Re: (unknown)

June 22, 2001

> >

> > > Devin, Thanks-- I'll check that book out. About RR, I don't

> know,

> > > sounds strange to me. I'm staying away from most things

right

> now.

> > > Don't want to get sucked into another weird trap.

Yes--paranoid.

> I'm

> > > kinda looking at Many roads, one journey--Charlotte Kasl.

It's

> very

> > > different from my up-bringing--so it's slow. What you

said

> > > about assuming involving faith......where do you draw that

line?

> > > Have tons of questions about that kind of stuff. Thanks for

> talking-

> > > -------netty

> > >

> >

> > One book that provides a readable and intelligent discussion

> of " that kind

> > of stuff " is " The Whys of a Philosophical Scrivener, " by

> Gardner.

> > Gardner wrote the Mathematical Recreations column in

Scientific

> American for

> > decades, and contributed many articles to Skeptical Inquirer

(mainly

> > debunking paranormal claims.) " The Whys... " is a series of

essays

> about what

> > he believes, and of course " why " , about reality, science,

society,

> > religion... Gardner reconciles a generally rational scientific

> outlook with

> > belief in God, prayer, and an afterlife.

> >

> > --

> wally

>

> Thanks---that one sounds really good, and challenging. I think

I'll

> need my

> dictionary.

> Another question? What exactly is a Quaker. That's what

Charlotte

> Kasl claims to be...makes me kinda uneasy. Do people

get

> upset with all these questions? Cause I have so many. In

my

> group--they would get perturbed, and say, if-- god wants you to

know

> he'll reveal it to you....so guess what? he must....found you

> people. (that's a joke) So far you all have been great, letting

me

> blow off steam, and throw in my two cents worth. Never went to

> college(I know, you can tell) but I love to learn. And I've missed

> so much--lots to make-up for. And when I'm reading or trying

to

> learn something, I'm not so furious nor plotting to destroy a

> individual's plans. There is one thing I can't get away from,

and

> I'm not sure what to do about it. The other people that are

stuck

> there....and one inparticular. She was my sponsor, it's her

husband

> that was the main guru. She has two older children from a

this

> could be proved by school records and the hospital. A few

strange

> eposides happened). They meet in AA. He was her sponsor.

Seven

> years later,six of his kids--she will probably be pregnant again.

I

> think she knows something is wrong,very wrong, maybe in the

last 2

> 1/2 - 3 yrs. She always cryed alot---now I think I know why. He

was

> always around when her sponsee's were there, and he also

did all the

> fifth's. She never goes anywhere...and so much more. I cry for

> her. I don't know how to help her-or-if she wants help. We

have not

> spoken for over 5 months. Until I have a plan, I do nothing.

netty

Hello again,

Don't worry about asking questions, that is what we all need to

do in order to learn. I'm no expert on the Quakers, just a few

basic things. They were started by Fox, in colonial

america, along with the Shakers, Amish, Puritians, Unitarians,

and a whole lot more. Quaker is a nickname the proper name is

" Society of Friends. " They are not a very large group, but still

exist. If you live in a city in the U.S., you would be likely to find

" Society of Friends " listed in your phone book under churches.

The tend to be very liberal, pascivists, firm belief in acceptance

and understanding. The genearally oppose war, and they were

one of the groups that was instrumental in the abolition of

slavery in the early U.S. history. Well, that's about the extent of my

knowledge of the Quakers. OH, the guy on the " Quaker Oats " box

is dressed in attire that was typical of the early Quakers. Today

they do not have attire that is exclusive to the group.

Devin

June 22, 2001

>

> > >

> > > > Devin, Thanks-- I'll check that book out. About RR, I

don't

> > know,

> > > > sounds strange to me. I'm staying away from most things

> right

> > now.

> > > > Don't want to get sucked into another weird trap.

> Yes--paranoid.

> > I'm

> > > > kinda looking at Many roads, one journey--Charlotte Kasl.

> It's

> > very

> > > > different from my up-bringing--so it's slow. What you

> said

> > > > about assuming involving faith......where do you draw that

> line?

> > > > Have tons of questions about that kind of stuff. Thanks for

> > talking-

> > > > -------netty

> > > >

> > >

> > > One book that provides a readable and intelligent discussion

> > of " that kind

> > > of stuff " is " The Whys of a Philosophical Scrivener, " by

> > Gardner.

> > > Gardner wrote the Mathematical Recreations column in

> Scientific

> > American for

> > > decades, and contributed many articles to Skeptical Inquirer

> (mainly

> > > debunking paranormal claims.) " The Whys... " is a series of

> essays

> > about what

> > > he believes, and of course " why " , about reality, science,

> society,

> > > religion... Gardner reconciles a generally rational scientific

> > outlook with

> > > belief in God, prayer, and an afterlife.

> > >

> > > --

> >

wally

>

> > Thanks---that one sounds really good, and challenging. I think

> I'll

> > need my

> >

dictionary.

> > Another question? What exactly is a Quaker. That's what

> Charlotte

> > Kasl claims to be...makes me kinda uneasy. Do people

> get

> > upset with all these questions? Cause I have so many. In

> my

> > group--they would get perturbed, and say, if-- god wants you to

> know

> > he'll reveal it to you....so guess what? he must....found you

> > people. (that's a joke) So far you all have been great, letting

> me

> > blow off steam, and throw in my two cents worth. Never went to

> > college(I know, you can tell) but I love to learn. And I've

missed

> > so much--lots to make-up for. And when I'm reading or trying

> to

> > learn something, I'm not so furious nor plotting to destroy a

> > individual's plans. There is one thing I can't get away from,

> and

> > I'm not sure what to do about it. The other people that are

> stuck

> > there....and one inparticular. She was my sponsor, it's her

> husband

> > that was the main guru. She has two older children from a

> previous

> > marriage, I think he blackmails her, using them. (If need be,

> this

> > could be proved by school records and the hospital. A few

> strange

> > eposides happened). They meet in AA. He was her sponsor.

> Seven

> > years later,six of his kids--she will probably be pregnant

again.

> I

> > think she knows something is wrong,very wrong, maybe in the

> last 2

> > 1/2 - 3 yrs. She always cryed alot---now I think I know why. He

> was

> > always around when her sponsee's were there, and he also

> did all the

> > fifth's. She never goes anywhere...and so much more. I cry for

> > her. I don't know how to help her-or-if she wants help. We

> have not

> > spoken for over 5 months. Until I have a plan, I do nothing.

> netty

>

> Hello again,

>

> Don't worry about asking questions, that is what we all need to

> do in order to learn. I'm no expert on the Quakers, just a few

> basic things. They were started by Fox, in colonial

> america, along with the Shakers, Amish, Puritians, Unitarians,

> and a whole lot more. Quaker is a nickname the proper name is

> " Society of Friends. " They are not a very large group, but still

> exist. If you live in a city in the U.S., you would be likely to

find

> " Society of Friends " listed in your phone book under churches.

> The tend to be very liberal, pascivists, firm belief in acceptance

> and understanding. The genearally oppose war, and they were

> one of the groups that was instrumental in the abolition of

> slavery in the early U.S. history. Well, that's about the extent of

my

> knowledge of the Quakers. OH, the guy on the " Quaker Oats " box

> is dressed in attire that was typical of the early Quakers. Today

> they do not have attire that is exclusive to the group.

>

Devin

Thanks--your great! uhmmmm -- how did you do

that with the words? Wrapwords? netty

June 22, 2001

Ewell(sic?) Gibbons was a quaker; you know... the

Grape Nuts guy who used to ask the tv viewer " Ever eat

a pine cone? Many parts are edible... "

--- caenemy@... wrote:

>

> >

> > > >

> > > > > Devin, Thanks-- I'll check that book out.

> About RR, I

> don't

> > > know,

> > > > > sounds strange to me. I'm staying away from

> most things

> > right

> > > now.

> > > > > Don't want to get sucked into another weird

> trap.

> > Yes--paranoid.

> > > I'm

> > > > > kinda looking at Many roads, one

> journey--Charlotte Kasl.

> > It's

> > > very

> > > > > different from my up-bringing--so it's slow.

> What you

> > said

> > > > > about assuming involving faith......where do

> you draw that

> > line?

> > > > > Have tons of questions about that kind of

> stuff. Thanks for

> > > talking-

> > > > > -------netty

> > > > >

> > > >

> > > > One book that provides a readable and

> intelligent discussion

> > > of " that kind

> > > > of stuff " is " The Whys of a Philosophical

> Scrivener, " by

> > > Gardner.

> > > > Gardner wrote the Mathematical Recreations

> column in

> > Scientific

> > > American for

> > > > decades, and contributed many articles to

> Skeptical Inquirer

> > (mainly

> > > > debunking paranormal claims.) " The Whys... " is

> a series of

> > essays

> > > about what

> > > > he believes, and of course " why " , about

> reality, science,

> > society,

> > > > religion... Gardner reconciles a generally

> rational scientific

> > > outlook with

> > > > belief in God, prayer, and an afterlife.

> > > >

> > > > --

> > >

> wally

>

> >

>

> > > Thanks---that one sounds really good, and

> challenging. I think

> > I'll

> > > need my

> > >

> dictionary.

>

> > > Another question? What exactly is a Quaker.

> That's what

> > Charlotte

> > > Kasl claims to be...makes me kinda uneasy.

> Do people

> > get

> > > upset with all these questions? Cause I have

> so many. In

> > my

> > > group--they would get perturbed, and say, if--

> god wants you to

> > know

> > > he'll reveal it to you....so guess what? he

> must....found you

> > > people. (that's a joke) So far you all have

> been great, letting

> > me

> > > blow off steam, and throw in my two cents worth.

> Never went to

> > > college(I know, you can tell) but I love to

> learn. And I've

> missed

> > > so much--lots to make-up for. And when I'm

> reading or trying

> > to

> > > learn something, I'm not so furious nor plotting

> to destroy a

> > > individual's plans. There is one thing I can't

> get away from,

> > and

> > > I'm not sure what to do about it. The other

> people that are

> > stuck

> > > there....and one inparticular. She was my

> sponsor, it's her

> > husband

> > > that was the main guru. She has two older

> children from a

> > previous

> > > marriage, I think he blackmails her, using them.

> (If need be,

> > this

> > > could be proved by school records and the

> hospital. A few

> > strange

> > > eposides happened). They meet in AA. He was her

> sponsor.

> > Seven

> > > years later,six of his kids--she will probably

> be pregnant

> again.

> > I

> > > think she knows something is wrong,very wrong,

> maybe in the

> > last 2

> > > 1/2 - 3 yrs. She always cryed alot---now I

> think I know why. He

> > was

> > > always around when her sponsee's were there, and

> he also

> > did all the

> > > fifth's. She never goes anywhere...and so much

> more. I cry for

> > > her. I don't know how to help her-or-if she

> wants help. We

> > have not

> > > spoken for over 5 months. Until I have a plan,

> I do nothing.

> > netty

> >

> > Hello again,

> >

> > Don't worry about asking questions, that is what

> we all need to

> > do in order to learn. I'm no expert on the

> Quakers, just a few

> > basic things. They were started by Fox, in

> colonial

> > america, along with the Shakers, Amish, Puritians,

> Unitarians,

> > and a whole lot more. Quaker is a nickname the

> proper name is

> > " Society of Friends. " They are not a very large

> group, but still

> > exist. If you live in a city in the U.S., you

> would be likely to

> find

> > " Society of Friends " listed in your phone book

> under churches.

> > The tend to be very liberal, pascivists, firm

> belief in acceptance

> > and understanding. The genearally oppose war, and

> they were

> > one of the groups that was instrumental in the

> abolition of

> > slavery in the early U.S. history. Well, that's

> about the extent of

> my

> > knowledge of the Quakers. OH, the guy on the

> " Quaker Oats " box

> > is dressed in attire that was typical of the early

> Quakers. Today

> > they do not have attire that is exclusive to the

> group.

> >

> Devin

>

> Thanks--your great! uhmmmm --

> how did you do

> that with the words? Wrapwords?

> netty

>

__________________________________________________

June 22, 2001

-----------No comment------------

caenemy

-- In 12-step-free@y..., Ron s <jovianman@y...> wrote:

> Ewell(sic?) Gibbons was a quaker; you know... the

> Grape Nuts guy who used to ask the tv viewer " Ever eat

> a pine cone? Many parts are edible... "

>

> --- caenemy@y... wrote:

> >

> > >

> > > > >

> > > > > > Devin, Thanks-- I'll check that book out.

> > About RR, I

> > don't

> > > > know,

> > > > > > sounds strange to me. I'm staying away from

> > most things

> > > right

> > > > now.

> > > > > > Don't want to get sucked into another weird

> > trap.

> > > Yes--paranoid.

> > > > I'm

> > > > > > kinda looking at Many roads, one

> > journey--Charlotte Kasl.

> > > It's

> > > > very

> > > > > > different from my up-bringing--so it's slow.

> > What you

> > > said

> > > > > > about assuming involving faith......where do

> > you draw that

> > > line?

> > > > > > Have tons of questions about that kind of

> > stuff. Thanks for

> > > > talking-

> > > > > > -------netty

> > > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > One book that provides a readable and

> > intelligent discussion

> > > > of " that kind

> > > > > of stuff " is " The Whys of a Philosophical

> > Scrivener, " by

> > > > Gardner.

> > > > > Gardner wrote the Mathematical Recreations

> > column in

> > > Scientific

> > > > American for

> > > > > decades, and contributed many articles to

> > Skeptical Inquirer

> > > (mainly

> > > > > debunking paranormal claims.) " The Whys... " is

> > a series of

> > > essays

> > > > about what

> > > > > he believes, and of course " why " , about

> > reality, science,

> > > society,

> > > > > religion... Gardner reconciles a generally

> > rational scientific

> > > > outlook with

> > > > > belief in God, prayer, and an afterlife.

> > > > >

> > > > > --

> > > >

> > wally

> >

> > >

> >

> > > > Thanks---that one sounds really good, and

> > challenging. I think

> > > I'll

> > > > need my

> > > >

> > dictionary.

> >

> > > > Another question? What exactly is a Quaker.

> > That's what

> > > Charlotte

> > > > Kasl claims to be...makes me kinda uneasy.

> > Do people

> > > get

> > > > upset with all these questions? Cause I have

> > so many. In

> > > my

> > > > group--they would get perturbed, and say, if--

> > god wants you to

> > > know

> > > > he'll reveal it to you....so guess what? he

> > must....found you

> > > > people. (that's a joke) So far you all have

> > been great, letting

> > > me

> > > > blow off steam, and throw in my two cents worth.

> > Never went to

> > > > college(I know, you can tell) but I love to

> > learn. And I've

> > missed

> > > > so much--lots to make-up for. And when I'm

> > reading or trying

> > > to

> > > > learn something, I'm not so furious nor plotting

> > to destroy a

> > > > individual's plans. There is one thing I can't

> > get away from,

> > > and

> > > > I'm not sure what to do about it. The other

> > people that are

> > > stuck

> > > > there....and one inparticular. She was my

> > sponsor, it's her

> > > husband

> > > > that was the main guru. She has two older

> > children from a

> > > previous

> > > > marriage, I think he blackmails her, using them.

> > (If need be,

> > > this

> > > > could be proved by school records and the

> > hospital. A few

> > > strange

> > > > eposides happened). They meet in AA. He was her

> > sponsor.

> > > Seven

> > > > years later,six of his kids--she will probably

> > be pregnant

> > again.

> > > I

> > > > think she knows something is wrong,very wrong,

> > maybe in the

> > > last 2

> > > > 1/2 - 3 yrs. She always cryed alot---now I

> > think I know why. He

> > > was

> > > > always around when her sponsee's were there, and

> > he also

> > > did all the

> > > > fifth's. She never goes anywhere...and so much

> > more. I cry for

> > > > her. I don't know how to help her-or-if she

> > wants help. We

> > > have not

> > > > spoken for over 5 months. Until I have a plan,

> > I do nothing.

> > > netty

> > >

> > > Hello again,

> > >

> > > Don't worry about asking questions, that is what

> > we all need to

> > > do in order to learn. I'm no expert on the

> > Quakers, just a few

> > > basic things. They were started by Fox, in

> > colonial

> > > america, along with the Shakers, Amish, Puritians,

> > Unitarians,

> > > and a whole lot more. Quaker is a nickname the

> > proper name is

> > > " Society of Friends. " They are not a very large

> > group, but still

> > > exist. If you live in a city in the U.S., you

> > would be likely to

> > find

> > > " Society of Friends " listed in your phone book

> > under churches.

> > > The tend to be very liberal, pascivists, firm

> > belief in acceptance

> > > and understanding. The genearally oppose war, and

> > they were

> > > one of the groups that was instrumental in the

> > abolition of

> > > slavery in the early U.S. history. Well, that's

> > about the extent of

> > my

> > > knowledge of the Quakers. OH, the guy on the

> > " Quaker Oats " box

> > > is dressed in attire that was typical of the early

> > Quakers. Today

> > > they do not have attire that is exclusive to the

> > group.

> > >

> > Devin

> >

> > Thanks--your great! uhmmmm --

> > how did you do

> > that with the words? Wrapwords?

> > netty

> >

>

> __________________________________________________

>

June 22, 2001

> Ewell(sic?) Gibbons was a quaker; you know... the

> Grape Nuts guy who used to ask the tv viewer " Ever eat

> a pine cone? Many parts are edible... "

>

-------------

Yeah, I remember ol' Euell on TV. He died of stomach cancer, if I recall

correctly. Put me right off both Grape Nuts and pine cones!

~Rita

June 22, 2001

----- Original Message -----

> Ewell(sic?) Gibbons was a quaker; you know... the

> Grape Nuts guy who used to ask the tv viewer " Ever eat

> a pine cone? Many parts are edible... "

So was M. Nixon.

-- Bob Marshall

June 23, 2001

--- Bob Marshall wrote:

> ----- Original Message -----

>

> > Ewell(sic?) Gibbons was a quaker; you know... the

> > Grape Nuts guy who used to ask the tv viewer " Ever

> eat

> > a pine cone? Many parts are edible... "

>

> So was M. Nixon.

>

Hmmm... that explains his policy of protraction in

Vietnam, wanton disregard for the US Constitution, the

Saturday Night Massacre, etc... I think that guy ate

one too many pine cones (the inedible parts only)...

or at times thats all his head seemed to be filled

with...

__________________________________________________

June 23, 2001

From Rita, " Yeah, I remember ol' Euell on TV. He died of stomach cancer, if I

recall

correctly. Put me right off both Grape Nuts and pine cones! "

Euell didn't die of stomach cancer. He had a heart attack at the Sunbury, PA AA

meeting.

Members rushed him to the hospital, but Euell died.

He was a devout stepper. He lived out in the boonies around here and came to

our meetings

as well as other meetings within driving distance. We knew each other by name

and by

sight. He was great buddies with my sponsor and my grand-sponsor (by which I

mean my

sponsor's sponsor).

I was about to get to know him better. I was one of the people he and his wife

had

invited to come to a holiday party at their house out in the boonies. But

suddenly he

died, and I forget exactly what date. It was within a few days of Christmas or

New

Year's.

My grand-sponsor was of the opinion that Euell's last big drunk damaged his

heath and

contributed to his death. Six months previously Euell went on a hell of a

bender that

lasted days and days and ended with him coming out of a blackout in a car

somewhere in

another state and not knowing where he was or how the hell he got there or how

much time

had passed. I have no idea whether or not my grand-sponsor was right about that

contributing to his death.

Euell loved chocolate, and he loved burgers. I was so surprised when I learned

that. I

thought he was into nuts and berries and stuff like that. But he'd head into

town and go

and get greaseburgers, by golly. I was looking forward to the chocolate he and

his wife

were planning to serve at their party.

I like Grapenuts. I never did find out if Euell actually ate Grapenuts himself.

And I

still have an autographed hickory nut he gave me.

Cheers,

nz

June 23, 2001

Nixon was not a practicing Quaker. He went to church.

> > ----- Original Message -----

> > From: " Ron s " <jovianman@y...>

> >

> > > Ewell(sic?) Gibbons was a quaker; you know... the

> > > Grape Nuts guy who used to ask the tv viewer " Ever

> > eat

> > > a pine cone? Many parts are edible... "

> >

> > So was M. Nixon.

> >

>

> Hmmm... that explains his policy of protraction in

> Vietnam, wanton disregard for the US Constitution, the

> Saturday Night Massacre, etc... I think that guy ate

> one too many pine cones (the inedible parts only)...

> or at times thats all his head seemed to be filled

> with...

>

> __________________________________________________

>

June 24, 2001

I believe it is spelled Euell Gibbons . Mike.

Re: Re: (unknown)

> Ewell(sic?) Gibbons was a quaker; you know... the

> Grape Nuts guy who used to ask the tv viewer " Ever eat

> a pine cone? Many parts are edible... "

>

> --- caenemy@... wrote:

> >

> > >

> > > > >

> > > > > > Devin, Thanks-- I'll check that book out.

> > About RR, I

> > don't

> > > > know,

> > > > > > sounds strange to me. I'm staying away from

> > most things

> > > right

> > > > now.

> > > > > > Don't want to get sucked into another weird

> > trap.

> > > Yes--paranoid.

> > > > I'm

> > > > > > kinda looking at Many roads, one

> > journey--Charlotte Kasl.

> > > It's

> > > > very

> > > > > > different from my up-bringing--so it's slow.

> > What you

> > > said

> > > > > > about assuming involving faith......where do

> > you draw that

> > > line?

> > > > > > Have tons of questions about that kind of

> > stuff. Thanks for

> > > > talking-

> > > > > > -------netty

> > > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > One book that provides a readable and

> > intelligent discussion

> > > > of " that kind

> > > > > of stuff " is " The Whys of a Philosophical

> > Scrivener, " by

> > > > Gardner.

> > > > > Gardner wrote the Mathematical Recreations

> > column in

> > > Scientific

> > > > American for

> > > > > decades, and contributed many articles to

> > Skeptical Inquirer

> > > (mainly

> > > > > debunking paranormal claims.) " The Whys... " is

> > a series of

> > > essays

> > > > about what

> > > > > he believes, and of course " why " , about

> > reality, science,

> > > society,

> > > > > religion... Gardner reconciles a generally

> > rational scientific

> > > > outlook with

> > > > > belief in God, prayer, and an afterlife.

> > > > >

> > > > > --

> > > >

> > wally

> >

> > >

> >

> > > > Thanks---that one sounds really good, and

> > challenging. I think

> > > I'll

> > > > need my

> > > >

> > dictionary.

> >

> > > > Another question? What exactly is a Quaker.

> > That's what

> > > Charlotte

> > > > Kasl claims to be...makes me kinda uneasy.

> > Do people

> > > get

> > > > upset with all these questions? Cause I have

> > so many. In

> > > my

> > > > group--they would get perturbed, and say, if--

> > god wants you to

> > > know

> > > > he'll reveal it to you....so guess what? he

> > must....found you

> > > > people. (that's a joke) So far you all have

> > been great, letting

> > > me

> > > > blow off steam, and throw in my two cents worth.

> > Never went to

> > > > college(I know, you can tell) but I love to

> > learn. And I've

> > missed

> > > > so much--lots to make-up for. And when I'm

> > reading or trying

> > > to

> > > > learn something, I'm not so furious nor plotting

> > to destroy a

> > > > individual's plans. There is one thing I can't

> > get away from,

> > > and

> > > > I'm not sure what to do about it. The other

> > people that are

> > > stuck

> > > > there....and one inparticular. She was my

> > sponsor, it's her

> > > husband

> > > > that was the main guru. She has two older

> > children from a

> > > previous

> > > > marriage, I think he blackmails her, using them.

> > (If need be,

> > > this

> > > > could be proved by school records and the

> > hospital. A few

> > > strange

> > > > eposides happened). They meet in AA. He was her

> > sponsor.

> > > Seven

> > > > years later,six of his kids--she will probably

> > be pregnant

> > again.

> > > I

> > > > think she knows something is wrong,very wrong,

> > maybe in the

> > > last 2

> > > > 1/2 - 3 yrs. She always cryed alot---now I

> > think I know why. He

> > > was

> > > > always around when her sponsee's were there, and

> > he also

> > > did all the

> > > > fifth's. She never goes anywhere...and so much

> > more. I cry for

> > > > her. I don't know how to help her-or-if she

> > wants help. We

> > > have not

> > > > spoken for over 5 months. Until I have a plan,

> > I do nothing.

> > > netty

> > >

> > > Hello again,

> > >

> > > Don't worry about asking questions, that is what

> > we all need to

> > > do in order to learn. I'm no expert on the

> > Quakers, just a few

> > > basic things. They were started by Fox, in

> > colonial

> > > america, along with the Shakers, Amish, Puritians,

> > Unitarians,

> > > and a whole lot more. Quaker is a nickname the

> > proper name is

> > > " Society of Friends. " They are not a very large

> > group, but still

> > > exist. If you live in a city in the U.S., you

> > would be likely to

> > find

> > > " Society of Friends " listed in your phone book

> > under churches.

> > > The tend to be very liberal, pascivists, firm

> > belief in acceptance

> > > and understanding. The genearally oppose war, and

> > they were

> > > one of the groups that was instrumental in the

> > abolition of

> > > slavery in the early U.S. history. Well, that's

> > about the extent of

> > my

> > > knowledge of the Quakers. OH, the guy on the

> > " Quaker Oats " box

> > > is dressed in attire that was typical of the early

> > Quakers. Today

> > > they do not have attire that is exclusive to the

> > group.

> > >

> > Devin

> >

> > Thanks--your great! uhmmmm --

> > how did you do

> > that with the words? Wrapwords?

> > netty

> >

>

> __________________________________________________

>

August 15, 2001

All people differ in what their taste buds liek after surgery. I buy

fat free dressings or " light " types. One of my favorite dressings as a

reduced fat zinfandel dressing from cains. But since it is only sold in

bulk to restaraunts and the like I get it from a local palce. Boy is it

good. I also love white and red wine vinagrettes, italian, raspberry

vinagrette, ranch. french, catalina and a good parm. ceasar. Most

dressing makers now have fat free or light dressings.

Lea

moderator

August 15, 2001

All people differ in what their taste buds liek after surgery. I buy

fat free dressings or " light " types. One of my favorite dressings as a

reduced fat zinfandel dressing from cains. But since it is only sold in

bulk to restaraunts and the like I get it from a local palce. Boy is it

good. I also love white and red wine vinagrettes, italian, raspberry

vinagrette, ranch. french, catalina and a good parm. ceasar. Most

dressing makers now have fat free or light dressings.

Lea

moderator

August 15, 2001

All people differ in what their taste buds liek after surgery. I buy

fat free dressings or " light " types. One of my favorite dressings as a

reduced fat zinfandel dressing from cains. But since it is only sold in

bulk to restaraunts and the like I get it from a local palce. Boy is it

good. I also love white and red wine vinagrettes, italian, raspberry

vinagrette, ranch. french, catalina and a good parm. ceasar. Most

dressing makers now have fat free or light dressings.

Lea

moderator

August 15, 2001

I eat the " Just 2 good " salad dressings...I personally like the Ranch, but

it's a taste you have to sorta adjust to. You can basically use any of them

I'm told, within reason.

Dawn

(unknown)

Does anyone have any suggestions about salad dressings for when my

diet is advanced to that point?

August 15, 2001

I eat the " Just 2 good " salad dressings...I personally like the Ranch, but

it's a taste you have to sorta adjust to. You can basically use any of them

I'm told, within reason.

Dawn

(unknown)

Does anyone have any suggestions about salad dressings for when my

diet is advanced to that point?

August 15, 2001

I eat the " Just 2 good " salad dressings...I personally like the Ranch, but

it's a taste you have to sorta adjust to. You can basically use any of them

I'm told, within reason.

Dawn

(unknown)

Does anyone have any suggestions about salad dressings for when my

diet is advanced to that point?

August 16, 2001

Hi there! You can use lemon juice, balsamic vinegar, lite soy sauce,

worstershire sauce(tiny bit) olive oil..all in small amounts...or diet

dressings pre mixed. Just try tiny bits at first to see how you tolerate

them good luck Priscilla

> From: pt0916@...

> Reply-To: OSSG-NewEngland

> Date: Thu, 16 Aug 2001 01:50:06 -0000

> To: OSSG-NewEngland

> Subject: (unknown)

>

> Does anyone have any suggestions about salad dressings for when my

> diet is advanced to that point?

>

August 16, 2001

Hi there! You can use lemon juice, balsamic vinegar, lite soy sauce,

worstershire sauce(tiny bit) olive oil..all in small amounts...or diet

dressings pre mixed. Just try tiny bits at first to see how you tolerate

them good luck Priscilla

> From: pt0916@...

> Reply-To: OSSG-NewEngland

> Date: Thu, 16 Aug 2001 01:50:06 -0000

> To: OSSG-NewEngland

> Subject: (unknown)

>

> Does anyone have any suggestions about salad dressings for when my

> diet is advanced to that point?

>

August 16, 2001

Hi there! You can use lemon juice, balsamic vinegar, lite soy sauce,

worstershire sauce(tiny bit) olive oil..all in small amounts...or diet

dressings pre mixed. Just try tiny bits at first to see how you tolerate

them good luck Priscilla

> From: pt0916@...

> Reply-To: OSSG-NewEngland

> Date: Thu, 16 Aug 2001 01:50:06 -0000

> To: OSSG-NewEngland

> Subject: (unknown)

>

> Does anyone have any suggestions about salad dressings for when my

> diet is advanced to that point?

>

August 16, 2001

I HAVE SALADS WHEN I GO OUT FOR DINNER. I GET WHATEVER DRESSING I WANT.

THIS IS NOT A DIET. ITS IS REALLY PORTION CONTROL I FINE. RAYNA AND MANY

DECIPLINES

August 16, 2001

I HAVE SALADS WHEN I GO OUT FOR DINNER. I GET WHATEVER DRESSING I WANT.

THIS IS NOT A DIET. ITS IS REALLY PORTION CONTROL I FINE. RAYNA AND MANY

DECIPLINES

August 16, 2001

I HAVE SALADS WHEN I GO OUT FOR DINNER. I GET WHATEVER DRESSING I WANT.

THIS IS NOT A DIET. ITS IS REALLY PORTION CONTROL I FINE. RAYNA AND MANY

DECIPLINES

August 17, 2001

Shaw has a fat free, sugar free , and calorie free dressing ... And it tastes

GREAT !!!!

It is in the section where they sell the pre packaged salads ...

Ellen

-90lbs

September 7, 2001

,

Too funny! Now I'll know when seeing a person that looks like a potato

sack, exactly who the real you is!

Dawn

(unknown)

Hey everyone! I have a laugh for you tonight. I asked my husband of

only 2 years, what he would do when I get skinnny and have other guys

look at me. (In response to the psych eval question) Just as easy as

he breaths he said, " Not a problem, when you get skinny I'm putting a

potatoe sack over you when we go out! " HaHaHa I was very surprised

to have him tell me he will be very jealous but he trusts our

relationship and what we have. So, I think that we will do fine if

we keep the lines of communication open AND I don't do or say things

that would make him feel insecure.

Thanks for reading! Thanks for the support that all of you offer as

it helps so much!

Jespersen

Lap scheduled 10-2!!!!!

-------------------------------------------------------------

Military.com: your address for everything military http://www.military.com

Free email. Personnel Locator. Thousands of homepages for units, ships,

squadrons, and more.

September 7, 2001