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I think that it might be more than PPD. I had some 'baby blues' but I

never got to the point where not touching my baby was an option. You

have indicated that you think that she has other medical and emotional

issues. Has she seen anyone besides the ped or the LC to discuss any

of this?

Weight gain seems fine but we cannot 'see' the whole picture. A

jaundiced baby needs to be fed. Period. If she is not committed to

breastfeeding, and it doesn't sound like she is, then formula may be

the only answer. I am a die-hard breastfeeding advocate but when

things are amiss like this, something needs to give. The baby needs

FED. If he is throwing up regular formula, the pre-digested stuff may

work better but it is $20 per CAN. She needs to get to WIC and apply

for assistance. WIC can sometimes help with a pump too. I believe that

they count everyone in the house as a household including your son and

her other kids. Does she work? Other programs may be available for

them too.

The doctor does not sound very supportive of BF but then he is there

and knows what is going on. Whet was the baby's birth weight? And what

does he weigh now? Sometimes it takes 2-3 weeks to get back to birth

weight and a lot of factors go into that. How was the birth? Lots of

IV fluids? Medications? Interventions?

I know this seems like 20 questions but until now it sounded like a

matter of just having her nurse more often. Now I don't know that it

is. Please call LLL and see if someone can go to her home and visit.

Call the LC where she delivered and let them know about what is going

on. Your DIL needs help and she needs it NOW.

Jenn

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ok if she will. my son just told me she has not touched the baby all

day. wont hold him or talk to him. it seems like she has rejected him.

have u heard of this you guys????

my son wanted her to nurse this baby. i dont know how dedicated she

was. she said she will try. she feels she gave it a try and it was not

working out.

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I think that it might be more than PPD. I had some 'baby blues' but I

never got to the point where not touching my baby was an option. You

have indicated that you think that she has other medical and emotional

issues. Has she seen anyone besides the ped or the LC to discuss any

of this?

Weight gain seems fine but we cannot 'see' the whole picture. A

jaundiced baby needs to be fed. Period. If she is not committed to

breastfeeding, and it doesn't sound like she is, then formula may be

the only answer. I am a die-hard breastfeeding advocate but when

things are amiss like this, something needs to give. The baby needs

FED. If he is throwing up regular formula, the pre-digested stuff may

work better but it is $20 per CAN. She needs to get to WIC and apply

for assistance. WIC can sometimes help with a pump too. I believe that

they count everyone in the house as a household including your son and

her other kids. Does she work? Other programs may be available for

them too.

The doctor does not sound very supportive of BF but then he is there

and knows what is going on. Whet was the baby's birth weight? And what

does he weigh now? Sometimes it takes 2-3 weeks to get back to birth

weight and a lot of factors go into that. How was the birth? Lots of

IV fluids? Medications? Interventions?

I know this seems like 20 questions but until now it sounded like a

matter of just having her nurse more often. Now I don't know that it

is. Please call LLL and see if someone can go to her home and visit.

Call the LC where she delivered and let them know about what is going

on. Your DIL needs help and she needs it NOW.

Jenn

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From: Shaa [sMTP:shaa@...]

ok if she will. my son just told me she has not touched the baby all

day. wont hold him or talk to him. it seems like she has rejected him.

have u heard of this you guys????

my son wanted her to nurse this baby. i dont know how dedicated she

was. she said she will try. she feels she gave it a try and it was not

working out.

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In a message dated 5/16/00 7:58:07 PM Pacific Daylight Time,

shaa@... writes:

<< they are not married. so i dont know if she can get on wic. i think there

is a hold up somehow. needless to say i am sad and have been crying over

this. >>

You don't have to be married to get on WIC, in MY area WIC is VERY

probreasfeeding and they do have alot of helpful information, plus if your

DIL isn't eating very well (like you said she isnt)they can help her out with

the extra food (you said your son isn't working fill time right now) so if

there isn't alot of *tempting foods* in there house that could make her not

hungry, plus im sure with the extra stress of the new baby. That little baby

sure isn't having a good time with the formula so I would really quit it all

together, all it is doing is diminishing her supply and making her baby sick.

She needs to nurse,nurse,nurse,nurse her supply is there it just needs to be

built up and they only way that it will is if she nurses that baby all the

time, every time.

Rhonda

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In a message dated 5/16/00 7:58:07 PM Pacific Daylight Time,

shaa@... writes:

<< they are not married. so i dont know if she can get on wic. i think there

is a hold up somehow. needless to say i am sad and have been crying over

this. >>

You don't have to be married to get on WIC, in MY area WIC is VERY

probreasfeeding and they do have alot of helpful information, plus if your

DIL isn't eating very well (like you said she isnt)they can help her out with

the extra food (you said your son isn't working fill time right now) so if

there isn't alot of *tempting foods* in there house that could make her not

hungry, plus im sure with the extra stress of the new baby. That little baby

sure isn't having a good time with the formula so I would really quit it all

together, all it is doing is diminishing her supply and making her baby sick.

She needs to nurse,nurse,nurse,nurse her supply is there it just needs to be

built up and they only way that it will is if she nurses that baby all the

time, every time.

Rhonda

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In a message dated 5/16/00 7:58:07 PM Pacific Daylight Time,

shaa@... writes:

<< they are not married. so i dont know if she can get on wic. i think there

is a hold up somehow. needless to say i am sad and have been crying over

this. >>

You don't have to be married to get on WIC, in MY area WIC is VERY

probreasfeeding and they do have alot of helpful information, plus if your

DIL isn't eating very well (like you said she isnt)they can help her out with

the extra food (you said your son isn't working fill time right now) so if

there isn't alot of *tempting foods* in there house that could make her not

hungry, plus im sure with the extra stress of the new baby. That little baby

sure isn't having a good time with the formula so I would really quit it all

together, all it is doing is diminishing her supply and making her baby sick.

She needs to nurse,nurse,nurse,nurse her supply is there it just needs to be

built up and they only way that it will is if she nurses that baby all the

time, every time.

Rhonda

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In a message dated 5/16/00 11:36:04 PM Pacific Daylight Time,

shaa@... writes:

<< ok if she will. my son just told me she has not touched the baby all day.

wont hold him or talk to him. it seems like she has rejected him. have u

heard of this you guys????

>>

It sounds like she is having some MAJOR PPD (post partem depression) she

needs to get some help right away. How is she with her other children? now

and when they were born?

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In a message dated 5/16/00 11:36:04 PM Pacific Daylight Time,

shaa@... writes:

<< ok if she will. my son just told me she has not touched the baby all day.

wont hold him or talk to him. it seems like she has rejected him. have u

heard of this you guys????

>>

It sounds like she is having some MAJOR PPD (post partem depression) she

needs to get some help right away. How is she with her other children? now

and when they were born?

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In a message dated 5/16/00 11:36:04 PM Pacific Daylight Time,

shaa@... writes:

<< ok if she will. my son just told me she has not touched the baby all day.

wont hold him or talk to him. it seems like she has rejected him. have u

heard of this you guys????

>>

It sounds like she is having some MAJOR PPD (post partem depression) she

needs to get some help right away. How is she with her other children? now

and when they were born?

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i have not heard anything today about her or the baby. i dont know how she

is with her other kids. or how she was with them when they were born.

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i have not heard anything today about her or the baby. i dont know how she

is with her other kids. or how she was with them when they were born.

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maybe she dont qualify for wic. do u have to report all the incomes of

everyone that lives in the house? well her brother just got a job making 18

an hr, my son works, and her x husband works. so i think she would not

qualify for wic.

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maybe she dont qualify for wic. do u have to report all the incomes of

everyone that lives in the house? well her brother just got a job making 18

an hr, my son works, and her x husband works. so i think she would not

qualify for wic.

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maybe she dont qualify for wic. do u have to report all the incomes of

everyone that lives in the house? well her brother just got a job making 18

an hr, my son works, and her x husband works. so i think she would not

qualify for wic.

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> > freeze. so its worth missing a car pmt to buy this pump thing.i wish

> > insurance somehow covered it.

WIC covers it! Get ahold of the local WIC office... the one near me paid

for everything!

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> > freeze. so its worth missing a car pmt to buy this pump thing.i wish

> > insurance somehow covered it.

WIC covers it! Get ahold of the local WIC office... the one near me paid

for everything!

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> > freeze. so its worth missing a car pmt to buy this pump thing.i wish

> > insurance somehow covered it.

WIC covers it! Get ahold of the local WIC office... the one near me paid

for everything!

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its not a lb its ounces and he did not even reach his birth weight yet.

he weighed 6lb 1oz at birth and lost some to make him 5 10 i think and now

he is 5 11 i am not good in math so i thought it was a lb but its not its

just ounces and the dr. is very concerned. so am i and everyone else around.

he is not gaining well.

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its not a lb its ounces and he did not even reach his birth weight yet.

he weighed 6lb 1oz at birth and lost some to make him 5 10 i think and now

he is 5 11 i am not good in math so i thought it was a lb but its not its

just ounces and the dr. is very concerned. so am i and everyone else around.

he is not gaining well.

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its not a lb its ounces and he did not even reach his birth weight yet.

he weighed 6lb 1oz at birth and lost some to make him 5 10 i think and now

he is 5 11 i am not good in math so i thought it was a lb but its not its

just ounces and the dr. is very concerned. so am i and everyone else around.

he is not gaining well.

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actually her milk did not come in till a few days ago. before that it was

yellow. over last weekend it is now white.

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actually her milk did not come in till a few days ago. before that it was

yellow. over last weekend it is now white.

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actually her milk did not come in till a few days ago. before that it was

yellow. over last weekend it is now white.

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ok here is the scoop. ds took baby to the dr. this morning. he said he looks

better as far as color goes. he thinks he is doing ok with the formula, this

is the stuff that is 20. a can!

ds took her to her ob and he put her back on zoloft. she is not going to

breast feed. they hurt really bad she has ice on them.

i guess i should no longer be on this list since no one is breast feeding. i

will get off tonight incase there are replies to this.

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ok here is the scoop. ds took baby to the dr. this morning. he said he looks

better as far as color goes. he thinks he is doing ok with the formula, this

is the stuff that is 20. a can!

ds took her to her ob and he put her back on zoloft. she is not going to

breast feed. they hurt really bad she has ice on them.

i guess i should no longer be on this list since no one is breast feeding. i

will get off tonight incase there are replies to this.

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ok here is the scoop. ds took baby to the dr. this morning. he said he looks

better as far as color goes. he thinks he is doing ok with the formula, this

is the stuff that is 20. a can!

ds took her to her ob and he put her back on zoloft. she is not going to

breast feed. they hurt really bad she has ice on them.

i guess i should no longer be on this list since no one is breast feeding. i

will get off tonight incase there are replies to this.

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