Guest guest Report post Posted August 6, 2000 In a message dated 8/1/00 3:11:50 PM Central Daylight Time, bondslaves@... writes: << swat him! ) Another thing you can do is pull their hair along the back of their neck whenever they do it so that they associate pain with biting you and they will stop. >> I have to say that I don't think this is the best recommendation for dealing with a baby who's learning not to bite. Hurting a child is never ok and it teaches them that if someone hurts you, you are entitled to hurt them back and I just don't live by that philosophy. Not only that, but for a sensitive baby it could ensue a nursing strike. For me, when Drake went through the phase of occasionally biting I would very firmly tell him " NO, NO bit mommy--biting hurts " and take him off for a second and then relatch him. I did have to do this several/many times in a row a few times and once even removed him from the breast totally and gave him a teething toy, telling him this was for chewing, " nursie " was not for chewing. It doesn't take them very long to figure it out if you do it consistently, lovingly, yet firmly.........good luck. Fawn sahm to Drake 8-18-98 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted August 6, 2000 In a message dated 8/1/00 8:38:11 PM Central Daylight Time, lam@... writes: << As for the choking, just watch her. If she is continuing to stuff things in then take it away and explain small bites. otherwise let her go to town. DS takes big bites and I just keep a glass of juice or bm near by to help wash it down if he needs. He will usually gag when he gets to much in the back of the throat. >> I just wanted to add to this that when a baby/toddler is choking it's important that you don't automatically try to stick your finger in their mouth to " get it " . It can push the food item down into their throat even farther. We all have a gag reflex and the choking is very alarming but just try to let him/her get it out on their own. Of course if it becomes aparent that they aren't able to do this, then you need to intervene with the heimlich maneuver. Just my .02 on the subject! I see way too many people automatically jump up and start ramming adult sized fingers into little mouths which actually interrupts the process and can make it worse! Fawn Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted August 6, 2000 In a message dated 8/1/00 8:38:11 PM Central Daylight Time, lam@... writes: << As for the choking, just watch her. If she is continuing to stuff things in then take it away and explain small bites. otherwise let her go to town. DS takes big bites and I just keep a glass of juice or bm near by to help wash it down if he needs. He will usually gag when he gets to much in the back of the throat. >> I just wanted to add to this that when a baby/toddler is choking it's important that you don't automatically try to stick your finger in their mouth to " get it " . It can push the food item down into their throat even farther. We all have a gag reflex and the choking is very alarming but just try to let him/her get it out on their own. Of course if it becomes aparent that they aren't able to do this, then you need to intervene with the heimlich maneuver. Just my .02 on the subject! I see way too many people automatically jump up and start ramming adult sized fingers into little mouths which actually interrupts the process and can make it worse! Fawn Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted August 6, 2000 In a message dated 8/1/00 8:38:11 PM Central Daylight Time, lam@... writes: << As for the choking, just watch her. If she is continuing to stuff things in then take it away and explain small bites. otherwise let her go to town. DS takes big bites and I just keep a glass of juice or bm near by to help wash it down if he needs. He will usually gag when he gets to much in the back of the throat. >> I just wanted to add to this that when a baby/toddler is choking it's important that you don't automatically try to stick your finger in their mouth to " get it " . It can push the food item down into their throat even farther. We all have a gag reflex and the choking is very alarming but just try to let him/her get it out on their own. Of course if it becomes aparent that they aren't able to do this, then you need to intervene with the heimlich maneuver. Just my .02 on the subject! I see way too many people automatically jump up and start ramming adult sized fingers into little mouths which actually interrupts the process and can make it worse! Fawn Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted August 6, 2000 In a message dated 8/6/00 8:20:38 AM Pacific Daylight Time, Fawnf12@... writes: << << swat him! ) Another thing you can do is pull their hair along the back of their neck whenever they do it so that they associate pain with biting you and they will stop. >> >> Was this a serious piece of advice? Children cannot understand that what they do causes someone else pain AND actually care until they are out of their egocentric stage developmentally. This does not happen anywhere near babyhood. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted August 6, 2000 In a message dated 8/6/00 8:20:38 AM Pacific Daylight Time, Fawnf12@... writes: << << swat him! ) Another thing you can do is pull their hair along the back of their neck whenever they do it so that they associate pain with biting you and they will stop. >> >> Was this a serious piece of advice? Children cannot understand that what they do causes someone else pain AND actually care until they are out of their egocentric stage developmentally. This does not happen anywhere near babyhood. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted August 6, 2000 In a message dated 8/6/00 8:20:38 AM Pacific Daylight Time, Fawnf12@... writes: << << swat him! ) Another thing you can do is pull their hair along the back of their neck whenever they do it so that they associate pain with biting you and they will stop. >> >> Was this a serious piece of advice? Children cannot understand that what they do causes someone else pain AND actually care until they are out of their egocentric stage developmentally. This does not happen anywhere near babyhood. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted August 6, 2000 In addition, if they can cough do nothing. They are breathing. It is a high squeak you worry about. Laurie Re: New << As for the choking, just watch her. If she is continuing to stuff things in then take it away and explain small bites. otherwise let her go to town. DS takes big bites and I just keep a glass of juice or bm near by to help wash it down if he needs. He will usually gag when he gets to much in the back of the throat. >>I just wanted to add to this that when a baby/toddler is choking it's important that you don't automatically try to stick your finger in their mouth to "get it". It can push the food item down into their throat even farther. We all have a gag reflex and the choking is very alarming but just try to let him/her get it out on their own. Of course if it becomes aparent that they aren't able to do this, then you need to intervene with the heimlich maneuver. Just my .02 on the subject! I see way too many people automatically jump up and start ramming adult sized fingers into little mouths which actually interrupts the process and can make it worse!FawnGive the Gift of Life Breastfeed!http://www.lactivist.com Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted August 6, 2000 A friend of mine was visiting and we were giving the girls little bits of pizza. Her daughter started to gag and I was pretty pleased at how I kept my cool (and I think helped my friend to keep hers a little) and let the baby manage to cough the pixxa bit out on her own and she was fine. You're right about letting the reflexes take over! Why don't I think of that when does it! WHen she gags my first thing to do is try to reach in there and get the food out!!! I'll have to keep my head the next time gags on something - last time it happened I thought about it afterwards and told myself I should probably let her work it out as long as she wasn't truly choking - just gagging. Thanks! --- Fawnf12@... wrote: > In a message dated 8/1/00 8:38:11 PM Central Daylight Time, > lam@... > writes: > > << As for the choking, just watch her. If she is continuing to stuff > things > in then take it away and explain small bites. otherwise let her go > to town. > DS takes big bites and I just keep a glass of juice or bm near by to > help > wash it down if he needs. He will usually gag when he gets to much > in the > back of the throat. > >> > I just wanted to add to this that when a baby/toddler is choking it's > > important that you don't automatically try to stick your finger in > their > mouth to " get it " . It can push the food item down into their throat > even > farther. We all have a gag reflex and the choking is very alarming > but just > try to let him/her get it out on their own. Of course if it becomes > aparent > that they aren't able to do this, then you need to intervene with the > > heimlich maneuver. Just my .02 on the subject! I see way too many > people > automatically jump up and start ramming adult sized fingers into > little > mouths which actually interrupts the process and can make it worse! > Fawn > ===== Soyster Owner, Soyster's Baby Boutique http://babyboutique.safeshopper.com __________________________________________________ Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted August 6, 2000 A friend of mine was visiting and we were giving the girls little bits of pizza. Her daughter started to gag and I was pretty pleased at how I kept my cool (and I think helped my friend to keep hers a little) and let the baby manage to cough the pixxa bit out on her own and she was fine. You're right about letting the reflexes take over! Why don't I think of that when does it! WHen she gags my first thing to do is try to reach in there and get the food out!!! I'll have to keep my head the next time gags on something - last time it happened I thought about it afterwards and told myself I should probably let her work it out as long as she wasn't truly choking - just gagging. Thanks! --- Fawnf12@... wrote: > In a message dated 8/1/00 8:38:11 PM Central Daylight Time, > lam@... > writes: > > << As for the choking, just watch her. If she is continuing to stuff > things > in then take it away and explain small bites. otherwise let her go > to town. > DS takes big bites and I just keep a glass of juice or bm near by to > help > wash it down if he needs. He will usually gag when he gets to much > in the > back of the throat. > >> > I just wanted to add to this that when a baby/toddler is choking it's > > important that you don't automatically try to stick your finger in > their > mouth to " get it " . It can push the food item down into their throat > even > farther. We all have a gag reflex and the choking is very alarming > but just > try to let him/her get it out on their own. Of course if it becomes > aparent > that they aren't able to do this, then you need to intervene with the > > heimlich maneuver. Just my .02 on the subject! I see way too many > people > automatically jump up and start ramming adult sized fingers into > little > mouths which actually interrupts the process and can make it worse! > Fawn > ===== Soyster Owner, Soyster's Baby Boutique http://babyboutique.safeshopper.com __________________________________________________ Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted August 6, 2000 A friend of mine was visiting and we were giving the girls little bits of pizza. Her daughter started to gag and I was pretty pleased at how I kept my cool (and I think helped my friend to keep hers a little) and let the baby manage to cough the pixxa bit out on her own and she was fine. You're right about letting the reflexes take over! Why don't I think of that when does it! WHen she gags my first thing to do is try to reach in there and get the food out!!! I'll have to keep my head the next time gags on something - last time it happened I thought about it afterwards and told myself I should probably let her work it out as long as she wasn't truly choking - just gagging. Thanks! --- Fawnf12@... wrote: > In a message dated 8/1/00 8:38:11 PM Central Daylight Time, > lam@... > writes: > > << As for the choking, just watch her. If she is continuing to stuff > things > in then take it away and explain small bites. otherwise let her go > to town. > DS takes big bites and I just keep a glass of juice or bm near by to > help > wash it down if he needs. He will usually gag when he gets to much > in the > back of the throat. > >> > I just wanted to add to this that when a baby/toddler is choking it's > > important that you don't automatically try to stick your finger in > their > mouth to " get it " . It can push the food item down into their throat > even > farther. We all have a gag reflex and the choking is very alarming > but just > try to let him/her get it out on their own. Of course if it becomes > aparent > that they aren't able to do this, then you need to intervene with the > > heimlich maneuver. Just my .02 on the subject! I see way too many > people > automatically jump up and start ramming adult sized fingers into > little > mouths which actually interrupts the process and can make it worse! > Fawn > ===== Soyster Owner, Soyster's Baby Boutique http://babyboutique.safeshopper.com __________________________________________________ Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted October 2, 2001 << Like, do you have any cats? >> R O F L Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted October 2, 2001 Welcome Cheryl, I feel that you would find many friends among this group that would be happy to share their experiences with you, and help you with your questions. To the best of my knowledge, there are no restrictions upon a person's profession in the rules of membership, and there are other health care professionals in our group. Having a chronic illness can be very lonely, and FRUSTRATING......you will see that word many times among our posts. That is why I have found this group to be a haven, a place to go to vent, laugh, cry, offer kind words, scream if you need to....whatever suits the mood. But better than that, the information shared here, the wealth of knowledge and personal experiences in dealing with Chronic Pancreatitis and it's many related diseases has been overwhelming. It has truly helped me personally in my efforts to deal with this disease to have this group to turn to. I would hope that you would find the same unity here that I have. Plus, we can always use some " inside advise " , if you're willing to share it! Our lives seem pretty centered between ourselves and our health care, so to speak, but there's a whole lot more to it, outside of that, that we discuss, too. Like, do you have any cats? Please feel welcome! Heidi in SC > HI > I am trying to find a group to discuss CP with, that does not judge > me for being a health care professional and defensive when the health > care profession is critisized.I am well aware of the pitfalls of > health care, Ihave been in it for eighteen years. I have seen a > decline in treatment and a major decline in pt. care. > > But I am also a person with a chronic illness that needs to talk. > I do not know what to expect from this disorder and at times ask why > me. > > If this acceptable to everyone please let me know. Becuase one group > I spoke with is not able to accept my defense of medicine. But keep > in mind that I know there are problems (I myself have encountered > them), but would like to help other sort through the problems and > maybe get the answers that other have concerns about. > > Thank you > Cheryl Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted October 2, 2001 Welcome Cheryl, I feel that you would find many friends among this group that would be happy to share their experiences with you, and help you with your questions. To the best of my knowledge, there are no restrictions upon a person's profession in the rules of membership, and there are other health care professionals in our group. Having a chronic illness can be very lonely, and FRUSTRATING......you will see that word many times among our posts. That is why I have found this group to be a haven, a place to go to vent, laugh, cry, offer kind words, scream if you need to....whatever suits the mood. But better than that, the information shared here, the wealth of knowledge and personal experiences in dealing with Chronic Pancreatitis and it's many related diseases has been overwhelming. It has truly helped me personally in my efforts to deal with this disease to have this group to turn to. I would hope that you would find the same unity here that I have. Plus, we can always use some " inside advise " , if you're willing to share it! Our lives seem pretty centered between ourselves and our health care, so to speak, but there's a whole lot more to it, outside of that, that we discuss, too. Like, do you have any cats? Please feel welcome! Heidi in SC > HI > I am trying to find a group to discuss CP with, that does not judge > me for being a health care professional and defensive when the health > care profession is critisized.I am well aware of the pitfalls of > health care, Ihave been in it for eighteen years. I have seen a > decline in treatment and a major decline in pt. care. > > But I am also a person with a chronic illness that needs to talk. > I do not know what to expect from this disorder and at times ask why > me. > > If this acceptable to everyone please let me know. Becuase one group > I spoke with is not able to accept my defense of medicine. But keep > in mind that I know there are problems (I myself have encountered > them), but would like to help other sort through the problems and > maybe get the answers that other have concerns about. > > Thank you > Cheryl Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted October 2, 2001 Heidi, Thank you and the other for the note. YES this very frustrating. I just heard from my DR. a little while ago, and they are not sure why I had such a bad episode a couple a weeks ago. Just have to wait for next one and take it from there. And no we do not have cats. We have have 3 very large dogs. My husband is allergic to cats. The dogs range from 10 yrs. to 10 months. Again thank you and everyone for their positve responses. Cheryl > > HI > > I am trying to find a group to discuss CP with, that does not judge > > me for being a health care professional and defensive when the > health > > care profession is critisized.I am well aware of the pitfalls of > > health care, Ihave been in it for eighteen years. I have seen a > > decline in treatment and a major decline in pt. care. > > > > But I am also a person with a chronic illness that needs to talk. > > I do not know what to expect from this disorder and at times ask > why > > me. > > > > If this acceptable to everyone please let me know. Becuase one > group > > I spoke with is not able to accept my defense of medicine. But keep > > in mind that I know there are problems (I myself have encountered > > them), but would like to help other sort through the problems and > > maybe get the answers that other have concerns about. > > > > Thank you > > Cheryl Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted October 2, 2001 Heidi, Thank you and the other for the note. YES this very frustrating. I just heard from my DR. a little while ago, and they are not sure why I had such a bad episode a couple a weeks ago. Just have to wait for next one and take it from there. And no we do not have cats. We have have 3 very large dogs. My husband is allergic to cats. The dogs range from 10 yrs. to 10 months. Again thank you and everyone for their positve responses. Cheryl > > HI > > I am trying to find a group to discuss CP with, that does not judge > > me for being a health care professional and defensive when the > health > > care profession is critisized.I am well aware of the pitfalls of > > health care, Ihave been in it for eighteen years. I have seen a > > decline in treatment and a major decline in pt. care. > > > > But I am also a person with a chronic illness that needs to talk. > > I do not know what to expect from this disorder and at times ask > why > > me. > > > > If this acceptable to everyone please let me know. Becuase one > group > > I spoke with is not able to accept my defense of medicine. But keep > > in mind that I know there are problems (I myself have encountered > > them), but would like to help other sort through the problems and > > maybe get the answers that other have concerns about. > > > > Thank you > > Cheryl Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted October 2, 2001 Dear Cheryl, Welcome to the list! You'll find plenty of " Medical field bashing " here, a virtual buttload, but I suppose, boiled down, it's because so many folks on this list feel so " burned " by a good deal of the medical community based on their amazing lack of understanding of this disease. I suppose in truth we've all had good experiences and we've all had bad experiences... As have you, as you've indicated. Hopefully in the end, the good will outweigh the bad for each of us. That said, I don't think ANYbody here would ever suggest that you don't defend the field which you obviously must love, in order to have been a part of it for so long! Perhaps you can teach us and help guide us in many respects... That would be great! With only minor exception, I think that you'll find most folks here very open and willing to learn, in fact probably more " eager " than willing, and that is one of the more pronounced factors that draws persons to this list it seems. Some of the other reasons that folks seem to be here are to experience acceptance, camaraderie, sympathy, empathy and support; to learn new techniques, information about medications, drugs, therapies, pain control and management, surgical techniques and opportunities, advances in understanding and study... just about every conceivable reason that could pertain to chronic illness, specifically pancreatitis, that one could imagine and that you probably already HAVE imagined, given your background! So welcome, Cheryl, I hope you will find this list helpful, and I look forward to learning from what you bring to the table. I think you will also find that most of the folks on this list are also quite helpful, so all you need to do is ask, and you'll find a very receptive crowd receiving your query. If it's okay, I'd like to start by asking a question of you - You mentioned that one group that you spoke with was " not able to accept my (your) defense of medicine. " Would you be willing to expound on that a little?? I think it's very interesting, and I'd love to know the how's and why's of a group of folks not being receptive to your background... I can't imagine how it could be anything but helpful... Please, please, fill me in! Thanks Cheryl, and welcome to the circle. I'm sorry for that which - in essence - brings you here, but I greatly look forward to learning from what you bring. Peace, Terry in KC << HI I am trying to find a group to discuss CP with, that does not judge me for being a health care professional and defensive when the health care profession is critisized.I am well aware of the pitfalls of health care, Ihave been in it for eighteen years. I have seen a decline in treatment and a major decline in pt. care. But I am also a person with a chronic illness that needs to talk. I do not know what to expect from this disorder and at times ask why me. If this acceptable to everyone please let me know. Becuase one group I spoke with is not able to accept my defense of medicine. But keep in mind that I know there are problems (I myself have encountered them), but would like to help other sort through the problems and maybe get the answers that other have concerns about. Thank you Cheryl >> Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted October 2, 2001 Dear Cheryl, Welcome to the list! You'll find plenty of " Medical field bashing " here, a virtual buttload, but I suppose, boiled down, it's because so many folks on this list feel so " burned " by a good deal of the medical community based on their amazing lack of understanding of this disease. I suppose in truth we've all had good experiences and we've all had bad experiences... As have you, as you've indicated. Hopefully in the end, the good will outweigh the bad for each of us. That said, I don't think ANYbody here would ever suggest that you don't defend the field which you obviously must love, in order to have been a part of it for so long! Perhaps you can teach us and help guide us in many respects... That would be great! With only minor exception, I think that you'll find most folks here very open and willing to learn, in fact probably more " eager " than willing, and that is one of the more pronounced factors that draws persons to this list it seems. Some of the other reasons that folks seem to be here are to experience acceptance, camaraderie, sympathy, empathy and support; to learn new techniques, information about medications, drugs, therapies, pain control and management, surgical techniques and opportunities, advances in understanding and study... just about every conceivable reason that could pertain to chronic illness, specifically pancreatitis, that one could imagine and that you probably already HAVE imagined, given your background! So welcome, Cheryl, I hope you will find this list helpful, and I look forward to learning from what you bring to the table. I think you will also find that most of the folks on this list are also quite helpful, so all you need to do is ask, and you'll find a very receptive crowd receiving your query. If it's okay, I'd like to start by asking a question of you - You mentioned that one group that you spoke with was " not able to accept my (your) defense of medicine. " Would you be willing to expound on that a little?? I think it's very interesting, and I'd love to know the how's and why's of a group of folks not being receptive to your background... I can't imagine how it could be anything but helpful... Please, please, fill me in! Thanks Cheryl, and welcome to the circle. I'm sorry for that which - in essence - brings you here, but I greatly look forward to learning from what you bring. Peace, Terry in KC << HI I am trying to find a group to discuss CP with, that does not judge me for being a health care professional and defensive when the health care profession is critisized.I am well aware of the pitfalls of health care, Ihave been in it for eighteen years. I have seen a decline in treatment and a major decline in pt. care. But I am also a person with a chronic illness that needs to talk. I do not know what to expect from this disorder and at times ask why me. If this acceptable to everyone please let me know. Becuase one group I spoke with is not able to accept my defense of medicine. But keep in mind that I know there are problems (I myself have encountered them), but would like to help other sort through the problems and maybe get the answers that other have concerns about. Thank you Cheryl >> Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted October 2, 2001 Dear Cheryl, Welcome to the list! You'll find plenty of " Medical field bashing " here, a virtual buttload, but I suppose, boiled down, it's because so many folks on this list feel so " burned " by a good deal of the medical community based on their amazing lack of understanding of this disease. I suppose in truth we've all had good experiences and we've all had bad experiences... As have you, as you've indicated. Hopefully in the end, the good will outweigh the bad for each of us. That said, I don't think ANYbody here would ever suggest that you don't defend the field which you obviously must love, in order to have been a part of it for so long! Perhaps you can teach us and help guide us in many respects... That would be great! With only minor exception, I think that you'll find most folks here very open and willing to learn, in fact probably more " eager " than willing, and that is one of the more pronounced factors that draws persons to this list it seems. Some of the other reasons that folks seem to be here are to experience acceptance, camaraderie, sympathy, empathy and support; to learn new techniques, information about medications, drugs, therapies, pain control and management, surgical techniques and opportunities, advances in understanding and study... just about every conceivable reason that could pertain to chronic illness, specifically pancreatitis, that one could imagine and that you probably already HAVE imagined, given your background! So welcome, Cheryl, I hope you will find this list helpful, and I look forward to learning from what you bring to the table. I think you will also find that most of the folks on this list are also quite helpful, so all you need to do is ask, and you'll find a very receptive crowd receiving your query. If it's okay, I'd like to start by asking a question of you - You mentioned that one group that you spoke with was " not able to accept my (your) defense of medicine. " Would you be willing to expound on that a little?? I think it's very interesting, and I'd love to know the how's and why's of a group of folks not being receptive to your background... I can't imagine how it could be anything but helpful... Please, please, fill me in! Thanks Cheryl, and welcome to the circle. I'm sorry for that which - in essence - brings you here, but I greatly look forward to learning from what you bring. Peace, Terry in KC << HI I am trying to find a group to discuss CP with, that does not judge me for being a health care professional and defensive when the health care profession is critisized.I am well aware of the pitfalls of health care, Ihave been in it for eighteen years. I have seen a decline in treatment and a major decline in pt. care. But I am also a person with a chronic illness that needs to talk. I do not know what to expect from this disorder and at times ask why me. If this acceptable to everyone please let me know. Becuase one group I spoke with is not able to accept my defense of medicine. But keep in mind that I know there are problems (I myself have encountered them), but would like to help other sort through the problems and maybe get the answers that other have concerns about. Thank you Cheryl >> Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted October 2, 2001 Cheryl, there are several people in this group who are medical professional (I myself work for a medical center). Just try not to be too offended when someone really vents about a problem dealing with some of the more obtuse and obstructive members of the medical profession. Part of the reason for this group is to allow a person to have somewhere they can vent about anything, medical professionals included. Most of us are aware that there are good doctors out there as well as bad. It's just a question of finding them. Kimber -- Kimber hominid2@... California State Chapter Representative Pancreatitis Association, International Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted October 2, 2001 Cheryl, there are several people in this group who are medical professional (I myself work for a medical center). Just try not to be too offended when someone really vents about a problem dealing with some of the more obtuse and obstructive members of the medical profession. Part of the reason for this group is to allow a person to have somewhere they can vent about anything, medical professionals included. Most of us are aware that there are good doctors out there as well as bad. It's just a question of finding them. Kimber -- Kimber hominid2@... California State Chapter Representative Pancreatitis Association, International Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted October 2, 2001 Cheryl, there are several people in this group who are medical professional (I myself work for a medical center). Just try not to be too offended when someone really vents about a problem dealing with some of the more obtuse and obstructive members of the medical profession. Part of the reason for this group is to allow a person to have somewhere they can vent about anything, medical professionals included. Most of us are aware that there are good doctors out there as well as bad. It's just a question of finding them. Kimber -- Kimber hominid2@... California State Chapter Representative Pancreatitis Association, International Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted October 2, 2001 --Kimber I agree totally. I just happened to be opinionated to a point. Normally I am pretty sedate on most subjects. But this was a case where JCAHO was being refered to as " laws " , and there was no way to get across that they were standards not laws. Although I do speak my mind,I am not offensive or rude. But in some cases it is just not worth making a fuss over some issues, and that is why I most of the time I keep quiet. I really am very easy to get along with. I do not become offended very easily.I just like to discuss the other side of issues, it helps me know what other people are thinking. THanks Cheryl - In pancreatitis@y..., Kimber <hominid2@c...> wrote: > Cheryl, > there are several people in this group who are medical professional (I > myself work for a medical center). Just try not to be too offended when > someone really vents about a problem dealing with some of the more > obtuse and obstructive members of the medical profession. Part of the > reason for this group is to allow a person to have somewhere they can > vent about anything, medical professionals included. Most of us are > aware that there are good doctors out there as well as bad. It's just a > question of finding them. > Kimber > > -- > Kimber > > hominid2@c... > > California State Chapter Representative > > Pancreatitis Association, International Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted October 2, 2001 --Kimber I agree totally. I just happened to be opinionated to a point. Normally I am pretty sedate on most subjects. But this was a case where JCAHO was being refered to as " laws " , and there was no way to get across that they were standards not laws. Although I do speak my mind,I am not offensive or rude. But in some cases it is just not worth making a fuss over some issues, and that is why I most of the time I keep quiet. I really am very easy to get along with. I do not become offended very easily.I just like to discuss the other side of issues, it helps me know what other people are thinking. THanks Cheryl - In pancreatitis@y..., Kimber <hominid2@c...> wrote: > Cheryl, > there are several people in this group who are medical professional (I > myself work for a medical center). Just try not to be too offended when > someone really vents about a problem dealing with some of the more > obtuse and obstructive members of the medical profession. Part of the > reason for this group is to allow a person to have somewhere they can > vent about anything, medical professionals included. Most of us are > aware that there are good doctors out there as well as bad. It's just a > question of finding them. > Kimber > > -- > Kimber > > hominid2@c... > > California State Chapter Representative > > Pancreatitis Association, International Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted October 2, 2001 --Kimber I agree totally. I just happened to be opinionated to a point. Normally I am pretty sedate on most subjects. But this was a case where JCAHO was being refered to as " laws " , and there was no way to get across that they were standards not laws. Although I do speak my mind,I am not offensive or rude. But in some cases it is just not worth making a fuss over some issues, and that is why I most of the time I keep quiet. I really am very easy to get along with. I do not become offended very easily.I just like to discuss the other side of issues, it helps me know what other people are thinking. THanks Cheryl - In pancreatitis@y..., Kimber <hominid2@c...> wrote: > Cheryl, > there are several people in this group who are medical professional (I > myself work for a medical center). Just try not to be too offended when > someone really vents about a problem dealing with some of the more > obtuse and obstructive members of the medical profession. Part of the > reason for this group is to allow a person to have somewhere they can > vent about anything, medical professionals included. Most of us are > aware that there are good doctors out there as well as bad. It's just a > question of finding them. > Kimber > > -- > Kimber > > hominid2@c... > > California State Chapter Representative > > Pancreatitis Association, International Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
