mo), tort resolved, Hanger Band Grad

(4 years)

> > >

> > > Currently Laurel is out of her Hanger helmet, she has been VERY

> > sick

> > > with an ear infection and was in and out of her helmet over the

> > > weekend. When her fever would go up, we'd take it off until it

> > came

> > > back down.

> > >

> > > I noticed that she was getting a pretty bad indentation on her

> left

> > > cheek from the helmet, so I changed her next appointment from

> April

> > > 3rd to tomorrow. It seemed to go away, so I put the helmet

back

> on

> > > her. So last night I took it off for her bath and she had a

BIG

> > red

> > > mark on her cheek that didn't go away after an hour...in fact,

> most

> > > of the mark is still there this morning! I'm not putting the

> > helmet

> > > back on now until it's adjusted, plus I printed some pictures

of

> > > what happened last night to show the ortho. It's definitely a

> red

> > > mark and not a rash.

> > >

> > > Anyway, I was doing a search of the boards to see if others had

> > this

> > > problem and I ran across some info that said that Hanger

Helmets

> > > were active ones and not passive? I was under the impression

> that

> > > it was a passive one and that her head was supposed to grow

into

> > > it? Did I just not ask the appropriate questions of the ortho?

> > >

> > > With all the issues my girl has had since getting the helmet,

> I'm

> > > seriously doubting my decision to treat now. In my head I know

> it

> > > will be for the best in the long run, but in my heart I hate

> > putting

> > > her through all of this.

> > >

> > > Thanks for any input,

> > > Kirsten

> > > Mom to Laurel - Hanger Helmet 3.15.06

> > >

> >

>

March 31, 2006

Kirsten,

I am glad you feel more comfortable after the phone call. Hopefully

everything will proceed smoothly. Thanks for the update.

CAROLG

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Currently Laurel is out of her Hanger helmet, she

> has

> > > been

> > > > > VERY

> > > > > > > > sick

> > > > > > > > > with an ear infection and was in and out of her

> helmet

> > > over

> > > > > the

> > > > > > > > > weekend. When her fever would go up, we'd take it

> off

> > > > until

> > > > > it

> > > > > > > > came

> > > > > > > > > back down.

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > I noticed that she was getting a pretty bad

> indentation

> > > on

> > > > > her

> > > > > > > left

> > > > > > > > > cheek from the helmet, so I changed her next

> > appointment

> > > > from

> > > > > > > April

> > > > > > > > > 3rd to tomorrow. It seemed to go away, so I put

the

> > > helmet

> > > > > back

> > > > > > > on

> > > > > > > > > her. So last night I took it off for her bath and

> she

> > > had

> > > > a

> > > > > BIG

> > > > > > > > red

> > > > > > > > > mark on her cheek that didn't go away after an

> > hour...in

> > > > > fact,

> > > > > > > most

> > > > > > > > > of the mark is still there this morning! I'm not

> > > putting

> > > > the

> > > > > > > > helmet

> > > > > > > > > back on now until it's adjusted, plus I printed

some

> > > > > pictures of

> > > > > > > > > what happened last night to show the ortho. It's

> > > > definitely

> > > > > a

> > > > > > > red

> > > > > > > > > mark and not a rash.

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Anyway, I was doing a search of the boards to see

if

> > > others

> > > > > had

> > > > > > > > this

> > > > > > > > > problem and I ran across some info that said that

> > Hanger

> > > > > Helmets

> > > > > > > > > were active ones and not passive? I was under the

> > > > impression

> > > > > > > that

> > > > > > > > > it was a passive one and that her head was supposed

> to

> > > grow

> > > > > into

> > > > > > > > > it? Did I just not ask the appropriate questions

of

> > the

> > > > > ortho?

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > With all the issues my girl has had since getting

> the

> > > > helmet,

> > > > > > > I'm

> > > > > > > > > seriously doubting my decision to treat now. In my

> > head

> > > I

> > > > > know

> > > > > > > it

> > > > > > > > > will be for the best in the long run, but in my

> heart I

> > > hate

> > > > > > > > putting

> > > > > > > > > her through all of this.

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Thanks for any input,

> > > > > > > > > Kirsten

> > > > > > > > > Mom to Laurel - Hanger Helmet 3.15.06

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > >

> > > >

> > >

> >

>

March 31, 2006

Kirsten,

I am glad you feel more comfortable after the phone call. Hopefully

everything will proceed smoothly. Thanks for the update.

CAROLG

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Currently Laurel is out of her Hanger helmet, she

> has

> > > been

> > > > > VERY

> > > > > > > > sick

> > > > > > > > > with an ear infection and was in and out of her

> helmet

> > > over

> > > > > the

> > > > > > > > > weekend. When her fever would go up, we'd take it

> off

> > > > until

> > > > > it

> > > > > > > > came

> > > > > > > > > back down.

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > I noticed that she was getting a pretty bad

> indentation

> > > on

> > > > > her

> > > > > > > left

> > > > > > > > > cheek from the helmet, so I changed her next

> > appointment

> > > > from

> > > > > > > April

> > > > > > > > > 3rd to tomorrow. It seemed to go away, so I put

the

> > > helmet

> > > > > back

> > > > > > > on

> > > > > > > > > her. So last night I took it off for her bath and

> she

> > > had

> > > > a

> > > > > BIG

> > > > > > > > red

> > > > > > > > > mark on her cheek that didn't go away after an

> > hour...in

> > > > > fact,

> > > > > > > most

> > > > > > > > > of the mark is still there this morning! I'm not

> > > putting

> > > > the

> > > > > > > > helmet

> > > > > > > > > back on now until it's adjusted, plus I printed

some

> > > > > pictures of

> > > > > > > > > what happened last night to show the ortho. It's

> > > > definitely

> > > > > a

> > > > > > > red

> > > > > > > > > mark and not a rash.

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Anyway, I was doing a search of the boards to see

if

> > > others

> > > > > had

> > > > > > > > this

> > > > > > > > > problem and I ran across some info that said that

> > Hanger

> > > > > Helmets

> > > > > > > > > were active ones and not passive? I was under the

> > > > impression

> > > > > > > that

> > > > > > > > > it was a passive one and that her head was supposed

> to

> > > grow

> > > > > into

> > > > > > > > > it? Did I just not ask the appropriate questions

of

> > the

> > > > > ortho?

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > With all the issues my girl has had since getting

> the

> > > > helmet,

> > > > > > > I'm

> > > > > > > > > seriously doubting my decision to treat now. In my

> > head

> > > I

> > > > > know

> > > > > > > it

> > > > > > > > > will be for the best in the long run, but in my

> heart I

> > > hate

> > > > > > > > putting

> > > > > > > > > her through all of this.

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Thanks for any input,

> > > > > > > > > Kirsten

> > > > > > > > > Mom to Laurel - Hanger Helmet 3.15.06

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > >

> > > >

> > >

> >

>

March 31, 2006

Kirsten,

It's never good to add anything to the inside of the band. The bands

are made from casts or scans of the baby's head. Add something to the

inside of the band and your basically changing the shape of the band.

Keep your eye on this.

> > > > >

> > > > > Currently Laurel is out of her Hanger helmet, she has been

> VERY

> > > > sick

> > > > > with an ear infection and was in and out of her helmet over

> the

> > > > > weekend. When her fever would go up, we'd take it off until

> it

> > > > came

> > > > > back down.

> > > > >

> > > > > I noticed that she was getting a pretty bad indentation on

> her

> > > left

> > > > > cheek from the helmet, so I changed her next appointment from

> > > April

> > > > > 3rd to tomorrow. It seemed to go away, so I put the helmet

> back

> > > on

> > > > > her. So last night I took it off for her bath and she had a

> BIG

> > > > red

> > > > > mark on her cheek that didn't go away after an hour...in

> fact,

> > > most

> > > > > of the mark is still there this morning! I'm not putting the

> > > > helmet

> > > > > back on now until it's adjusted, plus I printed some

> pictures of

> > > > > what happened last night to show the ortho. It's definitely

> a

> > > red

> > > > > mark and not a rash.

> > > > >

> > > > > Anyway, I was doing a search of the boards to see if others

> had

> > > > this

> > > > > problem and I ran across some info that said that Hanger

> Helmets

> > > > > were active ones and not passive? I was under the impression

> > > that

> > > > > it was a passive one and that her head was supposed to grow

> into

> > > > > it? Did I just not ask the appropriate questions of the

> ortho?

> > > > >

> > > > > With all the issues my girl has had since getting the helmet,

> > > I'm

> > > > > seriously doubting my decision to treat now. In my head I

> know

> > > it

> > > > > will be for the best in the long run, but in my heart I hate

> > > > putting

> > > > > her through all of this.

> > > > >

> > > > > Thanks for any input,

> > > > > Kirsten

> > > > > Mom to Laurel - Hanger Helmet 3.15.06

> > > > >

> > > >

> > >

> >

>

March 31, 2006

Kirsten,

It's never good to add anything to the inside of the band. The bands

are made from casts or scans of the baby's head. Add something to the

inside of the band and your basically changing the shape of the band.

Keep your eye on this.

> > > > >

> > > > > Currently Laurel is out of her Hanger helmet, she has been

> VERY

> > > > sick

> > > > > with an ear infection and was in and out of her helmet over

> the

> > > > > weekend. When her fever would go up, we'd take it off until

> it

> > > > came

> > > > > back down.

> > > > >

> > > > > I noticed that she was getting a pretty bad indentation on

> her

> > > left

> > > > > cheek from the helmet, so I changed her next appointment from

> > > April

> > > > > 3rd to tomorrow. It seemed to go away, so I put the helmet

> back

> > > on

> > > > > her. So last night I took it off for her bath and she had a

> BIG

> > > > red

> > > > > mark on her cheek that didn't go away after an hour...in

> fact,

> > > most

> > > > > of the mark is still there this morning! I'm not putting the

> > > > helmet

> > > > > back on now until it's adjusted, plus I printed some

> pictures of

> > > > > what happened last night to show the ortho. It's definitely

> a

> > > red

> > > > > mark and not a rash.

> > > > >

> > > > > Anyway, I was doing a search of the boards to see if others

> had

> > > > this

> > > > > problem and I ran across some info that said that Hanger

> Helmets

> > > > > were active ones and not passive? I was under the impression

> > > that

> > > > > it was a passive one and that her head was supposed to grow

> into

> > > > > it? Did I just not ask the appropriate questions of the

> ortho?

> > > > >

> > > > > With all the issues my girl has had since getting the helmet,

> > > I'm

> > > > > seriously doubting my decision to treat now. In my head I

> know

> > > it

> > > > > will be for the best in the long run, but in my heart I hate

> > > > putting

> > > > > her through all of this.

> > > > >

> > > > > Thanks for any input,

> > > > > Kirsten

> > > > > Mom to Laurel - Hanger Helmet 3.15.06

> > > > >

> > > >

> > >

> >

>

March 31, 2006

Carol,

You're correct. Adding foam is a no, no and usually indicates

something is wrong w/the fit.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Currently Laurel is out of her Hanger helmet, she has been

> > VERY

> > > > > sick

> > > > > > with an ear infection and was in and out of her helmet over

> > the

> > > > > > weekend. When her fever would go up, we'd take it off

> until

> > it

> > > > > came

> > > > > > back down.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > I noticed that she was getting a pretty bad indentation on

> > her

> > > > left

> > > > > > cheek from the helmet, so I changed her next appointment

> from

> > > > April

> > > > > > 3rd to tomorrow. It seemed to go away, so I put the helmet

> > back

> > > > on

> > > > > > her. So last night I took it off for her bath and she had

> a

> > BIG

> > > > > red

> > > > > > mark on her cheek that didn't go away after an hour...in

> > fact,

> > > > most

> > > > > > of the mark is still there this morning! I'm not putting

> the

> > > > > helmet

> > > > > > back on now until it's adjusted, plus I printed some

> > pictures of

> > > > > > what happened last night to show the ortho. It's

> definitely

> > a

> > > > red

> > > > > > mark and not a rash.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Anyway, I was doing a search of the boards to see if others

> > had

> > > > > this

> > > > > > problem and I ran across some info that said that Hanger

> > Helmets

> > > > > > were active ones and not passive? I was under the

> impression

> > > > that

> > > > > > it was a passive one and that her head was supposed to grow

> > into

> > > > > > it? Did I just not ask the appropriate questions of the

> > ortho?

> > > > > >

> > > > > > With all the issues my girl has had since getting the

> helmet,

> > > > I'm

> > > > > > seriously doubting my decision to treat now. In my head I

> > know

> > > > it

> > > > > > will be for the best in the long run, but in my heart I hate

> > > > > putting

> > > > > > her through all of this.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Thanks for any input,

> > > > > > Kirsten

> > > > > > Mom to Laurel - Hanger Helmet 3.15.06

> > > > > >

> > > > >

> > > >

> > >

> >

>

March 31, 2006

Carol,

You're correct. Adding foam is a no, no and usually indicates

something is wrong w/the fit.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Currently Laurel is out of her Hanger helmet, she has been

> > VERY

> > > > > sick

> > > > > > with an ear infection and was in and out of her helmet over

> > the

> > > > > > weekend. When her fever would go up, we'd take it off

> until

> > it

> > > > > came

> > > > > > back down.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > I noticed that she was getting a pretty bad indentation on

> > her

> > > > left

> > > > > > cheek from the helmet, so I changed her next appointment

> from

> > > > April

> > > > > > 3rd to tomorrow. It seemed to go away, so I put the helmet

> > back

> > > > on

> > > > > > her. So last night I took it off for her bath and she had

> a

> > BIG

> > > > > red

> > > > > > mark on her cheek that didn't go away after an hour...in

> > fact,

> > > > most

> > > > > > of the mark is still there this morning! I'm not putting

> the

> > > > > helmet

> > > > > > back on now until it's adjusted, plus I printed some

> > pictures of

> > > > > > what happened last night to show the ortho. It's

> definitely

> > a

> > > > red

> > > > > > mark and not a rash.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Anyway, I was doing a search of the boards to see if others

> > had

> > > > > this

> > > > > > problem and I ran across some info that said that Hanger

> > Helmets

> > > > > > were active ones and not passive? I was under the

> impression

> > > > that

> > > > > > it was a passive one and that her head was supposed to grow

> > into

> > > > > > it? Did I just not ask the appropriate questions of the

> > ortho?

> > > > > >

> > > > > > With all the issues my girl has had since getting the

> helmet,

> > > > I'm

> > > > > > seriously doubting my decision to treat now. In my head I

> > know

> > > > it

> > > > > > will be for the best in the long run, but in my heart I hate

> > > > > putting

> > > > > > her through all of this.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Thanks for any input,

> > > > > > Kirsten

> > > > > > Mom to Laurel - Hanger Helmet 3.15.06

> > > > > >

> > > > >

> > > >

> > >

> >

>

March 31, 2006

Have you heard back from them yet?

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Currently Laurel is out of her Hanger helmet, she has

> been

> > > VERY

> > > > > > sick

> > > > > > > with an ear infection and was in and out of her helmet

> over

> > > the

> > > > > > > weekend. When her fever would go up, we'd take it off

> > until

> > > it

> > > > > > came

> > > > > > > back down.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > I noticed that she was getting a pretty bad indentation

> on

> > > her

> > > > > left

> > > > > > > cheek from the helmet, so I changed her next appointment

> > from

> > > > > April

> > > > > > > 3rd to tomorrow. It seemed to go away, so I put the

> helmet

> > > back

> > > > > on

> > > > > > > her. So last night I took it off for her bath and she

> had

> > a

> > > BIG

> > > > > > red

> > > > > > > mark on her cheek that didn't go away after an hour...in

> > > fact,

> > > > > most

> > > > > > > of the mark is still there this morning! I'm not

> putting

> > the

> > > > > > helmet

> > > > > > > back on now until it's adjusted, plus I printed some

> > > pictures of

> > > > > > > what happened last night to show the ortho. It's

> > definitely

> > > a

> > > > > red

> > > > > > > mark and not a rash.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Anyway, I was doing a search of the boards to see if

> others

> > > had

> > > > > > this

> > > > > > > problem and I ran across some info that said that Hanger

> > > Helmets

> > > > > > > were active ones and not passive? I was under the

> > impression

> > > > > that

> > > > > > > it was a passive one and that her head was supposed to

> grow

> > > into

> > > > > > > it? Did I just not ask the appropriate questions of the

> > > ortho?

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > With all the issues my girl has had since getting the

> > helmet,

> > > > > I'm

> > > > > > > seriously doubting my decision to treat now. In my head

> I

> > > know

> > > > > it

> > > > > > > will be for the best in the long run, but in my heart I

> hate

> > > > > > putting

> > > > > > > her through all of this.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Thanks for any input,

> > > > > > > Kirsten

> > > > > > > Mom to Laurel - Hanger Helmet 3.15.06

> > > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > >

> > > >

> > >

> >

>

March 31, 2006

Have you heard back from them yet?

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Currently Laurel is out of her Hanger helmet, she has

> been

> > > VERY

> > > > > > sick

> > > > > > > with an ear infection and was in and out of her helmet

> over

> > > the

> > > > > > > weekend. When her fever would go up, we'd take it off

> > until

> > > it

> > > > > > came

> > > > > > > back down.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > I noticed that she was getting a pretty bad indentation

> on

> > > her

> > > > > left

> > > > > > > cheek from the helmet, so I changed her next appointment

> > from

> > > > > April

> > > > > > > 3rd to tomorrow. It seemed to go away, so I put the

> helmet

> > > back

> > > > > on

> > > > > > > her. So last night I took it off for her bath and she

> had

> > a

> > > BIG

> > > > > > red

> > > > > > > mark on her cheek that didn't go away after an hour...in

> > > fact,

> > > > > most

> > > > > > > of the mark is still there this morning! I'm not

> putting

> > the

> > > > > > helmet

> > > > > > > back on now until it's adjusted, plus I printed some

> > > pictures of

> > > > > > > what happened last night to show the ortho. It's

> > definitely

> > > a

> > > > > red

> > > > > > > mark and not a rash.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Anyway, I was doing a search of the boards to see if

> others

> > > had

> > > > > > this

> > > > > > > problem and I ran across some info that said that Hanger

> > > Helmets

> > > > > > > were active ones and not passive? I was under the

> > impression

> > > > > that

> > > > > > > it was a passive one and that her head was supposed to

> grow

> > > into

> > > > > > > it? Did I just not ask the appropriate questions of the

> > > ortho?

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > With all the issues my girl has had since getting the

> > helmet,

> > > > > I'm

> > > > > > > seriously doubting my decision to treat now. In my head

> I

> > > know

> > > > > it

> > > > > > > will be for the best in the long run, but in my heart I

> hate

> > > > > > putting

> > > > > > > her through all of this.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Thanks for any input,

> > > > > > > Kirsten

> > > > > > > Mom to Laurel - Hanger Helmet 3.15.06

> > > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > >

> > > >

> > >

> >

>

March 31, 2006

Kirsten,

There's a huge difference between passive, active and surgery. Passive

helmets rely totally on growth. The helmet sits on the baby's head and

eventually that baby's head grows into the shape of the helmet, round.

An active band is just that active. It redirects the growth of the

head through gentle pressure not felt by the baby.

How would surgery be active? That totally confuses me.

I don't understand how she can tell you it's ok to add foam to the

helmet. By adding foam to the helmet he just changed the shape of the

helmet. Why bother casting/scanning if you're just going to change the

shape of the helmet by adding foam to it? Please be on your toes.

We've had more than one baby here have foam added to their band b/c

the band was ill fitting. Their bands ended up making their plagio worse.

-- In Plagiocephaly , " shields31 " <shields31@...> wrote:

>

> OK, I just got off the phone with the nurse. She explained to me

> that it is an active helmet, but that some people consider helmets

> in general to be passive and that by active they mean surgery, or

> some other form of invasive type procedure.

>

> Also, I asked her about the foam inserts and she said that was

> fine. She did ask who my ortho was and she said that if I'd told

> her anyone but Greg that she might be worried, but that he is very

> good. She said did say that I could come in to see Dr. Gordon if I

> wanted to though. I told her that I think I'm going to see how this

> go-round with the fitting goes and take it from there. I think I

> just need to give it more time.

>

> Thanks again for all the support, it really has made this whole

> process easier.

>

> Thanks,

> Kirsten

>

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Currently Laurel is out of her Hanger helmet, she

> has

> > > been

> > > > > VERY

> > > > > > > > sick

> > > > > > > > > with an ear infection and was in and out of her

> helmet

> > > over

> > > > > the

> > > > > > > > > weekend. When her fever would go up, we'd take it

> off

> > > > until

> > > > > it

> > > > > > > > came

> > > > > > > > > back down.

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > I noticed that she was getting a pretty bad

> indentation

> > > on

> > > > > her

> > > > > > > left

> > > > > > > > > cheek from the helmet, so I changed her next

> > appointment

> > > > from

> > > > > > > April

> > > > > > > > > 3rd to tomorrow. It seemed to go away, so I put the

> > > helmet

> > > > > back

> > > > > > > on

> > > > > > > > > her. So last night I took it off for her bath and

> she

> > > had

> > > > a

> > > > > BIG

> > > > > > > > red

> > > > > > > > > mark on her cheek that didn't go away after an

> > hour...in

> > > > > fact,

> > > > > > > most

> > > > > > > > > of the mark is still there this morning! I'm not

> > > putting

> > > > the

> > > > > > > > helmet

> > > > > > > > > back on now until it's adjusted, plus I printed some

> > > > > pictures of

> > > > > > > > > what happened last night to show the ortho. It's

> > > > definitely

> > > > > a

> > > > > > > red

> > > > > > > > > mark and not a rash.

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Anyway, I was doing a search of the boards to see if

> > > others

> > > > > had

> > > > > > > > this

> > > > > > > > > problem and I ran across some info that said that

> > Hanger

> > > > > Helmets

> > > > > > > > > were active ones and not passive? I was under the

> > > > impression

> > > > > > > that

> > > > > > > > > it was a passive one and that her head was supposed

> to

> > > grow

> > > > > into

> > > > > > > > > it? Did I just not ask the appropriate questions of

> > the

> > > > > ortho?

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > With all the issues my girl has had since getting

> the

> > > > helmet,

> > > > > > > I'm

> > > > > > > > > seriously doubting my decision to treat now. In my

> > head

> > > I

> > > > > know

> > > > > > > it

> > > > > > > > > will be for the best in the long run, but in my

> heart I

> > > hate

> > > > > > > > putting

> > > > > > > > > her through all of this.

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Thanks for any input,

> > > > > > > > > Kirsten

> > > > > > > > > Mom to Laurel - Hanger Helmet 3.15.06

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > >

> > > >

> > >

> >

>

March 31, 2006

Kirsten,

There's a huge difference between passive, active and surgery. Passive

helmets rely totally on growth. The helmet sits on the baby's head and

eventually that baby's head grows into the shape of the helmet, round.

An active band is just that active. It redirects the growth of the

head through gentle pressure not felt by the baby.

How would surgery be active? That totally confuses me.

I don't understand how she can tell you it's ok to add foam to the

helmet. By adding foam to the helmet he just changed the shape of the

helmet. Why bother casting/scanning if you're just going to change the

shape of the helmet by adding foam to it? Please be on your toes.

We've had more than one baby here have foam added to their band b/c

the band was ill fitting. Their bands ended up making their plagio worse.

-- In Plagiocephaly , " shields31 " <shields31@...> wrote:

>

> OK, I just got off the phone with the nurse. She explained to me

> that it is an active helmet, but that some people consider helmets

> in general to be passive and that by active they mean surgery, or

> some other form of invasive type procedure.

>

> Also, I asked her about the foam inserts and she said that was

> fine. She did ask who my ortho was and she said that if I'd told

> her anyone but Greg that she might be worried, but that he is very

> good. She said did say that I could come in to see Dr. Gordon if I

> wanted to though. I told her that I think I'm going to see how this

> go-round with the fitting goes and take it from there. I think I

> just need to give it more time.

>

> Thanks again for all the support, it really has made this whole

> process easier.

>

> Thanks,

> Kirsten

>

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Currently Laurel is out of her Hanger helmet, she

> has

> > > been

> > > > > VERY

> > > > > > > > sick

> > > > > > > > > with an ear infection and was in and out of her

> helmet

> > > over

> > > > > the

> > > > > > > > > weekend. When her fever would go up, we'd take it

> off

> > > > until

> > > > > it

> > > > > > > > came

> > > > > > > > > back down.

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > I noticed that she was getting a pretty bad

> indentation

> > > on

> > > > > her

> > > > > > > left

> > > > > > > > > cheek from the helmet, so I changed her next

> > appointment

> > > > from

> > > > > > > April

> > > > > > > > > 3rd to tomorrow. It seemed to go away, so I put the

> > > helmet

> > > > > back

> > > > > > > on

> > > > > > > > > her. So last night I took it off for her bath and

> she

> > > had

> > > > a

> > > > > BIG

> > > > > > > > red

> > > > > > > > > mark on her cheek that didn't go away after an

> > hour...in

> > > > > fact,

> > > > > > > most

> > > > > > > > > of the mark is still there this morning! I'm not

> > > putting

> > > > the

> > > > > > > > helmet

> > > > > > > > > back on now until it's adjusted, plus I printed some

> > > > > pictures of

> > > > > > > > > what happened last night to show the ortho. It's

> > > > definitely

> > > > > a

> > > > > > > red

> > > > > > > > > mark and not a rash.

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Anyway, I was doing a search of the boards to see if

> > > others

> > > > > had

> > > > > > > > this

> > > > > > > > > problem and I ran across some info that said that

> > Hanger

> > > > > Helmets

> > > > > > > > > were active ones and not passive? I was under the

> > > > impression

> > > > > > > that

> > > > > > > > > it was a passive one and that her head was supposed

> to

> > > grow

> > > > > into

> > > > > > > > > it? Did I just not ask the appropriate questions of

> > the

> > > > > ortho?

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > With all the issues my girl has had since getting

> the

> > > > helmet,

> > > > > > > I'm

> > > > > > > > > seriously doubting my decision to treat now. In my

> > head

> > > I

> > > > > know

> > > > > > > it

> > > > > > > > > will be for the best in the long run, but in my

> heart I

> > > hate

> > > > > > > > putting

> > > > > > > > > her through all of this.

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Thanks for any input,

> > > > > > > > > Kirsten

> > > > > > > > > Mom to Laurel - Hanger Helmet 3.15.06

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > >

> > > >

> > >

> >

>

March 31, 2006

I agree with - growth spurt. Kiersten was banded at 7 1/2

months. She has not gone 2 weeks without an adjustment. In the

beginning she was getting them every week!

na, DOC Grad X2

Kiersten, DOC Band 1/10/06, Tort

www.thefilyaws.com/plagio/plagio.html

> > > >

> > > > Currently Laurel is out of her Hanger helmet, she has been

VERY

> > sick

> > > > with an ear infection and was in and out of her helmet over

the

> > > > weekend. When her fever would go up, we'd take it off until

it

> > came

> > > > back down.

> > > >

> > > > I noticed that she was getting a pretty bad indentation on

her

> > left

> > > > cheek from the helmet, so I changed her next appointment from

> > April

> > > > 3rd to tomorrow. It seemed to go away, so I put the helmet

back

> > on

> > > > her. So last night I took it off for her bath and she had a

BIG

> > red

> > > > mark on her cheek that didn't go away after an hour...in

fact,

> > most

> > > > of the mark is still there this morning! I'm not putting the

> > helmet

> > > > back on now until it's adjusted, plus I printed some pictures

of

> > > > what happened last night to show the ortho. It's definitely

a

> > red

> > > > mark and not a rash.

> > > >

> > > > Anyway, I was doing a search of the boards to see if others

had

> > this

> > > > problem and I ran across some info that said that Hanger

Helmets

> > > > were active ones and not passive? I was under the impression

> > that

> > > > it was a passive one and that her head was supposed to grow

into

> > > > it? Did I just not ask the appropriate questions of the

ortho?

> > > >

> > > > With all the issues my girl has had since getting the helmet,

> > I'm

> > > > seriously doubting my decision to treat now. In my head I

know

> > it

> > > > will be for the best in the long run, but in my heart I hate

> > putting

> > > > her through all of this.

> > > >

> > > > Thanks for any input,

> > > > Kirsten

> > > > Mom to Laurel - Hanger Helmet 3.15.06

> > > >

> > >

> >

>

March 31, 2006

I agree with - growth spurt. Kiersten was banded at 7 1/2

months. She has not gone 2 weeks without an adjustment. In the

beginning she was getting them every week!

na, DOC Grad X2

Kiersten, DOC Band 1/10/06, Tort

www.thefilyaws.com/plagio/plagio.html

> > > >

> > > > Currently Laurel is out of her Hanger helmet, she has been

VERY

> > sick

> > > > with an ear infection and was in and out of her helmet over

the

> > > > weekend. When her fever would go up, we'd take it off until

it

> > came

> > > > back down.

> > > >

> > > > I noticed that she was getting a pretty bad indentation on

her

> > left

> > > > cheek from the helmet, so I changed her next appointment from

> > April

> > > > 3rd to tomorrow. It seemed to go away, so I put the helmet

back

> > on

> > > > her. So last night I took it off for her bath and she had a

BIG

> > red

> > > > mark on her cheek that didn't go away after an hour...in

fact,

> > most

> > > > of the mark is still there this morning! I'm not putting the

> > helmet

> > > > back on now until it's adjusted, plus I printed some pictures

of

> > > > what happened last night to show the ortho. It's definitely

a

> > red

> > > > mark and not a rash.

> > > >

> > > > Anyway, I was doing a search of the boards to see if others

had

> > this

> > > > problem and I ran across some info that said that Hanger

Helmets

> > > > were active ones and not passive? I was under the impression

> > that

> > > > it was a passive one and that her head was supposed to grow

into

> > > > it? Did I just not ask the appropriate questions of the

ortho?

> > > >

> > > > With all the issues my girl has had since getting the helmet,

> > I'm

> > > > seriously doubting my decision to treat now. In my head I

know

> > it

> > > > will be for the best in the long run, but in my heart I hate

> > putting

> > > > her through all of this.

> > > >

> > > > Thanks for any input,

> > > > Kirsten

> > > > Mom to Laurel - Hanger Helmet 3.15.06

> > > >

> > >

> >

>

April 1, 2006

My ortho told me that he would schedule Laurel for monthly

adjustments, but anytime I felt like she needed to be looked at to

call. He also told me if they try to do like they did the last time

and give me an appointment for a week out to tell them he said to

try harder. He said, if she needs something, he wants to see her

either that day or the day after.

> > > > >

> > > > > Currently Laurel is out of her Hanger helmet, she has been

> VERY

> > > sick

> > > > > with an ear infection and was in and out of her helmet

over

> the

> > > > > weekend. When her fever would go up, we'd take it off

until

> it

> > > came

> > > > > back down.

> > > > >

> > > > > I noticed that she was getting a pretty bad indentation on

> her

> > > left

> > > > > cheek from the helmet, so I changed her next appointment

from

> > > April

> > > > > 3rd to tomorrow. It seemed to go away, so I put the

helmet

> back

> > > on

> > > > > her. So last night I took it off for her bath and she had

a

> BIG

> > > red

> > > > > mark on her cheek that didn't go away after an hour...in

> fact,

> > > most

> > > > > of the mark is still there this morning! I'm not putting

the

> > > helmet

> > > > > back on now until it's adjusted, plus I printed some

pictures

> of

> > > > > what happened last night to show the ortho. It's

definitely

> a

> > > red

> > > > > mark and not a rash.

> > > > >

> > > > > Anyway, I was doing a search of the boards to see if

others

> had

> > > this

> > > > > problem and I ran across some info that said that Hanger

> Helmets

> > > > > were active ones and not passive? I was under the

impression

> > > that

> > > > > it was a passive one and that her head was supposed to

grow

> into

> > > > > it? Did I just not ask the appropriate questions of the

> ortho?

> > > > >

> > > > > With all the issues my girl has had since getting the

helmet,

> > > I'm

> > > > > seriously doubting my decision to treat now. In my head I

> know

> > > it

> > > > > will be for the best in the long run, but in my heart I

hate

> > > putting

> > > > > her through all of this.

> > > > >

> > > > > Thanks for any input,

> > > > > Kirsten

> > > > > Mom to Laurel - Hanger Helmet 3.15.06

> > > > >

> > > >

> > >

> >

>

April 1, 2006

My ortho told me that he would schedule Laurel for monthly

adjustments, but anytime I felt like she needed to be looked at to

call. He also told me if they try to do like they did the last time

and give me an appointment for a week out to tell them he said to

try harder. He said, if she needs something, he wants to see her

either that day or the day after.

> > > > >

> > > > > Currently Laurel is out of her Hanger helmet, she has been

> VERY

> > > sick

> > > > > with an ear infection and was in and out of her helmet

over

> the

> > > > > weekend. When her fever would go up, we'd take it off

until

> it

> > > came

> > > > > back down.

> > > > >

> > > > > I noticed that she was getting a pretty bad indentation on

> her

> > > left

> > > > > cheek from the helmet, so I changed her next appointment

from

> > > April

> > > > > 3rd to tomorrow. It seemed to go away, so I put the

helmet

> back

> > > on

> > > > > her. So last night I took it off for her bath and she had

a

> BIG

> > > red

> > > > > mark on her cheek that didn't go away after an hour...in

> fact,

> > > most

> > > > > of the mark is still there this morning! I'm not putting

the

> > > helmet

> > > > > back on now until it's adjusted, plus I printed some

pictures

> of

> > > > > what happened last night to show the ortho. It's

definitely

> a

> > > red

> > > > > mark and not a rash.

> > > > >

> > > > > Anyway, I was doing a search of the boards to see if

others

> had

> > > this

> > > > > problem and I ran across some info that said that Hanger

> Helmets

> > > > > were active ones and not passive? I was under the

impression

> > > that

> > > > > it was a passive one and that her head was supposed to

grow

> into

> > > > > it? Did I just not ask the appropriate questions of the

> ortho?

> > > > >

> > > > > With all the issues my girl has had since getting the

helmet,

> > > I'm

> > > > > seriously doubting my decision to treat now. In my head I

> know

> > > it

> > > > > will be for the best in the long run, but in my heart I

hate

> > > putting

> > > > > her through all of this.

> > > > >

> > > > > Thanks for any input,

> > > > > Kirsten

> > > > > Mom to Laurel - Hanger Helmet 3.15.06

> > > > >

> > > >

> > >

> >

>

April 1, 2006

I will certainly keep careful watch over it. But I compared

Laurel's head now to one from the day she was fitted and there is

actually some improvement. After talking with the plastic surgery

nurse, I do feel much better about it. Cincinnati Children's is one

of the premiere children's plastic surgery units in the country, if

they say it's OK then I'm OK with it. If there is one thing I have

found out, it's that almost none of these places have the same

course of treatment using the different helmets.

That being said, I will definitely keep an eye on her. Greg (the

ortho) told me that I could come back in any time to get adjustments

and the PS nurse said that if I want to see Dr. Gordon, all I have

to do is call and they'll get me in.

Thanks for all the insight and help, it's much appreciated.

Kirsten

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > Currently Laurel is out of her Hanger helmet,

she

> > has

> > > > been

> > > > > > VERY

> > > > > > > > > sick

> > > > > > > > > > with an ear infection and was in and out of her

> > helmet

> > > > over

> > > > > > the

> > > > > > > > > > weekend. When her fever would go up, we'd take

it

> > off

> > > > > until

> > > > > > it

> > > > > > > > > came

> > > > > > > > > > back down.

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > I noticed that she was getting a pretty bad

> > indentation

> > > > on

> > > > > > her

> > > > > > > > left

> > > > > > > > > > cheek from the helmet, so I changed her next

> > > appointment

> > > > > from

> > > > > > > > April

> > > > > > > > > > 3rd to tomorrow. It seemed to go away, so I put

the

> > > > helmet

> > > > > > back

> > > > > > > > on

> > > > > > > > > > her. So last night I took it off for her bath

and

> > she

> > > > had

> > > > > a

> > > > > > BIG

> > > > > > > > > red

> > > > > > > > > > mark on her cheek that didn't go away after an

> > > hour...in

> > > > > > fact,

> > > > > > > > most

> > > > > > > > > > of the mark is still there this morning! I'm

not

> > > > putting

> > > > > the

> > > > > > > > > helmet

> > > > > > > > > > back on now until it's adjusted, plus I printed

some

> > > > > > pictures of

> > > > > > > > > > what happened last night to show the ortho.

It's

> > > > > definitely

> > > > > > a

> > > > > > > > red

> > > > > > > > > > mark and not a rash.

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > Anyway, I was doing a search of the boards to

see if

> > > > others

> > > > > > had

> > > > > > > > > this

> > > > > > > > > > problem and I ran across some info that said

that

> > > Hanger

> > > > > > Helmets

> > > > > > > > > > were active ones and not passive? I was under

the

> > > > > impression

> > > > > > > > that

> > > > > > > > > > it was a passive one and that her head was

supposed

> > to

> > > > grow

> > > > > > into

> > > > > > > > > > it? Did I just not ask the appropriate

questions of

> > > the

> > > > > > ortho?

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > With all the issues my girl has had since

getting

> > the

> > > > > helmet,

> > > > > > > > I'm

> > > > > > > > > > seriously doubting my decision to treat now. In

my

> > > head

> > > > I

> > > > > > know

> > > > > > > > it

> > > > > > > > > > will be for the best in the long run, but in my

> > heart I

> > > > hate

> > > > > > > > > putting

> > > > > > > > > > her through all of this.

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > Thanks for any input,

> > > > > > > > > > Kirsten

> > > > > > > > > > Mom to Laurel - Hanger Helmet 3.15.06

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > >

> > > >

> > >

> >

>

April 1, 2006

I will certainly keep careful watch over it. But I compared

Laurel's head now to one from the day she was fitted and there is

actually some improvement. After talking with the plastic surgery

nurse, I do feel much better about it. Cincinnati Children's is one

of the premiere children's plastic surgery units in the country, if

they say it's OK then I'm OK with it. If there is one thing I have

found out, it's that almost none of these places have the same

course of treatment using the different helmets.

That being said, I will definitely keep an eye on her. Greg (the

ortho) told me that I could come back in any time to get adjustments

and the PS nurse said that if I want to see Dr. Gordon, all I have

to do is call and they'll get me in.

Thanks for all the insight and help, it's much appreciated.

Kirsten

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > Currently Laurel is out of her Hanger helmet,

she

> > has

> > > > been

> > > > > > VERY

> > > > > > > > > sick

> > > > > > > > > > with an ear infection and was in and out of her

> > helmet

> > > > over

> > > > > > the

> > > > > > > > > > weekend. When her fever would go up, we'd take

it

> > off

> > > > > until

> > > > > > it

> > > > > > > > > came

> > > > > > > > > > back down.

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > I noticed that she was getting a pretty bad

> > indentation

> > > > on

> > > > > > her

> > > > > > > > left

> > > > > > > > > > cheek from the helmet, so I changed her next

> > > appointment

> > > > > from

> > > > > > > > April

> > > > > > > > > > 3rd to tomorrow. It seemed to go away, so I put

the

> > > > helmet

> > > > > > back

> > > > > > > > on

> > > > > > > > > > her. So last night I took it off for her bath

and

> > she

> > > > had

> > > > > a

> > > > > > BIG

> > > > > > > > > red

> > > > > > > > > > mark on her cheek that didn't go away after an

> > > hour...in

> > > > > > fact,

> > > > > > > > most

> > > > > > > > > > of the mark is still there this morning! I'm

not

> > > > putting

> > > > > the

> > > > > > > > > helmet

> > > > > > > > > > back on now until it's adjusted, plus I printed

some

> > > > > > pictures of

> > > > > > > > > > what happened last night to show the ortho.

It's

> > > > > definitely

> > > > > > a

> > > > > > > > red

> > > > > > > > > > mark and not a rash.

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > Anyway, I was doing a search of the boards to

see if

> > > > others

> > > > > > had

> > > > > > > > > this

> > > > > > > > > > problem and I ran across some info that said

that

> > > Hanger

> > > > > > Helmets

> > > > > > > > > > were active ones and not passive? I was under

the

> > > > > impression

> > > > > > > > that

> > > > > > > > > > it was a passive one and that her head was

supposed

> > to

> > > > grow

> > > > > > into

> > > > > > > > > > it? Did I just not ask the appropriate

questions of

> > > the

> > > > > > ortho?

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > With all the issues my girl has had since

getting

> > the

> > > > > helmet,

> > > > > > > > I'm

> > > > > > > > > > seriously doubting my decision to treat now. In

my

> > > head

> > > > I

> > > > > > know

> > > > > > > > it

> > > > > > > > > > will be for the best in the long run, but in my

> > heart I

> > > > hate

> > > > > > > > > putting

> > > > > > > > > > her through all of this.

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > Thanks for any input,

> > > > > > > > > > Kirsten

> > > > > > > > > > Mom to Laurel - Hanger Helmet 3.15.06

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > >

> > > >

> > >

> >

>

April 1, 2006

Laurel,

Have you asked your ortho how many babies he's treated w/a band? Some

red flags are popping up for me. Too long in between adjustments and

adding foam to her helmet. I'm not trying to freak you out, but we've

had way too many baby's plagio get worse due to ill fitting bands and

inexperienced orthos. Keep us posted.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Currently Laurel is out of her Hanger helmet, she has been

> > VERY

> > > > sick

> > > > > > with an ear infection and was in and out of her helmet

> over

> > the

> > > > > > weekend. When her fever would go up, we'd take it off

> until

> > it

> > > > came

> > > > > > back down.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > I noticed that she was getting a pretty bad indentation on

> > her

> > > > left

> > > > > > cheek from the helmet, so I changed her next appointment

> from

> > > > April

> > > > > > 3rd to tomorrow. It seemed to go away, so I put the

> helmet

> > back

> > > > on

> > > > > > her. So last night I took it off for her bath and she had

> a

> > BIG

> > > > red

> > > > > > mark on her cheek that didn't go away after an hour...in

> > fact,

> > > > most

> > > > > > of the mark is still there this morning! I'm not putting

> the

> > > > helmet

> > > > > > back on now until it's adjusted, plus I printed some

> pictures

> > of

> > > > > > what happened last night to show the ortho. It's

> definitely

> > a

> > > > red

> > > > > > mark and not a rash.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Anyway, I was doing a search of the boards to see if

> others

> > had

> > > > this

> > > > > > problem and I ran across some info that said that Hanger

> > Helmets

> > > > > > were active ones and not passive? I was under the

> impression

> > > > that

> > > > > > it was a passive one and that her head was supposed to

> grow

> > into

> > > > > > it? Did I just not ask the appropriate questions of the

> > ortho?

> > > > > >

> > > > > > With all the issues my girl has had since getting the

> helmet,

> > > > I'm

> > > > > > seriously doubting my decision to treat now. In my head I

> > know

> > > > it

> > > > > > will be for the best in the long run, but in my heart I

> hate

> > > > putting

> > > > > > her through all of this.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Thanks for any input,

> > > > > > Kirsten

> > > > > > Mom to Laurel - Hanger Helmet 3.15.06

> > > > > >

> > > > >

> > > >

> > >

> >

>

April 1, 2006

Laurel,

Have you asked your ortho how many babies he's treated w/a band? Some

red flags are popping up for me. Too long in between adjustments and

adding foam to her helmet. I'm not trying to freak you out, but we've

had way too many baby's plagio get worse due to ill fitting bands and

inexperienced orthos. Keep us posted.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Currently Laurel is out of her Hanger helmet, she has been

> > VERY

> > > > sick

> > > > > > with an ear infection and was in and out of her helmet

> over

> > the

> > > > > > weekend. When her fever would go up, we'd take it off

> until

> > it

> > > > came

> > > > > > back down.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > I noticed that she was getting a pretty bad indentation on

> > her

> > > > left

> > > > > > cheek from the helmet, so I changed her next appointment

> from

> > > > April

> > > > > > 3rd to tomorrow. It seemed to go away, so I put the

> helmet

> > back

> > > > on

> > > > > > her. So last night I took it off for her bath and she had

> a

> > BIG

> > > > red

> > > > > > mark on her cheek that didn't go away after an hour...in

> > fact,

> > > > most

> > > > > > of the mark is still there this morning! I'm not putting

> the

> > > > helmet

> > > > > > back on now until it's adjusted, plus I printed some

> pictures

> > of

> > > > > > what happened last night to show the ortho. It's

> definitely

> > a

> > > > red

> > > > > > mark and not a rash.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Anyway, I was doing a search of the boards to see if

> others

> > had

> > > > this

> > > > > > problem and I ran across some info that said that Hanger

> > Helmets

> > > > > > were active ones and not passive? I was under the

> impression

> > > > that

> > > > > > it was a passive one and that her head was supposed to

> grow

> > into

> > > > > > it? Did I just not ask the appropriate questions of the

> > ortho?

> > > > > >

> > > > > > With all the issues my girl has had since getting the

> helmet,

> > > > I'm

> > > > > > seriously doubting my decision to treat now. In my head I

> > know

> > > > it

> > > > > > will be for the best in the long run, but in my heart I

> hate

> > > > putting

> > > > > > her through all of this.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Thanks for any input,

> > > > > > Kirsten

> > > > > > Mom to Laurel - Hanger Helmet 3.15.06

> > > > > >

> > > > >

> > > >

> > >

> >

>

April 1, 2006

I haven't asked specifically how many babies, but I know that as of

now he's seeing at least 5 because that's how many were in for

adjustments the same day we were.

And the plastics nurse told me he's the best in the area, so I'm not

sure what else I can do. I may go ahead and try to get in to see

Dr. Gordon (plastic surgeon) earlier than May, when we are scheduled

now.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Currently Laurel is out of her Hanger helmet, she has

been

> > > VERY

> > > > > sick

> > > > > > > with an ear infection and was in and out of her helmet

> > over

> > > the

> > > > > > > weekend. When her fever would go up, we'd take it off

> > until

> > > it

> > > > > came

> > > > > > > back down.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > I noticed that she was getting a pretty bad

indentation on

> > > her

> > > > > left

> > > > > > > cheek from the helmet, so I changed her next

appointment

> > from

> > > > > April

> > > > > > > 3rd to tomorrow. It seemed to go away, so I put the

> > helmet

> > > back

> > > > > on

> > > > > > > her. So last night I took it off for her bath and she

had

> > a

> > > BIG

> > > > > red

> > > > > > > mark on her cheek that didn't go away after an

hour...in

> > > fact,

> > > > > most

> > > > > > > of the mark is still there this morning! I'm not

putting

> > the

> > > > > helmet

> > > > > > > back on now until it's adjusted, plus I printed some

> > pictures

> > > of

> > > > > > > what happened last night to show the ortho. It's

> > definitely

> > > a

> > > > > red

> > > > > > > mark and not a rash.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Anyway, I was doing a search of the boards to see if

> > others

> > > had

> > > > > this

> > > > > > > problem and I ran across some info that said that

Hanger

> > > Helmets

> > > > > > > were active ones and not passive? I was under the

> > impression

> > > > > that

> > > > > > > it was a passive one and that her head was supposed to

> > grow

> > > into

> > > > > > > it? Did I just not ask the appropriate questions of

the

> > > ortho?

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > With all the issues my girl has had since getting the

> > helmet,

> > > > > I'm

> > > > > > > seriously doubting my decision to treat now. In my

head I

> > > know

> > > > > it

> > > > > > > will be for the best in the long run, but in my heart

I

> > hate

> > > > > putting

> > > > > > > her through all of this.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Thanks for any input,

> > > > > > > Kirsten

> > > > > > > Mom to Laurel - Hanger Helmet 3.15.06

> > > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > >

> > > >

> > >

> >

>

April 1, 2006

I haven't asked specifically how many babies, but I know that as of

now he's seeing at least 5 because that's how many were in for

adjustments the same day we were.

And the plastics nurse told me he's the best in the area, so I'm not

sure what else I can do. I may go ahead and try to get in to see

Dr. Gordon (plastic surgeon) earlier than May, when we are scheduled

now.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Currently Laurel is out of her Hanger helmet, she has

been

> > > VERY

> > > > > sick

> > > > > > > with an ear infection and was in and out of her helmet

> > over

> > > the

> > > > > > > weekend. When her fever would go up, we'd take it off

> > until

> > > it

> > > > > came

> > > > > > > back down.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > I noticed that she was getting a pretty bad

indentation on

> > > her

> > > > > left

> > > > > > > cheek from the helmet, so I changed her next

appointment

> > from

> > > > > April

> > > > > > > 3rd to tomorrow. It seemed to go away, so I put the

> > helmet

> > > back

> > > > > on

> > > > > > > her. So last night I took it off for her bath and she

had

> > a

> > > BIG

> > > > > red

> > > > > > > mark on her cheek that didn't go away after an

hour...in

> > > fact,

> > > > > most

> > > > > > > of the mark is still there this morning! I'm not

putting

> > the

> > > > > helmet

> > > > > > > back on now until it's adjusted, plus I printed some

> > pictures

> > > of

> > > > > > > what happened last night to show the ortho. It's

> > definitely

> > > a

> > > > > red

> > > > > > > mark and not a rash.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Anyway, I was doing a search of the boards to see if

> > others

> > > had

> > > > > this

> > > > > > > problem and I ran across some info that said that

Hanger

> > > Helmets

> > > > > > > were active ones and not passive? I was under the

> > impression

> > > > > that

> > > > > > > it was a passive one and that her head was supposed to

> > grow

> > > into

> > > > > > > it? Did I just not ask the appropriate questions of

the

> > > ortho?

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > With all the issues my girl has had since getting the

> > helmet,

> > > > > I'm

> > > > > > > seriously doubting my decision to treat now. In my

head I

> > > know

> > > > > it

> > > > > > > will be for the best in the long run, but in my heart

I

> > hate

> > > > > putting

> > > > > > > her through all of this.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Thanks for any input,

> > > > > > > Kirsten

> > > > > > > Mom to Laurel - Hanger Helmet 3.15.06

> > > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > >

> > > >

> > >

> >

>

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