Guest guest Posted January 18, 2003 Report Share Posted January 18, 2003 Really needed to hear that. Sometimes forget to feel validated for my real and true experiences. Re: Getting started > You have your hands full. I feel like a whiner now. You have my blessing and I hope to draw from your extensive experience. I'm not sure I'm up to such praises. Really. I'll take the blessings though. Lots of them. People ask how we manage and I tell we don't. Right now we are surviving. It's just the way it is. Something else too - never apologize for needing to vent. If it's hard for you then it is hard for you. We all share that here. No matter where you go in life you don't have to look too terribly far to see others that have more troubles than yourself or predicaments that are more complicated, but that still does not detract from your own situation and whether or not it is difficult for you. We can still be grateful for the blessings we have and be utterly frustrated with circumstances at the same time, so...vent away if need be! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 18, 2003 Report Share Posted January 18, 2003 Really needed to hear that. Sometimes forget to feel validated for my real and true experiences. Re: Getting started > You have your hands full. I feel like a whiner now. You have my blessing and I hope to draw from your extensive experience. I'm not sure I'm up to such praises. Really. I'll take the blessings though. Lots of them. People ask how we manage and I tell we don't. Right now we are surviving. It's just the way it is. Something else too - never apologize for needing to vent. If it's hard for you then it is hard for you. We all share that here. No matter where you go in life you don't have to look too terribly far to see others that have more troubles than yourself or predicaments that are more complicated, but that still does not detract from your own situation and whether or not it is difficult for you. We can still be grateful for the blessings we have and be utterly frustrated with circumstances at the same time, so...vent away if need be! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 18, 2003 Report Share Posted January 18, 2003 No need for apologies. I am divorced. Maybe, depending on your situation, the divorce could be your present. Depends on the home front atmosphere. It was a great gift I gave to myself. Think about it. Thanks for the welcome. Re: Getting started Hi Tara! I have five kids: Enrique, AS, 15; , 13, NT; Sophia, 8, NT; Xavier, AKA Putter, 6; Robbie, 3, NT. Everyone but has a birthday coming up in the next three weeks. And I have no money for presents until my divorce is final. Whoops! This is an introduction. Sorry. Salli Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 18, 2003 Report Share Posted January 18, 2003 No need for apologies. I am divorced. Maybe, depending on your situation, the divorce could be your present. Depends on the home front atmosphere. It was a great gift I gave to myself. Think about it. Thanks for the welcome. Re: Getting started Hi Tara! I have five kids: Enrique, AS, 15; , 13, NT; Sophia, 8, NT; Xavier, AKA Putter, 6; Robbie, 3, NT. Everyone but has a birthday coming up in the next three weeks. And I have no money for presents until my divorce is final. Whoops! This is an introduction. Sorry. Salli Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 18, 2003 Report Share Posted January 18, 2003 No need for apologies. I am divorced. Maybe, depending on your situation, the divorce could be your present. Depends on the home front atmosphere. It was a great gift I gave to myself. Think about it. Thanks for the welcome. Re: Getting started Hi Tara! I have five kids: Enrique, AS, 15; , 13, NT; Sophia, 8, NT; Xavier, AKA Putter, 6; Robbie, 3, NT. Everyone but has a birthday coming up in the next three weeks. And I have no money for presents until my divorce is final. Whoops! This is an introduction. Sorry. Salli Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 18, 2003 Report Share Posted January 18, 2003 > but I persisted in trying to be a good Catholic and go to counselling etc. < salli, i don't think anyone faults you for trying. " Something important to remember...we'll always be who we are. " - Mr. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 18, 2003 Report Share Posted January 18, 2003 > but I persisted in trying to be a good Catholic and go to counselling etc. < salli, i don't think anyone faults you for trying. " Something important to remember...we'll always be who we are. " - Mr. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 18, 2003 Report Share Posted January 18, 2003 > But it is so clear to me in retrospect how hopeless the counselling really was. And yet I hoped. Salli < well of course you did, we all do, and like you said, it's better than the other way " Something important to remember...we'll always be who we are. " - Mr. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 18, 2003 Report Share Posted January 18, 2003 > But it is so clear to me in retrospect how hopeless the counselling really was. And yet I hoped. Salli < well of course you did, we all do, and like you said, it's better than the other way " Something important to remember...we'll always be who we are. " - Mr. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 18, 2003 Report Share Posted January 18, 2003 > > But it is so clear to me in retrospect how hopeless the > counselling really was. > > And yet I hoped. > > Salli < > > > well of course you did, we all do, and like you said, it's better > than the other way Oh, yes. Like you said...we have to TRY. Salli, I think if you had not tried as hard as you did, you would forever question if you should really have gotten divorced, and feel guilt over " letting " your marriage end. It took strength and courage and moral backbone to do what you did the way you did it. If ANYONE could have saved that marriage it would have been you. But it takes two people to make a marriage, and only one to make a divorce. My dad told me that when he and my mom split up, and I think it's probably the best piece of advice he ever gave me. -Sara. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 18, 2003 Report Share Posted January 18, 2003 > > But it is so clear to me in retrospect how hopeless the > counselling really was. > > And yet I hoped. > > Salli < > > > well of course you did, we all do, and like you said, it's better > than the other way Oh, yes. Like you said...we have to TRY. Salli, I think if you had not tried as hard as you did, you would forever question if you should really have gotten divorced, and feel guilt over " letting " your marriage end. It took strength and courage and moral backbone to do what you did the way you did it. If ANYONE could have saved that marriage it would have been you. But it takes two people to make a marriage, and only one to make a divorce. My dad told me that when he and my mom split up, and I think it's probably the best piece of advice he ever gave me. -Sara. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 18, 2003 Report Share Posted January 18, 2003 > > But it is so clear to me in retrospect how hopeless the > counselling really was. > > And yet I hoped. > > Salli < > > > well of course you did, we all do, and like you said, it's better > than the other way Oh, yes. Like you said...we have to TRY. Salli, I think if you had not tried as hard as you did, you would forever question if you should really have gotten divorced, and feel guilt over " letting " your marriage end. It took strength and courage and moral backbone to do what you did the way you did it. If ANYONE could have saved that marriage it would have been you. But it takes two people to make a marriage, and only one to make a divorce. My dad told me that when he and my mom split up, and I think it's probably the best piece of advice he ever gave me. -Sara. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 18, 2003 Report Share Posted January 18, 2003 > Thanks, . Salli < anytime :-D " Something important to remember...we'll always be who we are. " - Mr. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 18, 2003 Report Share Posted January 18, 2003 > Thanks, . Salli < anytime :-D " Something important to remember...we'll always be who we are. " - Mr. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 18, 2003 Report Share Posted January 18, 2003 > Thanks, . Salli < anytime :-D " Something important to remember...we'll always be who we are. " - Mr. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 19, 2003 Report Share Posted January 19, 2003 Hiya Tara! Sissi Garvey Kids' Page http://www.isoa.net/~nitetrax/original.htm Boone's Art Page http://www.isoa.net/~nitetrax/bart.htm Dillon's Music Page http://www.geocities.com/flaremusic Please read and if you agree, sign petition: www.geocities.com/stopleland " If it doesn't spin, it's broke. " Boone Garvey (not a direct quote -- more like an attitude) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 19, 2003 Report Share Posted January 19, 2003 Hiya Tara! Sissi Garvey Kids' Page http://www.isoa.net/~nitetrax/original.htm Boone's Art Page http://www.isoa.net/~nitetrax/bart.htm Dillon's Music Page http://www.geocities.com/flaremusic Please read and if you agree, sign petition: www.geocities.com/stopleland " If it doesn't spin, it's broke. " Boone Garvey (not a direct quote -- more like an attitude) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 19, 2003 Report Share Posted January 19, 2003 Hiya Tara! Sissi Garvey Kids' Page http://www.isoa.net/~nitetrax/original.htm Boone's Art Page http://www.isoa.net/~nitetrax/bart.htm Dillon's Music Page http://www.geocities.com/flaremusic Please read and if you agree, sign petition: www.geocities.com/stopleland " If it doesn't spin, it's broke. " Boone Garvey (not a direct quote -- more like an attitude) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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