Re: Principle #1 - Reject the Diet Mentality

[Guest guest]

Sara,

I felt the same way when I first started Intuitive eating (all of 3 weeks ago!)

But so far my clothes fit the same, so it hasn't been a problem. The freedom of

not having the dread of weighing in, and not worrying about what to eat when we

eat out because now I can eat anything I want is wonderful. When tempted to

stuff myself, just reminding myself I can eat whatever is tempting me anytime I

want takes away the urge. I am learning to recognize when I am hungry and when I

am satisfied, so I feel in control and that is a wonderful feeling! The most

important and difficult thing I have learned so far is to not multitask when I

eat. No computer, book or whatever. It really makes paying attention to what my

body is feeling so much easier and I tend to eat less.

This is a learning process, but as long as we keep learning we'll succeed,

right?

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> > Throw out the diet books and magazine articles that offer you the false hope

of losing weight quickly, easily, and permanently. Get angry at the lies that

have led you to feel as if you were a failure every time a new diet stopped

working and you gained back all of the weight. If you allow even one hope to

linger that a new and better diet might be lurking around the corner, it will

prevent you from being free to rediscover Intuitive Eating.

> >

> > (quoted from Intuitive eating by Tribloe & Resch - St. 's Press)

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> > Please reply (to this post) with any and all things this brings up for you.

> >

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[Guest guest]

Sara,

I felt the same way when I first started Intuitive eating (all of 3 weeks ago!)

But so far my clothes fit the same, so it hasn't been a problem. The freedom of

not having the dread of weighing in, and not worrying about what to eat when we

eat out because now I can eat anything I want is wonderful. When tempted to

stuff myself, just reminding myself I can eat whatever is tempting me anytime I

want takes away the urge. I am learning to recognize when I am hungry and when I

am satisfied, so I feel in control and that is a wonderful feeling! The most

important and difficult thing I have learned so far is to not multitask when I

eat. No computer, book or whatever. It really makes paying attention to what my

body is feeling so much easier and I tend to eat less.

This is a learning process, but as long as we keep learning we'll succeed,

right?

> >

> > Throw out the diet books and magazine articles that offer you the false hope

of losing weight quickly, easily, and permanently. Get angry at the lies that

have led you to feel as if you were a failure every time a new diet stopped

working and you gained back all of the weight. If you allow even one hope to

linger that a new and better diet might be lurking around the corner, it will

prevent you from being free to rediscover Intuitive Eating.

> >

> > (quoted from Intuitive eating by Tribloe & Resch - St. 's Press)

> >

> > Please reply (to this post) with any and all things this brings up for you.

> >

>

[Guest guest]

Sara,

I felt the same way when I first started Intuitive eating (all of 3 weeks ago!)

But so far my clothes fit the same, so it hasn't been a problem. The freedom of

not having the dread of weighing in, and not worrying about what to eat when we

eat out because now I can eat anything I want is wonderful. When tempted to

stuff myself, just reminding myself I can eat whatever is tempting me anytime I

want takes away the urge. I am learning to recognize when I am hungry and when I

am satisfied, so I feel in control and that is a wonderful feeling! The most

important and difficult thing I have learned so far is to not multitask when I

eat. No computer, book or whatever. It really makes paying attention to what my

body is feeling so much easier and I tend to eat less.

This is a learning process, but as long as we keep learning we'll succeed,

right?

> >

> > Throw out the diet books and magazine articles that offer you the false hope

of losing weight quickly, easily, and permanently. Get angry at the lies that

have led you to feel as if you were a failure every time a new diet stopped

working and you gained back all of the weight. If you allow even one hope to

linger that a new and better diet might be lurking around the corner, it will

prevent you from being free to rediscover Intuitive Eating.

> >

> > (quoted from Intuitive eating by Tribloe & Resch - St. 's Press)

> >

> > Please reply (to this post) with any and all things this brings up for you.

> >

>

[Guest guest]

Thank you, Alia, for articulating what I want to say...what I feel...I am angry

at these same things, too....UGH!

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> > Throw out the diet books and magazine articles that offer you the false hope

of losing weight quickly, easily, and permanently. Get angry at the lies that

have led you to feel as if you were a failure every time a new diet stopped

working and you gained back all of the weight. If you allow even one hope to

linger that a new and better diet might be lurking around the corner, it will

prevent you from being free to rediscover Intuitive Eating.

>

[Guest guest]

Thank you, Alia, for articulating what I want to say...what I feel...I am angry

at these same things, too....UGH!

>

> > Throw out the diet books and magazine articles that offer you the false hope

of losing weight quickly, easily, and permanently. Get angry at the lies that

have led you to feel as if you were a failure every time a new diet stopped

working and you gained back all of the weight. If you allow even one hope to

linger that a new and better diet might be lurking around the corner, it will

prevent you from being free to rediscover Intuitive Eating.

>

[Guest guest]

Thank you, Alia, for articulating what I want to say...what I feel...I am angry

at these same things, too....UGH!

>

> > Throw out the diet books and magazine articles that offer you the false hope

of losing weight quickly, easily, and permanently. Get angry at the lies that

have led you to feel as if you were a failure every time a new diet stopped

working and you gained back all of the weight. If you allow even one hope to

linger that a new and better diet might be lurking around the corner, it will

prevent you from being free to rediscover Intuitive Eating.

>

[Guest guest]

I'm really, really, really struggling with the diet mentality. I do well with IE, then I get off track and think of past diets or go searching for a new diet. I do want to be free. I feel I can't do it alone and need one on one support. Anyone else feel this way? OR want this type of support?DebbieSubject: Principle #1 - Reject the Diet MentalityTo: IntuitiveEating_Support Date: Saturday, November 19, 2011, 1:09 PM

Throw out the diet books and magazine articles that offer you the false hope of losing weight quickly, easily, and permanently. Get angry at the lies that have led you to feel as if you were a failure every time a new diet stopped working and you gained back all of the weight. If you allow even one hope to linger that a new and better diet might be lurking around the corner, it will prevent you from being free to rediscover Intuitive Eating.

(quoted from Intuitive eating by Tribloe & Resch - St. 's Press)

Please reply (to this post) with any and all things this brings up for you.

[Guest guest]

Debbie, you can try a coach.  I am using Gillian at Healthier outcomes.  It really helps to have someone to talk to and guide you, not to tell you what to do though, that wouldn't be IE. I am sure there are others too but I am not aware of who they are.  I discovered there are none in my area, no groups, but working with her is working out good.  Sandy

 

I'm really, really, really struggling with the diet mentality.  I do well with IE, then I get off track and think of past diets or go searching for a new diet.  I do want to be free.  I feel I can't do it alone and need one on one support.  Anyone else feel this way?  OR want this type of support?

Debbie

Subject: Principle #1 - Reject the Diet MentalityTo: IntuitiveEating_Support

Date: Saturday, November 19, 2011, 1:09 PM

 

Throw out the diet books and magazine articles that offer you the false hope of losing weight quickly, easily, and permanently. Get angry at the lies that have led you to feel as if you were a failure every time a new diet stopped working and you gained back all of the weight. If you allow even one hope to linger that a new and better diet might be lurking around the corner, it will prevent you from being free to rediscover Intuitive Eating.

(quoted from Intuitive eating by Tribloe & Resch - St. 's Press)

Please reply (to this post) with any and all things this brings up for you.

[Guest guest]

Debbie, you can try a coach.  I am using Gillian at Healthier outcomes.  It really helps to have someone to talk to and guide you, not to tell you what to do though, that wouldn't be IE. I am sure there are others too but I am not aware of who they are.  I discovered there are none in my area, no groups, but working with her is working out good.  Sandy

 

I'm really, really, really struggling with the diet mentality.  I do well with IE, then I get off track and think of past diets or go searching for a new diet.  I do want to be free.  I feel I can't do it alone and need one on one support.  Anyone else feel this way?  OR want this type of support?

Debbie

Subject: Principle #1 - Reject the Diet MentalityTo: IntuitiveEating_Support

Date: Saturday, November 19, 2011, 1:09 PM

 

Throw out the diet books and magazine articles that offer you the false hope of losing weight quickly, easily, and permanently. Get angry at the lies that have led you to feel as if you were a failure every time a new diet stopped working and you gained back all of the weight. If you allow even one hope to linger that a new and better diet might be lurking around the corner, it will prevent you from being free to rediscover Intuitive Eating.

(quoted from Intuitive eating by Tribloe & Resch - St. 's Press)

Please reply (to this post) with any and all things this brings up for you.

[Guest guest]

Debbie, you can try a coach.  I am using Gillian at Healthier outcomes.  It really helps to have someone to talk to and guide you, not to tell you what to do though, that wouldn't be IE. I am sure there are others too but I am not aware of who they are.  I discovered there are none in my area, no groups, but working with her is working out good.  Sandy

 

I'm really, really, really struggling with the diet mentality.  I do well with IE, then I get off track and think of past diets or go searching for a new diet.  I do want to be free.  I feel I can't do it alone and need one on one support.  Anyone else feel this way?  OR want this type of support?

Debbie

Subject: Principle #1 - Reject the Diet MentalityTo: IntuitiveEating_Support

Date: Saturday, November 19, 2011, 1:09 PM

 

Throw out the diet books and magazine articles that offer you the false hope of losing weight quickly, easily, and permanently. Get angry at the lies that have led you to feel as if you were a failure every time a new diet stopped working and you gained back all of the weight. If you allow even one hope to linger that a new and better diet might be lurking around the corner, it will prevent you from being free to rediscover Intuitive Eating.

(quoted from Intuitive eating by Tribloe & Resch - St. 's Press)

Please reply (to this post) with any and all things this brings up for you.

[Guest guest]

Debbie,

I totally get needing one-on-one support (which is why I offer that) because

this is a whole new way of being with our body, being with food and being with

trust. We've spent a lifetime learning how not to trust and listen to our

bodies, and just as long learning that dieting is good and thin is everything.

So it's a process.

I offer a free weekly series on Intuitive Eating and would love to have you be

part of it. You can email me: daphne@... if you're

interested.

In pleasure.

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hope of losing weight quickly, easily, and permanently. Get angry at the lies

that have led you to feel as if you were a failure every time a new diet stopped

working and you gained back all of the weight. If you allow even one hope to

linger that a new and better diet might be lurking around the corner, it will

prevent you from being free to rediscover Intuitive Eating.

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Debbie,

I totally get needing one-on-one support (which is why I offer that) because

this is a whole new way of being with our body, being with food and being with

trust. We've spent a lifetime learning how not to trust and listen to our

bodies, and just as long learning that dieting is good and thin is everything.

So it's a process.

I offer a free weekly series on Intuitive Eating and would love to have you be

part of it. You can email me: daphne@... if you're

interested.

In pleasure.

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hope of losing weight quickly, easily, and permanently. Get angry at the lies

that have led you to feel as if you were a failure every time a new diet stopped

working and you gained back all of the weight. If you allow even one hope to

linger that a new and better diet might be lurking around the corner, it will

prevent you from being free to rediscover Intuitive Eating.

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Debbie,

I totally get needing one-on-one support (which is why I offer that) because

this is a whole new way of being with our body, being with food and being with

trust. We've spent a lifetime learning how not to trust and listen to our

bodies, and just as long learning that dieting is good and thin is everything.

So it's a process.

I offer a free weekly series on Intuitive Eating and would love to have you be

part of it. You can email me: daphne@... if you're

interested.

In pleasure.

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hope of losing weight quickly, easily, and permanently. Get angry at the lies

that have led you to feel as if you were a failure every time a new diet stopped

working and you gained back all of the weight. If you allow even one hope to

linger that a new and better diet might be lurking around the corner, it will

prevent you from being free to rediscover Intuitive Eating.

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Yep, that's the thing that gets me. It's always for others. That's why it's so hard to be nice to yourself while dieting -- you are always thinking of the unkind things someone MIGHT be thinking. It is all so very external. My question: can you actively choose certain foods over others (that you might also like, but that don't honor your body) without getting into a restriction cycle and all that goes with it. And can you lose weight completely because of how you are caring for yourself on the INside, without regard to what so-and-so will think and how your co-workers will be envious, etc, etc.....

Mimi

Subject: Re: Principle #1 - Reject the Diet MentalityTo: IntuitiveEating_Support Date: Sunday, November 20, 2011, 11:54 AM

Isn't it sheer madness how we torture ourselves so we can 'look good' for OTHERS?!? It seems to me that the only reason your reunion gal dieted was that she felt she wasn't OK as she IS and felt that would be the only way she would receive what she isn't giving her own self - esteem. Sad, really sad. Katcha

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I've heard that from Gillian and others here too. Its sort of a 'click' that

just happens when one gets to a (true) self appreciative and honoring point -

the weight begins to just takes care of itself without 'applied' efforts on the

part of the person. I've had a bit of that happen for me though I never expect

to be 'fashionably thin' so have let that go for myself in favor of just being

comfortable in the body that serves me so well now.

Katcha

IEing since March 2007

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[Guest guest]

I frequently find myself evaluating food before I choose it, for fat,

sugar or calorie content. Is this ok? How do we know if we are being

healthy (as in gentle nutrition) or in a diet mentality?

Kriss

[Guest guest]

I frequently find myself evaluating food before I choose it, for fat,

sugar or calorie content. Is this ok? How do we know if we are being

healthy (as in gentle nutrition) or in a diet mentality?

Kriss

[Guest guest]

I would find that tricky to do for me Kriss. Its way too easy for me to slip

into mind-mode (judgement on my part OR whispers from 'experts') rather than

paying attention to what it is that my body is trying to direct me towards. I

also find that when I do let my body direct my eating I generally feel better -

aka healthy - than when I start thinking about what would be 'best' for me to

eat.

If you do give that a try, please let us know how that goes for you. I'm sure

others might be interested too.

Katcha

IEing since March 2007

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> sugar or calorie content. Is this ok? How do we know if we are being

> healthy (as in gentle nutrition) or in a diet mentality?

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[Guest guest]

I would find that tricky to do for me Kriss. Its way too easy for me to slip

into mind-mode (judgement on my part OR whispers from 'experts') rather than

paying attention to what it is that my body is trying to direct me towards. I

also find that when I do let my body direct my eating I generally feel better -

aka healthy - than when I start thinking about what would be 'best' for me to

eat.

If you do give that a try, please let us know how that goes for you. I'm sure

others might be interested too.

Katcha

IEing since March 2007

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> I frequently find myself evaluating food before I choose it, for fat,

> sugar or calorie content. Is this ok? How do we know if we are being

> healthy (as in gentle nutrition) or in a diet mentality?

> Kriss

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[Guest guest]

I would find that tricky to do for me Kriss. Its way too easy for me to slip

into mind-mode (judgement on my part OR whispers from 'experts') rather than

paying attention to what it is that my body is trying to direct me towards. I

also find that when I do let my body direct my eating I generally feel better -

aka healthy - than when I start thinking about what would be 'best' for me to

eat.

If you do give that a try, please let us know how that goes for you. I'm sure

others might be interested too.

Katcha

IEing since March 2007

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> I frequently find myself evaluating food before I choose it, for fat,

> sugar or calorie content. Is this ok? How do we know if we are being

> healthy (as in gentle nutrition) or in a diet mentality?

> Kriss

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[Guest guest]

The quote I used came from the Overview of IE in Chapter Three of the book.

Before I go on to Principle #2 I would be interested to hear back about what

impressed/impacted you most as you read Chapter Five which is the full

discussion of Rejecting the Diet Mentality.

Katcha

IEing since March 2007

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> Throw out the diet books and magazine articles that offer you the false hope

of losing weight quickly, easily, and permanently. Get angry at the lies that

have led you to feel as if you were a failure every time a new diet stopped

working and you gained back all of the weight. If you allow even one hope to

linger that a new and better diet might be lurking around the corner, it will

prevent you from being free to rediscover Intuitive Eating.

>

> (quoted from Intuitive eating by Tribloe & Resch - St. 's Press)

>

> Please reply (to this post) with any and all things this brings up for you.

>

[Guest guest]

The quote I used came from the Overview of IE in Chapter Three of the book.

Before I go on to Principle #2 I would be interested to hear back about what

impressed/impacted you most as you read Chapter Five which is the full

discussion of Rejecting the Diet Mentality.

Katcha

IEing since March 2007

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> Throw out the diet books and magazine articles that offer you the false hope

of losing weight quickly, easily, and permanently. Get angry at the lies that

have led you to feel as if you were a failure every time a new diet stopped

working and you gained back all of the weight. If you allow even one hope to

linger that a new and better diet might be lurking around the corner, it will

prevent you from being free to rediscover Intuitive Eating.

>

> (quoted from Intuitive eating by Tribloe & Resch - St. 's Press)

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> Please reply (to this post) with any and all things this brings up for you.

>

[Guest guest]

The quote I used came from the Overview of IE in Chapter Three of the book.

Before I go on to Principle #2 I would be interested to hear back about what

impressed/impacted you most as you read Chapter Five which is the full

discussion of Rejecting the Diet Mentality.

Katcha

IEing since March 2007

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> Throw out the diet books and magazine articles that offer you the false hope

of losing weight quickly, easily, and permanently. Get angry at the lies that

have led you to feel as if you were a failure every time a new diet stopped

working and you gained back all of the weight. If you allow even one hope to

linger that a new and better diet might be lurking around the corner, it will

prevent you from being free to rediscover Intuitive Eating.

>

> (quoted from Intuitive eating by Tribloe & Resch - St. 's Press)

>

> Please reply (to this post) with any and all things this brings up for you.

>

[Guest guest]

I have done so many of the pseudo

diets. When you are so desperate, you think “oh, yes, I can do that.”

Well, maybe for awhile. Then it all comes crashing down and you beat yourself

up for not being good enough.

I love the Dieter’s Dilemma

drawing on page 47, and on each time around I would pick something new from the

pseudo diet list. It just doesn’t work for me. It has been so freeing

to eat what other people are eating, not to have to take my “special”

food.

Thanks, Katcha, for doing all of this –

you are a great leader.

Kate

From: IntuitiveEating_Support [mailto:IntuitiveEating_Support ] On Behalf Of jain_daugh

Sent: Tuesday, November 22, 2011

11:22 AM

To: IntuitiveEating_Support

Subject:

Re: Principle #1 - Reject the Diet Mentality

The quote I used came from the Overview of IE in

Chapter Three of the book. Before I go on to Principle #2 I would be interested

to hear back about what impressed/impacted you most as you read Chapter Five

which is the full discussion of Rejecting the Diet Mentality.

Katcha

IEing since March 2007

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> Throw out the diet books and magazine articles that offer you the false

hope of losing weight quickly, easily, and permanently. Get angry at the lies

that have led you to feel as if you were a failure every time a new diet

stopped working and you gained back all of the weight. If you allow even one

hope to linger that a new and better diet might be lurking around the corner,

it will prevent you from being free to rediscover Intuitive Eating.

>

> (quoted from Intuitive eating by Tribloe & Resch - St.

's Press)

>

> Please reply (to this post) with any and all things this brings up for

you.

>

[Guest guest]

For me, it just confirmed my natural instinct, which is to think that diets are

crazy. I thought so as a teenager, and young adult, and even as I was steadily

gaining weight as an mature adult, I remember telling people that I just

" couldn't diet " , and that I never had. Even when I would have loved to lose

weight (because being 50 - 60 pounds overweight really wasn't much fun), I

couldn't imagine myself doing it. So this chapter was very reinforcing for me.

I could now know that I wasn't crazy, or worse, completely lacking in any kind

of self-discipline, and that not only was there a better way, but that the

dieting route WOULDN'T work. Whew! That's a load off of me.

Tilley

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> > Throw out the diet books and magazine articles that offer you the false hope

of losing weight quickly, easily, and permanently. Get angry at the lies that

have led you to feel as if you were a failure every time a new diet stopped

working and you gained back all of the weight. If you allow even one hope to

linger that a new and better diet might be lurking around the corner, it will

prevent you from being free to rediscover Intuitive Eating.

> >

> > (quoted from Intuitive eating by Tribloe & Resch - St. 's Press)

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> > Please reply (to this post) with any and all things this brings up for you.

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