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>>>

>>>

>>No, Adderall. He was tried on a new one called

>>Stratera, but it caused some strange side effects for

>>him like getting an erection when he needed to urinate

>>and not being able to go until it went down.

>>

Strattera induced priapism might account for the increased rdw as most times

this happens the red cells have been made fragile by drugs or a cell memberane

problem

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kats3boys wrote:

>>>

>>>

>>No, Adderall. He was tried on a new one called

>>Stratera, but it caused some strange side effects for

>>him like getting an erection when he needed to urinate

>>and not being able to go until it went down.

>>

Strattera induced priapism might account for the increased rdw as most times

this happens the red cells have been made fragile by drugs or a cell memberane

problem

Alison

blog: http://alisonashwell.blogspot.com/

http://www.alisonashwell.com/

http://www.childrensillustrators.com/alisonashwell

http://www.artwanted.com/alisonashwell

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--- kats3boys wrote:

> Just a heads up, Adderall only lasted for about 6

> months on the

> Canadian Market before it was pulled for health

> reasons..

>

For some reason, I'm not surprised at all. The

American powers that be are notorious for allowing

harmful meds on the market without enough testing,

especially for treatment of obesity. And it's all

powered by the need for money. That's the really bad

part.

Kathy >^,,^<

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--- kats3boys wrote:

> Just a heads up, Adderall only lasted for about 6

> months on the

> Canadian Market before it was pulled for health

> reasons..

>

For some reason, I'm not surprised at all. The

American powers that be are notorious for allowing

harmful meds on the market without enough testing,

especially for treatment of obesity. And it's all

powered by the need for money. That's the really bad

part.

Kathy >^,,^<

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--- Alison Ashwell wrote:

> Strattera induced priapism might account for the

> increased rdw as most times this happens the red

> cells have been made fragile by drugs or a cell

> memberane problem

>

> Alison

> blog: http://alisonashwell.blogspot.com/

> http://www.alisonashwell.com/

> http://www.childrensillustrators.com/alisonashwell

> http://www.artwanted.com/alisonashwell

>

He was only on the Strattera for 2 or 3 months and has

been on the Adderall (the generic) for at least 8

months now. He doesn't take it regularly though.

Usually just for work or if he needs to do something

that requires his concentration and focus. I'd really

like to see him on something else, but I don't know

enough about the meds to know what to suggest. The

Strattera sounded like an ideal because it's not

amphetamine based, but it also had a sedative effect

on him. *sigh*

Kathy >^,,^<

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--- Alison Ashwell wrote:

> Strattera induced priapism might account for the

> increased rdw as most times this happens the red

> cells have been made fragile by drugs or a cell

> memberane problem

>

> Alison

> blog: http://alisonashwell.blogspot.com/

> http://www.alisonashwell.com/

> http://www.childrensillustrators.com/alisonashwell

> http://www.artwanted.com/alisonashwell

>

He was only on the Strattera for 2 or 3 months and has

been on the Adderall (the generic) for at least 8

months now. He doesn't take it regularly though.

Usually just for work or if he needs to do something

that requires his concentration and focus. I'd really

like to see him on something else, but I don't know

enough about the meds to know what to suggest. The

Strattera sounded like an ideal because it's not

amphetamine based, but it also had a sedative effect

on him. *sigh*

Kathy >^,,^<

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--- Alison Ashwell wrote:

> Strattera induced priapism might account for the

> increased rdw as most times this happens the red

> cells have been made fragile by drugs or a cell

> memberane problem

>

> Alison

> blog: http://alisonashwell.blogspot.com/

> http://www.alisonashwell.com/

> http://www.childrensillustrators.com/alisonashwell

> http://www.artwanted.com/alisonashwell

>

He was only on the Strattera for 2 or 3 months and has

been on the Adderall (the generic) for at least 8

months now. He doesn't take it regularly though.

Usually just for work or if he needs to do something

that requires his concentration and focus. I'd really

like to see him on something else, but I don't know

enough about the meds to know what to suggest. The

Strattera sounded like an ideal because it's not

amphetamine based, but it also had a sedative effect

on him. *sigh*

Kathy >^,,^<

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First of all, your symptoms are not petty... just because you didnt' get as bad as others doesn't make how you feel any less important.... the fact that you can catch things and get them BEFORE you get "falling down wish someone would shoot me NOW" symptoms is actually a good thing!

Okay... your numbers...

Taking into consideration that you aren't feeling as well as you should, and your basal temp and pulse rate are still low, we'll say that the dose is too low.... If we look at the numbers and compare them with that magical/mystical set of numbers and rules that seem to fit the majority... here is what we get:

TSH at 2.298 is still too high... anything over 2.0 still means there is a problem... most folks on replacement feel best at 1.0 or less.... and most 'normal' healthy folks have a TSH of 1.25..... So for TSH... too high

Free T4.... your lab's range is .89 to 1.76. The mid range of that is: ((1.76 -.89)/2) + .89 = 1.325

Your's came in at 1.10.... so.. according to the 'rule' that Free T4 should be mid range, or slightly higher.... your's is too low.

Free T3... Here the 'ideal' is at the top end of it's range, or slightly higher.... Your's came in at 3.6 with a range of 2.3 to 4.2 Mid range for that would be 3.25... You're not much over the mid range... which is showing that your Free T3 is too low...

My thinking is that your dose is too low.... and you might want to see what you can do to tweak up your conversion a bit....

Right now you are on 1/2 grain (30 mg), upping it another 1/2 grain sounds like a good plan... . up to you if you want to do the whole grain in the morning or split the dose.... Some do great with a single dose, some do better with 2 or more.....

How are your afternoons? Do you tend to get run down/tired in the afternoon.... or are you pretty consistent through the day?

....all of this is IMHO, of course

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On Wed, 12 Oct 2005 18:52:01 -0000 "hsinthecountry" writes:

Greetings everyone!Just got my latest lab results. Here they are: T3, Free (2.3-4.2) pg/mL 3.6 TSH, High-Sensitivity (0.35-5.50) uIU/mL 2.298 T4, Free (0.89-1.76) ng/dL 1.10 any thoughts on tweaking my dose? I am currently on 30 mg of armour,taken in the morning. Been on that dose for about 2 months with nochange in symptoms. I'd like to try uping the dose to 60 mg (30 mg 2xa day or all in the am) to see if this helps.My original labs were TSH 4.971 doc started armour at my suggestion.I'd been reading to learn more about my hubby's hashis.So here I am two months later. Labs look better, in normal rangeaccording to the doc. But I'm still not me. After reading some ofyour posts I almost feel like I am being petty with my symptoms. Theyare so mild compared to many of you. Maybe I just caught it early.Anyway, my symptoms are fatigue, dry skin (especially on my lower legs- I could scratch until it bleeds), hair loss (I seem to beshedding!), lack of motivation/energy (enough to take care of myfamily - four kids and hubby - but never enough for things I'd like todo), and steady weight gain (gone up three sizes in about 18 months).My basal temp on days one to three of my cycle is 97.1, restingmorning pulse is 58-60. (before and while on armour)

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First of all, your symptoms are not petty... just because you didnt' get as bad as others doesn't make how you feel any less important.... the fact that you can catch things and get them BEFORE you get "falling down wish someone would shoot me NOW" symptoms is actually a good thing!

Okay... your numbers...

Taking into consideration that you aren't feeling as well as you should, and your basal temp and pulse rate are still low, we'll say that the dose is too low.... If we look at the numbers and compare them with that magical/mystical set of numbers and rules that seem to fit the majority... here is what we get:

TSH at 2.298 is still too high... anything over 2.0 still means there is a problem... most folks on replacement feel best at 1.0 or less.... and most 'normal' healthy folks have a TSH of 1.25..... So for TSH... too high

Free T4.... your lab's range is .89 to 1.76. The mid range of that is: ((1.76 -.89)/2) + .89 = 1.325

Your's came in at 1.10.... so.. according to the 'rule' that Free T4 should be mid range, or slightly higher.... your's is too low.

Free T3... Here the 'ideal' is at the top end of it's range, or slightly higher.... Your's came in at 3.6 with a range of 2.3 to 4.2 Mid range for that would be 3.25... You're not much over the mid range... which is showing that your Free T3 is too low...

My thinking is that your dose is too low.... and you might want to see what you can do to tweak up your conversion a bit....

Right now you are on 1/2 grain (30 mg), upping it another 1/2 grain sounds like a good plan... . up to you if you want to do the whole grain in the morning or split the dose.... Some do great with a single dose, some do better with 2 or more.....

How are your afternoons? Do you tend to get run down/tired in the afternoon.... or are you pretty consistent through the day?

....all of this is IMHO, of course

Topper ()

On Wed, 12 Oct 2005 18:52:01 -0000 "hsinthecountry" writes:

Greetings everyone!Just got my latest lab results. Here they are: T3, Free (2.3-4.2) pg/mL 3.6 TSH, High-Sensitivity (0.35-5.50) uIU/mL 2.298 T4, Free (0.89-1.76) ng/dL 1.10 any thoughts on tweaking my dose? I am currently on 30 mg of armour,taken in the morning. Been on that dose for about 2 months with nochange in symptoms. I'd like to try uping the dose to 60 mg (30 mg 2xa day or all in the am) to see if this helps.My original labs were TSH 4.971 doc started armour at my suggestion.I'd been reading to learn more about my hubby's hashis.So here I am two months later. Labs look better, in normal rangeaccording to the doc. But I'm still not me. After reading some ofyour posts I almost feel like I am being petty with my symptoms. Theyare so mild compared to many of you. Maybe I just caught it early.Anyway, my symptoms are fatigue, dry skin (especially on my lower legs- I could scratch until it bleeds), hair loss (I seem to beshedding!), lack of motivation/energy (enough to take care of myfamily - four kids and hubby - but never enough for things I'd like todo), and steady weight gain (gone up three sizes in about 18 months).My basal temp on days one to three of my cycle is 97.1, restingmorning pulse is 58-60. (before and while on armour)

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First of all, your symptoms are not petty... just because you didnt' get as bad as others doesn't make how you feel any less important.... the fact that you can catch things and get them BEFORE you get "falling down wish someone would shoot me NOW" symptoms is actually a good thing!

Okay... your numbers...

Taking into consideration that you aren't feeling as well as you should, and your basal temp and pulse rate are still low, we'll say that the dose is too low.... If we look at the numbers and compare them with that magical/mystical set of numbers and rules that seem to fit the majority... here is what we get:

TSH at 2.298 is still too high... anything over 2.0 still means there is a problem... most folks on replacement feel best at 1.0 or less.... and most 'normal' healthy folks have a TSH of 1.25..... So for TSH... too high

Free T4.... your lab's range is .89 to 1.76. The mid range of that is: ((1.76 -.89)/2) + .89 = 1.325

Your's came in at 1.10.... so.. according to the 'rule' that Free T4 should be mid range, or slightly higher.... your's is too low.

Free T3... Here the 'ideal' is at the top end of it's range, or slightly higher.... Your's came in at 3.6 with a range of 2.3 to 4.2 Mid range for that would be 3.25... You're not much over the mid range... which is showing that your Free T3 is too low...

My thinking is that your dose is too low.... and you might want to see what you can do to tweak up your conversion a bit....

Right now you are on 1/2 grain (30 mg), upping it another 1/2 grain sounds like a good plan... . up to you if you want to do the whole grain in the morning or split the dose.... Some do great with a single dose, some do better with 2 or more.....

How are your afternoons? Do you tend to get run down/tired in the afternoon.... or are you pretty consistent through the day?

....all of this is IMHO, of course

Topper ()

On Wed, 12 Oct 2005 18:52:01 -0000 "hsinthecountry" writes:

Greetings everyone!Just got my latest lab results. Here they are: T3, Free (2.3-4.2) pg/mL 3.6 TSH, High-Sensitivity (0.35-5.50) uIU/mL 2.298 T4, Free (0.89-1.76) ng/dL 1.10 any thoughts on tweaking my dose? I am currently on 30 mg of armour,taken in the morning. Been on that dose for about 2 months with nochange in symptoms. I'd like to try uping the dose to 60 mg (30 mg 2xa day or all in the am) to see if this helps.My original labs were TSH 4.971 doc started armour at my suggestion.I'd been reading to learn more about my hubby's hashis.So here I am two months later. Labs look better, in normal rangeaccording to the doc. But I'm still not me. After reading some ofyour posts I almost feel like I am being petty with my symptoms. Theyare so mild compared to many of you. Maybe I just caught it early.Anyway, my symptoms are fatigue, dry skin (especially on my lower legs- I could scratch until it bleeds), hair loss (I seem to beshedding!), lack of motivation/energy (enough to take care of myfamily - four kids and hubby - but never enough for things I'd like todo), and steady weight gain (gone up three sizes in about 18 months).My basal temp on days one to three of my cycle is 97.1, restingmorning pulse is 58-60. (before and while on armour)

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--- hsinthecountry wrote:

> Greetings everyone!

>

> Just got my latest lab results. Here they are:

> T3, Free (2.3-4.2) pg/mL 3.6

> TSH, High-Sensitivity (0.35-5.50) uIU/mL 2.298

>

> T4, Free (0.89-1.76) ng/dL 1.10

>

> any thoughts on tweaking my dose? I am currently on

> 30 mg of armour,

> taken in the morning. Been on that dose for about 2

> months with no

> change in symptoms. I'd like to try uping the dose

> to 60 mg (30 mg 2x

> a day or all in the am) to see if this helps.

>

You've made some progress, but yeah, I'd say it looks

like you could use a bit of an increase. Your frees

could be higher in their ranges and your TSH could

still drop some, even though the " new " range for TSH

is 0.3 to 3.0 and not what the lab is using.

Kathy >^,,^<

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--- hsinthecountry wrote:

> Greetings everyone!

>

> Just got my latest lab results. Here they are:

> T3, Free (2.3-4.2) pg/mL 3.6

> TSH, High-Sensitivity (0.35-5.50) uIU/mL 2.298

>

> T4, Free (0.89-1.76) ng/dL 1.10

>

> any thoughts on tweaking my dose? I am currently on

> 30 mg of armour,

> taken in the morning. Been on that dose for about 2

> months with no

> change in symptoms. I'd like to try uping the dose

> to 60 mg (30 mg 2x

> a day or all in the am) to see if this helps.

>

You've made some progress, but yeah, I'd say it looks

like you could use a bit of an increase. Your frees

could be higher in their ranges and your TSH could

still drop some, even though the " new " range for TSH

is 0.3 to 3.0 and not what the lab is using.

Kathy >^,,^<

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--- hsinthecountry wrote:

> Greetings everyone!

>

> Just got my latest lab results. Here they are:

> T3, Free (2.3-4.2) pg/mL 3.6

> TSH, High-Sensitivity (0.35-5.50) uIU/mL 2.298

>

> T4, Free (0.89-1.76) ng/dL 1.10

>

> any thoughts on tweaking my dose? I am currently on

> 30 mg of armour,

> taken in the morning. Been on that dose for about 2

> months with no

> change in symptoms. I'd like to try uping the dose

> to 60 mg (30 mg 2x

> a day or all in the am) to see if this helps.

>

You've made some progress, but yeah, I'd say it looks

like you could use a bit of an increase. Your frees

could be higher in their ranges and your TSH could

still drop some, even though the " new " range for TSH

is 0.3 to 3.0 and not what the lab is using.

Kathy >^,,^<

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Now? Aug

3.3 grain 1.5 grain

TSH .6 .8 (.3 - 3.0)

FT3 .59 (2.3 - 4.2)

FT4 .77 .62 (.58 - 1.64)

Everyone holding on to their keyboards???

I happen to agree with the doc, looking at the numbers.... I don't say that very often, btw.

Now for the questions:

How do you feel, Robin?

How long between your last dose and the blood draw?

Had you been on the 3.3 grain from August til now?

Some folks are really good converters. So they don't need to add a lot of extra T3. Allowing you to stay on the Armour to keep all the extra trace goodies, I like that idea.... adding the extra T4 to bring that up to a more comfy level.. I like that direction... but the bottom line is how you feel.....

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On Wed, 19 Oct 2005 23:26:56 -0000 "Robin" writes:

Hi Everyone-Here are my lates labs as follows: TSH .060 was .80 in Aug., FT3 5.9 range 2.3-4.2, FT4 .77 range .58-1.64 in Aug. .62. I am and was at 3.3 grains at the time of my latest labs and in Aug I was at 1.50 grains. My doc wants me to go back down to 3 grains of Armour and start taking the 25 mcg of Synthroid to get the T4 up and have labs done again in 8 weeks to see whats what. Is anyone here in the same situation with a low T4 and a high T3? Anyone taking a combo of Synthroid and Armour and how do you feel? Any comments are appreciated. Thanks,Robin V.

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Now? Aug

3.3 grain 1.5 grain

TSH .6 .8 (.3 - 3.0)

FT3 .59 (2.3 - 4.2)

FT4 .77 .62 (.58 - 1.64)

Everyone holding on to their keyboards???

I happen to agree with the doc, looking at the numbers.... I don't say that very often, btw.

Now for the questions:

How do you feel, Robin?

How long between your last dose and the blood draw?

Had you been on the 3.3 grain from August til now?

Some folks are really good converters. So they don't need to add a lot of extra T3. Allowing you to stay on the Armour to keep all the extra trace goodies, I like that idea.... adding the extra T4 to bring that up to a more comfy level.. I like that direction... but the bottom line is how you feel.....

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On Wed, 19 Oct 2005 23:26:56 -0000 "Robin" writes:

Hi Everyone-Here are my lates labs as follows: TSH .060 was .80 in Aug., FT3 5.9 range 2.3-4.2, FT4 .77 range .58-1.64 in Aug. .62. I am and was at 3.3 grains at the time of my latest labs and in Aug I was at 1.50 grains. My doc wants me to go back down to 3 grains of Armour and start taking the 25 mcg of Synthroid to get the T4 up and have labs done again in 8 weeks to see whats what. Is anyone here in the same situation with a low T4 and a high T3? Anyone taking a combo of Synthroid and Armour and how do you feel? Any comments are appreciated. Thanks,Robin V.

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Now? Aug

3.3 grain 1.5 grain

TSH .6 .8 (.3 - 3.0)

FT3 .59 (2.3 - 4.2)

FT4 .77 .62 (.58 - 1.64)

Everyone holding on to their keyboards???

I happen to agree with the doc, looking at the numbers.... I don't say that very often, btw.

Now for the questions:

How do you feel, Robin?

How long between your last dose and the blood draw?

Had you been on the 3.3 grain from August til now?

Some folks are really good converters. So they don't need to add a lot of extra T3. Allowing you to stay on the Armour to keep all the extra trace goodies, I like that idea.... adding the extra T4 to bring that up to a more comfy level.. I like that direction... but the bottom line is how you feel.....

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On Wed, 19 Oct 2005 23:26:56 -0000 "Robin" writes:

Hi Everyone-Here are my lates labs as follows: TSH .060 was .80 in Aug., FT3 5.9 range 2.3-4.2, FT4 .77 range .58-1.64 in Aug. .62. I am and was at 3.3 grains at the time of my latest labs and in Aug I was at 1.50 grains. My doc wants me to go back down to 3 grains of Armour and start taking the 25 mcg of Synthroid to get the T4 up and have labs done again in 8 weeks to see whats what. Is anyone here in the same situation with a low T4 and a high T3? Anyone taking a combo of Synthroid and Armour and how do you feel? Any comments are appreciated. Thanks,Robin V.

[Guest guest]

, thanks for responding. I have only been at 3.3 grains for 4

weeks. I did take my Armour in the morning of my labs (only FT4 &

FT3) were done at 3:30 in the afternoon. Would my results have been

badly skewed? I had to retake them that day or they would not have

been ready for my doc visit today. They should have been taken along

with my TSH and cholesterol last week but a nurse messed up and did

not check off on the lab sheet for the Frees. I took my Armour at

9:00 and I had the labs done at 3:30.

I feel pretty good except for still being tired. I still have low

temps 98.0, 97.6, 97.4 the last three days. I actually felt good for

three weeks on this dose raise from 3 to 3.3 until this week. Now

I'm feeling fatigued again and I get around 7 hours of sleep maybe I

need more.

Do you think the 25 mcg of Synthroid makes up the the 1/3 of Armour

I'll be dropping?

Thanks so much for your input. It is appreciated.

Robin V.

>

> Now? Aug

> 3.3 grain 1.5 grain

>

> TSH .6 .8 (.3 - 3.0)

> FT3 5.9 (2.3 - 4.2)

> FT4 .77 .62 (.58 - 1.64)

>

> Everyone holding on to their keyboards???

>

> I happen to agree with the doc, looking at the numbers.... I

don't say

> that very often, btw.

>

> Now for the questions:

>

> How do you feel, Robin?

> How long between your last dose and the blood draw?

> Had you been on the 3.3 grain from August til now?

>

> Some folks are really good converters. So they don't need to add a

lot of

> extra T3. Allowing you to stay on the Armour to keep all the extra

trace

> goodies, I like that idea.... adding the extra T4 to bring that up

to a

> more comfy level.. I like that direction... but the bottom line is

how

> you feel.....

>

> Topper ()

>

>

[Guest guest]

, thanks for responding. I have only been at 3.3 grains for 4

weeks. I did take my Armour in the morning of my labs (only FT4 &

FT3) were done at 3:30 in the afternoon. Would my results have been

badly skewed? I had to retake them that day or they would not have

been ready for my doc visit today. They should have been taken along

with my TSH and cholesterol last week but a nurse messed up and did

not check off on the lab sheet for the Frees. I took my Armour at

9:00 and I had the labs done at 3:30.

I feel pretty good except for still being tired. I still have low

temps 98.0, 97.6, 97.4 the last three days. I actually felt good for

three weeks on this dose raise from 3 to 3.3 until this week. Now

I'm feeling fatigued again and I get around 7 hours of sleep maybe I

need more.

Do you think the 25 mcg of Synthroid makes up the the 1/3 of Armour

I'll be dropping?

Thanks so much for your input. It is appreciated.

Robin V.

>

> Now? Aug

> 3.3 grain 1.5 grain

>

> TSH .6 .8 (.3 - 3.0)

> FT3 5.9 (2.3 - 4.2)

> FT4 .77 .62 (.58 - 1.64)

>

> Everyone holding on to their keyboards???

>

> I happen to agree with the doc, looking at the numbers.... I

don't say

> that very often, btw.

>

> Now for the questions:

>

> How do you feel, Robin?

> How long between your last dose and the blood draw?

> Had you been on the 3.3 grain from August til now?

>

> Some folks are really good converters. So they don't need to add a

lot of

> extra T3. Allowing you to stay on the Armour to keep all the extra

trace

> goodies, I like that idea.... adding the extra T4 to bring that up

to a

> more comfy level.. I like that direction... but the bottom line is

how

> you feel.....

>

> Topper ()

>

>

[Guest guest]

> > Now? Aug

> > 3.3 grain 1.5 grain

> >

> > TSH .6 .8 (.3 - 3.0)

> > FT3 5.9 (2.3 - 4.2)

> > FT4 .77 .62 (.58 - 1.64)

> >

> > Everyone holding on to their keyboards???

> >

> > I happen to agree with the doc, looking at the numbers.... I

> don't say

> > that very often, btw.

> >

Not sure what is happening, but these numbers do not look right to me..

Calculation time..1 grain equals 38 mcg of T4 and 9 of T3..

So currently you are taking 125.4 of T4 hormone and 29.7mcg of T3.

It will take 6 weeks for T4 to reach optimal dose in your body.

$weeks ago you were on 57mcg of T4 and now you have increased it to

125.4 mcg but it takes 6 weeks for T4 to show up optimal in the

bloodwork..

Your FT3 is high though.. are you taking your dose all at once or

spreading it out during the day?

Kats3boys

[Guest guest]

> > Now? Aug

> > 3.3 grain 1.5 grain

> >

> > TSH .6 .8 (.3 - 3.0)

> > FT3 5.9 (2.3 - 4.2)

> > FT4 .77 .62 (.58 - 1.64)

> >

> > Everyone holding on to their keyboards???

> >

> > I happen to agree with the doc, looking at the numbers.... I

> don't say

> > that very often, btw.

> >

Not sure what is happening, but these numbers do not look right to me..

Calculation time..1 grain equals 38 mcg of T4 and 9 of T3..

So currently you are taking 125.4 of T4 hormone and 29.7mcg of T3.

It will take 6 weeks for T4 to reach optimal dose in your body.

$weeks ago you were on 57mcg of T4 and now you have increased it to

125.4 mcg but it takes 6 weeks for T4 to show up optimal in the

bloodwork..

Your FT3 is high though.. are you taking your dose all at once or

spreading it out during the day?

Kats3boys

[Guest guest]

> > Now? Aug

> > 3.3 grain 1.5 grain

> >

> > TSH .6 .8 (.3 - 3.0)

> > FT3 5.9 (2.3 - 4.2)

> > FT4 .77 .62 (.58 - 1.64)

> >

> > Everyone holding on to their keyboards???

> >

> > I happen to agree with the doc, looking at the numbers.... I

> don't say

> > that very often, btw.

> >

Not sure what is happening, but these numbers do not look right to me..

Calculation time..1 grain equals 38 mcg of T4 and 9 of T3..

So currently you are taking 125.4 of T4 hormone and 29.7mcg of T3.

It will take 6 weeks for T4 to reach optimal dose in your body.

$weeks ago you were on 57mcg of T4 and now you have increased it to

125.4 mcg but it takes 6 weeks for T4 to show up optimal in the

bloodwork..

Your FT3 is high though.. are you taking your dose all at once or

spreading it out during the day?

Kats3boys

[Guest guest]

I took my morning Armour dose of 2.25 grains in the morning and had

my Frees done at 3:30 in the afternoon. The tests should have been

run last Wed (fasting lab) but a nurse did not mark them off on the

lab slip. When I found this out on Mon. I had already taken my

morning dose of Armour and the frees had to be done that day to be

done for yesterday's doc visit. Do you think the FT3 results is

skewed because I took my morning dose? By how much do you think? It

was 6 hours later that my labs were taken.

So, what you are saying is that my T4 wasn't fully built up on my

latest dose of 3.3 grains?

Now my doc wants me to go back down to 3 grains and take an added 25

mcg of Synthroid to get the T4 up.

Thanks for your input.

Robin

-- In The_Thyroid_Support_Group , " kats3boys "

<kats3boys@y...> wrote:

>

> > > Now Aug

> > > 3.3 grain 1.5 grain

> > >

> > > TSH .06 .8 (.3 - 3.0)

> > > FT3 5.9 (2.3 - 4.2)

> > > FT4 .77 .62 (.58-1.64)

> > >

> > > Everyone holding on to their keyboards???

> > >

> > > I happen to agree with the doc, looking at the numbers.... I

> > don't say

> > > that very often, btw.

> > >

> Not sure what is happening, but these numbers do not look right to

me..

> Calculation time..1 grain equals 38 mcg of T4 and 9 of T3..

>

> So currently you are taking 125.4 of T4 hormone and 29.7mcg of T3.

> It will take 6 weeks for T4 to reach optimal dose in your body.

> $weeks ago you were on 57mcg of T4 and now you have increased it to

> 125.4 mcg but it takes 6 weeks for T4 to show up optimal in the

> bloodwork..

> Your FT3 is high though.. are you taking your dose all at once or

> spreading it out during the day?

>

> Kats3boys

>

[Guest guest]

I took my morning Armour dose of 2.25 grains in the morning and had

my Frees done at 3:30 in the afternoon. The tests should have been

run last Wed (fasting lab) but a nurse did not mark them off on the

lab slip. When I found this out on Mon. I had already taken my

morning dose of Armour and the frees had to be done that day to be

done for yesterday's doc visit. Do you think the FT3 results is

skewed because I took my morning dose? By how much do you think? It

was 6 hours later that my labs were taken.

So, what you are saying is that my T4 wasn't fully built up on my

latest dose of 3.3 grains?

Now my doc wants me to go back down to 3 grains and take an added 25

mcg of Synthroid to get the T4 up.

Thanks for your input.

Robin

-- In The_Thyroid_Support_Group , " kats3boys "

<kats3boys@y...> wrote:

>

> > > Now Aug

> > > 3.3 grain 1.5 grain

> > >

> > > TSH .06 .8 (.3 - 3.0)

> > > FT3 5.9 (2.3 - 4.2)

> > > FT4 .77 .62 (.58-1.64)

> > >

> > > Everyone holding on to their keyboards???

> > >

> > > I happen to agree with the doc, looking at the numbers.... I

> > don't say

> > > that very often, btw.

> > >

> Not sure what is happening, but these numbers do not look right to

me..

> Calculation time..1 grain equals 38 mcg of T4 and 9 of T3..

>

> So currently you are taking 125.4 of T4 hormone and 29.7mcg of T3.

> It will take 6 weeks for T4 to reach optimal dose in your body.

> $weeks ago you were on 57mcg of T4 and now you have increased it to

> 125.4 mcg but it takes 6 weeks for T4 to show up optimal in the

> bloodwork..

> Your FT3 is high though.. are you taking your dose all at once or

> spreading it out during the day?

>

> Kats3boys

>

[Guest guest]

I took my morning Armour dose of 2.25 grains in the morning and had

my Frees done at 3:30 in the afternoon. The tests should have been

run last Wed (fasting lab) but a nurse did not mark them off on the

lab slip. When I found this out on Mon. I had already taken my

morning dose of Armour and the frees had to be done that day to be

done for yesterday's doc visit. Do you think the FT3 results is

skewed because I took my morning dose? By how much do you think? It

was 6 hours later that my labs were taken.

So, what you are saying is that my T4 wasn't fully built up on my

latest dose of 3.3 grains?

Now my doc wants me to go back down to 3 grains and take an added 25

mcg of Synthroid to get the T4 up.

Thanks for your input.

Robin

-- In The_Thyroid_Support_Group , " kats3boys "

<kats3boys@y...> wrote:

>

> > > Now Aug

> > > 3.3 grain 1.5 grain

> > >

> > > TSH .06 .8 (.3 - 3.0)

> > > FT3 5.9 (2.3 - 4.2)

> > > FT4 .77 .62 (.58-1.64)

> > >

> > > Everyone holding on to their keyboards???

> > >

> > > I happen to agree with the doc, looking at the numbers.... I

> > don't say

> > > that very often, btw.

> > >

> Not sure what is happening, but these numbers do not look right to

me..

> Calculation time..1 grain equals 38 mcg of T4 and 9 of T3..

>

> So currently you are taking 125.4 of T4 hormone and 29.7mcg of T3.

> It will take 6 weeks for T4 to reach optimal dose in your body.

> $weeks ago you were on 57mcg of T4 and now you have increased it to

> 125.4 mcg but it takes 6 weeks for T4 to show up optimal in the

> bloodwork..

> Your FT3 is high though.. are you taking your dose all at once or

> spreading it out during the day?

>

> Kats3boys

>

[Guest guest]

Hi Robin,

Have you had your B12 checked as a defiency [pernicious anemia] mimics the symptoms of hypo-t?

Dawntopper2@... wrote:

Now? Aug

3.3 grain 1.5 grain

TSH .6 .8 (.3 - 3.0)

FT3 .59 (2.3 - 4.2)

FT4 .77 .62 (.58 - 1.64)

Everyone holding on to their keyboards???

I happen to agree with the doc, looking at the numbers.... I don't say that very often, btw.

Now for the questions:

How do you feel, Robin?

How long between your last dose and the blood draw?

Had you been on the 3.3 grain from August til now?

Some folks are really good converters. So they don't need to add a lot of extra T3. Allowing you to stay on the Armour to keep all the extra trace goodies, I like that idea.... adding the extra T4 to bring that up to a more comfy level.. I like that direction... but the bottom line is how you feel.....

Topper ()

On Wed, 19 Oct 2005 23:26:56 -0000 "Robin" writes:

Hi Everyone-Here are my lates labs as follows: TSH .060 was .80 in Aug., FT3 5.9 range 2.3-4.2, FT4 .77 range .58-1.64 in Aug. .62. I am and was at 3.3 grains at the time of my latest labs and in Aug I was at 1.50 grains. My doc wants me to go back down to 3 grains of Armour and start taking the 25 mcg of Synthroid to get the T4 up and have labs done again in 8 weeks to see whats what. Is anyone here in the same situation with a low T4 and a high T3? Anyone taking a combo of Synthroid and Armour and how do you feel? Any comments are appreciated. Thanks,Robin V.

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