Guest guest Posted May 25, 2005 Report Share Posted May 25, 2005 Hi , I see has already directed you to our Repositioning Headquarters section. We have had lots of successful repo members, check out the Photos/before and after/repo folder for pics. Have you ever had her plagio evaluated for severity? If not there is a severity assessment in our links section. Have you had her evaluated for torticollis? Repo can be near impossible in a baby w/tort, but even without it will be getting more difficult now that your baby is more mobile. You have to be able to commit 24/7 for repo to be truly effective. Also, if your daughter is on the upper moderate to severe side, you would be better off looking into a helmet for her at this point. The basic point of repo is to keep her off that flat spot ALL the time. The only time you should be lying her on it is in the car seat when you can't help it b/c you have to use it in the car. You can buy a Boppy Noggin Nest though. There are tons of products out there to asssist in repo and a huge part of that is tummy time. Check out the Tummy Time brochure on www.cranialtech.com . Good luck! , mom to Hannah, DOCgrad Cape Cod, Ma http://hannahsnoggin.typepad.com > Hi, > > My daughter is almost 5 month old and has mild Plagio, the left side of > is more prominent, her right side has gotten flatter, and she developed > a flat spot on the top-back of her head, I want to try repositioning > first, can someone tell me how to do repositioning and what and where > to buy tools? Thank you so much! > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 25, 2005 Report Share Posted May 25, 2005 Hi , I see has already directed you to our Repositioning Headquarters section. We have had lots of successful repo members, check out the Photos/before and after/repo folder for pics. Have you ever had her plagio evaluated for severity? If not there is a severity assessment in our links section. Have you had her evaluated for torticollis? Repo can be near impossible in a baby w/tort, but even without it will be getting more difficult now that your baby is more mobile. You have to be able to commit 24/7 for repo to be truly effective. Also, if your daughter is on the upper moderate to severe side, you would be better off looking into a helmet for her at this point. The basic point of repo is to keep her off that flat spot ALL the time. The only time you should be lying her on it is in the car seat when you can't help it b/c you have to use it in the car. You can buy a Boppy Noggin Nest though. There are tons of products out there to asssist in repo and a huge part of that is tummy time. Check out the Tummy Time brochure on www.cranialtech.com . Good luck! , mom to Hannah, DOCgrad Cape Cod, Ma http://hannahsnoggin.typepad.com > Hi, > > My daughter is almost 5 month old and has mild Plagio, the left side of > is more prominent, her right side has gotten flatter, and she developed > a flat spot on the top-back of her head, I want to try repositioning > first, can someone tell me how to do repositioning and what and where > to buy tools? Thank you so much! > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 12, 2005 Report Share Posted October 12, 2005 Hi , Remy was never measured by a professional, so we did the best we could with at-home estimates of asymmetry. Her head shape was primarily a brachy head shape (flat all across the back of the head,) with a bit of plagio thrown in, so she was a bit flatter on her back right side. Brachy is expressed in the cephalic ratio, which is merely the ratio of head width to head length. We measured her ratio to be 1.00, the same width and length. Ideally she should have measured at .78 or so, so she was really off! At 18 months, her cephalic ratio was down to .84, so we were every happy about that amount of improvement. My own eyeball of her plagio puts it at about 10mm. Currently I would say she is about 3mm. We started repo at 5 months of age, and graduated her from repo at about 13 months old, when we finally stopped the obvious efforts of repo. However, we did see additional improvements betweeen 13 and 18 months - her head lengthened a bit more, and she also had bulges over her ears which dimished in size some. FYI, we had set a repo deadline of 8 months of age. When she was 8 months old, we were very happy with her progress, and would have been happy if she didn't improve anymore, so we decided not to band, and continued on with repo. I don't know if you have already seen Remy's progress pics, but there is a collage of them in the Photos/Before and After/Repositioned/Remy album. How long did it take you to go from 9mm to 6mm? At only 4 1/2 months old, your baby is still young enough to get improvement from aggressive repo. The key to getting results is ensuring the baby is NEVER on his/her flat spot ever, 24 hours a day, and to also take advantage of every opportunity to keep the baby's head ON the bulging area. The best opportunity for this is during sleep. Would you describe to me his head placement at night while in the positioner? How often would you say is he able to wiggle into another position and back onto his flat area? Other moms have fashioned little wedges, pillow, bags of rice, or rolled up washcloths that were directly attached to snug pjs - sort of like a positioner the baby can't wriggle away from, if you know what I mean. There are some photos of these ideas in the Files/Repo Headquarters/Repo Photos/Nighttime folder. Some examples of the extremes I went to, to ensure Remy's head stayed on the bulging parts while sleeping was that we had a camera over her crib that streamed video to our computer monitor and PIP TV so that we could keep constant eye on her, she took her nap in my arms for 3 months straight while I ensured her bulging part rested on my breastbone, and also some nights I brought her to the guest bedroom and stayed up all night right next to her ensuring her head stayed put. It was so grueling I can't even believe I managed to do it, looking back on the whole repo experience!! Other opportunities for head placement on the bulging parts are during the day. The minutes will add up, so I encourage you to repo in this manner as much as you are able, mentally and physically able. Some examples are hold your baby in your lap/arms as much as possible with his/her bulging part of the head resting on your breastbone, if you bottle feed then bottle feeding in the one arm that will allow you to always place baby's bulging part of the head against your breastbone, always propping baby's head while in the stroller or carseat off of the flat area and onto the bulging area, feeding baby in the highchair to one side so that the baby turns head off of flat area and onto bulging area against the seat back, playing on the floor to one side of baby so that head must be turned in same manner, etc. I distinctly remember loathing repo because I felt it dictated how I held, fed, and played with my baby, but we were desperate for results so every minute counted. In fact, although car trips were kept to a bare minimum so that Remy wouldn't be flattening her head in the carseat, when we did go somewhere, either me or my husband rode in the back seat next to the car seat to constantly monitor her head position! Would you let me know if any of these ideas are working for you, or if you have a specific challenge I can brainstorm some about? Take care, Christie (Mom to Repo'd Remy) --- In Plagiocephaly , Wirtz <hmwirtz@y...> wrote: > > > Christy, > > > > I am interested in information about using repositioning to treat mild forms of Plagiocephaly. I understand you have been successful with this method. Do you know the measurements of your child when you started or finished? What age was your child when you began? > > > > My son is four and a half months old and we have been seeing a therapist since he was six weeks old. We have improved from a 9 mm to a 6 mm deferential. He sleeps in a sleep positioner each night, but sometimes manages to wiggle himself into other positions. Any other suggestions? > > > > Thank you for your assistance. > > > > > > > > --------------------------------- > Music Unlimited - Access over 1 million songs. Try it free. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 12, 2005 Report Share Posted October 12, 2005 Hi , Remy was never measured by a professional, so we did the best we could with at-home estimates of asymmetry. Her head shape was primarily a brachy head shape (flat all across the back of the head,) with a bit of plagio thrown in, so she was a bit flatter on her back right side. Brachy is expressed in the cephalic ratio, which is merely the ratio of head width to head length. We measured her ratio to be 1.00, the same width and length. Ideally she should have measured at .78 or so, so she was really off! At 18 months, her cephalic ratio was down to .84, so we were every happy about that amount of improvement. My own eyeball of her plagio puts it at about 10mm. Currently I would say she is about 3mm. We started repo at 5 months of age, and graduated her from repo at about 13 months old, when we finally stopped the obvious efforts of repo. However, we did see additional improvements betweeen 13 and 18 months - her head lengthened a bit more, and she also had bulges over her ears which dimished in size some. FYI, we had set a repo deadline of 8 months of age. When she was 8 months old, we were very happy with her progress, and would have been happy if she didn't improve anymore, so we decided not to band, and continued on with repo. I don't know if you have already seen Remy's progress pics, but there is a collage of them in the Photos/Before and After/Repositioned/Remy album. How long did it take you to go from 9mm to 6mm? At only 4 1/2 months old, your baby is still young enough to get improvement from aggressive repo. The key to getting results is ensuring the baby is NEVER on his/her flat spot ever, 24 hours a day, and to also take advantage of every opportunity to keep the baby's head ON the bulging area. The best opportunity for this is during sleep. Would you describe to me his head placement at night while in the positioner? How often would you say is he able to wiggle into another position and back onto his flat area? Other moms have fashioned little wedges, pillow, bags of rice, or rolled up washcloths that were directly attached to snug pjs - sort of like a positioner the baby can't wriggle away from, if you know what I mean. There are some photos of these ideas in the Files/Repo Headquarters/Repo Photos/Nighttime folder. Some examples of the extremes I went to, to ensure Remy's head stayed on the bulging parts while sleeping was that we had a camera over her crib that streamed video to our computer monitor and PIP TV so that we could keep constant eye on her, she took her nap in my arms for 3 months straight while I ensured her bulging part rested on my breastbone, and also some nights I brought her to the guest bedroom and stayed up all night right next to her ensuring her head stayed put. It was so grueling I can't even believe I managed to do it, looking back on the whole repo experience!! Other opportunities for head placement on the bulging parts are during the day. The minutes will add up, so I encourage you to repo in this manner as much as you are able, mentally and physically able. Some examples are hold your baby in your lap/arms as much as possible with his/her bulging part of the head resting on your breastbone, if you bottle feed then bottle feeding in the one arm that will allow you to always place baby's bulging part of the head against your breastbone, always propping baby's head while in the stroller or carseat off of the flat area and onto the bulging area, feeding baby in the highchair to one side so that the baby turns head off of flat area and onto bulging area against the seat back, playing on the floor to one side of baby so that head must be turned in same manner, etc. I distinctly remember loathing repo because I felt it dictated how I held, fed, and played with my baby, but we were desperate for results so every minute counted. In fact, although car trips were kept to a bare minimum so that Remy wouldn't be flattening her head in the carseat, when we did go somewhere, either me or my husband rode in the back seat next to the car seat to constantly monitor her head position! Would you let me know if any of these ideas are working for you, or if you have a specific challenge I can brainstorm some about? Take care, Christie (Mom to Repo'd Remy) --- In Plagiocephaly , Wirtz <hmwirtz@y...> wrote: > > > Christy, > > > > I am interested in information about using repositioning to treat mild forms of Plagiocephaly. I understand you have been successful with this method. Do you know the measurements of your child when you started or finished? What age was your child when you began? > > > > My son is four and a half months old and we have been seeing a therapist since he was six weeks old. We have improved from a 9 mm to a 6 mm deferential. He sleeps in a sleep positioner each night, but sometimes manages to wiggle himself into other positions. Any other suggestions? > > > > Thank you for your assistance. > > > > > > > > --------------------------------- > Music Unlimited - Access over 1 million songs. Try it free. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 12, 2005 Report Share Posted October 12, 2005 Thank you so much. I am curious about why you chose to use repositioning instead of a band. It took about 2 1/2 weeks to go from 9 mm to 6 mm's, but at his last visit he had not changed. His positioner has him up on his left side (it is his right side that is flattened) so that he looks to his left. He often ends up completely floping over to his left side so that he is no longer on the "point". Does this make sense? redlocks2003 <redlocks@...> wrote: Hi ,Remy was never measured by a professional, so we did the best we could with at-home estimates of asymmetry. Her head shape was primarily a brachy head shape (flat all across the back of the head,) with a bit of plagio thrown in, so she was a bit flatter on her back right side. Brachy is expressed in the cephalic ratio, which is merely the ratio of head width to head length. We measured her ratio to be 1.00, the same width and length. Ideally she should have measured at .78 or so, so she was really off! At 18 months, her cephalic ratio was down to .84, so we were every happy about that amount of improvement. My own eyeball of her plagio puts it at about 10mm. Currently I would say she is about 3mm.We started repo at 5 months of age, and graduated her from repo at about 13 months old, when we finally stopped the obvious efforts of repo. However, we did see additional improvements betweeen 13 and 18 months - her head lengthened a bit more, and she also had bulges over her ears which dimished in size some. FYI, we had set a repo deadline of 8 months of age. When she was 8 months old, we were very happy with her progress, and would have been happy if she didn't improve anymore, so we decided not to band, and continued on with repo.I don't know if you have already seen Remy's progress pics, but there is a collage of them in the Photos/Before and After/Repositioned/Remy album.How long did it take you to go from 9mm to 6mm? At only 4 1/2 months old, your baby is still young enough to get improvement from aggressive repo. The key to getting results is ensuring the baby is NEVER on his/her flat spot ever, 24 hours a day, and to also take advantage of every opportunity to keep the baby's head ON the bulging area. The best opportunity for this is during sleep. Would you describe to me his head placement at night while in the positioner? How often would you say is he able to wiggle into another position and back onto his flat area? Other moms have fashioned little wedges, pillow, bags of rice, or rolled up washcloths that were directly attached to snug pjs - sort of like a positioner the baby can't wriggle away from, if you know what I mean. There are some photos of these ideas in the Files/Repo Headquarters/Repo Photos/Nighttime folder.Some examples of the extremes I went to, to ensure Remy's head stayed on the bulging parts while sleeping was that we had a camera over her crib that streamed video to our computer monitor and PIP TV so that we could keep constant eye on her, she took her nap in my arms for 3 months straight while I ensured her bulging part rested on my breastbone, and also some nights I brought her to the guest bedroom and stayed up all night right next to her ensuring her head stayed put. It was so grueling I can't even believe I managed to do it, looking back on the whole repo experience!!Other opportunities for head placement on the bulging parts are during the day. The minutes will add up, so I encourage you to repo in this manner as much as you are able, mentally and physically able. Some examples are hold your baby in your lap/arms as much as possible with his/her bulging part of the head resting on your breastbone, if you bottle feed then bottle feeding in the one arm that will allow you to always place baby's bulging part of the head against your breastbone, always propping baby's head while in the stroller or carseat off of the flat area and onto the bulging area, feeding baby in the highchair to one side so that the baby turns head off of flat area and onto bulging area against the seat back, playing on the floor to one side of baby so that head must be turned in same manner, etc. I distinctly remember loathing repo because I felt it dictated how I held, fed, and played with my baby, but we were desperate for results so every minute counted. In fact, although car trips were kept to a bare minimum so that Remy wouldn't be flattening her head in the carseat, when we did go somewhere, either me or my husband rode in the back seat next to the car seat to constantly monitor her head position!Would you let me know if any of these ideas are working for you, or if you have a specific challenge I can brainstorm some about? Take care,Christie (Mom to Repo'd Remy)>> > Christy,> > > > I am interested in information about using repositioning to treat mild forms of Plagiocephaly. I understand you have been successful with this method. Do you know the measurements of your child when you started or finished? What age was your child when you began?> > > > My son is four and a half months old and we have been seeing a therapist since he was six weeks old. We have improved from a 9 mm to a 6 mm deferential. He sleeps in a sleep positioner each night, but sometimes manages to wiggle himself into other positions. Any other suggestions? > > > > Thank you for your assistance.> > > > > > > > ---------------------------------> Music Unlimited - Access over 1 million songs. Try it free.> Music Unlimited - Access over 1 million songs. Try it free. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 12, 2005 Report Share Posted October 12, 2005 Thank you so much. I am curious about why you chose to use repositioning instead of a band. It took about 2 1/2 weeks to go from 9 mm to 6 mm's, but at his last visit he had not changed. His positioner has him up on his left side (it is his right side that is flattened) so that he looks to his left. He often ends up completely floping over to his left side so that he is no longer on the "point". Does this make sense? redlocks2003 <redlocks@...> wrote: Hi ,Remy was never measured by a professional, so we did the best we could with at-home estimates of asymmetry. Her head shape was primarily a brachy head shape (flat all across the back of the head,) with a bit of plagio thrown in, so she was a bit flatter on her back right side. Brachy is expressed in the cephalic ratio, which is merely the ratio of head width to head length. We measured her ratio to be 1.00, the same width and length. Ideally she should have measured at .78 or so, so she was really off! At 18 months, her cephalic ratio was down to .84, so we were every happy about that amount of improvement. My own eyeball of her plagio puts it at about 10mm. Currently I would say she is about 3mm.We started repo at 5 months of age, and graduated her from repo at about 13 months old, when we finally stopped the obvious efforts of repo. However, we did see additional improvements betweeen 13 and 18 months - her head lengthened a bit more, and she also had bulges over her ears which dimished in size some. FYI, we had set a repo deadline of 8 months of age. When she was 8 months old, we were very happy with her progress, and would have been happy if she didn't improve anymore, so we decided not to band, and continued on with repo.I don't know if you have already seen Remy's progress pics, but there is a collage of them in the Photos/Before and After/Repositioned/Remy album.How long did it take you to go from 9mm to 6mm? At only 4 1/2 months old, your baby is still young enough to get improvement from aggressive repo. The key to getting results is ensuring the baby is NEVER on his/her flat spot ever, 24 hours a day, and to also take advantage of every opportunity to keep the baby's head ON the bulging area. The best opportunity for this is during sleep. Would you describe to me his head placement at night while in the positioner? How often would you say is he able to wiggle into another position and back onto his flat area? Other moms have fashioned little wedges, pillow, bags of rice, or rolled up washcloths that were directly attached to snug pjs - sort of like a positioner the baby can't wriggle away from, if you know what I mean. There are some photos of these ideas in the Files/Repo Headquarters/Repo Photos/Nighttime folder.Some examples of the extremes I went to, to ensure Remy's head stayed on the bulging parts while sleeping was that we had a camera over her crib that streamed video to our computer monitor and PIP TV so that we could keep constant eye on her, she took her nap in my arms for 3 months straight while I ensured her bulging part rested on my breastbone, and also some nights I brought her to the guest bedroom and stayed up all night right next to her ensuring her head stayed put. It was so grueling I can't even believe I managed to do it, looking back on the whole repo experience!!Other opportunities for head placement on the bulging parts are during the day. The minutes will add up, so I encourage you to repo in this manner as much as you are able, mentally and physically able. Some examples are hold your baby in your lap/arms as much as possible with his/her bulging part of the head resting on your breastbone, if you bottle feed then bottle feeding in the one arm that will allow you to always place baby's bulging part of the head against your breastbone, always propping baby's head while in the stroller or carseat off of the flat area and onto the bulging area, feeding baby in the highchair to one side so that the baby turns head off of flat area and onto bulging area against the seat back, playing on the floor to one side of baby so that head must be turned in same manner, etc. I distinctly remember loathing repo because I felt it dictated how I held, fed, and played with my baby, but we were desperate for results so every minute counted. In fact, although car trips were kept to a bare minimum so that Remy wouldn't be flattening her head in the carseat, when we did go somewhere, either me or my husband rode in the back seat next to the car seat to constantly monitor her head position!Would you let me know if any of these ideas are working for you, or if you have a specific challenge I can brainstorm some about? Take care,Christie (Mom to Repo'd Remy)>> > Christy,> > > > I am interested in information about using repositioning to treat mild forms of Plagiocephaly. I understand you have been successful with this method. Do you know the measurements of your child when you started or finished? What age was your child when you began?> > > > My son is four and a half months old and we have been seeing a therapist since he was six weeks old. We have improved from a 9 mm to a 6 mm deferential. He sleeps in a sleep positioner each night, but sometimes manages to wiggle himself into other positions. Any other suggestions? > > > > Thank you for your assistance.> > > > > > > > ---------------------------------> Music Unlimited - Access over 1 million songs. Try it free.> Music Unlimited - Access over 1 million songs. Try it free. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 12, 2005 Report Share Posted October 12, 2005 , I think 2 1/2 weeks is great to go from 9 to 6mm. Keep up the good work!!! I understand what you are saying about him rolling over off of the point. It is best for him to stay on that point as often as possible - perhaps some of the nighttime repo ideas in the Files/Repo Hdqtrs/Repo Photos folder will help, along with you turning him back on the " point " if you check on him and he has rolled off of it. Let us know how his nighttime repo is coming along! Have you taken pictures in addition to the therapist doing measurements? As I'm sure you know, progress can happen in the 3D space over or under the flattened area where the person might be measurings, so it's important to have the bigger picture as far as headshape changes go. With Remy, we took top view and side view photos every 2 weeks. I would print them out, and then trace just the head shape itself on some tracing paper, and then lay current photo over the one from 2 weeks prior. For instance, she may not have shown any specific rounding out in the flattened area, but perhaps Remy might show some smoothing of the bulge on the back left side of her head. These little changes/improvements were sometimes to the only thing that kept us forging ahead with the difficult task of repo! I wrote up documents for the Files/Repo Headquarters/Repo Techniques folder that include one on assessing repo progress, if you haven't already read it. These ideas might be a compliment to the measurements you are already getting every so often. In our geographic area, and at the time Remy was being repo'd, there were only 2 helmets within a few hours driving distance that I knew about. Neither helmet was an FDA approved product, and I was only able to get in touch with one person who had been to one of the two facilities - her son was in the process of getting helmeted, so I had no idea of success. That ortho had little experience with helmets. The other facility had much more experience, and, in fact, I learned later that every plagio baby from our state was sent there. As I stated previously, this product was not FDA approved either, and protocol was that there were no follow-up appts or adjustments at all after you picked up the helmets - the parent just loosened or snugged up the helmet to whatever they thought it should be. Basically, I was more than disheartened with helmet choices near me, and, believe it or not, felt I could do a better job with my daughter's head if I aggressively repo'd. Even so, we did set our repo deadline, and would have gone with the first helmet with the one other member who had used it, if we decided Remy needed it. My dedication to repo was totally over the top, and I'm convinced I could not have repo'd one minute more than I did - I gave literally 100%, forgoed meals, sleep, etc. to try my best. Remy was our only child at the time, and we had the luxury of placing all of our attention on her repo. It was very scary to make that decision, because I didn't know of another baby in the group who had gone the repo route, and there certainly weren't any before and afters of anyone who had gone with repo only. Now there is a small group of us who have used repo successfully to treat up to what I would judge to be up to moderate brachy/plagio. It does help to know that others have been able to do it, and to know just how much effort it truly takes to repo. Take care, Christie (Mom to Repo'd Remy) > > > > > > Christy, > > > > > > > > I am interested in information about using repositioning to treat > mild forms of Plagiocephaly. I understand you have been successful > with this method. Do you know the measurements of your child when > you started or finished? What age was your child when you began? > > > > > > > > My son is four and a half months old and we have been seeing a > therapist since he was six weeks old. We have improved from a 9 mm > to a 6 mm deferential. He sleeps in a sleep positioner each night, > but sometimes manages to wiggle himself into other positions. Any > other suggestions? > > > > > > > > Thank you for your assistance. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --------------------------------- > > Music Unlimited - Access over 1 million songs. Try it free. > > > > > > > > > For more plagio info Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 12, 2005 Report Share Posted October 12, 2005 , I think 2 1/2 weeks is great to go from 9 to 6mm. Keep up the good work!!! I understand what you are saying about him rolling over off of the point. It is best for him to stay on that point as often as possible - perhaps some of the nighttime repo ideas in the Files/Repo Hdqtrs/Repo Photos folder will help, along with you turning him back on the " point " if you check on him and he has rolled off of it. Let us know how his nighttime repo is coming along! Have you taken pictures in addition to the therapist doing measurements? As I'm sure you know, progress can happen in the 3D space over or under the flattened area where the person might be measurings, so it's important to have the bigger picture as far as headshape changes go. With Remy, we took top view and side view photos every 2 weeks. I would print them out, and then trace just the head shape itself on some tracing paper, and then lay current photo over the one from 2 weeks prior. For instance, she may not have shown any specific rounding out in the flattened area, but perhaps Remy might show some smoothing of the bulge on the back left side of her head. These little changes/improvements were sometimes to the only thing that kept us forging ahead with the difficult task of repo! I wrote up documents for the Files/Repo Headquarters/Repo Techniques folder that include one on assessing repo progress, if you haven't already read it. These ideas might be a compliment to the measurements you are already getting every so often. In our geographic area, and at the time Remy was being repo'd, there were only 2 helmets within a few hours driving distance that I knew about. Neither helmet was an FDA approved product, and I was only able to get in touch with one person who had been to one of the two facilities - her son was in the process of getting helmeted, so I had no idea of success. That ortho had little experience with helmets. The other facility had much more experience, and, in fact, I learned later that every plagio baby from our state was sent there. As I stated previously, this product was not FDA approved either, and protocol was that there were no follow-up appts or adjustments at all after you picked up the helmets - the parent just loosened or snugged up the helmet to whatever they thought it should be. Basically, I was more than disheartened with helmet choices near me, and, believe it or not, felt I could do a better job with my daughter's head if I aggressively repo'd. Even so, we did set our repo deadline, and would have gone with the first helmet with the one other member who had used it, if we decided Remy needed it. My dedication to repo was totally over the top, and I'm convinced I could not have repo'd one minute more than I did - I gave literally 100%, forgoed meals, sleep, etc. to try my best. Remy was our only child at the time, and we had the luxury of placing all of our attention on her repo. It was very scary to make that decision, because I didn't know of another baby in the group who had gone the repo route, and there certainly weren't any before and afters of anyone who had gone with repo only. Now there is a small group of us who have used repo successfully to treat up to what I would judge to be up to moderate brachy/plagio. It does help to know that others have been able to do it, and to know just how much effort it truly takes to repo. Take care, Christie (Mom to Repo'd Remy) > > > > > > Christy, > > > > > > > > I am interested in information about using repositioning to treat > mild forms of Plagiocephaly. I understand you have been successful > with this method. Do you know the measurements of your child when > you started or finished? What age was your child when you began? > > > > > > > > My son is four and a half months old and we have been seeing a > therapist since he was six weeks old. We have improved from a 9 mm > to a 6 mm deferential. He sleeps in a sleep positioner each night, > but sometimes manages to wiggle himself into other positions. Any > other suggestions? > > > > > > > > Thank you for your assistance. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --------------------------------- > > Music Unlimited - Access over 1 million songs. Try it free. > > > > > > > > > For more plagio info Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 12, 2005 Report Share Posted December 12, 2005 Although back sleeping is not without problems, it has significantly reduced the incidence of SIDS. Please discuss alternate sleeping positions with your health care provider before choosing to do this. Other ways to prevent plagiocephaly include limiting time in baby swings and car seats, etc. In addition, plenty of supervised tummy time for playing helps to keep pressure of the back of his head. Although we did not pursue aggressive repositioning, many on this site have done so and will hopefully give you some safe suggestions. (mom to Georgia, DDH/plagio, Starband grad 11/05, and pediatric nurse practitioner) -----Original Message-----From: Plagiocephaly [mailto:Plagiocephaly ] On Behalf Of ethanpreciousSent: Monday, December 12, 2005 5:34 PMPlagiocephaly Subject: repositioningI have read alot on how the "back to sleep" campaign has increased the incidence of plagio. I am wondering if I am the only one considering letting my son sleep on his stomach. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 12, 2005 Report Share Posted December 12, 2005 Although back sleeping is not without problems, it has significantly reduced the incidence of SIDS. Please discuss alternate sleeping positions with your health care provider before choosing to do this. Other ways to prevent plagiocephaly include limiting time in baby swings and car seats, etc. In addition, plenty of supervised tummy time for playing helps to keep pressure of the back of his head. Although we did not pursue aggressive repositioning, many on this site have done so and will hopefully give you some safe suggestions. (mom to Georgia, DDH/plagio, Starband grad 11/05, and pediatric nurse practitioner) -----Original Message-----From: Plagiocephaly [mailto:Plagiocephaly ] On Behalf Of ethanpreciousSent: Monday, December 12, 2005 5:34 PMPlagiocephaly Subject: repositioningI have read alot on how the "back to sleep" campaign has increased the incidence of plagio. I am wondering if I am the only one considering letting my son sleep on his stomach. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 12, 2005 Report Share Posted December 12, 2005 That's pretty much how I feel, but THEY scare you to death about the whole SIDS thing. My son, Ethan, sleeps excellent on his tummy and has good head control. I tried sidelying with the positioners, but the one we have has a memory foam for his head which is slightly elevated (1/2 inch). I looked in on him one night and his head had slid off the foam. > > Subject: repositioning > > After we started to notice my son's brachy/plagio at 4 mos. we slept him exclusively on his tummy. It worked for us when we were kids and spoke with other moms who did the same for their kids so I did it and for us it made a big difference. > > (mom to Jake, 11 mos, brachy) > > __________________________________________________ > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 12, 2005 Report Share Posted December 12, 2005 That's pretty much how I feel, but THEY scare you to death about the whole SIDS thing. My son, Ethan, sleeps excellent on his tummy and has good head control. I tried sidelying with the positioners, but the one we have has a memory foam for his head which is slightly elevated (1/2 inch). I looked in on him one night and his head had slid off the foam. > > Subject: repositioning > > After we started to notice my son's brachy/plagio at 4 mos. we slept him exclusively on his tummy. It worked for us when we were kids and spoke with other moms who did the same for their kids so I did it and for us it made a big difference. > > (mom to Jake, 11 mos, brachy) > > __________________________________________________ > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 12, 2005 Report Share Posted December 12, 2005 I have extended my son's tummy time for his naps, but am too scared to do it at night. I agree and am terrified about SIDS I just think that back sleeping is the reason for his plagio and it seems so clear that if we stopped completely maybe it would help. > > Although back sleeping is not without problems, it has significantly reduced > the incidence of SIDS. Please discuss alternate sleeping positions with > your health care provider before choosing to do this. Other ways to prevent > plagiocephaly include limiting time in baby swings and car seats, etc. In > addition, plenty of supervised tummy time for playing helps to keep pressure > of the back of his head. Although we did not pursue aggressive > repositioning, many on this site have done so and will hopefully give you > some safe suggestions. > > (mom to Georgia, DDH/plagio, Starband grad 11/05, and pediatric > nurse practitioner) > > repositioning > > > I have read alot on how the " back to sleep " campaign has increased the > incidence of plagio. I am wondering if I am the only one considering > letting my son sleep on his stomach. > > > > > > > > For more plagio info Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 12, 2005 Report Share Posted December 12, 2005 I have extended my son's tummy time for his naps, but am too scared to do it at night. I agree and am terrified about SIDS I just think that back sleeping is the reason for his plagio and it seems so clear that if we stopped completely maybe it would help. > > Although back sleeping is not without problems, it has significantly reduced > the incidence of SIDS. Please discuss alternate sleeping positions with > your health care provider before choosing to do this. Other ways to prevent > plagiocephaly include limiting time in baby swings and car seats, etc. In > addition, plenty of supervised tummy time for playing helps to keep pressure > of the back of his head. Although we did not pursue aggressive > repositioning, many on this site have done so and will hopefully give you > some safe suggestions. > > (mom to Georgia, DDH/plagio, Starband grad 11/05, and pediatric > nurse practitioner) > > repositioning > > > I have read alot on how the " back to sleep " campaign has increased the > incidence of plagio. I am wondering if I am the only one considering > letting my son sleep on his stomach. > > > > > > > > For more plagio info Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 12, 2005 Report Share Posted December 12, 2005 So did the tummy sleeping help his bracy/plagio completely or did Jake still need helmet and/or band? Trying to be as aggressive as possible to know for sure that we gave it our best shot. Don't get me wrong, I'm not opposed to the helmet but if we can would like to avoid. Kim (mom to Ethan, 11wks, plagio) > > Subject: repositioning > > After we started to notice my son's brachy/plagio at 4 mos. we slept him exclusively on his tummy. It worked for us when we were kids and spoke with other moms who did the same for their kids so I did it and for us it made a big difference. > > (mom to Jake, 11 mos, brachy) > > __________________________________________________ > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 12, 2005 Report Share Posted December 12, 2005 So did the tummy sleeping help his bracy/plagio completely or did Jake still need helmet and/or band? Trying to be as aggressive as possible to know for sure that we gave it our best shot. Don't get me wrong, I'm not opposed to the helmet but if we can would like to avoid. Kim (mom to Ethan, 11wks, plagio) > > Subject: repositioning > > After we started to notice my son's brachy/plagio at 4 mos. we slept him exclusively on his tummy. It worked for us when we were kids and spoke with other moms who did the same for their kids so I did it and for us it made a big difference. > > (mom to Jake, 11 mos, brachy) > > __________________________________________________ > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 12, 2005 Report Share Posted December 12, 2005 I know for me, the thought of SIDS was a very scary thing but once my babies were old enough to roll over on their own in the crib, I felt a little bit better. I myself would still follow the AAP guidelines though. Natasha > > I have read alot on how the " back to sleep " campaign has increased the > incidence of plagio. I am wondering if I am the only one considering > letting my son sleep on his stomach. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 12, 2005 Report Share Posted December 12, 2005 I know for me, the thought of SIDS was a very scary thing but once my babies were old enough to roll over on their own in the crib, I felt a little bit better. I myself would still follow the AAP guidelines though. Natasha > > I have read alot on how the " back to sleep " campaign has increased the > incidence of plagio. I am wondering if I am the only one considering > letting my son sleep on his stomach. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 12, 2005 Report Share Posted December 12, 2005 Hi, My son is 8 mos. and we've been repositioning since 6 mos. for very mild plagio and do not plan to get a band. I know the tempation to tummy sleep is great and many moms are comfortable doing it. We were too afraid to do it and even replaced the regular bumper pads with the new thin breatheable ones. I used to work at a children's hospital so I've actually seen SIDS babies and that really sticks with you! For me, all the plagio risks paled in comparison to the alternative. But, I think you can give it a try with some extra steps to be safe: talk to your doctor to see if you have any other risk factors (premie, smoking in the house, overheating, etc.) Maybe consider introducing pacifier if you haven't already since new research says this helps prevent SIDS. Or consider getting a video monitor or one of those movement monitors (sounds an alarm when baby stops moving for certain amount of time) to watch over him a little more closely when tummy sleeping. In the end it's up to you! At 6 mos. my son began to tummy sleep on his own. Kerry > > I have read alot on how the " back to sleep " campaign has increased the > incidence of plagio. I am wondering if I am the only one considering > letting my son sleep on his stomach. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 12, 2005 Report Share Posted December 12, 2005 Hi, My son is 8 mos. and we've been repositioning since 6 mos. for very mild plagio and do not plan to get a band. I know the tempation to tummy sleep is great and many moms are comfortable doing it. We were too afraid to do it and even replaced the regular bumper pads with the new thin breatheable ones. I used to work at a children's hospital so I've actually seen SIDS babies and that really sticks with you! For me, all the plagio risks paled in comparison to the alternative. But, I think you can give it a try with some extra steps to be safe: talk to your doctor to see if you have any other risk factors (premie, smoking in the house, overheating, etc.) Maybe consider introducing pacifier if you haven't already since new research says this helps prevent SIDS. Or consider getting a video monitor or one of those movement monitors (sounds an alarm when baby stops moving for certain amount of time) to watch over him a little more closely when tummy sleeping. In the end it's up to you! At 6 mos. my son began to tummy sleep on his own. Kerry > > I have read alot on how the " back to sleep " campaign has increased the > incidence of plagio. I am wondering if I am the only one considering > letting my son sleep on his stomach. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 12, 2005 Report Share Posted December 12, 2005 Yeah, can't wait til he is old enough to decide how HE wants to sleep. Not sure any pediatrician would endorse tummy sleeping. I am comfortable during the day when I can constantly monitor him, but not worth it at night. At least we are getting some good hours on his tummy during the day. > > > > I have read alot on how the " back to sleep " campaign has increased > the > > incidence of plagio. I am wondering if I am the only one considering > > letting my son sleep on his stomach. > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 12, 2005 Report Share Posted December 12, 2005 > > > > I have read alot on how the " back to sleep " campaign has increased > the > > incidence of plagio. I am wondering if I am the only one considering > > letting my son sleep on his stomach. > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 12, 2005 Report Share Posted December 12, 2005 Yeah, can't wait til he is old enough to decide how HE wants to sleep. Not sure any pediatrician would endorse tummy sleeping. I am comfortable during the day when I can constantly monitor him, but not worth it at night. At least we are getting some good hours on his tummy during the day. > > > > I have read alot on how the " back to sleep " campaign has increased > the > > incidence of plagio. I am wondering if I am the only one considering > > letting my son sleep on his stomach. > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 12, 2005 Report Share Posted December 12, 2005 > > > > I have read alot on how the " back to sleep " campaign has increased > the > > incidence of plagio. I am wondering if I am the only one considering > > letting my son sleep on his stomach. > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 12, 2005 Report Share Posted December 12, 2005 Hi. I know the temptation is great to let your child sleep on his stomach. The problem is that back sleeping is the safest way to sleep your child. How old is your son? When my oldest was a baby, his pediatrician told us that he could sleep on his tummy only when he could roll there and back by himself because then we couldn't really control it anyway. Side sleeping had been an alternative. Unfortunately, the AAP has released a statement saying that while they used to say Back sleeping was safest, that side sleeping was better than tummy sleeping, their opinion now is that side sleeping is bad bad bad, and it is just to be back sleeping. We repositioned my dd to get her head rounded out and some of the things you can do to keep him sleeping on his back is to rotate his position in the bed so that his head is at alternating ends of the crib. This way he has to look in different directions each time to see the room. You can also hang toys and baby mirrors on the side of the crib to which you want him to look. Definitely talk to your pediatrician, though. He/she may have some other suggestions for keeping your son on his back but off his flat spot. Good luck and please let us know if you have anymore questions. Becky , repo grad Pittsburgh, PA > > I have read alot on how the " back to sleep " campaign has increased the > incidence of plagio. I am wondering if I am the only one considering > letting my son sleep on his stomach. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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