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Pam,

First of all, bless you!!

Have you checked his ketosis before dinner when he's seizing? Maybe

he is burning too many calories during the day, and needs more at

lunch or needs an afternoon snack. Is it possible he's out of the

home in the afternoon and is cheating? Are you using sunscreen on

him in the afternoon, or brushing his teeth with a non-keto

toothpaste in the late morning or afternoon? I bet if the Atkins

works the rest of the day, it's something with the diet you just

haven't figured out yet.

Our dietician isn't really very passionate about the diet, and thus

only mediochre. There have been many questions she couldn't answer,

and that was that. No " I'll find out the answer for you. " I find

the best resource to be the parents on this website; much better

than the dietician.

Hang in there!

Debbie (mom to Bryce, 5 ketokid since 9/03 and seizure free since

9/03; just beginning to wean meds and terrified....)

>

> Hello

> My son , who was diagnosed with absence szs in Aug, has been

on the

> Atkins diet (neuro said " no " to ketogenic diet, but " yes " to

atkins) now

> since about January. Before Atkins he had 2-4 szs per hour even

on meds.

> He went seizure free the very first day of ketosis and was sz-

free or

> mostly sz free until about a month or two ago. He is sz free all

day

> until about dinner time when he will have clusters of szs, one

after

> another after another after another. I don't know if it is

related to

> blood sugar, but does anyone have any thoughts? It could be

related to

> heat as well since it is now hot and he plays outside just prior to

> dinner. Definitely heat is a trigger for , but even if he

stays

> inside the cool house he will cluster in the evenings now.

>

> I have been trying to keep a diary, but life has been so crazy

since the

> fire (we lost our home in the large San Diego fire and are still

fighting

> with insurance company before we can rebuild, we just had our baby

girl 2

> weeks ago (child #11 for us) and she ended up in the hospital with

> meningitis this past week plus my father has just been diagnosed

with end

> stage prostate and bone cancer). I haven't kept up with the diary

since

> the baby was born.

>

> has been drug free since he started the Atkins, but I am

thinking

> about trying other drugs as suggested by the neuro (although neuro

said

> our likelihood of finding any that work is practically nil, hence

the

> Atkins diet). I am also thinking about pushing the neuro to refer

us to

> the keto diet, but life has been so up in the air I am thinking it

will

> be too hard (although the atkins is very hard already). It just

seems

> that if a pill could work, it would be better than the diet. (but

of

> course no pills have worked, only added to our troubles). Aack--I

am at

> such a loss at what to do these days!

>

> I am also mad and worried that we do not have a dietician to help

us with

> either Atkins or Keto diet. is getting so thin and frail

looking.

> He was already small for his age, now he is even smaller. I worry

about

> his health. Does your keto team dietician help you a lot or a

little?

> Or does it depend on the team? Do you have access to the

dietician more

> than just at induction? I am trying to see how much help a

dietician

> would be.

>

> I can use any help and encouragement you can give me. Thanks in

advance

> Pam McD

>

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>>>>>>>>>Have you checked his ketosis before dinner when he's seizing?

Maybe

he is burning too many calories during the day, and needs more at

lunch or needs an afternoon snack. Is it possible he's out of the

home in the afternoon and is cheating? Are you using sunscreen on

him in the afternoon, or brushing his teeth with a non-keto

toothpaste in the late morning or afternoon? I bet if the Atkins

works the rest of the day, it's something with the diet you just

haven't figured out yet. >>>>>>>>>>

I am very thankful for all the responses to my son's dinnertime sz

activity. Everyone has the same theme: that he burns up too many

calories thus to check his ketones during sz activity times. He is

*very* active in the afternoon.I am confused though. Am I supposed to

strive for small, medium or large ketones? He usually has medium ketones

in the morning and large to very large ketones in the afternoons and

evenings which I thought was desirable. Whenever i check ketones during

sz activity they are usually quite large (perhaps too large?) I know he

is not cheating on his diet as we are home together 24/7. His

toothpaste is one of the approved Tom's of Maine, ditto with the

sunscreen.

If I need to lower 's ketones would it be better add another carb

per meal (currently he gets 10 carbs per day, 3 per meal) or to add

another meal, iyo?

thanks for your expertise!

PamMcD

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>>>>>>>>>Have you checked his ketosis before dinner when he's seizing?

Maybe

he is burning too many calories during the day, and needs more at

lunch or needs an afternoon snack. Is it possible he's out of the

home in the afternoon and is cheating? Are you using sunscreen on

him in the afternoon, or brushing his teeth with a non-keto

toothpaste in the late morning or afternoon? I bet if the Atkins

works the rest of the day, it's something with the diet you just

haven't figured out yet. >>>>>>>>>>

I am very thankful for all the responses to my son's dinnertime sz

activity. Everyone has the same theme: that he burns up too many

calories thus to check his ketones during sz activity times. He is

*very* active in the afternoon.I am confused though. Am I supposed to

strive for small, medium or large ketones? He usually has medium ketones

in the morning and large to very large ketones in the afternoons and

evenings which I thought was desirable. Whenever i check ketones during

sz activity they are usually quite large (perhaps too large?) I know he

is not cheating on his diet as we are home together 24/7. His

toothpaste is one of the approved Tom's of Maine, ditto with the

sunscreen.

If I need to lower 's ketones would it be better add another carb

per meal (currently he gets 10 carbs per day, 3 per meal) or to add

another meal, iyo?

thanks for your expertise!

PamMcD

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>>>>>>>>>Have you checked his ketosis before dinner when he's seizing?

Maybe

he is burning too many calories during the day, and needs more at

lunch or needs an afternoon snack. Is it possible he's out of the

home in the afternoon and is cheating? Are you using sunscreen on

him in the afternoon, or brushing his teeth with a non-keto

toothpaste in the late morning or afternoon? I bet if the Atkins

works the rest of the day, it's something with the diet you just

haven't figured out yet. >>>>>>>>>>

I am very thankful for all the responses to my son's dinnertime sz

activity. Everyone has the same theme: that he burns up too many

calories thus to check his ketones during sz activity times. He is

*very* active in the afternoon.I am confused though. Am I supposed to

strive for small, medium or large ketones? He usually has medium ketones

in the morning and large to very large ketones in the afternoons and

evenings which I thought was desirable. Whenever i check ketones during

sz activity they are usually quite large (perhaps too large?) I know he

is not cheating on his diet as we are home together 24/7. His

toothpaste is one of the approved Tom's of Maine, ditto with the

sunscreen.

If I need to lower 's ketones would it be better add another carb

per meal (currently he gets 10 carbs per day, 3 per meal) or to add

another meal, iyo?

thanks for your expertise!

PamMcD

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Hi there, I know I don't post much, but this happens to be something

that I have had experience with. We had to play around with the

meals/times ect. In the end we have ended up with 5 meals a day.

Now it's all even amount of calories, but at one point we had the 3

meals even then actually 3 smaller snacks between meals and at bed

time. I found that with my " nonposterboy epileptic " that he worked

differently and had a high energy level. Now almost 3 years into it

we are a little more relaxed and I listen to his body on when to move

ratios and when to add extra calories.

I always keep on hand macadamia nuts which typically run a 3.5:1

ratio in themselves. So since he is lower then that it's ok to have

a small amount higher. Try giving maybe a 100kcal snack 1-2 hrs

before dinner and see if that might help good luck. Remember listen

to your childs needs through constant observance.

Ketones should be at 80. Double check with Dietician, but the

morning means one thing and the evening another. One is the calorie

count and the other is the ratio and that will help on adjustments as

well. Also having some extra liquid in the afternoon will keep the

ketones for going to 160.

Tina

>

> >>>>>>>>>Have you checked his ketosis before dinner when he's

seizing?

> Maybe

> he is burning too many calories during the day, and needs more at

> lunch or needs an afternoon snack. Is it possible he's out of the

> home in the afternoon and is cheating? Are you using sunscreen on

> him in the afternoon, or brushing his teeth with a non-keto

> toothpaste in the late morning or afternoon? I bet if the Atkins

> works the rest of the day, it's something with the diet you just

> haven't figured out yet. >>>>>>>>>>

>

>

> I am very thankful for all the responses to my son's dinnertime sz

> activity. Everyone has the same theme: that he burns up too many

> calories thus to check his ketones during sz activity times. He is

> *very* active in the afternoon.I am confused though. Am I supposed

to

> strive for small, medium or large ketones? He usually has medium

ketones

> in the morning and large to very large ketones in the afternoons and

> evenings which I thought was desirable. Whenever i check ketones

during

> sz activity they are usually quite large (perhaps too large?) I

know he

> is not cheating on his diet as we are home together 24/7. His

> toothpaste is one of the approved Tom's of Maine, ditto with the

> sunscreen.

>

> If I need to lower 's ketones would it be better add another

carb

> per meal (currently he gets 10 carbs per day, 3 per meal) or to add

> another meal, iyo?

>

> thanks for your expertise!

> PamMcD

>

> ________________________________________________________________

> The best thing to hit the Internet in years - Juno SpeedBand!

> Surf the Web up to FIVE TIMES FASTER!

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Hi there, I know I don't post much, but this happens to be something

that I have had experience with. We had to play around with the

meals/times ect. In the end we have ended up with 5 meals a day.

Now it's all even amount of calories, but at one point we had the 3

meals even then actually 3 smaller snacks between meals and at bed

time. I found that with my " nonposterboy epileptic " that he worked

differently and had a high energy level. Now almost 3 years into it

we are a little more relaxed and I listen to his body on when to move

ratios and when to add extra calories.

I always keep on hand macadamia nuts which typically run a 3.5:1

ratio in themselves. So since he is lower then that it's ok to have

a small amount higher. Try giving maybe a 100kcal snack 1-2 hrs

before dinner and see if that might help good luck. Remember listen

to your childs needs through constant observance.

Ketones should be at 80. Double check with Dietician, but the

morning means one thing and the evening another. One is the calorie

count and the other is the ratio and that will help on adjustments as

well. Also having some extra liquid in the afternoon will keep the

ketones for going to 160.

Tina

>

> >>>>>>>>>Have you checked his ketosis before dinner when he's

seizing?

> Maybe

> he is burning too many calories during the day, and needs more at

> lunch or needs an afternoon snack. Is it possible he's out of the

> home in the afternoon and is cheating? Are you using sunscreen on

> him in the afternoon, or brushing his teeth with a non-keto

> toothpaste in the late morning or afternoon? I bet if the Atkins

> works the rest of the day, it's something with the diet you just

> haven't figured out yet. >>>>>>>>>>

>

>

> I am very thankful for all the responses to my son's dinnertime sz

> activity. Everyone has the same theme: that he burns up too many

> calories thus to check his ketones during sz activity times. He is

> *very* active in the afternoon.I am confused though. Am I supposed

to

> strive for small, medium or large ketones? He usually has medium

ketones

> in the morning and large to very large ketones in the afternoons and

> evenings which I thought was desirable. Whenever i check ketones

during

> sz activity they are usually quite large (perhaps too large?) I

know he

> is not cheating on his diet as we are home together 24/7. His

> toothpaste is one of the approved Tom's of Maine, ditto with the

> sunscreen.

>

> If I need to lower 's ketones would it be better add another

carb

> per meal (currently he gets 10 carbs per day, 3 per meal) or to add

> another meal, iyo?

>

> thanks for your expertise!

> PamMcD

>

> ________________________________________________________________

> The best thing to hit the Internet in years - Juno SpeedBand!

> Surf the Web up to FIVE TIMES FASTER!

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Hi there, I know I don't post much, but this happens to be something

that I have had experience with. We had to play around with the

meals/times ect. In the end we have ended up with 5 meals a day.

Now it's all even amount of calories, but at one point we had the 3

meals even then actually 3 smaller snacks between meals and at bed

time. I found that with my " nonposterboy epileptic " that he worked

differently and had a high energy level. Now almost 3 years into it

we are a little more relaxed and I listen to his body on when to move

ratios and when to add extra calories.

I always keep on hand macadamia nuts which typically run a 3.5:1

ratio in themselves. So since he is lower then that it's ok to have

a small amount higher. Try giving maybe a 100kcal snack 1-2 hrs

before dinner and see if that might help good luck. Remember listen

to your childs needs through constant observance.

Ketones should be at 80. Double check with Dietician, but the

morning means one thing and the evening another. One is the calorie

count and the other is the ratio and that will help on adjustments as

well. Also having some extra liquid in the afternoon will keep the

ketones for going to 160.

Tina

>

> >>>>>>>>>Have you checked his ketosis before dinner when he's

seizing?

> Maybe

> he is burning too many calories during the day, and needs more at

> lunch or needs an afternoon snack. Is it possible he's out of the

> home in the afternoon and is cheating? Are you using sunscreen on

> him in the afternoon, or brushing his teeth with a non-keto

> toothpaste in the late morning or afternoon? I bet if the Atkins

> works the rest of the day, it's something with the diet you just

> haven't figured out yet. >>>>>>>>>>

>

>

> I am very thankful for all the responses to my son's dinnertime sz

> activity. Everyone has the same theme: that he burns up too many

> calories thus to check his ketones during sz activity times. He is

> *very* active in the afternoon.I am confused though. Am I supposed

to

> strive for small, medium or large ketones? He usually has medium

ketones

> in the morning and large to very large ketones in the afternoons and

> evenings which I thought was desirable. Whenever i check ketones

during

> sz activity they are usually quite large (perhaps too large?) I

know he

> is not cheating on his diet as we are home together 24/7. His

> toothpaste is one of the approved Tom's of Maine, ditto with the

> sunscreen.

>

> If I need to lower 's ketones would it be better add another

carb

> per meal (currently he gets 10 carbs per day, 3 per meal) or to add

> another meal, iyo?

>

> thanks for your expertise!

> PamMcD

>

> ________________________________________________________________

> The best thing to hit the Internet in years - Juno SpeedBand!

> Surf the Web up to FIVE TIMES FASTER!

> Only $14.95/ month - visit www.juno.com to sign up today!

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Did you try a Google search. I found these links and many more.

http://www.dietdepot.com/files/Atkins___diet_drinks_and_shakes.html

http://www.thenewwidgetsite.com/prod/Synergy-Diet/Food-and-Drink/Keto-Kooler

--Grape-(5oz).html

Mike

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From: Laverna Moreland

Sent: Sunday, June 20, 2004 2:37 PM

To: ketogenic

Subject: Help!

I am entering another 'plea' to see if anyone out there has access to a non

carb keto drink that we have been using for Rebekah for the past three years

but now can't get it because they are no longer making it. I was thinking

that those of you in the States might still be able to access it at some of

the stores. It is called' keto kooler drink mix(grape)(sweetened with

stevia).......I have tried the cherry kool aid since my sister in law sent

it from the states.....and sweetened it with stevia...but Rebekah hates

it......

Would appreciate any feed back on this. Since Rebekah seizes from aspartame

we are very limited with drinks.

LaVerna, mom to Rebekah

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yeppers try here. http://lowcarb-resource.com/low-carbohydrate-drinks.html

Ally

Help!

I am entering another 'plea' to see if anyone out there has access to a non

carb keto drink that we have been using for Rebekah for the past three years but

now can't get it because they are no longer making it. I was thinking that

those of you in the States might still be able to access it at some of the

stores. It is called' keto kooler drink mix(grape)(sweetened with

stevia).......I have tried the cherry kool aid since my sister in law sent it

from the states.....and sweetened it with stevia...but Rebekah hates it......

Would appreciate any feed back on this. Since Rebekah seizes from aspartame we

are very limited with drinks.

LaVerna, mom to Rebekah

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yeppers try here. http://lowcarb-resource.com/low-carbohydrate-drinks.html

Ally

Help!

I am entering another 'plea' to see if anyone out there has access to a non

carb keto drink that we have been using for Rebekah for the past three years but

now can't get it because they are no longer making it. I was thinking that

those of you in the States might still be able to access it at some of the

stores. It is called' keto kooler drink mix(grape)(sweetened with

stevia).......I have tried the cherry kool aid since my sister in law sent it

from the states.....and sweetened it with stevia...but Rebekah hates it......

Would appreciate any feed back on this. Since Rebekah seizes from aspartame we

are very limited with drinks.

LaVerna, mom to Rebekah

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yeppers try here. http://lowcarb-resource.com/low-carbohydrate-drinks.html

Ally

Help!

I am entering another 'plea' to see if anyone out there has access to a non

carb keto drink that we have been using for Rebekah for the past three years but

now can't get it because they are no longer making it. I was thinking that

those of you in the States might still be able to access it at some of the

stores. It is called' keto kooler drink mix(grape)(sweetened with

stevia).......I have tried the cherry kool aid since my sister in law sent it

from the states.....and sweetened it with stevia...but Rebekah hates it......

Would appreciate any feed back on this. Since Rebekah seizes from aspartame we

are very limited with drinks.

LaVerna, mom to Rebekah

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Sorry LaVerna, cant be of any help with that one - but have you tried Fruit 2 O?

Mike does great with it and I am pretty sure it is splenda sweetned as Mike

doesnt get aspartame either.

Good luck in your search - would like to know if/where you find it as I am in

need of other ideas to keep Mike drinking :)

Jenn

Help!

I am entering another 'plea' to see if anyone out there has access to a non

carb keto drink that we have been using for Rebekah for the past three years but

now can't get it because they are no longer making it. I was thinking that

those of you in the States might still be able to access it at some of the

stores. It is called' keto kooler drink mix(grape)(sweetened with

stevia).......I have tried the cherry kool aid since my sister in law sent it

from the states.....and sweetened it with stevia...but Rebekah hates it......

Would appreciate any feed back on this. Since Rebekah seizes from aspartame we

are very limited with drinks.

LaVerna, mom to Rebekah

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I used to get Hannah keto O.J. and Keto pink lemonade through

www.netrition.com They ship quickly and have a flat rate fee in the

states. Hope this helps! Gail

> Jenn

> Help!

>

>

> I am entering another 'plea' to see if anyone out there has

access to a non carb keto drink that we have been using for Rebekah

for the past three years but now can't get it because they are no

longer making it. I was thinking that those of you in the States

might still be able to access it at some of the stores. It is

called' keto kooler drink mix(grape)(sweetened with stevia).......I

have tried the cherry kool aid since my sister in law sent it from

the states.....and sweetened it with stevia...but Rebekah s

it......

> Would appreciate any feed back on this. Since Rebekah seizes

from aspartame we are very limited with drinks.

> LaVerna, mom to Rebekah

>

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Jenn,

That's where we USED to get it......all the sites that used to carry it no

longer do since they aren't making it anymore..very frustrating! We have done

extensive research on line with no avail.....thus my plea! Thanks though.

LaVerna, mom to Rebekah

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Jenn,

Where do you get Fruit 2o? Is it an American product? Maybe I can get it on

line..haven't used Splenda with Rebekah but may try it.

LaVerna

Help!

I am entering another 'plea' to see if anyone out there has access to a non

carb keto drink that we have been using for Rebekah for the past three years but

now can't get it because they are no longer making it. I was thinking that

those of you in the States might still be able to access it at some of the

stores. It is called' keto kooler drink mix(grape)(sweetened with

stevia).......I have tried the cherry kool aid since my sister in law sent it

from the states.....and sweetened it with stevia...but Rebekah hates it......

Would appreciate any feed back on this. Since Rebekah seizes from aspartame

we are very limited with drinks.

LaVerna, mom to Rebekah

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Laverna,

My computer has been acting up and I missed your previous message. What is it

you are looking for? Our hospital in Atlanta GA has a pretty good formula store

where you can purchase all sorts of keto foods and drinks. Let me know again

what it is you are looking for and I will check it out for you. Maybe they have

some in a " dusty corner! "

Re: Re: Help!

Jenn,

That's where we USED to get it......all the sites that used to carry it no

longer do since they aren't making it anymore..very frustrating! We have done

extensive research on line with no avail.....thus my plea! Thanks though.

LaVerna, mom to Rebekah

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oh oh I found one in your neck of the woods I think

Ally

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Jenn,

That's where we USED to get it......all the sites that used to carry it no

longer do since they aren't making it anymore..very frustrating! We have done

extensive research on line with no avail.....thus my plea! Thanks though.

LaVerna, mom to Rebekah

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but it erased the link so let me try again... called lowcarbinternational and

can be reached at info@... +44 (0) 1256-397933 Hope it

helps! They do have grape keto koolers

Ally

Re: Re: Help!

Jenn,

That's where we USED to get it......all the sites that used to carry it no

longer do since they aren't making it anymore..very frustrating! We have done

extensive research on line with no avail.....thus my plea! Thanks though.

LaVerna, mom to Rebekah

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,

It's the grape keto-kooler drink powder I'm looking for. All the on line sites

where we could get it before are no longer selling it. It would be great if you

could find it in a 'dusty corner'!!!!

Thanks, LaVerna

Re: Re: Help!

Jenn,

That's where we USED to get it......all the sites that used to carry it no

longer do since they aren't making it anymore..very frustrating! We have done

extensive research on line with no avail.....thus my plea! Thanks though.

LaVerna, mom to Rebekah

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,

It's the grape keto-kooler drink powder I'm looking for. All the on line sites

where we could get it before are no longer selling it. It would be great if you

could find it in a 'dusty corner'!!!!

Thanks, LaVerna

Re: Re: Help!

Jenn,

That's where we USED to get it......all the sites that used to carry it no

longer do since they aren't making it anymore..very frustrating! We have done

extensive research on line with no avail.....thus my plea! Thanks though.

LaVerna, mom to Rebekah

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I'm on my 3rd day of phase 1. I feel like I'm eating enough but today I felt

very weak. My stomach seems to be hungry all the time. I'm not going by the

menu in the book just the " foods to enjoy, foods to avoid " list. I'm going on a

7 mi. hike tomorrow and I'm not sure I'll make it....energy wise. I exercise

regularly and have for some time, so fit won't be the problem.

I'm already tired of the food list for phase 1...HELP!

ANY helpful advice would be great!

Thanks!

Pam

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I think I'd put off your hike tomorrow til you are off phase one. You are going

through withdrawals from sugar and bad carbs. The symptoms last for a couple of

days. Your energy might not come back til you start adding food back in. If you

are hungry, eat! To help the withdrawals, make sure you eat all your meals AND

all your snacks, drink a lot of water (to flush all the bad from your system

quicker), get plenty of rest, take a pain killer if needed (I got horrible

headaches during detox from sugar). It is VERY common to feel the way you do.

Just goes to show how bad those things are for you. Once the withdrawals go

away, you will feel great. Carol

help!

I'm on my 3rd day of phase 1. I feel like I'm eating enough but today I felt

very weak. My stomach seems to be hungry all the time. I'm not going by the

menu in the book just the " foods to enjoy, foods to avoid " list. I'm going on a

7 mi. hike tomorrow and I'm not sure I'll make it....energy wise. I exercise

regularly and have for some time, so fit won't be the problem.

I'm already tired of the food list for phase 1...HELP!

ANY helpful advice would be great!

Thanks!

Pam

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I hiked on Phase 1 and didn't have any problems. I just ate a lot of nuts with

just some M & M's in it. It kept my energy up and didn't make me gain weight.

I know it is cheating, but it helps a little. I also had dried strawberries &

blueberries in my trail mix.

Kelli in WY

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Pam,

Take some cheese sticks, nuts, maybe even some hard boiled eggs. One

of my favorite things to take when I'm hiking are almonds.

As far as feeling hungry... you should eat as much as you need so as

not to feel hungry, even if that means eating more snacks.

Hope this helps!

Paola

--- and Pam wrote:

> I'm on my 3rd day of phase 1. I feel like I'm eating enough but

> today I felt very weak. My stomach seems to be hungry all the time.

> I'm not going by the menu in the book just the " foods to enjoy, foods

> to avoid " list. I'm going on a 7 mi. hike tomorrow and I'm not sure

> I'll make it....energy wise. I exercise regularly and have for some

> time, so fit won't be the problem.

> I'm already tired of the food list for phase 1...HELP!

> ANY helpful advice would be great!

> Thanks!

> Pam

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