Please help.

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> >Reply-To: breastfeedingegroups

> >To: <breastfeedingegroups>

> >Subject: Re: Please help.

> >Date: Sat, 13 May 2000 23:29:41 -0700

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> >oh brother. now my dil dont have enough milk for the baby and they are

> >going

> >to have to buy some breast milk if that is possible. also the baby throws

> >up

> >formula. my question is does formula have to be refridigated? or can it sit

> >out. ??

Why do you think she doesn't have enough milk? If she is concerned, there are

many things she can do to boost her supply, like pumping with a double electric

pump (she can rent one), putting the baby to the breast more frequently, etc.

Please let us know why you think she doesn't have enough milk and we can help

with ways to boost her supply. If she is putting the baby to the breast at

least 10-12 times a day it would be very unusual for her not to have enough

milk.

I am concerned about your question regarding formula. You need to read the

label and follow the directions exactly. It needs to be refrigerated and used

up within a certain number of days -- it should say all this on the label.

Also, it should have directions for mixing, diluting, or not diluting,depending

on what kind you have.

Please let us know more details and we can help find solutions. It would be

great for him to be able to have only breastmilk.

Margaret

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Shaa wrote:

> OH MY GOSH THAT MAY BE Y HE IS THROWING UP ITS OLD FORMULA AND THEY LET IT

> SIT OUT. I M SOOOO WORRIED ABOUT THIS LITTLE GUY.

Well he may be throwing it up because it is difficult to digest. How long

did they leave it out and how old is it?

If you or they are at all worried he may be sick from spoiled formula, you

should call the pediatrician.

--

Margaret

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Shaa wrote:

> OH MY GOSH THAT MAY BE Y HE IS THROWING UP ITS OLD FORMULA AND THEY LET IT

> SIT OUT. I M SOOOO WORRIED ABOUT THIS LITTLE GUY.

Well he may be throwing it up because it is difficult to digest. How long

did they leave it out and how old is it?

If you or they are at all worried he may be sick from spoiled formula, you

should call the pediatrician.

--

Margaret

[Guest guest]

Shaa wrote:

> OH MY GOSH THAT MAY BE Y HE IS THROWING UP ITS OLD FORMULA AND THEY LET IT

> SIT OUT. I M SOOOO WORRIED ABOUT THIS LITTLE GUY.

Well he may be throwing it up because it is difficult to digest. How long

did they leave it out and how old is it?

If you or they are at all worried he may be sick from spoiled formula, you

should call the pediatrician.

--

Margaret

[Guest guest]

they are not worried about the spoiled formula. he does not poop good. has

not pooped all day and its 10 39pm. she pumped herself and only got 1 oz.

out . i fed him 2 oz earlier tonight and he clearly wanted more but there

was no more for my grand baby. so he sucked on a pacificer.

she is taking him to a lactation person tomorrow. he is14 days old and her

milk just came in a day ago. she hardly eats and says she is not hungry. i

said force yourself. my son mentioned a wet nurse and the lc said oh u must

worry about aids then. or if they are on drugs , etc. i was thinking that i

could help them out. i could get a hormone shot from my dr. if she would

give me one and see if i could produce milk. if i could would it be odd to

do that for them? would ppl think i am nuts.? let me know. i dont take drugs

and i dont have aids and i dont drink or smoke. but i am old would my boobs

even produce milk?? how many shots would i have to take?

shaa`

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they are not worried about the spoiled formula. he does not poop good. has

not pooped all day and its 10 39pm. she pumped herself and only got 1 oz.

out . i fed him 2 oz earlier tonight and he clearly wanted more but there

was no more for my grand baby. so he sucked on a pacificer.

she is taking him to a lactation person tomorrow. he is14 days old and her

milk just came in a day ago. she hardly eats and says she is not hungry. i

said force yourself. my son mentioned a wet nurse and the lc said oh u must

worry about aids then. or if they are on drugs , etc. i was thinking that i

could help them out. i could get a hormone shot from my dr. if she would

give me one and see if i could produce milk. if i could would it be odd to

do that for them? would ppl think i am nuts.? let me know. i dont take drugs

and i dont have aids and i dont drink or smoke. but i am old would my boobs

even produce milk?? how many shots would i have to take?

shaa`

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they are not worried about the spoiled formula. he does not poop good. has

not pooped all day and its 10 39pm. she pumped herself and only got 1 oz.

out . i fed him 2 oz earlier tonight and he clearly wanted more but there

was no more for my grand baby. so he sucked on a pacificer.

she is taking him to a lactation person tomorrow. he is14 days old and her

milk just came in a day ago. she hardly eats and says she is not hungry. i

said force yourself. my son mentioned a wet nurse and the lc said oh u must

worry about aids then. or if they are on drugs , etc. i was thinking that i

could help them out. i could get a hormone shot from my dr. if she would

give me one and see if i could produce milk. if i could would it be odd to

do that for them? would ppl think i am nuts.? let me know. i dont take drugs

and i dont have aids and i dont drink or smoke. but i am old would my boobs

even produce milk?? how many shots would i have to take?

shaa`

[Guest guest]

i guess they have tried every formula there is and it does not agree with

him. before they came out here tonight my son fed him 2 oz of breast milk

and he threw that up too. sooooooo i dont know . she said its cuz he did not

burp him.

[Guest guest]

i guess they have tried every formula there is and it does not agree with

him. before they came out here tonight my son fed him 2 oz of breast milk

and he threw that up too. sooooooo i dont know . she said its cuz he did not

burp him.

[Guest guest]

i guess they have tried every formula there is and it does not agree with

him. before they came out here tonight my son fed him 2 oz of breast milk

and he threw that up too. sooooooo i dont know . she said its cuz he did not

burp him.

[Guest guest]

Shaa,

Get her to take the baby to bed and stay there until she sees the lactation

consulatant. She needs to nurse her own baby. Women who are near to

starvation can maintain adequate milk supply to nurse their babies. Quit

telling her she isn't eating enough and quit telling her she isn't making

enough milk. Support her by saying she is a woman and women produce milk

and she has plenty to feed her baby if she was getting the right

information. Throw away the bottles and pacifiers and feed the baby with a

spoon if you need to. http://www.lalecheleague.org has a catalog with a cup

feeding system. She needs to keep nursing and nursing to build up her

supply. You are sabotaging her breastfeeding by even mentioning wanting to

nurse her baby. You are giving her the message that she is incapable. Give

her lots of support and positive affirmations about her milk flowing well.

GET RID OF THE PACIFIERS AND BOTTLES! The baby should be using her as a

pacifier to bring her milk in. Go to a La Leche League Meeting. She should

only pump after feedings. She needs to be nursing her baby not worrying

about how much she pumped. The bottles and pacifiers and formula will ruin

everything. Get rid of them!

Wendi

http://www.lactivist.com

breastfeeding info & resources

Re: Please help.

they are not worried about the spoiled formula. he does not poop good. has

not pooped all day and its 10 39pm. she pumped herself and only got 1 oz.

out . i fed him 2 oz earlier tonight and he clearly wanted more but there

was no more for my grand baby. so he sucked on a pacificer.

she is taking him to a lactation person tomorrow. he is14 days old and her

milk just came in a day ago. she hardly eats and says she is not hungry. i

said force yourself. my son mentioned a wet nurse and the lc said oh u must

worry about aids then. or if they are on drugs , etc. i was thinking that i

could help them out. i could get a hormone shot from my dr. if she would

give me one and see if i could produce milk. if i could would it be odd to

do that for them? would ppl think i am nuts.? let me know. i dont take drugs

and i dont have aids and i dont drink or smoke. but i am old would my boobs

even produce milk?? how many shots would i have to take?

shaa`

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[Guest guest]

Shaa,

Get her to take the baby to bed and stay there until she sees the lactation

consulatant. She needs to nurse her own baby. Women who are near to

starvation can maintain adequate milk supply to nurse their babies. Quit

telling her she isn't eating enough and quit telling her she isn't making

enough milk. Support her by saying she is a woman and women produce milk

and she has plenty to feed her baby if she was getting the right

information. Throw away the bottles and pacifiers and feed the baby with a

spoon if you need to. http://www.lalecheleague.org has a catalog with a cup

feeding system. She needs to keep nursing and nursing to build up her

supply. You are sabotaging her breastfeeding by even mentioning wanting to

nurse her baby. You are giving her the message that she is incapable. Give

her lots of support and positive affirmations about her milk flowing well.

GET RID OF THE PACIFIERS AND BOTTLES! The baby should be using her as a

pacifier to bring her milk in. Go to a La Leche League Meeting. She should

only pump after feedings. She needs to be nursing her baby not worrying

about how much she pumped. The bottles and pacifiers and formula will ruin

everything. Get rid of them!

Wendi

http://www.lactivist.com

breastfeeding info & resources

Re: Please help.

they are not worried about the spoiled formula. he does not poop good. has

not pooped all day and its 10 39pm. she pumped herself and only got 1 oz.

out . i fed him 2 oz earlier tonight and he clearly wanted more but there

was no more for my grand baby. so he sucked on a pacificer.

she is taking him to a lactation person tomorrow. he is14 days old and her

milk just came in a day ago. she hardly eats and says she is not hungry. i

said force yourself. my son mentioned a wet nurse and the lc said oh u must

worry about aids then. or if they are on drugs , etc. i was thinking that i

could help them out. i could get a hormone shot from my dr. if she would

give me one and see if i could produce milk. if i could would it be odd to

do that for them? would ppl think i am nuts.? let me know. i dont take drugs

and i dont have aids and i dont drink or smoke. but i am old would my boobs

even produce milk?? how many shots would i have to take?

shaa`

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Shaa,

She needs to just go to bed with the baby and turn down the lights and get

some rest and nurse as much as possible. She is probably very stressed out

and so is her baby. She needs to connect with her baby together skin to

skin in bed and nurse, nurse, nurse. Why isn't she nursing him instead of

giving him bottles? She needs to take him to bed or get in the bath with

him and really connect to him and let him have free access to her breast.

The bottles and pumping and everyone else feeding the baby will only make

this baby wean very quickly. Let her feed her baby and connect and get the

rhythm of nursing down.

Wendi

http://www.lactivist.com

breastfeeding info & resources

Re: Please help.

i guess they have tried every formula there is and it does not agree with

him. before they came out here tonight my son fed him 2 oz of breast milk

and he threw that up too. sooooooo i dont know . she said its cuz he did not

burp him.

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Shaa,

She needs to just go to bed with the baby and turn down the lights and get

some rest and nurse as much as possible. She is probably very stressed out

and so is her baby. She needs to connect with her baby together skin to

skin in bed and nurse, nurse, nurse. Why isn't she nursing him instead of

giving him bottles? She needs to take him to bed or get in the bath with

him and really connect to him and let him have free access to her breast.

The bottles and pumping and everyone else feeding the baby will only make

this baby wean very quickly. Let her feed her baby and connect and get the

rhythm of nursing down.

Wendi

http://www.lactivist.com

breastfeeding info & resources

Re: Please help.

i guess they have tried every formula there is and it does not agree with

him. before they came out here tonight my son fed him 2 oz of breast milk

and he threw that up too. sooooooo i dont know . she said its cuz he did not

burp him.

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[Guest guest]

Shaa,

She needs to just go to bed with the baby and turn down the lights and get

some rest and nurse as much as possible. She is probably very stressed out

and so is her baby. She needs to connect with her baby together skin to

skin in bed and nurse, nurse, nurse. Why isn't she nursing him instead of

giving him bottles? She needs to take him to bed or get in the bath with

him and really connect to him and let him have free access to her breast.

The bottles and pumping and everyone else feeding the baby will only make

this baby wean very quickly. Let her feed her baby and connect and get the

rhythm of nursing down.

Wendi

http://www.lactivist.com

breastfeeding info & resources

Re: Please help.

i guess they have tried every formula there is and it does not agree with

him. before they came out here tonight my son fed him 2 oz of breast milk

and he threw that up too. sooooooo i dont know . she said its cuz he did not

burp him.

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oh he does sleep with her. i dont know y she pumps. i know last night she

did because she was at my house and hubby was here and she did not want to

pull out her boob in front of him.

[Guest guest]

oh he does sleep with her. i dont know y she pumps. i know last night she

did because she was at my house and hubby was here and she did not want to

pull out her boob in front of him.

[Guest guest]

oh he does sleep with her. i dont know y she pumps. i know last night she

did because she was at my house and hubby was here and she did not want to

pull out her boob in front of him.

[Guest guest]

that is what she wants to do is just give him breast milk. well according

to everything i have read (pooping 2-5 times a day) he does not do that. i

dont know how many wet diapers he has. so if we go by what the LL puts out

then he is not getting enough milk. and she does think she is his pacifier.

she just said that last night.

sometimes it takes him 4 hrs to nurse. he tends to stay up all night and

sleep a good bit in the day. i could just about bet she does not nurse him

10-12 times a day. like i said when he was about a week old he slept from 1

pm to 8pm. she was on pretty strong medication. (she had her tubes tied and

is still in pain).

[Guest guest]

that is what she wants to do is just give him breast milk. well according

to everything i have read (pooping 2-5 times a day) he does not do that. i

dont know how many wet diapers he has. so if we go by what the LL puts out

then he is not getting enough milk. and she does think she is his pacifier.

she just said that last night.

sometimes it takes him 4 hrs to nurse. he tends to stay up all night and

sleep a good bit in the day. i could just about bet she does not nurse him

10-12 times a day. like i said when he was about a week old he slept from 1

pm to 8pm. she was on pretty strong medication. (she had her tubes tied and

is still in pain).

[Guest guest]

that is what she wants to do is just give him breast milk. well according

to everything i have read (pooping 2-5 times a day) he does not do that. i

dont know how many wet diapers he has. so if we go by what the LL puts out

then he is not getting enough milk. and she does think she is his pacifier.

she just said that last night.

sometimes it takes him 4 hrs to nurse. he tends to stay up all night and

sleep a good bit in the day. i could just about bet she does not nurse him

10-12 times a day. like i said when he was about a week old he slept from 1

pm to 8pm. she was on pretty strong medication. (she had her tubes tied and

is still in pain).

[Guest guest]

Shaa, your DIl will produce milk a lot easier then you can, she just had a

baby. she needs to put her baby at her breast all the time, until her milk

supply is well established. she needs to pump after she nurses him. she

may not get anything out, but that is ok, she is stimulating her breast to

make more milk, the more the baby nurses and the more she pumps(after her

baby nurses) the more milk she will produce. after about 3-4 days of

constantly puting the baby at her breast, and pumping after words, she will

get more and more milk out. the biggest thing is having the baby stimulate

her breast.

it would not be a good idea for you to nurse her baby, she is the mother,

and she needs to nurse her own baby, and it will be a lot easier for her to

nurse her own baby then for you to.

Beckie and Mikayla 2/17/00

>

>Reply-To: breastfeedingegroups

>To: <breastfeedingegroups>

>Subject: Re: Please help.

>Date: Sun, 14 May 2000 22:44:26 -0700

>

>they are not worried about the spoiled formula. he does not poop good. has

>not pooped all day and its 10 39pm. she pumped herself and only got 1 oz.

>out . i fed him 2 oz earlier tonight and he clearly wanted more but there

>was no more for my grand baby. so he sucked on a pacificer.

>she is taking him to a lactation person tomorrow. he is14 days old and her

>milk just came in a day ago. she hardly eats and says she is not hungry. i

>said force yourself. my son mentioned a wet nurse and the lc said oh u must

>worry about aids then. or if they are on drugs , etc. i was thinking that i

>could help them out. i could get a hormone shot from my dr. if she would

>give me one and see if i could produce milk. if i could would it be odd to

>do that for them? would ppl think i am nuts.? let me know. i dont take

>drugs

>and i dont have aids and i dont drink or smoke. but i am old would my boobs

>even produce milk?? how many shots would i have to take?

>shaa`

>

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[Guest guest]

In a message dated 5/15/00 12:46:26 AM Central Daylight Time,

shaa@... writes:

<< fed him 2 oz earlier tonight and he clearly wanted more >>

Shaa,

My question is: Why are all these people besides your DIL feeding this

little one? SHE NEEDS TO BE NURSING HIM AT THE BREAST. Pumping and feeding

it to him is ok occasionally (much later, once supply and his suck are

established) but at 14 days he needs to be nursing at her breast at each

feeding, every couple of hours all day long. Does she understand this? If

she wants to breastfeed him, which it sounds like she does, then she needs to

know that she has to commit to sitting down, relaxing, nursing that baby

frequently. She needs to be eating healthy and drinking lots and lots of

water which will help her milk production.

I'm glad she'll be in contact with an LC because it sure sounds like she

needs some guidance and help. I'm holding my breath hoping they make it

through these troubled times. Is she open to your suggestions that you're

taking back to her from this list? I sure hope so, I know we all want to see

her succeed and hooray to you for your persistence in helping her!

Fawn

[Guest guest]

In a message dated 5/15/00 12:46:26 AM Central Daylight Time,

shaa@... writes:

<< fed him 2 oz earlier tonight and he clearly wanted more >>

Shaa,

My question is: Why are all these people besides your DIL feeding this

little one? SHE NEEDS TO BE NURSING HIM AT THE BREAST. Pumping and feeding

it to him is ok occasionally (much later, once supply and his suck are

established) but at 14 days he needs to be nursing at her breast at each

feeding, every couple of hours all day long. Does she understand this? If

she wants to breastfeed him, which it sounds like she does, then she needs to

know that she has to commit to sitting down, relaxing, nursing that baby

frequently. She needs to be eating healthy and drinking lots and lots of

water which will help her milk production.

I'm glad she'll be in contact with an LC because it sure sounds like she

needs some guidance and help. I'm holding my breath hoping they make it

through these troubled times. Is she open to your suggestions that you're

taking back to her from this list? I sure hope so, I know we all want to see

her succeed and hooray to you for your persistence in helping her!

Fawn

[Guest guest]

In a message dated 5/15/00 12:46:26 AM Central Daylight Time,

shaa@... writes:

<< fed him 2 oz earlier tonight and he clearly wanted more >>

Shaa,

My question is: Why are all these people besides your DIL feeding this

little one? SHE NEEDS TO BE NURSING HIM AT THE BREAST. Pumping and feeding

it to him is ok occasionally (much later, once supply and his suck are

established) but at 14 days he needs to be nursing at her breast at each

feeding, every couple of hours all day long. Does she understand this? If

she wants to breastfeed him, which it sounds like she does, then she needs to

know that she has to commit to sitting down, relaxing, nursing that baby

frequently. She needs to be eating healthy and drinking lots and lots of

water which will help her milk production.

I'm glad she'll be in contact with an LC because it sure sounds like she

needs some guidance and help. I'm holding my breath hoping they make it

through these troubled times. Is she open to your suggestions that you're

taking back to her from this list? I sure hope so, I know we all want to see

her succeed and hooray to you for your persistence in helping her!

Fawn