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Regarding the pneumococcal conjugate vaccination--

This is the 'ear infection' vaccine that was announced back in January. A

small percentage of ear infections are due to this bacteria, but a large

percentage of other upper respiratory, bacterial infections that children

catch are from this bacteria.

My first pediatrician (whom I spoke with in January) was taking a wait and

see attitude at that time.

A pediatrician who I heard speak in March at a Mothers of Preschoolers

Meeting was recommending it for her patients that were in daycare situations

since those children are exposed to more infections in general and would

benefit the most from the immunity.

My current pediatrician is pushing it, he is a resident. Probably the whole

clinic we go to is pushing it. I have declined the vaccine because a baby

under 7 months needs a 4 shot series, and my youngest child isn't in a

daycare or any other at-risk groups. Should I have to put either of my

children into daycare, I would revisit my decision.

Our clinic brings in a second nurse for administering shots, so that if you

get more than one shot they can happen almost simultaneously. If that

second nurse isn't available I have the option to reschedule for

vaccinations at another appointment.

As for your other questions... others have already commented what I would

have to say and far better.

Amy Lynn

mother to 1-25-98 and 2-10-00

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>I have declined the vaccine because a baby

> under 7 months needs a 4 shot series, and my youngest child isn't in a

> daycare or any other at-risk groups. Should I have to put either of my

> children into daycare, I would revisit my decision.

>

Exactly my thoughts as well. I declined the shot (feeling rather brave since

I normally do what is recommended), and my ped said OK but you should get it

later if your schedules change and you will be taking her to daycare even

one day a month.

Lynn

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>I have declined the vaccine because a baby

> under 7 months needs a 4 shot series, and my youngest child isn't in a

> daycare or any other at-risk groups. Should I have to put either of my

> children into daycare, I would revisit my decision.

>

Exactly my thoughts as well. I declined the shot (feeling rather brave since

I normally do what is recommended), and my ped said OK but you should get it

later if your schedules change and you will be taking her to daycare even

one day a month.

Lynn

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In a message dated 08/10/2000 6:34:26 PM !!!First Boot!!!,

bcomer@... writes:

<< Doesn't this seem excessive to anyone else but me? Anyone

know anything about the new shot called " pneumococcal conjugate "

vaccine? >>

I think so, is that the one that is supposed to protect against meningitis

and a couple of other things? I have some info on it at home (I think I still

have it) I will look for it and post more later. This I do know, it is

reccomended by the APA, and NOT covered by my ins (BCBS) So since its like

$70 per shot we have decided to wait until they do which my ped assures us it

won't be long since EVERY other major insurance co covers it already!

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In a message dated 8/10/00 11:34:29 AM Pacific Daylight Time,

bcomer@... writes:

<< Sleeping Habits: The doc wants me to put Dean (9 weeks old tomorrow) on

a sleeping habit/pattern. He wants me to bathe him right before he

goes to bed, to put the same music on for him to hear, to pull him off

the breast before he falls asleep, to put him in his bed so he can make

himself fall asleep, and do all this at the same time everynite. He

thinks that if I don't do this, Dean will become spoiled in a few months

and will keep the family up all nite, atleast thats the way I understood

it. I do NO >>

how utterly ludricrous. you know what's best. listen to your heart.

michelle

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In a message dated 8/10/00 11:34:29 AM Pacific Daylight Time,

bcomer@... writes:

<< Sleeping Habits: The doc wants me to put Dean (9 weeks old tomorrow) on

a sleeping habit/pattern. He wants me to bathe him right before he

goes to bed, to put the same music on for him to hear, to pull him off

the breast before he falls asleep, to put him in his bed so he can make

himself fall asleep, and do all this at the same time everynite. He

thinks that if I don't do this, Dean will become spoiled in a few months

and will keep the family up all nite, atleast thats the way I understood

it. I do NO >>

how utterly ludricrous. you know what's best. listen to your heart.

michelle

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In a message dated 08/11/2000 2:57:02 PM Pacific Daylight Time,

mparker90@... writes:

<< Sleeping Habits: The doc wants me to put Dean (9 weeks old tomorrow) on

a sleeping habit/pattern. >>

I had a ped like this, he had me hold amandelyn when she was 6 weeks old or

so, and see if she would calm herself, by letting her cry.. you know, see if

they can self sooth.. I for one at 36 can barely self sooth myself hehehe..

anyway, I switched docs rather quickly, when he told me, I was giving her too

much comfort, and she needed to learn to cry it out.. come on that is so old

hat!!

Christi

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In a message dated 08/11/2000 2:57:02 PM Pacific Daylight Time,

mparker90@... writes:

<< Sleeping Habits: The doc wants me to put Dean (9 weeks old tomorrow) on

a sleeping habit/pattern. >>

I had a ped like this, he had me hold amandelyn when she was 6 weeks old or

so, and see if she would calm herself, by letting her cry.. you know, see if

they can self sooth.. I for one at 36 can barely self sooth myself hehehe..

anyway, I switched docs rather quickly, when he told me, I was giving her too

much comfort, and she needed to learn to cry it out.. come on that is so old

hat!!

Christi

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In a message dated 08/11/2000 2:57:02 PM Pacific Daylight Time,

mparker90@... writes:

<< Sleeping Habits: The doc wants me to put Dean (9 weeks old tomorrow) on

a sleeping habit/pattern. >>

I had a ped like this, he had me hold amandelyn when she was 6 weeks old or

so, and see if she would calm herself, by letting her cry.. you know, see if

they can self sooth.. I for one at 36 can barely self sooth myself hehehe..

anyway, I switched docs rather quickly, when he told me, I was giving her too

much comfort, and she needed to learn to cry it out.. come on that is so old

hat!!

Christi

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You're right--pneumococcal conjugate should protect against one of the most

common forms of meningitis, plus other bacterial infections that result from

the pneumococcal bacterium.

First pediatrician was definitely not going to push it if a patient's

insurance didn't cover it, since the ins. cos. should cover it soon--lots

less $$ than a hospitalization or dr visit for anything that it could

prevent. This pediatrician didn't get the chance to be questioned on that

aspect, but I suspect the current ins we have does cover it. I am choosing

to wait so that dd wouldn't have to have 4 shots of it!! At current age ds

would only need 2!!

Amy Lynn

mother to 1-25-98 and 2-10-00

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Rene',

We don't vaccinate so I can't comment there, don't know much about cradle

cap but I think I would go with the more natural stuff, but the sleeping

issue I can offer some thoughts on.

I agree that you probably can't get Dean onto a " sleep schedule " at 9wks.

I never really bought into the whole 'sleep schedule' thing anyway--I don't

like to schedule my baby like that. Now ROUTINE is good for kids/babies and

is a bit different, something he can generally count on to happen that will

help him to know what is coming next but not so strictly adhered to as a

'schedule'. For instance, in general, our evenings go something like this:

Daddy home around 7pm, eat dinner as a family, mommy cleans up while Daddy &

Drake play, go for a walk, bike ride,whatever, Mommy joins in for a bit (or

takes some time for herself on days when she needs it!), bathtime--given by

mommy or daddy, jammies, snack, some tv and/or books until he's sleepy, give

Daddy hugs/kisses ni-nite and Drake and Mommy are off to the bed for nursing

and sleep.

For us, our lives are hectic and of course not every day is the same. I

didn't want to get Drake into such a schedule/pattern that if we were out

somewhere or staying with family/friends that he was so out of his element

that he couldn't manage. I needed him to be able to deal with a variety of

situations (and he does fine BTW) so I just kept things kind of loose and

mostly just what worked for us. THat's probably the best advise I can give

you--just do what is going to work the best for you and your family. THat

dr has no idea what your homelife is like and can't really make a good

suggestion on how you should structure your evenings. As far as Dean

becoming 'spoiled' I don't believe it--babies cannot be spoiled. I'd always

rathered that my baby know I was a constant in his life and always to be

counted on (held him as much as I wanted, never made him cry it out or cry

for me, etc) rather than put him through something silly/uncomfortable just

for fear of 'spoiling' him.

I got a little windy here--sorry--just got some quiet time here and went to

town!!

Hope it helps, but really don't stress yourself out over it. It took us

awhile to find our routine and it will you too. LIke I said, just find what

works for your family and it'll all work out.

Take care!

Fawn

Drake 8-18-98

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