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You will get information on fibromyalgia. Also support and caring. This is

a very good group who are very helpful. Your symptoms do sound like FMS. We

are happy to have you join our group and the list is quiet now but it will

pick up

Take care of yourself, because we care about you.

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You will get information on fibromyalgia. Also support and caring. This is

a very good group who are very helpful. Your symptoms do sound like FMS. We

are happy to have you join our group and the list is quiet now but it will

pick up

Take care of yourself, because we care about you.

Irene

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The new persons name is Jeanette. I think that we are all bothered by

migraines. This is one of the symptoms of fibromyalgia. It seems that the

list of things that can be fibromyalgia is getting longer. I think that

doctors are learning more about FMS and what the symptoms are.

I was luck in the fact that my doctor believed in such a thing as FMS. When

I changed doctors because of HMO!!!! changes; the new doctor does too. I

thought that I would have to try a number of the doctors that my HMO covers

but I found him on the first try. My rheumatologist and my psychologist work

together on pain medication and medication that I take for depression.

One of the medications that I take is Neurontin. My doctor said that this is

an all purpose drug with little side effects. I am very sensitive to

medications so that lets out a lot of things that I could take. I won't go

into my list of medications but I am blessed with the doctors that I have.

They are not afraid to prescribe medications like oxycontin. I can't take so

that one is out but a lot of doctors are afraid to prescribe this medications.

Take care,

Irene

> I wanted to say hi to the new person too.

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The new persons name is Jeanette. I think that we are all bothered by

migraines. This is one of the symptoms of fibromyalgia. It seems that the

list of things that can be fibromyalgia is getting longer. I think that

doctors are learning more about FMS and what the symptoms are.

I was luck in the fact that my doctor believed in such a thing as FMS. When

I changed doctors because of HMO!!!! changes; the new doctor does too. I

thought that I would have to try a number of the doctors that my HMO covers

but I found him on the first try. My rheumatologist and my psychologist work

together on pain medication and medication that I take for depression.

One of the medications that I take is Neurontin. My doctor said that this is

an all purpose drug with little side effects. I am very sensitive to

medications so that lets out a lot of things that I could take. I won't go

into my list of medications but I am blessed with the doctors that I have.

They are not afraid to prescribe medications like oxycontin. I can't take so

that one is out but a lot of doctors are afraid to prescribe this medications.

Take care,

Irene

> I wanted to say hi to the new person too.

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The new persons name is Jeanette. I think that we are all bothered by

migraines. This is one of the symptoms of fibromyalgia. It seems that the

list of things that can be fibromyalgia is getting longer. I think that

doctors are learning more about FMS and what the symptoms are.

I was luck in the fact that my doctor believed in such a thing as FMS. When

I changed doctors because of HMO!!!! changes; the new doctor does too. I

thought that I would have to try a number of the doctors that my HMO covers

but I found him on the first try. My rheumatologist and my psychologist work

together on pain medication and medication that I take for depression.

One of the medications that I take is Neurontin. My doctor said that this is

an all purpose drug with little side effects. I am very sensitive to

medications so that lets out a lot of things that I could take. I won't go

into my list of medications but I am blessed with the doctors that I have.

They are not afraid to prescribe medications like oxycontin. I can't take so

that one is out but a lot of doctors are afraid to prescribe this medications.

Take care,

Irene

> I wanted to say hi to the new person too.

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Welcome to the list.

Love

I'm new here.

> Hi! I'm new to this. I have not been officially diagnosed

> w/fibromyalgia yet. I went to the doctor last week for

> recurring/constant headaches, and after listening to me, poking &

> questioning, he cautiously suggested there was something more going

> on...like fibromyalgia. I had never put my 'achiness,' constant

> tiredness, headaches and lack of memory into one group before. My

> doctor is still running some tests to rule out other things, though.

>

> I do not consider myself to be severe at this time; just

> uncomfortably

> annoyed.....except for the headaches! Some relief from the headache

> would be wonderful!!!! I am usually tired, but not to the point I

> can't go to work. I 'ache' all over on some days (usually cold, wet

> weather), but some days I am fine.

>

> I joined this group hoping to gain some information on fibromyalgia.

>

> Thank you for welcoming me.

>

>

> SEND POST TO: fibromyalgia-cfs

>

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Welcome to the list.

Love

I'm new here.

> Hi! I'm new to this. I have not been officially diagnosed

> w/fibromyalgia yet. I went to the doctor last week for

> recurring/constant headaches, and after listening to me, poking &

> questioning, he cautiously suggested there was something more going

> on...like fibromyalgia. I had never put my 'achiness,' constant

> tiredness, headaches and lack of memory into one group before. My

> doctor is still running some tests to rule out other things, though.

>

> I do not consider myself to be severe at this time; just

> uncomfortably

> annoyed.....except for the headaches! Some relief from the headache

> would be wonderful!!!! I am usually tired, but not to the point I

> can't go to work. I 'ache' all over on some days (usually cold, wet

> weather), but some days I am fine.

>

> I joined this group hoping to gain some information on fibromyalgia.

>

> Thank you for welcoming me.

>

>

> SEND POST TO: fibromyalgia-cfs

>

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Welcome to the list.

Love

I'm new here.

> Hi! I'm new to this. I have not been officially diagnosed

> w/fibromyalgia yet. I went to the doctor last week for

> recurring/constant headaches, and after listening to me, poking &

> questioning, he cautiously suggested there was something more going

> on...like fibromyalgia. I had never put my 'achiness,' constant

> tiredness, headaches and lack of memory into one group before. My

> doctor is still running some tests to rule out other things, though.

>

> I do not consider myself to be severe at this time; just

> uncomfortably

> annoyed.....except for the headaches! Some relief from the headache

> would be wonderful!!!! I am usually tired, but not to the point I

> can't go to work. I 'ache' all over on some days (usually cold, wet

> weather), but some days I am fine.

>

> I joined this group hoping to gain some information on fibromyalgia.

>

> Thank you for welcoming me.

>

>

> SEND POST TO: fibromyalgia-cfs

>

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I wanted to say hi to the new person too. Welcome and you will find this

is a wonderful. The internet is full of info on fibro. I think we are

lucky it is not 10 years ago. Welcome and keep us posted on your

testing. The migranes can get pretty bad. I just had a 5 day all

migraine cluster it is not fun. Think you will enjoy the group. Deana

On Thu, 31 May 2001 18:49:45 -0000 " K/J B " writes:

> Hi! I'm new to this. I have not been officially diagnosed

> w/fibromyalgia yet. I went to the doctor last week for

> recurring/constant headaches, and after listening to me, poking &

> questioning, he cautiously suggested there was something more going

> on...like fibromyalgia. I had never put my 'achiness,' constant

> tiredness, headaches and lack of memory into one group before. My

> doctor is still running some tests to rule out other things, though.

>

> I do not consider myself to be severe at this time; just

> uncomfortably

> annoyed.....except for the headaches! Some relief from the headache

> would be wonderful!!!! I am usually tired, but not to the point I

> can't go to work. I 'ache' all over on some days (usually cold, wet

> weather), but some days I am fine.

>

> I joined this group hoping to gain some information on fibromyalgia.

>

> Thank you for welcoming me.

>

>

> SEND POST TO: fibromyalgia-cfs

>

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I wanted to say hi to the new person too. Welcome and you will find this

is a wonderful. The internet is full of info on fibro. I think we are

lucky it is not 10 years ago. Welcome and keep us posted on your

testing. The migranes can get pretty bad. I just had a 5 day all

migraine cluster it is not fun. Think you will enjoy the group. Deana

On Thu, 31 May 2001 18:49:45 -0000 " K/J B " writes:

> Hi! I'm new to this. I have not been officially diagnosed

> w/fibromyalgia yet. I went to the doctor last week for

> recurring/constant headaches, and after listening to me, poking &

> questioning, he cautiously suggested there was something more going

> on...like fibromyalgia. I had never put my 'achiness,' constant

> tiredness, headaches and lack of memory into one group before. My

> doctor is still running some tests to rule out other things, though.

>

> I do not consider myself to be severe at this time; just

> uncomfortably

> annoyed.....except for the headaches! Some relief from the headache

> would be wonderful!!!! I am usually tired, but not to the point I

> can't go to work. I 'ache' all over on some days (usually cold, wet

> weather), but some days I am fine.

>

> I joined this group hoping to gain some information on fibromyalgia.

>

> Thank you for welcoming me.

>

>

> SEND POST TO: fibromyalgia-cfs

>

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I wanted to say hi to the new person too. Welcome and you will find this

is a wonderful. The internet is full of info on fibro. I think we are

lucky it is not 10 years ago. Welcome and keep us posted on your

testing. The migranes can get pretty bad. I just had a 5 day all

migraine cluster it is not fun. Think you will enjoy the group. Deana

On Thu, 31 May 2001 18:49:45 -0000 " K/J B " writes:

> Hi! I'm new to this. I have not been officially diagnosed

> w/fibromyalgia yet. I went to the doctor last week for

> recurring/constant headaches, and after listening to me, poking &

> questioning, he cautiously suggested there was something more going

> on...like fibromyalgia. I had never put my 'achiness,' constant

> tiredness, headaches and lack of memory into one group before. My

> doctor is still running some tests to rule out other things, though.

>

> I do not consider myself to be severe at this time; just

> uncomfortably

> annoyed.....except for the headaches! Some relief from the headache

> would be wonderful!!!! I am usually tired, but not to the point I

> can't go to work. I 'ache' all over on some days (usually cold, wet

> weather), but some days I am fine.

>

> I joined this group hoping to gain some information on fibromyalgia.

>

> Thank you for welcoming me.

>

>

> SEND POST TO: fibromyalgia-cfs

>

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Irene

This is the frist I have heard that migraines are connected to fibro, I have

been told several other things cause them, i.e. my medications and the fact

that I also have chronic candida.

Love

Re: I'm new here.

> The new persons name is Jeanette. I think that we are all bothered by

> migraines. This is one of the symptoms of fibromyalgia. It seems that

the

> list of things that can be fibromyalgia is getting longer. I think that

> doctors are learning more about FMS and what the symptoms are.

>

> I was luck in the fact that my doctor believed in such a thing as FMS.

When

> I changed doctors because of HMO!!!! changes; the new doctor does too. I

> thought that I would have to try a number of the doctors that my HMO

covers

> but I found him on the first try. My rheumatologist and my psychologist

work

> together on pain medication and medication that I take for depression.

>

> One of the medications that I take is Neurontin. My doctor said that this

is

> an all purpose drug with little side effects. I am very sensitive to

> medications so that lets out a lot of things that I could take. I won't

go

> into my list of medications but I am blessed with the doctors that I have.

>

> They are not afraid to prescribe medications like oxycontin. I can't take

so

> that one is out but a lot of doctors are afraid to prescribe this

medications.

>

> Take care,

> Irene

>

> > I wanted to say hi to the new person too.

>

>

>

>

>

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Irene

This is the frist I have heard that migraines are connected to fibro, I have

been told several other things cause them, i.e. my medications and the fact

that I also have chronic candida.

Love

Re: I'm new here.

> The new persons name is Jeanette. I think that we are all bothered by

> migraines. This is one of the symptoms of fibromyalgia. It seems that

the

> list of things that can be fibromyalgia is getting longer. I think that

> doctors are learning more about FMS and what the symptoms are.

>

> I was luck in the fact that my doctor believed in such a thing as FMS.

When

> I changed doctors because of HMO!!!! changes; the new doctor does too. I

> thought that I would have to try a number of the doctors that my HMO

covers

> but I found him on the first try. My rheumatologist and my psychologist

work

> together on pain medication and medication that I take for depression.

>

> One of the medications that I take is Neurontin. My doctor said that this

is

> an all purpose drug with little side effects. I am very sensitive to

> medications so that lets out a lot of things that I could take. I won't

go

> into my list of medications but I am blessed with the doctors that I have.

>

> They are not afraid to prescribe medications like oxycontin. I can't take

so

> that one is out but a lot of doctors are afraid to prescribe this

medications.

>

> Take care,

> Irene

>

> > I wanted to say hi to the new person too.

>

>

>

>

>

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Irene

This is the frist I have heard that migraines are connected to fibro, I have

been told several other things cause them, i.e. my medications and the fact

that I also have chronic candida.

Love

Re: I'm new here.

> The new persons name is Jeanette. I think that we are all bothered by

> migraines. This is one of the symptoms of fibromyalgia. It seems that

the

> list of things that can be fibromyalgia is getting longer. I think that

> doctors are learning more about FMS and what the symptoms are.

>

> I was luck in the fact that my doctor believed in such a thing as FMS.

When

> I changed doctors because of HMO!!!! changes; the new doctor does too. I

> thought that I would have to try a number of the doctors that my HMO

covers

> but I found him on the first try. My rheumatologist and my psychologist

work

> together on pain medication and medication that I take for depression.

>

> One of the medications that I take is Neurontin. My doctor said that this

is

> an all purpose drug with little side effects. I am very sensitive to

> medications so that lets out a lot of things that I could take. I won't

go

> into my list of medications but I am blessed with the doctors that I have.

>

> They are not afraid to prescribe medications like oxycontin. I can't take

so

> that one is out but a lot of doctors are afraid to prescribe this

medications.

>

> Take care,

> Irene

>

> > I wanted to say hi to the new person too.

>

>

>

>

>

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Deana

I feel for you with a 5 day migraine cluster... I've got another one headed

my way.

Hence I've been rather quiet.....

Love

A

Re: I'm new here.

> I wanted to say hi to the new person too. Welcome and you will find this

> is a wonderful. The internet is full of info on fibro. I think we are

> lucky it is not 10 years ago. Welcome and keep us posted on your

> testing. The migranes can get pretty bad. I just had a 5 day all

> migraine cluster it is not fun. Think you will enjoy the group. Deana

>

> On Thu, 31 May 2001 18:49:45 -0000 " K/J B " writes:

> > Hi! I'm new to this. I have not been officially diagnosed

> > w/fibromyalgia yet. I went to the doctor last week for

> > recurring/constant headaches, and after listening to me, poking &

> > questioning, he cautiously suggested there was something more going

> > on...like fibromyalgia. I had never put my 'achiness,' constant

> > tiredness, headaches and lack of memory into one group before. My

> > doctor is still running some tests to rule out other things, though.

> >

> > I do not consider myself to be severe at this time; just

> > uncomfortably

> > annoyed.....except for the headaches! Some relief from the headache

> > would be wonderful!!!! I am usually tired, but not to the point I

> > can't go to work. I 'ache' all over on some days (usually cold, wet

> > weather), but some days I am fine.

> >

> > I joined this group hoping to gain some information on fibromyalgia.

> >

> > Thank you for welcoming me.

> >

> >

> > SEND POST TO: fibromyalgia-cfs

> >

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Deana

I feel for you with a 5 day migraine cluster... I've got another one headed

my way.

Hence I've been rather quiet.....

Love

A

Re: I'm new here.

> I wanted to say hi to the new person too. Welcome and you will find this

> is a wonderful. The internet is full of info on fibro. I think we are

> lucky it is not 10 years ago. Welcome and keep us posted on your

> testing. The migranes can get pretty bad. I just had a 5 day all

> migraine cluster it is not fun. Think you will enjoy the group. Deana

>

> On Thu, 31 May 2001 18:49:45 -0000 " K/J B " writes:

> > Hi! I'm new to this. I have not been officially diagnosed

> > w/fibromyalgia yet. I went to the doctor last week for

> > recurring/constant headaches, and after listening to me, poking &

> > questioning, he cautiously suggested there was something more going

> > on...like fibromyalgia. I had never put my 'achiness,' constant

> > tiredness, headaches and lack of memory into one group before. My

> > doctor is still running some tests to rule out other things, though.

> >

> > I do not consider myself to be severe at this time; just

> > uncomfortably

> > annoyed.....except for the headaches! Some relief from the headache

> > would be wonderful!!!! I am usually tired, but not to the point I

> > can't go to work. I 'ache' all over on some days (usually cold, wet

> > weather), but some days I am fine.

> >

> > I joined this group hoping to gain some information on fibromyalgia.

> >

> > Thank you for welcoming me.

> >

> >

> > SEND POST TO: fibromyalgia-cfs

> >

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Deana

I feel for you with a 5 day migraine cluster... I've got another one headed

my way.

Hence I've been rather quiet.....

Love

A

Re: I'm new here.

> I wanted to say hi to the new person too. Welcome and you will find this

> is a wonderful. The internet is full of info on fibro. I think we are

> lucky it is not 10 years ago. Welcome and keep us posted on your

> testing. The migranes can get pretty bad. I just had a 5 day all

> migraine cluster it is not fun. Think you will enjoy the group. Deana

>

> On Thu, 31 May 2001 18:49:45 -0000 " K/J B " writes:

> > Hi! I'm new to this. I have not been officially diagnosed

> > w/fibromyalgia yet. I went to the doctor last week for

> > recurring/constant headaches, and after listening to me, poking &

> > questioning, he cautiously suggested there was something more going

> > on...like fibromyalgia. I had never put my 'achiness,' constant

> > tiredness, headaches and lack of memory into one group before. My

> > doctor is still running some tests to rule out other things, though.

> >

> > I do not consider myself to be severe at this time; just

> > uncomfortably

> > annoyed.....except for the headaches! Some relief from the headache

> > would be wonderful!!!! I am usually tired, but not to the point I

> > can't go to work. I 'ache' all over on some days (usually cold, wet

> > weather), but some days I am fine.

> >

> > I joined this group hoping to gain some information on fibromyalgia.

> >

> > Thank you for welcoming me.

> >

> >

> > SEND POST TO: fibromyalgia-cfs

> >

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> It is one of the books that I have on fibro, so I guess that they know

what

> they are talking about.

>

> Take care,

> Irene

>

> >

>

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Hi and Irene,

My doctor once told me (long before I knew anything

about fibro) that our heads are covered by one 'large'

muscle, and that it tightens and causes migraines,

cutting off and constricting the blood flow. It makes

sense to me now that I know that every muscle in our

bodies is 'tense' with this illness.

Relaxation and meditation exercises are very

beneficial, but not if we don't believe they can help.

We have to take the 'mind body' connection into

consideration if we want relief. The only way to know

is to test it!

LOL

Sue

--- " D. Krein " wrote:

> Irene

> This is the frist I have heard that migraines are

> connected to fibro, I have

> been told several other things cause them, i.e. my

> medications and the fact

> that I also have chronic candida.

> Love

>

> Re: I'm new here.

>

>

> > The new persons name is Jeanette. I think that we

> are all bothered by

> > migraines. This is one of the symptoms of

> fibromyalgia. It seems that

> the

> > list of things that can be fibromyalgia is getting

> longer. I think that

> > doctors are learning more about FMS and what the

> symptoms are.

> >

> > I was luck in the fact that my doctor believed in

> such a thing as FMS.

> When

> > I changed doctors because of HMO!!!! changes; the

> new doctor does too. I

> > thought that I would have to try a number of the

> doctors that my HMO

> covers

> > but I found him on the first try. My

> rheumatologist and my psychologist

> work

> > together on pain medication and medication that I

> take for depression.

> >

> > One of the medications that I take is Neurontin.

> My doctor said that this

> is

> > an all purpose drug with little side effects. I

> am very sensitive to

> > medications so that lets out a lot of things that

> I could take. I won't

> go

> > into my list of medications but I am blessed with

> the doctors that I have.

> >

> > They are not afraid to prescribe medications like

> oxycontin. I can't take

> so

> > that one is out but a lot of doctors are afraid to

> prescribe this

> medications.

> >

> > Take care,

> > Irene

> >

> > > I wanted to say hi to the new person too.

> >

> >

> >

> >

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Hi and Irene,

My doctor once told me (long before I knew anything

about fibro) that our heads are covered by one 'large'

muscle, and that it tightens and causes migraines,

cutting off and constricting the blood flow. It makes

sense to me now that I know that every muscle in our

bodies is 'tense' with this illness.

Relaxation and meditation exercises are very

beneficial, but not if we don't believe they can help.

We have to take the 'mind body' connection into

consideration if we want relief. The only way to know

is to test it!

LOL

Sue

--- " D. Krein " wrote:

> Irene

> This is the frist I have heard that migraines are

> connected to fibro, I have

> been told several other things cause them, i.e. my

> medications and the fact

> that I also have chronic candida.

> Love

>

> Re: I'm new here.

>

>

> > The new persons name is Jeanette. I think that we

> are all bothered by

> > migraines. This is one of the symptoms of

> fibromyalgia. It seems that

> the

> > list of things that can be fibromyalgia is getting

> longer. I think that

> > doctors are learning more about FMS and what the

> symptoms are.

> >

> > I was luck in the fact that my doctor believed in

> such a thing as FMS.

> When

> > I changed doctors because of HMO!!!! changes; the

> new doctor does too. I

> > thought that I would have to try a number of the

> doctors that my HMO

> covers

> > but I found him on the first try. My

> rheumatologist and my psychologist

> work

> > together on pain medication and medication that I

> take for depression.

> >

> > One of the medications that I take is Neurontin.

> My doctor said that this

> is

> > an all purpose drug with little side effects. I

> am very sensitive to

> > medications so that lets out a lot of things that

> I could take. I won't

> go

> > into my list of medications but I am blessed with

> the doctors that I have.

> >

> > They are not afraid to prescribe medications like

> oxycontin. I can't take

> so

> > that one is out but a lot of doctors are afraid to

> prescribe this

> medications.

> >

> > Take care,

> > Irene

> >

> > > I wanted to say hi to the new person too.

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > [Non-text portions of this message have been

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Hi ,

Have I got tips for You? You'll be sorry you asked!!!

haha!

Well, that tape you have isn't doing you any good

lying

there, is it? There are several tapes on the market.

My library has quite a few, and I've brought them

home, copied them, and returned theirs. One really

good one is by Shirley Maclaine! You don't have

to sit like a yogi, on the floor with your legs

crossed. You can lie down on the floor if you want.

Get some really soft and soothing music and play it

while you lie there. One that really helps me,

because

it works with the muscles is:

I start out taking long s-l-o-w deep breathes and I

let them just as slowly. This helps to bring down the

heartrate. And it takes practice. Because, at first,

I found myself breathing harder and faster. I got

upset about it, and that the worst thing I could do!

Always talk to yourself gently and assure yourself

that

you are safe!!!! Okay, then, after I've done this for

a little while and tell myself I'm sinking into the

floor, and that I'm grounded to Mother Earth. As I

feel that I'm beginning to relax (and this gets better

the more time you give yourself to do this...each

day!)

Okay? Now, I focus my attention on my feet. Very

slowly (everything you do in meditation..do slowly!)

I curl my toes under as tight as I can and hold to the

count of 5 and " quickly " release them. Then I focus

on my feet and curl the foot as hard as I can and

count

to 5, and quickly release...then my calves, then my

knees, my thighs, my stomach...I then pull my arms

towards my middle (they are lying beside me!) and do

the same..next my fingers, then take my fingers

(curled) down to the palms of my hands and hold..then,

bend my arms up to where my hands are next to my

shoulders, and concentrate on tensing and realeasing

my elbows, then my chest, my neck, my jaw, my eyes

(I must look really disgusting when I do this with

my face..never thought of that before!)

The effect you will receive comes from the letting go

quickly. It may not feel that good at first, and then

again it might, but when you get good at it you'll

feel the benefits quickly.

Now, lie there (your eyes have been closed this entire

time!!!) pick out a place that you have been in a

nature setting that you felt at peace in and happy.

See, this place in your mind to it's fullest extent

and make it your own special place that you will come

back to time and time again. Tell yourself to 'feel'

the warmth of the sun on your face, your arms, yours

legs, ect. and the breeze softly flitting across your

skin, so that the sun doesn't get too hot! Picture

the trees swaying gently.....get the picture. Pay

attention to everything in your setting and make it

as REAL in your mind as possible. This is your

SAFE haven where there's no pain, no anger, no fear,

no sorrow! Spend a little time there, and then

try not to think at all. Just tell your mind that

it's time for a little break. You will find in the

beginning, that all these thoughts will come rushing

in. It's okay...just say, " Thank you, but I think

about that later! " Just kind of notice what thoughts

are coming through...just take note, but don't

participateee...understand? Do this for a little

while

and that take some more deep breathes and slowly move

your body and open your eyes....never jump up...take

your time.

You will more than likely find that this gives you

more energy, so it's really not a good idea to do it

before bedtime. The best time is in the morning...the

earlier the better...but there's no set time. The

important thing is that you make it a priority. You

are doing it for you, and you are worth it!

Now, you can think about what you were thinking!

What kind of thoughts were they? Were they negative?

Were they productive? Were they for your highest

good?

If not, come up with a positive thought to replace it

and as you go through your day think this thought

again and again, so that it becomes the habit and the

other thought has no meaning anymore. Example: I

need to be cleaning instead of lying here!

New thought:

All is well in my world, everything has it's time and

place!

My new one is " que sera sera whatever will be will

be " !

Well, let me know how this goes for you and what you

think of it, okay?

Love,

Sue

--- " D. Krein " wrote:

> Hi Sue

> Thanks so much for the information. I'm still no

> better. I seem to be

> learning new things every day from this list. Thank

> you guys. I have this

> meditation tape at home but i have never tried it...

> got any tips for me?

> If anyone would like to chat, you can find me on MSN

> Messenger

> (sarah_krein@...) or AIM - IBD. I also

> have an ICQ account!

> I am very worried about the Tel Aviv Bomb!

> Love

>

>

> Re: I'm new here.

> > >

> > >

> > > > The new persons name is Jeanette. I think

> that we

> > > are all bothered by

> > > > migraines. This is one of the symptoms of

> > > fibromyalgia. It seems that

> > > the

> > > > list of things that can be fibromyalgia is

> getting

> > > longer. I think that

> > > > doctors are learning more about FMS and what

> the

> > > symptoms are.

> > > >

> > > > I was luck in the fact that my doctor believed

> in

> > > such a thing as FMS.

> > > When

> > > > I changed doctors because of HMO!!!! changes;

> the

> > > new doctor does too. I

> > > > thought that I would have to try a number of

> the

> > > doctors that my HMO

> > > covers

> > > > but I found him on the first try. My

> > > rheumatologist and my psychologist

> > > work

> > > > together on pain medication and medication

> that I

> > > take for depression.

> > > >

> > > > One of the medications that I take is

> Neurontin.

> > > My doctor said that this

> > > is

> > > > an all purpose drug with little side effects.

> I

> > > am very sensitive to

> > > > medications so that lets out a lot of things

> that

> > > I could take. I won't

> > > go

> > > > into my list of medications but I am blessed

> with

> > > the doctors that I have.

> > > >

> > > > They are not afraid to prescribe medications

> like

> > > oxycontin. I can't take

> > > so

> > > > that one is out but a lot of doctors are

> afraid to

> > > prescribe this

> > > medications.

> > > >

> > > > Take care,

> > > > Irene

> > > >

> > > > > I wanted to say hi to the new person too.

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

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Hi ,

Have I got tips for You? You'll be sorry you asked!!!

haha!

Well, that tape you have isn't doing you any good

lying

there, is it? There are several tapes on the market.

My library has quite a few, and I've brought them

home, copied them, and returned theirs. One really

good one is by Shirley Maclaine! You don't have

to sit like a yogi, on the floor with your legs

crossed. You can lie down on the floor if you want.

Get some really soft and soothing music and play it

while you lie there. One that really helps me,

because

it works with the muscles is:

I start out taking long s-l-o-w deep breathes and I

let them just as slowly. This helps to bring down the

heartrate. And it takes practice. Because, at first,

I found myself breathing harder and faster. I got

upset about it, and that the worst thing I could do!

Always talk to yourself gently and assure yourself

that

you are safe!!!! Okay, then, after I've done this for

a little while and tell myself I'm sinking into the

floor, and that I'm grounded to Mother Earth. As I

feel that I'm beginning to relax (and this gets better

the more time you give yourself to do this...each

day!)

Okay? Now, I focus my attention on my feet. Very

slowly (everything you do in meditation..do slowly!)

I curl my toes under as tight as I can and hold to the

count of 5 and " quickly " release them. Then I focus

on my feet and curl the foot as hard as I can and

count

to 5, and quickly release...then my calves, then my

knees, my thighs, my stomach...I then pull my arms

towards my middle (they are lying beside me!) and do

the same..next my fingers, then take my fingers

(curled) down to the palms of my hands and hold..then,

bend my arms up to where my hands are next to my

shoulders, and concentrate on tensing and realeasing

my elbows, then my chest, my neck, my jaw, my eyes

(I must look really disgusting when I do this with

my face..never thought of that before!)

The effect you will receive comes from the letting go

quickly. It may not feel that good at first, and then

again it might, but when you get good at it you'll

feel the benefits quickly.

Now, lie there (your eyes have been closed this entire

time!!!) pick out a place that you have been in a

nature setting that you felt at peace in and happy.

See, this place in your mind to it's fullest extent

and make it your own special place that you will come

back to time and time again. Tell yourself to 'feel'

the warmth of the sun on your face, your arms, yours

legs, ect. and the breeze softly flitting across your

skin, so that the sun doesn't get too hot! Picture

the trees swaying gently.....get the picture. Pay

attention to everything in your setting and make it

as REAL in your mind as possible. This is your

SAFE haven where there's no pain, no anger, no fear,

no sorrow! Spend a little time there, and then

try not to think at all. Just tell your mind that

it's time for a little break. You will find in the

beginning, that all these thoughts will come rushing

in. It's okay...just say, " Thank you, but I think

about that later! " Just kind of notice what thoughts

are coming through...just take note, but don't

participateee...understand? Do this for a little

while

and that take some more deep breathes and slowly move

your body and open your eyes....never jump up...take

your time.

You will more than likely find that this gives you

more energy, so it's really not a good idea to do it

before bedtime. The best time is in the morning...the

earlier the better...but there's no set time. The

important thing is that you make it a priority. You

are doing it for you, and you are worth it!

Now, you can think about what you were thinking!

What kind of thoughts were they? Were they negative?

Were they productive? Were they for your highest

good?

If not, come up with a positive thought to replace it

and as you go through your day think this thought

again and again, so that it becomes the habit and the

other thought has no meaning anymore. Example: I

need to be cleaning instead of lying here!

New thought:

All is well in my world, everything has it's time and

place!

My new one is " que sera sera whatever will be will

be " !

Well, let me know how this goes for you and what you

think of it, okay?

Love,

Sue

--- " D. Krein " wrote:

> Hi Sue

> Thanks so much for the information. I'm still no

> better. I seem to be

> learning new things every day from this list. Thank

> you guys. I have this

> meditation tape at home but i have never tried it...

> got any tips for me?

> If anyone would like to chat, you can find me on MSN

> Messenger

> (sarah_krein@...) or AIM - IBD. I also

> have an ICQ account!

> I am very worried about the Tel Aviv Bomb!

> Love

>

>

> Re: I'm new here.

> > >

> > >

> > > > The new persons name is Jeanette. I think

> that we

> > > are all bothered by

> > > > migraines. This is one of the symptoms of

> > > fibromyalgia. It seems that

> > > the

> > > > list of things that can be fibromyalgia is

> getting

> > > longer. I think that

> > > > doctors are learning more about FMS and what

> the

> > > symptoms are.

> > > >

> > > > I was luck in the fact that my doctor believed

> in

> > > such a thing as FMS.

> > > When

> > > > I changed doctors because of HMO!!!! changes;

> the

> > > new doctor does too. I

> > > > thought that I would have to try a number of

> the

> > > doctors that my HMO

> > > covers

> > > > but I found him on the first try. My

> > > rheumatologist and my psychologist

> > > work

> > > > together on pain medication and medication

> that I

> > > take for depression.

> > > >

> > > > One of the medications that I take is

> Neurontin.

> > > My doctor said that this

> > > is

> > > > an all purpose drug with little side effects.

> I

> > > am very sensitive to

> > > > medications so that lets out a lot of things

> that

> > > I could take. I won't

> > > go

> > > > into my list of medications but I am blessed

> with

> > > the doctors that I have.

> > > >

> > > > They are not afraid to prescribe medications

> like

> > > oxycontin. I can't take

> > > so

> > > > that one is out but a lot of doctors are

> afraid to

> > > prescribe this

> > > medications.

> > > >

> > > > Take care,

> > > > Irene

> > > >

> > > > > I wanted to say hi to the new person too.

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been

> > > removed]

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > SEND POST TO: fibromyalgia-cfs

> > > > TO

> > >

> >

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