Re: You all were right - disappointed in doc

[Guest guest]

,

Maybe you are getting bulk on it for 3 months at a time. If I did that I

would have to go through my insurance and they would charge me double what

it costs me without putting my Armour or PTU through insurance. It really

makes me so angry that insurance companies will tell pharmacy's what they

are *allowed* to charge us when we have insurance and it is more than what

it is without.

I do recommend everyone on PTU or any hormone replacement to call another

pharmacy, ask what your script costs and that you have no insurance, then

compare it to what you are paying with insurance. You may be very surprised.

I know I was, then I got angry ;-)

Jody

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,

Maybe you are getting bulk on it for 3 months at a time. If I did that I

would have to go through my insurance and they would charge me double what

it costs me without putting my Armour or PTU through insurance. It really

makes me so angry that insurance companies will tell pharmacy's what they

are *allowed* to charge us when we have insurance and it is more than what

it is without.

I do recommend everyone on PTU or any hormone replacement to call another

pharmacy, ask what your script costs and that you have no insurance, then

compare it to what you are paying with insurance. You may be very surprised.

I know I was, then I got angry ;-)

Jody

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Someone help. I am on .0125 mg of synthyroid for hypothyroidism. For the

past week my hands have been hurting very bad. It's more like a tingling

achy feeling. The really hurt at night I can barely sleep. I have tried

everything medication, heating pad nothing seems to stop my hands from

feeling like this. Has anyone else experienced this.

Thanks

Sonya

Information Systems Administrator

Diamond Offshore Drilling, Inc.

281/647-4001 Office

281/647-4025 Fax

srharris@...

Re: You all were right - disappointed in doc

,

Maybe you are getting bulk on it for 3 months at a time. If I did that I

would have to go through my insurance and they would charge me double what

it costs me without putting my Armour or PTU through insurance. It really

makes me so angry that insurance companies will tell pharmacy's what they

are *allowed* to charge us when we have insurance and it is more than what

it is without.

I do recommend everyone on PTU or any hormone replacement to call another

pharmacy, ask what your script costs and that you have no insurance, then

compare it to what you are paying with insurance. You may be very surprised.

I know I was, then I got angry ;-)

Jody

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[Guest guest]

Someone help. I am on .0125 mg of synthyroid for hypothyroidism. For the

past week my hands have been hurting very bad. It's more like a tingling

achy feeling. The really hurt at night I can barely sleep. I have tried

everything medication, heating pad nothing seems to stop my hands from

feeling like this. Has anyone else experienced this.

Thanks

Sonya

Information Systems Administrator

Diamond Offshore Drilling, Inc.

281/647-4001 Office

281/647-4025 Fax

srharris@...

Re: You all were right - disappointed in doc

,

Maybe you are getting bulk on it for 3 months at a time. If I did that I

would have to go through my insurance and they would charge me double what

it costs me without putting my Armour or PTU through insurance. It really

makes me so angry that insurance companies will tell pharmacy's what they

are *allowed* to charge us when we have insurance and it is more than what

it is without.

I do recommend everyone on PTU or any hormone replacement to call another

pharmacy, ask what your script costs and that you have no insurance, then

compare it to what you are paying with insurance. You may be very surprised.

I know I was, then I got angry ;-)

Jody

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[Guest guest]

Someone help. I am on .0125 mg of synthyroid for hypothyroidism. For the

past week my hands have been hurting very bad. It's more like a tingling

achy feeling. The really hurt at night I can barely sleep. I have tried

everything medication, heating pad nothing seems to stop my hands from

feeling like this. Has anyone else experienced this.

Thanks

Sonya

Information Systems Administrator

Diamond Offshore Drilling, Inc.

281/647-4001 Office

281/647-4025 Fax

srharris@...

Re: You all were right - disappointed in doc

,

Maybe you are getting bulk on it for 3 months at a time. If I did that I

would have to go through my insurance and they would charge me double what

it costs me without putting my Armour or PTU through insurance. It really

makes me so angry that insurance companies will tell pharmacy's what they

are *allowed* to charge us when we have insurance and it is more than what

it is without.

I do recommend everyone on PTU or any hormone replacement to call another

pharmacy, ask what your script costs and that you have no insurance, then

compare it to what you are paying with insurance. You may be very surprised.

I know I was, then I got angry ;-)

Jody

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Hi Pam,

>>>after this last scare with the doc threatening me with switching to Tap

>>>because of the pain,<<<

When did the doctor do this with you? I must have missed a post somewhere

because I didn't see this.

Are you taking the cal/mg every day? This has made a huge improvement in my

pain. I would hate getting out of bed in the morning because I KNEW it was

going to hurt so much. Since I started with 600/1200 cal/mag plus 200

Vitamin D in December, my muscle pain has subsided so much it is

unbelievable. It doesn't bring tears to my eyes anymore when I get out of

bed in the morning. It has also helped with the muscles in my upper arms

and shoulders. If your not doing this, I think you may want to give it a

try. If you are doing it, and doing it daily, maybe increase the dose a

little bit?

Jody

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Hi Pam,

>>>after this last scare with the doc threatening me with switching to Tap

>>>because of the pain,<<<

When did the doctor do this with you? I must have missed a post somewhere

because I didn't see this.

Are you taking the cal/mg every day? This has made a huge improvement in my

pain. I would hate getting out of bed in the morning because I KNEW it was

going to hurt so much. Since I started with 600/1200 cal/mag plus 200

Vitamin D in December, my muscle pain has subsided so much it is

unbelievable. It doesn't bring tears to my eyes anymore when I get out of

bed in the morning. It has also helped with the muscles in my upper arms

and shoulders. If your not doing this, I think you may want to give it a

try. If you are doing it, and doing it daily, maybe increase the dose a

little bit?

Jody

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Hi Pam,

>>>after this last scare with the doc threatening me with switching to Tap

>>>because of the pain,<<<

When did the doctor do this with you? I must have missed a post somewhere

because I didn't see this.

Are you taking the cal/mg every day? This has made a huge improvement in my

pain. I would hate getting out of bed in the morning because I KNEW it was

going to hurt so much. Since I started with 600/1200 cal/mag plus 200

Vitamin D in December, my muscle pain has subsided so much it is

unbelievable. It doesn't bring tears to my eyes anymore when I get out of

bed in the morning. It has also helped with the muscles in my upper arms

and shoulders. If your not doing this, I think you may want to give it a

try. If you are doing it, and doing it daily, maybe increase the dose a

little bit?

Jody

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[Guest guest]

Hi Kate,

If your doctor is not ordering the Free T3 and Free T4, you should push for

those tests to be run, especially while on ATD's. They will give a more

accurate picture of what is going on in your body. The TSH will usually

stay suppressed and will tell the doctor you are still hyper but the reality

lies in the 2 free tests. This is what is going on in s case right

now...I still find it so hard to believe that her doctor totally ignored the

free tests!

If you have been on ATD's for a while now, you are probably having some hypO

symptoms, if your doctor is relying on the TSH he will not adjust your

dosage down and your hypo symptoms will continue to get worse.

As for the bungleweed, I can't answer that as I don't take it, but through

trial and error I have found it is best to leave at least an hour before

taking another medicine...giving some distance between the 2 interacting in

the stomach and on from there. This has helped me so much.

Take care,

Jody

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Hi Kate,

If your doctor is not ordering the Free T3 and Free T4, you should push for

those tests to be run, especially while on ATD's. They will give a more

accurate picture of what is going on in your body. The TSH will usually

stay suppressed and will tell the doctor you are still hyper but the reality

lies in the 2 free tests. This is what is going on in s case right

now...I still find it so hard to believe that her doctor totally ignored the

free tests!

If you have been on ATD's for a while now, you are probably having some hypO

symptoms, if your doctor is relying on the TSH he will not adjust your

dosage down and your hypo symptoms will continue to get worse.

As for the bungleweed, I can't answer that as I don't take it, but through

trial and error I have found it is best to leave at least an hour before

taking another medicine...giving some distance between the 2 interacting in

the stomach and on from there. This has helped me so much.

Take care,

Jody

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Hi Kate,

If your doctor is not ordering the Free T3 and Free T4, you should push for

those tests to be run, especially while on ATD's. They will give a more

accurate picture of what is going on in your body. The TSH will usually

stay suppressed and will tell the doctor you are still hyper but the reality

lies in the 2 free tests. This is what is going on in s case right

now...I still find it so hard to believe that her doctor totally ignored the

free tests!

If you have been on ATD's for a while now, you are probably having some hypO

symptoms, if your doctor is relying on the TSH he will not adjust your

dosage down and your hypo symptoms will continue to get worse.

As for the bungleweed, I can't answer that as I don't take it, but through

trial and error I have found it is best to leave at least an hour before

taking another medicine...giving some distance between the 2 interacting in

the stomach and on from there. This has helped me so much.

Take care,

Jody

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Hi Sonya,

I remember those days! Maybe lowering your synthroid and adding T3 to your

regimen will help you with this. I can't remember the last time I had the

pain in my hands, but it was before switching to my Armour Thyroid which has

all the T's in it.

Also, try the calcium/magnesium with vitamind D. I don't know if it will

help just for the hands but it has helped me tremendously with overall body

pain since I have been on it.

You may want to call your doctor and have him/her run the free T3 and free

T4 tests on you and see what's happenng in your body.

Take care,

Jody

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Hi Sonya,

I remember those days! Maybe lowering your synthroid and adding T3 to your

regimen will help you with this. I can't remember the last time I had the

pain in my hands, but it was before switching to my Armour Thyroid which has

all the T's in it.

Also, try the calcium/magnesium with vitamind D. I don't know if it will

help just for the hands but it has helped me tremendously with overall body

pain since I have been on it.

You may want to call your doctor and have him/her run the free T3 and free

T4 tests on you and see what's happenng in your body.

Take care,

Jody

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[Guest guest]

Hi Sonya,

I remember those days! Maybe lowering your synthroid and adding T3 to your

regimen will help you with this. I can't remember the last time I had the

pain in my hands, but it was before switching to my Armour Thyroid which has

all the T's in it.

Also, try the calcium/magnesium with vitamind D. I don't know if it will

help just for the hands but it has helped me tremendously with overall body

pain since I have been on it.

You may want to call your doctor and have him/her run the free T3 and free

T4 tests on you and see what's happenng in your body.

Take care,

Jody

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[Guest guest]

Thanks Jody, but the doctor is not ordering them because I think she is

assuming that my low TSH will trigger the lab to run the FT4. I had

confirmed this with the lab when I went to have blood sucked on Wednesday.

If I see that it is not being run I will ask the doctor to explicitly ask

for them and go to the lab again. I realize the importance of them, that is

one thing I have seen emphasized again and again on this board.

I have only been on ADT's for a couple of months now, with the dose lowered

last docs appointment. Could I have already gone a little hypo ? That seems

to be very quick.

Take care,

Katy.

RE: You all were right - disappointed in doc

Hi Kate,

If your doctor is not ordering the Free T3 and Free T4, you should push for

those tests to be run, especially while on ATD's. They will give a more

accurate picture of what is going on in your body. The TSH will usually

stay suppressed and will tell the doctor you are still hyper but the reality

lies in the 2 free tests. This is what is going on in s case right

now...I still find it so hard to believe that her doctor totally ignored the

free tests!

If you have been on ATD's for a while now, you are probably having some hypO

symptoms, if your doctor is relying on the TSH he will not adjust your

dosage down and your hypo symptoms will continue to get worse.

As for the bungleweed, I can't answer that as I don't take it, but through

trial and error I have found it is best to leave at least an hour before

taking another medicine...giving some distance between the 2 interacting in

the stomach and on from there. This has helped me so much.

Take care,

Jody

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[Guest guest]

Thanks Jody, but the doctor is not ordering them because I think she is

assuming that my low TSH will trigger the lab to run the FT4. I had

confirmed this with the lab when I went to have blood sucked on Wednesday.

If I see that it is not being run I will ask the doctor to explicitly ask

for them and go to the lab again. I realize the importance of them, that is

one thing I have seen emphasized again and again on this board.

I have only been on ADT's for a couple of months now, with the dose lowered

last docs appointment. Could I have already gone a little hypo ? That seems

to be very quick.

Take care,

Katy.

RE: You all were right - disappointed in doc

Hi Kate,

If your doctor is not ordering the Free T3 and Free T4, you should push for

those tests to be run, especially while on ATD's. They will give a more

accurate picture of what is going on in your body. The TSH will usually

stay suppressed and will tell the doctor you are still hyper but the reality

lies in the 2 free tests. This is what is going on in s case right

now...I still find it so hard to believe that her doctor totally ignored the

free tests!

If you have been on ATD's for a while now, you are probably having some hypO

symptoms, if your doctor is relying on the TSH he will not adjust your

dosage down and your hypo symptoms will continue to get worse.

As for the bungleweed, I can't answer that as I don't take it, but through

trial and error I have found it is best to leave at least an hour before

taking another medicine...giving some distance between the 2 interacting in

the stomach and on from there. This has helped me so much.

Take care,

Jody

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[Guest guest]

Thanks Jody, but the doctor is not ordering them because I think she is

assuming that my low TSH will trigger the lab to run the FT4. I had

confirmed this with the lab when I went to have blood sucked on Wednesday.

If I see that it is not being run I will ask the doctor to explicitly ask

for them and go to the lab again. I realize the importance of them, that is

one thing I have seen emphasized again and again on this board.

I have only been on ADT's for a couple of months now, with the dose lowered

last docs appointment. Could I have already gone a little hypo ? That seems

to be very quick.

Take care,

Katy.

RE: You all were right - disappointed in doc

Hi Kate,

If your doctor is not ordering the Free T3 and Free T4, you should push for

those tests to be run, especially while on ATD's. They will give a more

accurate picture of what is going on in your body. The TSH will usually

stay suppressed and will tell the doctor you are still hyper but the reality

lies in the 2 free tests. This is what is going on in s case right

now...I still find it so hard to believe that her doctor totally ignored the

free tests!

If you have been on ATD's for a while now, you are probably having some hypO

symptoms, if your doctor is relying on the TSH he will not adjust your

dosage down and your hypo symptoms will continue to get worse.

As for the bungleweed, I can't answer that as I don't take it, but through

trial and error I have found it is best to leave at least an hour before

taking another medicine...giving some distance between the 2 interacting in

the stomach and on from there. This has helped me so much.

Take care,

Jody

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[Guest guest]

Hi Kate,

I think it is really important for you to request your doctor to order those

2 tests on a regular basis Kate. They are the true indicators of what is

going on in your body...what the TSH is doing or not doing is no way to have

a FT4 run. Especially when on ATD's, the TSH seems to stay suppressed for

much longer, showing your doctor that you are hyper when your FT3 and FT4

will probably show you are hypO. Getting her to run these tests regularly

will save you so much aggravation in the long run...doing it this way, I am

afraid you will be moving more deeper into hypO and feeling worse and worse.

I know with my doctor, it took a long conversation to get her to use these 2

tests to judge my levels with (though she does still run a TSH - her

security blanket I think). Now she is seeing how important these tests are

and uses them on other patients now instead of depending on the TSH or Total

3 and 4.

As for being hypo again, yes it is very possible that is what is going on.

Your body may be reacting very well and very quickly to the ATDs so learning

your bodies signals is very important. Do you have the symptoms list from

the archives...it is an extended list put together on this board and sorted

and set up by Terry. Has many more symptoms than many doctors recognize.

Take care,

Jody

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Hi Kate,

I think it is really important for you to request your doctor to order those

2 tests on a regular basis Kate. They are the true indicators of what is

going on in your body...what the TSH is doing or not doing is no way to have

a FT4 run. Especially when on ATD's, the TSH seems to stay suppressed for

much longer, showing your doctor that you are hyper when your FT3 and FT4

will probably show you are hypO. Getting her to run these tests regularly

will save you so much aggravation in the long run...doing it this way, I am

afraid you will be moving more deeper into hypO and feeling worse and worse.

I know with my doctor, it took a long conversation to get her to use these 2

tests to judge my levels with (though she does still run a TSH - her

security blanket I think). Now she is seeing how important these tests are

and uses them on other patients now instead of depending on the TSH or Total

3 and 4.

As for being hypo again, yes it is very possible that is what is going on.

Your body may be reacting very well and very quickly to the ATDs so learning

your bodies signals is very important. Do you have the symptoms list from

the archives...it is an extended list put together on this board and sorted

and set up by Terry. Has many more symptoms than many doctors recognize.

Take care,

Jody

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I think its a shame that most docs only use TSH to diagnose. I guesss its a

lack of education. I just bought my mom a few books you guys recommended -

(she was recently diagnosed hypo) and my sister is hypo but the docs dont

think so because her TSH is normal. Crazy.

Amy

RE: You all were right - disappointed in doc

Hi Kate,

I think it is really important for you to request your doctor to order

those

2 tests on a regular basis Kate. They are the true indicators of what is

going on in your body...what the TSH is doing or not doing is no way to

have

a FT4 run. Especially when on ATD's, the TSH seems to stay suppressed for

much longer, showing your doctor that you are hyper when your FT3 and FT4

will probably show you are hypO. Getting her to run these tests regularly

will save you so much aggravation in the long run...doing it this way, I

am

afraid you will be moving more deeper into hypO and feeling worse and

worse.

I know with my doctor, it took a long conversation to get her to use these

2

tests to judge my levels with (though she does still run a TSH - her

security blanket I think). Now she is seeing how important these tests

are

and uses them on other patients now instead of depending on the TSH or

Total

3 and 4.

As for being hypo again, yes it is very possible that is what is going on.

Your body may be reacting very well and very quickly to the ATDs so

learning

your bodies signals is very important. Do you have the symptoms list from

the archives...it is an extended list put together on this board and

sorted

and set up by Terry. Has many more symptoms than many doctors recognize.

Take care,

Jody

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I think its a shame that most docs only use TSH to diagnose. I guesss its a

lack of education. I just bought my mom a few books you guys recommended -

(she was recently diagnosed hypo) and my sister is hypo but the docs dont

think so because her TSH is normal. Crazy.

Amy

RE: You all were right - disappointed in doc

Hi Kate,

I think it is really important for you to request your doctor to order

those

2 tests on a regular basis Kate. They are the true indicators of what is

going on in your body...what the TSH is doing or not doing is no way to

have

a FT4 run. Especially when on ATD's, the TSH seems to stay suppressed for

much longer, showing your doctor that you are hyper when your FT3 and FT4

will probably show you are hypO. Getting her to run these tests regularly

will save you so much aggravation in the long run...doing it this way, I

am

afraid you will be moving more deeper into hypO and feeling worse and

worse.

I know with my doctor, it took a long conversation to get her to use these

2

tests to judge my levels with (though she does still run a TSH - her

security blanket I think). Now she is seeing how important these tests

are

and uses them on other patients now instead of depending on the TSH or

Total

3 and 4.

As for being hypo again, yes it is very possible that is what is going on.

Your body may be reacting very well and very quickly to the ATDs so

learning

your bodies signals is very important. Do you have the symptoms list from

the archives...it is an extended list put together on this board and

sorted

and set up by Terry. Has many more symptoms than many doctors recognize.

Take care,

Jody

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[Guest guest]

I think its a shame that most docs only use TSH to diagnose. I guesss its a

lack of education. I just bought my mom a few books you guys recommended -

(she was recently diagnosed hypo) and my sister is hypo but the docs dont

think so because her TSH is normal. Crazy.

Amy

RE: You all were right - disappointed in doc

Hi Kate,

I think it is really important for you to request your doctor to order

those

2 tests on a regular basis Kate. They are the true indicators of what is

going on in your body...what the TSH is doing or not doing is no way to

have

a FT4 run. Especially when on ATD's, the TSH seems to stay suppressed for

much longer, showing your doctor that you are hyper when your FT3 and FT4

will probably show you are hypO. Getting her to run these tests regularly

will save you so much aggravation in the long run...doing it this way, I

am

afraid you will be moving more deeper into hypO and feeling worse and

worse.

I know with my doctor, it took a long conversation to get her to use these

2

tests to judge my levels with (though she does still run a TSH - her

security blanket I think). Now she is seeing how important these tests

are

and uses them on other patients now instead of depending on the TSH or

Total

3 and 4.

As for being hypo again, yes it is very possible that is what is going on.

Your body may be reacting very well and very quickly to the ATDs so

learning

your bodies signals is very important. Do you have the symptoms list from

the archives...it is an extended list put together on this board and

sorted

and set up by Terry. Has many more symptoms than many doctors recognize.

Take care,

Jody

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Hi Amy,

How are you doing and feeling? Still on bedrest?

Shomon has a good book on living with hypothyroidism, but I can't

remember the exact title. Elaine knows it I think.

I agree with you, I hate the TSH!

Hope all is well with you, take care,

Jody

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Hi Amy,

How are you doing and feeling? Still on bedrest?

Shomon has a good book on living with hypothyroidism, but I can't

remember the exact title. Elaine knows it I think.

I agree with you, I hate the TSH!

Hope all is well with you, take care,

Jody

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Hi Amy,

How are you doing and feeling? Still on bedrest?

Shomon has a good book on living with hypothyroidism, but I can't

remember the exact title. Elaine knows it I think.

I agree with you, I hate the TSH!

Hope all is well with you, take care,

Jody

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