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October 20, 2005

Hi Robin,

Have you had your B12 checked as a defiency [pernicious anemia] mimics the symptoms of hypo-t?

Dawntopper2@... wrote:

Now? Aug

3.3 grain 1.5 grain

TSH .6 .8 (.3 - 3.0)

FT3 .59 (2.3 - 4.2)

FT4 .77 .62 (.58 - 1.64)

Everyone holding on to their keyboards???

I happen to agree with the doc, looking at the numbers.... I don't say that very often, btw.

Now for the questions:

How do you feel, Robin?

How long between your last dose and the blood draw?

Had you been on the 3.3 grain from August til now?

Some folks are really good converters. So they don't need to add a lot of extra T3. Allowing you to stay on the Armour to keep all the extra trace goodies, I like that idea.... adding the extra T4 to bring that up to a more comfy level.. I like that direction... but the bottom line is how you feel.....

Topper ()

On Wed, 19 Oct 2005 23:26:56 -0000 "Robin" writes:

Hi Everyone-Here are my lates labs as follows: TSH .060 was .80 in Aug., FT3 5.9 range 2.3-4.2, FT4 .77 range .58-1.64 in Aug. .62. I am and was at 3.3 grains at the time of my latest labs and in Aug I was at 1.50 grains. My doc wants me to go back down to 3 grains of Armour and start taking the 25 mcg of Synthroid to get the T4 up and have labs done again in 8 weeks to see whats what. Is anyone here in the same situation with a low T4 and a high T3? Anyone taking a combo of Synthroid and Armour and how do you feel? Any comments are appreciated. Thanks,Robin V.

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October 20, 2005

Hi Robin,

Have you had your B12 checked as a defiency [pernicious anemia] mimics the symptoms of hypo-t?

Dawntopper2@... wrote:

Now? Aug

3.3 grain 1.5 grain

TSH .6 .8 (.3 - 3.0)

FT3 .59 (2.3 - 4.2)

FT4 .77 .62 (.58 - 1.64)

Everyone holding on to their keyboards???

I happen to agree with the doc, looking at the numbers.... I don't say that very often, btw.

Now for the questions:

How do you feel, Robin?

How long between your last dose and the blood draw?

Had you been on the 3.3 grain from August til now?

Some folks are really good converters. So they don't need to add a lot of extra T3. Allowing you to stay on the Armour to keep all the extra trace goodies, I like that idea.... adding the extra T4 to bring that up to a more comfy level.. I like that direction... but the bottom line is how you feel.....

Topper ()

On Wed, 19 Oct 2005 23:26:56 -0000 "Robin" writes:

Hi Everyone-Here are my lates labs as follows: TSH .060 was .80 in Aug., FT3 5.9 range 2.3-4.2, FT4 .77 range .58-1.64 in Aug. .62. I am and was at 3.3 grains at the time of my latest labs and in Aug I was at 1.50 grains. My doc wants me to go back down to 3 grains of Armour and start taking the 25 mcg of Synthroid to get the T4 up and have labs done again in 8 weeks to see whats what. Is anyone here in the same situation with a low T4 and a high T3? Anyone taking a combo of Synthroid and Armour and how do you feel? Any comments are appreciated. Thanks,Robin V.

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October 20, 2005

Hi Dawn - No, I havent't had my B12 checked. I did mention it to my

doc as a possbility but really did not get much of a response. I am

taking extra B12 and B6 with my multi and alternate with a B-complex.

Does a B-12 test have to be done with blood or can it be done with

saliva?

Thanks for you input.

Robin V.

>

> Hi Robin,

> Have you had your B12 checked as a defiency [pernicious anemia]

mimics the symptoms of hypo-t?

> Dawn

>

>> Now? Aug

> 3.3 grain 1.5 grain

>

> TSH .06 .8 (.3 - 3.0)

> FT3 .59 (2.3 - 4.2)

> FT4 .77 .62 (.58 - 1.64)

>

October 20, 2005

Hi Dawn - No, I havent't had my B12 checked. I did mention it to my

doc as a possbility but really did not get much of a response. I am

taking extra B12 and B6 with my multi and alternate with a B-complex.

Does a B-12 test have to be done with blood or can it be done with

saliva?

Thanks for you input.

Robin V.

>

> Hi Robin,

> Have you had your B12 checked as a defiency [pernicious anemia]

mimics the symptoms of hypo-t?

> Dawn

>

>> Now? Aug

> 3.3 grain 1.5 grain

>

> TSH .06 .8 (.3 - 3.0)

> FT3 .59 (2.3 - 4.2)

> FT4 .77 .62 (.58 - 1.64)

>

October 20, 2005

Hi Dawn - No, I havent't had my B12 checked. I did mention it to my

doc as a possbility but really did not get much of a response. I am

taking extra B12 and B6 with my multi and alternate with a B-complex.

Does a B-12 test have to be done with blood or can it be done with

saliva?

Thanks for you input.

Robin V.

>

> Hi Robin,

> Have you had your B12 checked as a defiency [pernicious anemia]

mimics the symptoms of hypo-t?

> Dawn

>

>> Now? Aug

> 3.3 grain 1.5 grain

>

> TSH .06 .8 (.3 - 3.0)

> FT3 .59 (2.3 - 4.2)

> FT4 .77 .62 (.58 - 1.64)

>

October 20, 2005

Hi Robin

it is a blood test and they don't often check for it I was hypo for years and the girls saw that I was down on B12 before the doc. Then he had me on injections but now I take sublingual and find that is more reliable for me and taking in a multi may not be enough. Go on line and check out what there is on B12 very enlightening.

Dawn Robin wrote:

Hi Dawn - No, I havent't had my B12 checked. I did mention it to my doc as a possbility but really did not get much of a response. I am taking extra B12 and B6 with my multi and alternate with a B-complex.Does a B-12 test have to be done with blood or can it be done with saliva?Thanks for you input.Robin V.>> Hi Robin,> Have you had your B12 checked as a defiency [pernicious anemia] mimics the symptoms of hypo-t?> Dawn> >>

Now? Aug > 3.3 grain 1.5 grain> > TSH .06 .8 (.3 - 3.0)> FT3

..59 (2.3 - 4.2)> FT4 .77 .62 (.58 - 1.64)> >

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October 20, 2005

Hi Robin

it is a blood test and they don't often check for it I was hypo for years and the girls saw that I was down on B12 before the doc. Then he had me on injections but now I take sublingual and find that is more reliable for me and taking in a multi may not be enough. Go on line and check out what there is on B12 very enlightening.

Dawn Robin wrote:

Hi Dawn - No, I havent't had my B12 checked. I did mention it to my doc as a possbility but really did not get much of a response. I am taking extra B12 and B6 with my multi and alternate with a B-complex.Does a B-12 test have to be done with blood or can it be done with saliva?Thanks for you input.Robin V.>> Hi Robin,> Have you had your B12 checked as a defiency [pernicious anemia] mimics the symptoms of hypo-t?> Dawn> >>

Now? Aug > 3.3 grain 1.5 grain> > TSH .06 .8 (.3 - 3.0)> FT3

..59 (2.3 - 4.2)> FT4 .77 .62 (.58 - 1.64)> >

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October 20, 2005

Hi Robin

it is a blood test and they don't often check for it I was hypo for years and the girls saw that I was down on B12 before the doc. Then he had me on injections but now I take sublingual and find that is more reliable for me and taking in a multi may not be enough. Go on line and check out what there is on B12 very enlightening.

Dawn Robin wrote:

Hi Dawn - No, I havent't had my B12 checked. I did mention it to my doc as a possbility but really did not get much of a response. I am taking extra B12 and B6 with my multi and alternate with a B-complex.Does a B-12 test have to be done with blood or can it be done with saliva?Thanks for you input.Robin V.>> Hi Robin,> Have you had your B12 checked as a defiency [pernicious anemia] mimics the symptoms of hypo-t?> Dawn> >>

Now? Aug > 3.3 grain 1.5 grain> > TSH .06 .8 (.3 - 3.0)> FT3

..59 (2.3 - 4.2)> FT4 .77 .62 (.58 - 1.64)> >

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October 20, 2005

3 grains =114 mcg of T4..add the 25 mcg and you are at 139mcg of T4

This will also lower your T3 to 27mcg.

Compare this to the 125.4 mcg of T4 and 29.7 mcg of T3 and although

it will move the numbers I don't see it moving them that much.

I am more wondering with a T3 so high and having hypo symptoms if

something else is not going on.. Some people do great taking Armour

once or twice a day and others need to spread it out more during the

day..especially at the higher doses. What happens is your T3 gets

really high but because it has uch a short half life it drops really

low too..this is where the T4 comes into play as it allows your body

to convert to T3 as needed..

Can you list all meds, drugs, herbs etc. and dosing schedule that you

are on..include timing?

> >

> > > > Now Aug

> > > > 3.3 grain 1.5 grain

> > > >

> > > > TSH .06 .8 (.3 - 3.0)

> > > > FT3 5.9 (2.3 -

4.2)

> > > > FT4 .77 .62 (.58-1.64)

> > > >

> > > > Everyone holding on to their keyboards???

> > > >

> > > > I happen to agree with the doc, looking at the numbers....

I

> > > don't say

> > > > that very often, btw.

> > > >

> > Not sure what is happening, but these numbers do not look right

to

> me..

> > Calculation time..1 grain equals 38 mcg of T4 and 9 of T3..

>

> >

> > So currently you are taking 125.4 of T4 hormone and 29.7mcg of T3.

> > It will take 6 weeks for T4 to reach optimal dose in your body.

> > $weeks ago you were on 57mcg of T4 and now you have increased it

to

> > 125.4 mcg but it takes 6 weeks for T4 to show up optimal in the

> > bloodwork..

> > Your FT3 is high though.. are you taking your dose all at once or

> > spreading it out during the day?

> >

> > Kats3boys

> >

>

October 20, 2005