Re: Photo tells a thousand words

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You r face looks very puffy, this can be from either or BOTH low thyroid

or high cortiosl. High cortisol can suck up SO much thyroid that I

suspect oyu need to lower your HC dosing what size are your pills?

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My HC tabs come in 4mgs.

> You r face looks very puffy, this can be from either or BOTH low

thyroid

> or high cortiosl. High cortisol can suck up SO much thyroid that I

> suspect oyu need to lower your HC dosing what size are your pills?

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8,8.8.2

I would go to 8 - 6 - 4 - 4

starting immediately and see how you do on that give it 3-4 days for your body

to adjust. What is your pulse and BP?

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Todays readings:

5.45pm

141/87 pulse 83

133/85 pulse 82 (after 5 min doing relax breathing)

Six days ago I put my HC up by 2mgs. Did not really see any

difference in BP or pulse

Thanks

Geraldine

> 8,8.8.2

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> I would go to 8 - 6 - 4 - 4

> starting immediately and see how you do on that give it 3-4 days

for your body to adjust. What is your pulse and BP?

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If you have trouble wiht the higher night time dose, leave it at 2 but

lower that daytime dose ASAP.

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Val do you take your T3 at the same time as HC?

When I start the T3 rather than the SRT3 I was thinking of taking them

about 4 hours apart like the HC.

If I am taking about 75mcgs of SRT3 then would this dosage seem ok to

you?

20 - 20 -20 -10

Will I go hyper as the SRT3 theoretically is released over 24 hours and

I will be taking it over about 16 hours?

Thanks

Geraldine

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I think you will be fine taking it like you plan to.

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Thanks so much Val. I will do as you advise.

Cheers

Geraldine

> I think you will be fine taking it like you plan to.

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Val

I had to go to the dentist today as I was having sharp pains in a

tooth. He had to give me 3 injections (I wouldn't let him give me any

with adrenaline in) to get me numb. Then he had alot of trouble as he

said the decay had gone under the gum around the root. He was having

alot of trouble and all of a sudden my heart started thumping really

hard. I breathed through it and it did it again. I told him I was

getting anxious and he just put a temporary filling in and lets see

what happens. I just really hope that it doesn't get infected or that

I will have to have it out. I just can't handle the stress!

I took 4mg of HC on the way out but what should I do now? I was

trying to cut down on the HC as you said due to the puffiness in my

photo and feeling so bad yesterday.

Today I have taken 8 -6 - 4 (its 4:30pm here now) Should I be stress

dosing. I am so over it all.

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> Thanks so much Val. I will do as you advise.

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> Cheers

> Geraldine

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> > I think you will be fine taking it like you plan to.

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Yes I would stress dose for any dental visit. You can lower dosages the

next day.

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I took the 4mgs about half an hour ago what should I take now? I dont

want to stay awake tonight as well.

Thanks so much Val I do feel anxious.

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> Yes I would stress dose for any dental visit. You can lower dosages

the

> next day.

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-Val

I just took my BP and its 170/93 pulse 90

Maybe I shouldn't take anymore HC?

Please advise

Thanks

Geraldine

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> I took the 4mgs about half an hour ago what should I take now? I

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> want to stay awake tonight as well.

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> Thanks so much Val I do feel anxious.

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> > Yes I would stress dose for any dental visit. You can lower

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I would just take an extra 4Mg

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With BP that high I think you are doing fine wihtout the extra HC

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Val et al

I know that you want to take a break over the weekends and fair

enough too. So I will write this and hope that you can respond when

you can.

I feel like I am in such a mess and I feel scared.

Ok, since we talked last I have reduced my HC for the last two days

from 26 to 22. Today I started the T3 (Tertroxin) rather than the

SRt3. I have had one dose of 20mcgs - I know feel a little shakey

inside. I cant really walk around the house much - so am in bed. I

took my BP and its 174/90 pulse 93 then did some relaxation

breathing and it was 154/93 pulse 101.

My temp first thing this morn was very low -96.91 and now three hours

later its 98.56.

I just don't know what is going on. I was having pretty good temps

until my period about two weeks ago. I then had some accupuncture and

ever since then the temps in the mornings are low (today was lowest)

and daytime on the high side.

Maybe I just have high cortisol? My Dr didn't do the saliva testing

(and I didn't know about it then) before puting me on Armour and then

when I felt so bad on Armour he put me on HC. I started feeling ok

then and then got pretty bad - stress also increased. Maybe I just

had a reaction to the Armour due to RT3 - but even that was not

tested as they lost my blood. I am working in the dark here and thank

God for your advice. I do however get anxiety which would indicate

what?

What should I do - should I lower the T3 and only take 20 -10-10-10

today? Would that stress my adrenals? PLease help.

Geraldine

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It isn;t that I like to take weekends off I WORK wekends and am so busy

I canl;t have time during the day on Saturday & Sunday to get ion here.

ANyway, Lower the T3 while lowering HC os not a good time to switch T3

meds as the regula T3 ids probably ALOT more potent than the SRT3. And

you can feel adreanl stress jst from lowering HC even if you ar too high

on it. Your BP and poulse bothindicate high cortiosl btu the temps

swining wildly is stressed adrenals so help that HC dose till your body

settles down again.

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--Val

Thanks so much for answering.

I can't stay on the SRT3 unless I get some made up in the next day or

so as I am out of it. Therefore should I get some and go back on the

dose I was on or continue with the T3 say 10 -10-10-10-10?

I will get the SRT3 if you think is best.

Thanks

Geraldine

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> It isn;t that I like to take weekends off I WORK wekends and am so

busy

> I canl;t have time during the day on Saturday & Sunday to get ion

here.

> ANyway, Lower the T3 while lowering HC os not a good time to switch

T3

> meds as the regula T3 ids probably ALOT more potent than the SRT3.

And

> you can feel adreanl stress jst from lowering HC even if you ar too

high

> on it. Your BP and poulse bothindicate high cortiosl btu the temps

> swining wildly is stressed adrenals so help that HC dose till your

body

> settles down again.

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Try the lower T3 dosing for 2-3 days and see if your body doesn;t settle

down. Then if oyu still are having the swinging temps, You may have ot

go back to the SRT3 till you get the cprtisl on a better level. I ma

betting the worst of the symptoms will subside in 1-2 days.

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-So what doses of T3 do you think I should have? They are in 20mcg tabs.

Maybe only have 4 lots of 10mcgs? Then wait two days and lower the HC

by another 2mgs?

Cheers Val - I really do appreciate you supporting me.

Geraldine

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> Try the lower T3 dosing for 2-3 days and see if your body doesn;t

settle

> down. Then if oyu still are having the swinging temps, You may have

ot

> go back to the SRT3 till you get the cprtisl on a better level. I ma

> betting the worst of the symptoms will subside in 1-2 days.

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You could even break then in half and take MORE doses to further

lessent he adrenal hit, butdo keep the dose low till your temps stop

swinging then I owuld lower the HC a bit more and let that settle before

raising the T3 again.

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[Guest guest]

-Ok this is sounding good to me. What about I do 5mcgs every four

hours for a few days? I am trying to see what total dose I need for

the day and then I will break it up. I just don't know the potential

effects of lowering the T3 I just know that you shouldn't lower the

HC too fast.

PS I am just as happy to get some more SRT3 if you think that would

be better and concerntrate on lowering the HC.

Thanks

Geralidne

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> You could even break then in half and take MORE doses to further

> lessent he adrenal hit, butdo keep the dose low till your temps

stop

> swinging then I owuld lower the HC a bit more and let that settle

before

> raising the T3 again.

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The problem is I htink your issues are twofold. First too high cortiol

and second VERY hypo. Both can cause the bl9oating and high blood

pressure. And I do nto think the SRT3 is helping you enough. My own

experience wiht it was that it was VERY weak. SO switching ot regular T3

you probably are going ot have to cut that dose close to HALF to be

equal to what you were taking and not overly stress the adrenals. My

usual dose of T3 is 150mcg and I took 250mcg of SRT3 adn felt WAY hypo

still. So that is all I have to compare it with. I htin in your place I

would try the broken up doses of T3 adn try to hold your new lower HC

dose until the temps stabilize. If they do nto look more stable in 2

days then lower T3 more until they do. JUst do nto lower HC any more

until your temps become more stable .

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[Guest guest]

-Thanks so much. I will get my temps stable and then lower the HC. I

think you are so right in me being very hypo with high cortisol.

Cheers

Geraldine-

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> The problem is I htink your issues are twofold. First too high

cortiol

> and second VERY hypo. Both can cause the bl9oating and high blood

> pressure. And I do nto think the SRT3 is helping you enough. My own

> experience wiht it was that it was VERY weak. SO switching ot

regular T3

> you probably are going ot have to cut that dose close to HALF to be

> equal to what you were taking and not overly stress the adrenals.

My

> usual dose of T3 is 150mcg and I took 250mcg of SRT3 adn felt WAY

hypo

> still. So that is all I have to compare it with. I htin in your

place I

> would try the broken up doses of T3 adn try to hold your new lower

HC

> dose until the temps stabilize. If they do nto look more stable in

2

> days then lower T3 more until they do. JUst do nto lower HC any

more

> until your temps become more stable .

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Val

I know its only one day but here are my temps and BP for today.

On waking at 8.30am Temp 98.01

11.30am 98.82

2.30pm 98.64

BP at 11.30am 172/93 pulse 92

after relax 5min 153/93 92

I have also had violent diarrhoea all morning.

I have only taken 5mcgs of T3 every 4 hours today. Will only take 4

lots.

I would love to reduce my HC another 2mgs in the morning but if you

think I should wait another day I will.

BTW - My DH said that last evening he noticed I had some 'life' back

in my eyes. I do feel somewhat better in the late evenings - I guess

the cortisol is lowest then.

Thanks

Geraldine

I htin in your

> place I

> > would try the broken up doses of T3 adn try to hold your new

lower

> HC

> > dose until the temps stabilize. If they do nto look more stable

in

> 2

> > days then lower T3 more until they do. JUst do nto lower HC any

> more

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Geraldine, wiht the diarrhea, please go slowly. Stay hydrated and watch

for any flu like symptoms. I would not lower again this fast, give it a

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